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Goblin

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Aug 6, 2009, 8:18:58 PM8/6/09
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"Last week, Datamation published an article on the rise in value of
Linux job skills in today�s economy. Linux system administration skills
are now the number 2 hottest IT job skill. In the last year, the value
of Linux skills has risen 50 percent, an astounding rise in a tough
economy."

http://tinyurl.com/mbjv7j

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DFS

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Aug 6, 2009, 9:33:42 PM8/6/09
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Goblin wrote:
> "Last week, Datamation published an article on the rise in value of
> Linux job skills in today�s economy. Linux system administration

> skills are now the number 2 hottest IT job skill. In the last year,
> the value of Linux skills has risen 50 percent, an astounding rise in
> a tough economy."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mbjv7j


That's the myth - that article provides no evidence whatsoever to support
that claim.

Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 6, 2009, 9:36:33 PM8/6/09
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Exactly!

Here is a comment from the original Datamation article:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3832316/Hot-IT-Skills-Certified-and-Non-Certified-IT-Skills-in-Dem

"By cww July 30 2009 12:44 AMPDT

I often wonder where these statistics come from. In my part of
the world, I can't buy a Linux job. I've been a Linux
"Consultant in waiting" for a decade. One would think this was
Redmond WA rather than central MN. I have begun to suspect this
is like the ever popular "Shortage of Qualified people" myth
that is perpetuated by so many companies where qualified
actually means willing to work 60 hrs a week for $14k/yr. I have
even heard that the reason some outfits can't switch to Linux is
because there isn't any Linux talent available. If you will
offer even $50k a year, I can supply all the Linux talent you
want. In this employer's
market the ads are written so narrowly that the reason they
can't find anyone, is that no one
individual could possibly possess all those qualifications and
experience. And if they did, it's
likely they would not be impressed with $16/hr and working
weekends."

7

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Aug 7, 2009, 2:51:18 PM8/7/09
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Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock DFS
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil Department of Marketing:


Go stuff your stupid myth claims elsewhere fraudster!
Google is your friend.

AZ Nomad

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Aug 7, 2009, 3:03:47 PM8/7/09
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:51:18 GMT, 7 <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock DFS
>wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil Department of Marketing:

>> Goblin wrote:
>>> "Last week, Datamation published an article on the rise in value of

>>> Linux job skills in today?s economy. Linux system administration


>>> skills are now the number 2 hottest IT job skill. In the last year,
>>> the value of Linux skills has risen 50 percent, an astounding rise in
>>> a tough economy."
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mbjv7j
>>
>>
>> That's the myth - that article provides no evidence whatsoever to support
>> that claim.


>Go stuff your stupid myth claims elsewhere fraudster!
>Google is your friend.

Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage. It's
worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!

chrisv

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Aug 7, 2009, 4:43:15 PM8/7/09
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AZ Nomad wrote:

>Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage. It's
>worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!

What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
DumFSck, get?

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little too late." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

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Goblin

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Aug 7, 2009, 6:43:04 PM8/7/09
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Gunnar Gren wrote:

> Den 2009-08-07 skrev chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage. It's
>>> worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!
>> What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
>> DumFSck, get?
>
>
> Nothing.

I'd guess thats correct since they have alot of time on their hands to
post in a COLA.

DFS

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Aug 7, 2009, 7:33:06 PM8/7/09
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You probably are so dumb as to believe Linux salaries are up 50% over last
year.

DFS

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Aug 7, 2009, 7:37:34 PM8/7/09
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Gunnar Gren wrote:
> Den 2009-08-07 skrev chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>
>>> Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage.
>>> It's worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!
>>
>> What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
>> DumFSck, get?
>
>
> Nothing.

I don't have any MS Certifications, but I "get" a boatload more than you,
chrisv, you low-income vicious turd.


Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 7, 2009, 7:41:53 PM8/7/09
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I get the impression that both HPT and chrisv are "double wide
dwellers".

Rick

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Aug 7, 2009, 10:35:52 PM8/7/09
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.. and what is so bad about living in a "double-wide"? Or, are you just
trying to smear with bigoted implications?

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DFS

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Aug 7, 2009, 10:45:57 PM8/7/09
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It means you're almost destitute. That's what's bad about it.

Doesn't mean you're a bad person - just financially unsuccessful.

I suspect you're a trailer dweller, (p)Rick. Not that you're man enough to
tell the truth.

Rick

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Aug 7, 2009, 10:59:23 PM8/7/09
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:45:57 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:37:34 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gunnar Gren wrote:
>>>>> Den 2009-08-07 skrev chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>:
>>>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage.
>>>>>>> It's worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
>>>>>> DumFSck, get?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any MS Certifications, but I "get" a boatload more than
>>>> you, chrisv, you low-income vicious turd.
>>>
>>> I get the impression that both HPT and chrisv are "double wide
>>> dwellers".
>>
>> .. and what is so bad about living in a "double-wide"? Or, are you just
>> trying to smear with bigoted implications?
>
>
> It means you're almost destitute. That's what's bad about it.

No, it doesn't.

>
> Doesn't mean you're a bad person - just financially unsuccessful.

How do you know the person is financially unsuccessful? And what is your
definitin of "successfully successful"?

>
> I suspect you're a trailer dweller, (p)Rick. Not that you're man enough
> to tell the truth.

