Petition for WINE

Tim Ritberg

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Jul 9, 2012, 11:09:31 AM7/9/12

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http://www.thepetitionsite.com/542/553/544/stop-reactos-project-reallocate-resources/

Volker Birk

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Jul 9, 2012, 11:26:02 AM7/9/12

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Tim Ritberg <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/542/553/544/stop-reactos-project-reallocate-resources/

Sorry, I will not support that. It's a mistake to concentrate. Free
Software lives because of the broad range of possibilities.

Yours,
VB, Linux user, no user of ReactOS so far.
--
“Isabell steht auf Cocktailschirmchen, Analverkehr und House
und hat 186 Freunde
ansonsten weiss ich nichts über sie”
(Jenna Gesse)

Lew Pitcher

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Jul 9, 2012, 12:09:52 PM7/9/12

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On Monday 09 July 2012 11:09, in comp.os.linux.development.system,
t...@server.invalid wrote:

[snipped link to petition to ask winehq to somehow cut off reactos]

You may not remember it, but way back in the late ninety's, there was a
project to implement Windows32bit APIs on OS/2. This was an open project (I
don't remember if it was "open source" or not) which had the goal of
providing OS/2 with a compatibility layer so that it could run Windows
95/98 apps (OS/2 only had the capability of running Windows 3.1 apps at the
time).

When the Wine project came along, there existed /two/ projects to support an
open implementation of the Windows API. Wine became the challenger to this
well-established OS/2 project.

Unlike your position, the OS/2 group /didn't/ take the position that the
upstart was "spoiling" something. The OS/2 group welcomed the Wine project,
and (after a few years of parallel development) actually gave Wine most of
their code.

I don't believe that ReactOS will "spoil" Wine. A healthy ecosystem includes
competitors; it's only the rotten, due-to-die-in-a-massive-crash ecosystems
that contain only one contributor.

Your petition is unwelcome here.

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

Tim Ritberg

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Jul 9, 2012, 12:49:48 PM7/9/12

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Am 09.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Lew Pitcher:
> On Monday 09 July 2012 11:09, in comp.os.linux.development.system,
> t...@server.invalid wrote:
>
> [snipped link to petition to ask winehq to somehow cut off reactos]
>

No no, I think this petition wants reactos developers should join Wine
project.

Tim Roberts

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Jul 10, 2012, 1:32:25 AM7/10/12

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Let me point out some of the flaws in this plan.

1. Yours is a religious argument, not a technical argument. Windows is
provably NOT a "horrible OS". Marketing alone is not sufficient to explain
95% market share.

2. These people are ALL volunteers. They can spend their time however they
damn well please. Your petition is absolutely pointless.

3. Petitions, as a rule, only have meaning to their creators, not to their
targets.
--
Tim Roberts, ti...@probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

Rainer Weikusat

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Jul 10, 2012, 9:21:13 AM7/10/12

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Tim Roberts <ti...@probo.com> writes:
> Tim Ritberg <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>Am 09.07.2012 18:09, schrieb Lew Pitcher:
>>> On Monday 09 July 2012 11:09, in comp.os.linux.development.system,
>>> t...@server.invalid wrote:
>>>
>>> [snipped link to petition to ask winehq to somehow cut off reactos]
>>
>>No no, I think this petition wants reactos developers should join Wine
>>project.
>
> Let me point out some of the flaws in this plan.
>
> 1. Yours is a religious argument, not a technical argument. Windows is
> provably NOT a "horrible OS".

What people precisely consider to be 'a horrible OS' is very much a
matter of opinion.

> Marketing alone is not sufficient to explain 95% market share.

And '95% market share' is no indication of any particular quality
(there earth wasn't flat by the time '95%' of all people were still
convinced that it was). Also, people don't buy Windows. They get it
bundled with hardware they buy.

Jorgen Grahn

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Jul 10, 2012, 5:07:07 PM7/10/12

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On Tue, 2012-07-10, Rainer Weikusat wrote:

> Tim Roberts <ti...@probo.com> writes:

>> Let me point out some of the flaws in this plan.
>>
>> 1. Yours is a religious argument, not a technical argument. Windows is
>> provably NOT a "horrible OS".
>
> What people precisely consider to be 'a horrible OS' is very much a
> matter of opinion.

I think that's what he said. Some people use the word "religion" as a
derogatory synonym for "opinion".

/Jorgen

--
// Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . .
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Henrik Faber

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Jul 23, 2012, 9:33:00 AM7/23/12

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On 09.07.2012 17:09, Tim Ritberg wrote:
> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/542/553/544/stop-reactos-project-reallocate-resources/

What stupid and utter insolence.

Trying to force solution X over solution Y onto programmers that choose
freely what they want to work and and to call their current goal
"useless" is the work of a complete asshole. It will achieve nothing and
approaching developers like that will not convice them to do anything
except giving you the middle finger. Which they should.

Regards,
Henrik

Rainer Weikusat

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Jul 23, 2012, 10:18:58 AM7/23/12

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Henrik Faber <hfa...@invalid.net> writes:
> On 09.07.2012 17:09, Tim Ritberg wrote:
>> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/542/553/544/stop-reactos-project-reallocate-resources/
>
> What stupid and utter insolence.
>
> Trying to force solution X over solution Y onto programmers that choose
> freely what they want to work and and to call their current goal
> "useless" is the work of a complete asshole.

In this case, I'd vote for rather youthful and naive idealism,
combined with an utter lack of knowledge of how things happen 'in open
source' and what kind of people do them ...