[News] Flash 9 for Linux Debuts
Roy Schestowitz
,----[ Quote ]
| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally) at a
| controlled demonstration during a conference. Meanwhile, a number of
| people have suggested ways that Ubuntu Christian Edition will work for
| its users.
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http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060913LinuxTheFlashAndTheFish.html
http://tinyurl.com/kcrpj
BearItAll
What the friggin 'ell are these people thinking of? Ubuntu Christian
eddition?
Is there some perculiarity with these particular christians which makes them
incapable of using a non-christian version? What of muslims and Jews,
perhaps they have to fill out a declaration of faith before they gain
access to the download button.
Then the artical suggests that the release of Christian Ubuntu is itself a
piss take of christians.
Screw Ubuntu, I'm not supporting them when they do stupid things such as
these.
If they want to release software packs for Christians that is fine, but that
is Not the OS, it is just a software pack.
Roy Schestowitz
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Linux: The Flash And The Fish
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally) at a
>> | controlled demonstration during a conference. Meanwhile, a number of
>> | people have suggested ways that Ubuntu Christian Edition will work for
>> | its users.
>> `----
>>
>>
>
http://www.webpronews.com/expertarticles/expertarticles/wpn-62-20060913LinuxTheFlashAndTheFish.html
>> http://tinyurl.com/kcrpj
>
> What the friggin 'ell are these people thinking of? Ubuntu Christian
> eddition?
I have been thinking about it. Personalised distributions can be thought of
as though they are company images, which save the hassle of installing and
customising a desktop. I see no harm in that. It's Ubuntu underneath. Having
software 'flavours' makes society more diverse and promotes individualism.
Microsoft's uniformity (e.g. XP with La-la Land wallpaper) reminds me of
communism. Just remember to wear some XP lipstick and wear some bland olive
shirt... and dare not change the behaviour of that desktop. The only pitfall
is support and documentation.
> Is there some perculiarity with these particular christians which makes
> them incapable of using a non-christian version? What of muslims and Jews,
> perhaps they have to fill out a declaration of faith before they gain
> access to the download button.
One could argue that locales have demonstrated the need for diversity. You
could either force the entire world to use a English-'speaking' O/S (it was
Bolivia's Linux lust that got Microsoft's response recently) or cater for
the culture.
> Then the artical suggests that the release of Christian Ubuntu is itself a
> piss take of christians.
>
> Screw Ubuntu, I'm not supporting them when they do stupid things such as
> these.
I am an atheist myself, but I see no harm in a distribution that packs what a
more religious user desires. Will it promote zeal? I think not. I think that
Ubuntu shows some tolerance, but at the same time you could argue that
Ubuntu harbours and reaches out for the intolerant. It's a subtlety and a
borderline case.
> If they want to release software packs for Christians that is fine, but
> that is Not the OS, it is just a software pack.
Good point. Thankfully they call it an Edition, as opposed to, let us say,
Christian Linux. Earlier this morning I came across yet another Linux distro
that is targetted at Christians only. That's just how it was phrased.
Best wishes,
Roy
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JDS
>> If they want to release software packs for Christians that is fine, but
>> that is Not the OS, it is just a software pack.
>
>
> Good point. Thankfully they call it an Edition, as opposed to, let us say,
> Christian Linux. Earlier this morning I came across yet another Linux
> distro that is targetted at Christians only. That's just how it was
> phrased.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roy
I'm sorry, Roy, but none of his points were "good points"
If I want to create a distro called "Death to the Infidel Linux" I should
be allowed. And I should be allowed to base it on Ubuntu. But DTTI Linux
wouldn't infringe or interfere with or cause harm to Ubuntu Linux in any
way. I don't see Christian Linux as being any different than Xubuntu or
Kubuntu, frankly.
In fact, I see Christian Ubuntu as a Great Idea(TM), that follows
naturally and perfectly from the F/OSS and Ubuntu in particular
philosophy(ies) of software development and use. And I am a Jewish
Atheist, so there.
--
JDS
flatfish+++
>
> I'm sorry, Roy, but none of his points were "good points"
>
> If I want to create a distro called "Death to the Infidel Linux" I should
> be allowed.
It already exists.
It's called Microsoft Vista.
ed
flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> > I'm sorry, Roy, but none of his points were "good points"
> >
> > If I want to create a distro called "Death to the Infidel Linux" I
> > should be allowed.
>
> It already exists.
> It's called Microsoft Vista.
That's utter crap, that's just going to get us a larger user base.
--
Regards, Ed :: http://s5h.net/qf
proud python person
Vin Diesel can do push ups with both arms tied behind his back.
flatfish+++
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:28:23 -0400
> flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>
>> > I'm sorry, Roy, but none of his points were "good points"
>> >
>> > If I want to create a distro called "Death to the Infidel Linux" I
>> > should be allowed.
>>
>> It already exists.
>> It's called Microsoft Vista.
>
> That's utter crap, that's just going to get us a larger user base.
Well, when you (Linux) haven't even hit single digit desktop market share
in 15 years, there is only one way to go and that's up......
I mean, how much lower can Linux get?
ed
I dispute your reasoning. Percentage of lusers (that means you) does
not effect the quality of software.
Why aren't you reading news with Outlook by the way?
--
Regards, Ed :: http://www.usenix.org.uk
proud c++ person
It all began with the forging of the great rings. Three were given to
the elves, seven to the dwarves, and nine to the race of men. Then Mr
T. forged his golden chains, and everyone got jealous. Mr. T pitied
them, but not that much.
Kier
Remiond us again, WHY are you still using Linux? Or you stupid, are liar,
or a hypocrite?