I suspect you are a kindergarten kid...

I have owned, and lived in, a single-wide, after previously owing a
condo. I sold the lot it was originally on, and bought a bigger parcel. I
sold the single-wide, and the land it sat on, and made a down payment on
another condo.

--
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DFS

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Aug 7, 2009, 11:48:36 PM8/7/09
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Rick wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:45:57 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Rick wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:37:34 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gunnar Gren wrote:
>>>>>> Den 2009-08-07 skrev chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>:
>>>>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum
>>>>>>>> wage. It's worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
>>>>>>> DumFSck, get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any MS Certifications, but I "get" a boatload more
>>>>> than you, chrisv, you low-income vicious turd.
>>>>
>>>> I get the impression that both HPT and chrisv are "double wide
>>>> dwellers".
>>>
>>> .. and what is so bad about living in a "double-wide"? Or, are you
>>> just trying to smear with bigoted implications?
>>
>>
>> It means you're almost destitute. That's what's bad about it.
>
> No, it doesn't.

Then our definitions of destitute are different.

>> Doesn't mean you're a bad person - just financially unsuccessful.
>
> How do you know the person is financially unsuccessful?

I know they're financially unsuccessful because they live in a trailer in a
trailer park.

> And what is your definitin of "successfully successful"?

I don't have one ... but I guess 5x to 8x the single person poverty level
income in the US would be considered successful.

>> I suspect you're a trailer dweller, (p)Rick. Not that you're man
>> enough to tell the truth.
>
> I suspect you are a kindergarten kid...
>
> I have owned, and lived in, a single-wide, after previously owing a
> condo. I sold the lot it was originally on, and bought a bigger
> parcel. I sold the single-wide, and the land it sat on, and made a
> down payment on another condo.

So are you now living in a double-wide?

RonB

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Aug 8, 2009, 12:29:08 AM8/8/09
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Double wide? He moved out his mother's basement?

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Rick

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Aug 8, 2009, 8:32:47 AM8/8/09
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:48:36 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:45:57 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Rick wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:53 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:37:34 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunnar Gren wrote:
>>>>>>> Den 2009-08-07 skrev chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>:
>>>>>>>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Engineers are getting 50% over minimum wage.
>>>>>>>>> It's worth twice it's weight in toilet paper!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do Micro$oft Certified Fsckwits, like Quack, "Ezekiel", and
>>>>>>>> DumFSck, get?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any MS Certifications, but I "get" a boatload more
>>>>>> than you, chrisv, you low-income vicious turd.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the impression that both HPT and chrisv are "double wide
>>>>> dwellers".
>>>>
>>>> .. and what is so bad about living in a "double-wide"? Or, are you
>>>> just trying to smear with bigoted implications?
>>>
>>>
>>> It means you're almost destitute. That's what's bad about it.
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>
> Then our definitions of destitute are different.

<http://www.thefreedictionary.com/destitute>
Lacking resources or the means of subsistence; completely impoverished

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/destitute>
<lacking possessions and resources; especially : suffering extreme
poverty>

>>> Doesn't mean you're a bad person - just financially unsuccessful.
>>
>> How do you know the person is financially unsuccessful?
>
> I know they're financially unsuccessful because they live in a trailer
> in a trailer park.

There are a great many people that live in what many people call a
trailer park that an interesting, varied, and fullfilling lifestyle.

>
>
>
>> And what is your definitin of "successfully successful"?
>
> I don't have one ... but I guess 5x to 8x the single person poverty
> level income in the US would be considered successful.

Which is it, you don't have one, or 5x to 8x of the poverty level?

So, in your opinion, a single person would have to earn $54,150 to be
financially successful today? And a family of 4 would need 110,250 to
176,400?
<http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/09poverty.shtml>

>
>>> I suspect you're a trailer dweller, (p)Rick. Not that you're man
>>> enough to tell the truth.
>>
>> I suspect you are a kindergarten kid...
>>
>> I have owned, and lived in, a single-wide, after previously owing a
>> condo. I sold the lot it was originally on, and bought a bigger parcel.
>> I sold the single-wide, and the land it sat on, and made a down payment
>> on another condo.
>
> So are you now living in a double-wide?

I owned and lived in a single wide. I now own, and live in a condo.

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Homer

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Aug 12, 2009, 1:06:44 PM8/12/09
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Verily I say unto thee, that 7 spake thusly:

He didn't even need Google. If he'd bothered to actually follow the link
to the source article, it links to the original report:

[quote]
The following lists of "hot" IT skills – very much in demand by
employers - is based on Foote Partners' survey [*] of nearly 2,000 U.S.
and Canadian employers.
[/quote]

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3832316/Hot-IT-Skills-Certified-and-Non-Certified-IT-Skills-in-Dem

[*]
http://www.footepartners.com/FooteNewsRelease_July2009ITlabortrends_072609V2.pdf

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DFS

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Aug 13, 2009, 1:07:42 AM8/13/09
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Homer wrote:

> He didn't even need Google. If he'd bothered to actually follow the
> link to the source article, it links to the original report:
>
> [quote]

> The following lists of "hot" IT skills - very much in demand by


I followed the links before I ever responded. Nowhere in them - nowhere -
is there any proof the value of Linux skills has risen 50% in the past year.

It's just more lying bullshit by "advocates".


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