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Random madness copying from ext3 to FAT32, Re: "Access denied" for no reason...

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Cork Soaker

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Jun 12, 2008, 10:04:26 AM6/12/08
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Cork Soaker wrote:

> This problem has apparently been resolved.
> Perhaps it was adding the "users" option?
>
> //192.168.0.6/shared\040files /media/shared smbfs
>
guest,rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=none,users,auto,exec,nounix

> 0 0

I was wrong, it came back and it appears to be completely random.

I have tested this MANY times to prove it to myself.

I hope it's just a mistake in my fstab that can be easily corrected, but
is it?

I have a bunch of folder with files. As you will be able to see from my
folders and filenames, I thought it might be characters used in the
names of the files, but it isn't, it's completely random which is *much*
worse!

(I would prefer to put all of this into files but my newsgroup doesn't
allow me to "post binaries to a non-binary group"). I think this may be
difficult to follow, unfortunately.

First, the files and the permissions:


$ ls -lR
.:
total 40
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:24 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:24 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:25 Folderwithnospaces
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:26 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:25 Folder with real spaces
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:26 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:25 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxr-xr-x 2 corky corky 4096 2008-06-12 14:26
Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:25 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 corky corky 20 2008-06-12 14:26 File_with_underline_spaces


OK, this is what happens in bash.

:/tmp/tests$ cp * /media/shared/Temp -r
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces/File with real spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces/File_with_underline_spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces/Filewithnospaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces/File': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces2/File with real spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces2/File_with_underline_spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces2/Filewithnospaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folderwithnospaces2/File': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces/File with real spaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces/File_with_underline_spaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces/Filewithnospaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces/File': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces 2/File with real spaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces 2/File_with_underline_spaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces 2/Filewithnospaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file `/media/shared/Temp/Folder with real
spaces 2/File': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces/File with real spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces/File_with_underline_spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces/Filewithnospaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces/File': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces_2/File with real
spaces': Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces_2/File_with_underline_spaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces_2/Filewithnospaces':
Permission denied
cp: cannot create regular file
`/media/shared/Temp/Folder_with_underline_spaces_2/File': Permission denied

And

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:37 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:37 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:37 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:37 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:37 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 0

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 0

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 0

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 0


Summary: Files inside of folders are not copied, but the folders are
created.

This happens exactly the same every time using bash. Using nautilus,
however, is where it becomes random.

Simple copy and paste in nautilus, I can't do it wrong!

Result 1:

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:43 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 0

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:43 Filewithnospaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 0


Result 2:

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:44 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces:
total 0

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 File with real spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 Filewithnospaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:44 Filewithnospaces


Result 3:

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File with real spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces


Result 4:

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:46 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:47 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File with real spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:46 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 2048
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:47 File_with_underline_spaces
ken@ken:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:48 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 3072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces

./Folder with real spaces:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File with real spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 1024
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 0


And so on and so on. As you can hopefully see, the files that are
actually copied is completely random! The rest fail with "Access
denied" errors and I have to skip them.

I can, however, once the folders are created, copy files into them.

:/media/shared/Temp$ ls -lR
.:
total 10240
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folderwithnospaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folderwithnospaces2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folder with real spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folder with real spaces 2
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folder_with_underline_spaces
drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 0 2008-06-12 14:51 Folder_with_underline_spaces_2

./Folderwithnospaces:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folderwithnospaces2:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder with real spaces 2:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:48 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File_with_underline_spaces

./Folder_with_underline_spaces_2:
total 4096
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 Filewithnospaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File with real spaces
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2008-06-12 14:51 File_with_underline_spaces


What I can not now do, is replace the files in the folders with files of
the same name, nor can I edit and save the files. "Access denied" every
time.

I can delete these files with no issues.

Doing the exact same thing in nautilus or bash as root has no problems
whatsoever.

Copying from FAT32 to ext3 (via SMB), the reverse, has no issues.

Sheer madness. Can anyone help? :-s

Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 copying to a FAT32 NAS device over SMB.

