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Ingimar Robertsson

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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Hi there.

I need to get me a new video card for my machine and I'm checking
out if there are any recommendations about which card to get.

My monitor supports resolutions up to 1600x1280 and I'd like to
run that with as high color resolution as possible (at least 64K
colors).

So the needs are something like this:

- Be able to run 1600x1280 with at least 65536 colors (24 bit
(16M colors) preferred). I could live with 24bits in 1280x1024
but 1600x1280 should be in at least 16bit (65536 colors).
- Be able to run this resolution both in Linux (X) and Win95.
- Be able to run this resolution fast (i.e. useable without any
sluggishness.
- 3D acceleration that can boost Quake up wouldn't hurt. ;-)
- The card has to be PCI, not AGP.

If anybody out there has good experience of a card that does the
above things (and does them good) I'd be very glad to hear about
it.

If it matters then the monitor that this card will be using is
HP's 19" M900:

http://www.hp.com/vectra/products/monitors/D2843A.html

Please reply directly by e-mail since I'm not a frequent reader
of these groups. I'll then post a summary after I'm done. :-)


Thanx in advance.

Ingimar

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Mark Kelly

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Nov 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/4/98
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If your looking for a good card, get a Diamond Viper V330 or the STB
Velocity 128. They both use the nVidia Riva chipset and come in 8 meg
versions and would be more than adequate for what you want.


Chris Petit

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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Andre Couture wrote in message <3640A72B...@videotron.ca>...
>
>I have, myself, a Matrox Millenium 4MB and does all you need. 8MB would
>be better.
>
>If you are planning to have Dual Monitors (using MetroX) you probably
>want to stick with Matrox Millenium cards.
>So far there the only one supported in dual monitors configuration by
>MetroX.


Or, if he wants Quake acceleration, the STB Lightspeed 128 (PCI) with 8
MB of RAM, which uses the Riva128 chipset, should fit the bill.

I use the Diamond Viper V550 AGP w/ 16 MB RAM (Riva TNT chipset) (after
I found a driver for the chipset on http://dimension128.smartcom.net/ )

Works perfectly. :-)


dste...@gohome.com

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Nov 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/5/98
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> Works perfectly. :-)


Whoah... I've been thinking of getting the STB 4400 or whatever,
Riva 128 16 mb ram agp, it gets the best review of several Riva
cards in computer gaming world (not that there is much difference..
it mostly got points for the 95/nt config utilities).

You mean that it has a driver for linux that works and accelerates
open gl hardware or what have you? I'm sick of my voodoo 2 3dfx, I
can't get it to do the things I want to in linux, and in nt or 95
if the game I'm in locks, I cant get back out (it wont give up the
display) although I can tell the os is not locked up. I know
this is kind of frivilous, but I'd really like it if it could
accelerate the opengl screensavers in Xwindows Xscreensaver and
Xlock. I can play them with the voodoo2 but can't accel them with
it while in the screensaver (gets and error whether I suid or
whatever or not) Can the riva 128 with that driver do accelerated
open gl? My matrox 4 meg can very well in nt/95 on the microsoft
open gl screenavers.. but there is no hardware accelerated openg
l driver for it under X as far as I know. I guess I'll go check
that page and read if the Riva does instead of babbling here!

Dave
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Andre Couture

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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I also do have a RivaTNT card but could not find any driver, I'll look at the
link you mentionned.

Cards I have in my possession;
1 Matrox Millenium
1 Riva TNT
2 ATI Xpert98
1 Matrox 3D rendering (add-on)
2 ATI All-In-Wonder Pro (PCI/AGP)
few ATI VGA Wonder, Oak, Trident, ...

but so far on Linux only Matrox and ATI were supported...
Hope to find use for the Matrox 3D soon under Linux...

/Andre

Chris Petit wrote:

> Andre Couture wrote in message <3640A72B...@videotron.ca>...
> >
> >I have, myself, a Matrox Millenium 4MB and does all you need. 8MB would
> >be better.
> >
> >If you are planning to have Dual Monitors (using MetroX) you probably
> >want to stick with Matrox Millenium cards.
> >So far there the only one supported in dual monitors configuration by
> >MetroX.
>
> Or, if he wants Quake acceleration, the STB Lightspeed 128 (PCI) with 8
> MB of RAM, which uses the Riva128 chipset, should fit the bill.
>
> I use the Diamond Viper V550 AGP w/ 16 MB RAM (Riva TNT chipset) (after
> I found a driver for the chipset on http://dimension128.smartcom.net/ )
>
> Works perfectly. :-)

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lla...@my-dejanews.com

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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In article <36424803...@videotron.ca>,

acou...@videotron.ca wrote:
> I also do have a RivaTNT card but could not find any driver, I'll look at the
> link you mentionned.
>
> Cards I have in my possession;
> 1 Matrox Millenium
> 1 Riva TNT
> 2 ATI Xpert98
> 1 Matrox 3D rendering (add-on)
> 2 ATI All-In-Wonder Pro (PCI/AGP)
> few ATI VGA Wonder, Oak, Trident, ...
>
> but so far on Linux only Matrox and ATI were supported...
> Hope to find use for the Matrox 3D soon under Linux...
>
> /Andre

Checked out Dimension's site:[Diamond Viper V550 drivers page (RIVA TNT)]
http://dimension128.smartcom.net/drivers.html#SVGA X-servers

...