Maxwell Lol

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Jun 12, 2008, 11:45:18 AM6/12/08
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Cork Soaker <Thund...@Hardy.invalid> writes:

> OK, this is what happens in bash.
>
> :/tmp/tests$ cp * /media/shared/Temp -r


you are trying to copy all of those files to the file "./-r" ???

Cork Soaker

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Jun 12, 2008, 12:19:33 PM6/12/08
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No, how did you come up with that? -r = recursive.

Bill Marcum

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Jun 12, 2008, 1:04:20 PM6/12/08
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["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]

Options usually come before filenames.

JEDIDIAH

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Jun 12, 2008, 1:07:16 PM6/12/08
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On 2008-06-12, Cork Soaker <Thund...@Hardy.invalid> wrote:

...that's what you told the system to do.

The destination goes last.

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Jun 12, 2008, 1:54:36 PM6/12/08
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In comp.os.linux.misc JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2008-06-12, Cork Soaker <Thund...@Hardy.invalid> wrote:
>> Maxwell Lol wrote:
>>> Cork Soaker <Thund...@Hardy.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> OK, this is what happens in bash.
>>>>
>>>> :/tmp/tests$ cp * /media/shared/Temp -r
>>>
>>>
>>> you are trying to copy all of those files to the file "./-r" ???
>>
>> No, how did you come up with that? -r = recursive.
>
> ...that's what you told the system to do.
>
> The destination goes last.
>

umm- it is s_supposed_ to go last but here in debian land
at lea

OP has a different issue

Stan
st it works just fine at the end.

Stan
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Cork Soaker

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Jun 12, 2008, 2:32:54 PM6/12/08
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Correct. It works fine under Ubuntu under normal circumstances.

Cork Soaker

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Jun 12, 2008, 2:31:30 PM6/12/08
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It doesn't matter, it works (as root).

Maxwell Lol

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Cork Soaker <Thund...@Hardy.invalid> writes:

> Correct. It works fine under Ubuntu under normal circumstances.

Apologies. I have never seen this before.....

Jim Cochrane

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Jun 12, 2008, 10:56:35 PM6/12/08
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But certiainly not always. (e.g., on fedora 9:

$ ls
bin commands local-contacts tips

$ ls tips -lartL
total 64
-rwxrwxr-x 1 jtc jtc 41 2006-05-22 17:35 netstat
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jtc jtc 425 2006-08-24 02:20 svn
drwxrwxr-x 3 jtc jtc 4096 2006-09-23 18:36 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jtc jtc 704 2006-11-14 10:54 process_info
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jtc jtc 416 2006-11-16 13:50 tools
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jtc jtc 741 2006-11-17 12:27 shell
drwxrwxr-x 2 jtc jtc 4096 2008-06-12 00:57 .
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jtc jtc 60 2008-06-12 01:02 nmap

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Cork Soaker

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Jun 15, 2008, 10:45:57 AM6/15/08
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Ok, this seems to have changed a little. I noticed the following while
moving more files...

Say I'm copying folders with files. When selecting cut or copy, the
list of files and folders are obviously stored in memory in a particular
order, lets say, for example.

Folder 1
-/ File 1
File 2
File 3
File 4
...

Folder 2
-/ File 1
File 2
File 3
File 4
...

and so on.

Note: The file numbers refer to the order in which the files are to be
copied (this is not always alphabetical, or any logical, order).

Now, during the copy process, in Nautilus, the Folders are created, and
"File 1" in each folder appears to be the only files that are receiving
the "Access denied" problem.

It would appear that nautilus is attempting to copy "File 1" into the
folder before it has finished creating the folder. The rest of the
files are then copied (as I have to select "skip" for the copy to
continue, given enough time for the folder to be created).

This does not explain the behaviour in bash, but at least it's a bit of
a pattern (this time).

So, I'll have another look around, cry a bit, spit my dummy out, and
file a bug report if there is no answer, because there doesn't seem to
be, and no one has replied to say that they have a similar set up with
no problems.

Of course, I need to repeat this on another installation to prove it is
a bug, and not my machine (which means a reinstall I suppose).

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