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Bowden Wise

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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I have an STB Velocity 128, what do I need to get that to
work with RedHat 5.1? How do I figure out which chipset, ramdac,
etc.

The other problem I have is that my pc has on-board video. Windows
lets me set up a hardware profile adn disable it, so it will ignore
the onboard video and find the STB card in another PCI port. How
do I get linux to do the same?

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Chris Petit

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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Bowden Wise wrote in message <364478B8...@acm.org>...

>I have an STB Velocity 128, what do I need to get that to
>work with RedHat 5.1? How do I figure out which chipset, ramdac,
>etc.


That is the Riva128 chipset. You don't need to specify RAMDAC, clock
chip or anything else. The X server should pick it up automatically.

>The other problem I have is that my pc has on-board video. Windows
>lets me set up a hardware profile adn disable it, so it will ignore
>the onboard video and find the STB card in another PCI port. How
>do I get linux to do the same?


Look for a jumper on the motherboard or look in the BIOS for a setting
to "Disable onboard video"

>Mark Kelly wrote:
>>
>> If your looking for a good card, get a Diamond Viper V330 or the STB
>> Velocity 128. They both use the nVidia Riva chipset and come in 8 meg
>> versions and would be more than adequate for what you want.
>


Good luck! :-)


Andrew Shaw

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Nov 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/8/98
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I have the 128 4mg pci and my friend has the 128 8mg agp and they both work
fine in X. It is easy to setup, the install should have ran the setup
program. If not run XConfiguator, or something like that. There is no
chipset. Basicaly just pick it from the list.
Andrew

Bowden Wise wrote:

> I have an STB Velocity 128, what do I need to get that to
> work with RedHat 5.1? How do I figure out which chipset, ramdac,
> etc.
>

> The other problem I have is that my pc has on-board video. Windows
> lets me set up a hardware profile adn disable it, so it will ignore
> the onboard video and find the STB card in another PCI port. How
> do I get linux to do the same?
>

> Mark Kelly wrote:
> >
> > If your looking for a good card, get a Diamond Viper V330 or the STB
> > Velocity 128. They both use the nVidia Riva chipset and come in 8 meg
> > versions and would be more than adequate for what you want.
>

Andrew

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Nov 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/12/98
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Andrew Shaw (As...@luc.edu) wrote:
: I have the 128 4mg pci and my friend has the 128 8mg agp and they both work

: fine in X. It is easy to setup, the install should have ran the setup
: program. If not run XConfiguator, or something like that. There is no

Xconfigurator ;-)

: chipset. Basicaly just pick it from the list.
: Andrew

: Bowden Wise wrote:

: > I have an STB Velocity 128, what do I need to get that to
: > work with RedHat 5.1? How do I figure out which chipset, ramdac,
: > etc.
: >
: > The other problem I have is that my pc has on-board video. Windows
: > lets me set up a hardware profile adn disable it, so it will ignore
: > the onboard video and find the STB card in another PCI port. How
: > do I get linux to do the same?
: >
: > Mark Kelly wrote:
: > >
: > > If your looking for a good card, get a Diamond Viper V330 or the STB
: > > Velocity 128. They both use the nVidia Riva chipset and come in 8 meg
: > > versions and would be more than adequate for what you want.
: >
: > --
: > --------------------------------------------------------------------
: > G. Bowden Wise
: > Computer Science Dept, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy, NY 12180
: > E-mailto:wi...@acm.org WWW: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~wiseb/


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tim...@sunking.com

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Dave, I figured this out a LONG time ago when running Carmageddon's beta 3dfx
drivers. Unplug your monitor from the Voodoo card, and into your primary
video card. You will be back in Windows, and can shut down the offending
program by choosing it in the menu you get by pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL. Your
Voodoo might still be locked, though it usually cleans itself if I try
running a Voodoo app again. Worst case, you can shut down normally.

By the way, did you know some developers like this configuration since they
can connect 2 monitors, and display Windows on one monitor and the Voodoo
output on another? When I had a Viper 330 with TV-Out, I played around with
using the TV-out for my Windows video, and my monitor for the Voodoo output,
but the TV-out sucked too much. I also tried it the other way around, since
my Voodoo had TV-out, and while better, it still sucked since I could'nt read
the text output.

Good luck! I will be suffering from the same problems once I get my other
computer assembled and ready for Linux install. I still have my Viper 330
lying around, so I'll probably use that initially.

In article <bG702.319$B54.12...@news.rdc1.ne.home.com>,
dste...@gohome.com wrote:
> <snip>


> You mean that it has a driver for linux that works and accelerates
> open gl hardware or what have you? I'm sick of my voodoo 2 3dfx, I
> can't get it to do the things I want to in linux, and in nt or 95
> if the game I'm in locks, I cant get back out (it wont give up the
> display) although I can tell the os is not locked up.

> <snip>


> Dave
> dste...@gohome.com
> (remove go to mail)
>
>

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