--
Kier
Ray Ingles
>| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally)
Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
--
Sincerely,
Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317
"...very few foods, even in Chicago, glow." - dubl-u
flatfish+++
> On 2006-09-13, Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally)
>
> Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
And how long have the Linux users done without flashplayer?
BTW it looks like V10.0 will be out shortly.
And the cycle will start all over again.
Linux is always an afterthought, if thought about at all.
BTW where is that Shockwave player for Linux?
Darth Chaos
I thought it was actually Ubuntu Bin Laden : Jihad Edition. :)
Kier
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:11:39 -0400, Ray Ingles wrote:
>
>> On 2006-09-13, Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally)
>>
>> Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
>
> And how long have the Linux users done without flashplayer?
We haven't done without it, merely done without the latest version, which
has only started appearing on sites just lately. I've only encountered it
a couple of times.
>
> BTW it looks like V10.0 will be out shortly.
> And the cycle will start all over again.
>
> Linux is always an afterthought, if thought about at all.
So why are you still using it?
>
>
> BTW where is that Shockwave player for Linux?
>
> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
Who cares? Your cricisms are useless whining, of value to no one.
--
Kier
arachnid
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:11:39 -0400, Ray Ingles wrote:
>
>> On 2006-09-13, Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally)
>>
>> Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
>
> And how long have the Linux users done without flashplayer?
Not long enough.
Ray Ingles
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:11:39 -0400, Ray Ingles wrote:
>> Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
>
> And how long have the Linux users done without flashplayer?
Not long. Flash has been available for Linux for quite a while, though
not the latest version. Of course, I haven't run into many sites that
require the latest version - not even nickjr.com or Disney's stuff.
And then, of course, there's GNASH. Developing rapidly, actually.
> BTW where is that Shockwave player for Linux?
I haven't needed it, even once, so I dunno. If I run into the need for
it, I'll let you know. You haven't complained about Shockwave before
that I can see. What'll you complain about when *that* one goes away?
--
Sincerely,
Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317
"[T]he Founding Fathers... made certain to guarantee us individual
rights and freedoms. How dare we selfishly lay claim to those
liberties... when our nation is in crisis?"
http://www.theonion.com/opinion/index.php?issue=4026
Scott Nudds
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
> Ubuntu Christian Edition will work for its users.
We are getting closer to knowing what God has on his Ipod.
Linonut
It won't be even as successful as XP was in putting a dent in Linux
usage.
--
MP3 is not a crime!
flatfish+++
You're kidding right?
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3627061
"For the desktop, market share in mature markets will be single digits in
five years"
Linonut
So what? Linux may have a single-digit "market share", but it has been
climbing (albeit slowly) for years. I don't see that XP made Linux
share dip.
In fact, in my experience, more people than ever are running Linux.
You have some contrary chart?
--
Free software is a matter of liberty not price. You should think of
"free" as in "free speech".
-- The Free Software Foundation http://www.fsf.org/
Roy Schestowitz
> On 2006-09-13, Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>| Flash Player 9 for Linux made its public debut (finally)
>
> Poor trolls. Less ammunition all the time...
Customizing Ubuntu Live CD 6.06.1
,----[ Quote ]
| So I set out to make my own custom live CD that was already equipped with
| Flash Player 9. The final CD was able to boot on both an IBM ThinkPad and
| an Intel-based MacBook and was a much better answer to the question, "What
| if we need to run the demo on a different machine instead?"
`----
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html
It's all coming together very quickly. There is even FOSSoftware to create
Flash content, as well as the always-evolving Gnash to play it with FOSS.
flatfish+++
> It's all coming together very quickly. There is even FOSSoftware to create
> Flash content, as well as the always-evolving Gnash to play it with FOSS.
Geekspeak.
Do you nutters realize how stupid the above sounds to average Joe?
It sounds like some kind of retard muttering and drooling.....
BTW where is the Shockwave player for Linux?
Scott Nudds
"Ray Ingles" <sorc...@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
> And then, of course, there's GNASH. Developing rapidly, actually.
Yet another - perpetually in beta - open source shit stick that seeks to
parasite itself on a
viable commertial product written by a competent company.
Linux = Shit Stick
Scott Nudds
"Linonut" <lin...@bone.com> wrote in message
> So what? Linux may have a single-digit "market share", but it has been
> climbing (albeit slowly) for years.
Nope. Linux market share was higher 5 years ago than it is today. 5 years
ago it was 2%, today it's less than 2% and some measurements show it to be
as low as .2%
Linux is dying. This is a very good thing.
Scott Nudds
"ed" <e...@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:20060914190...@localhost.localdomain...
> I dispute your reasoning. Percentage of lusers (that means you) does
> not effect the quality of software.
I agree. Lunix software sucks pig shit too.
I wouldn't give you a dime for any of it.
Scott Nudds
"flatfish+++" <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:UQgOg.39$%W2...@newsfe10.lga...
> Well, when you (Linux) haven't even hit single digit desktop market share
> in 15 years, there is only one way to go and that's up......
No, you don't understand... Next year will be better. Ya... Next year...
It's always next year with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - almost
out of beta - with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - almost working -
with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - one reinstall away from bliss
with these Linux Shit Lickers.
Slit their ignorant throats.. All of em.
"flatfish+++" <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:UQgOg.39$%W2...@newsfe10.lga...
> I mean, how much lower can Linux get?
Zero, but the tailoff will be exponentially slow. Some of the brain dead
will continue to use it, just as some old brain dead farts continue to use
typerwriters and quills.
The world will have to wait for these inferiors to die out.
Only in death will they be releaved of their ignorance.
Scott Nudds
> That's utter crap, that's just going to get us a larger user base.
Probably expand your user base from 1000 to 2000.
Ne0
>> I dispute your reasoning. Percentage of lusers (that means you) does
>> not effect the quality of software.
>
> I agree. Lunix software sucks pig shit too.
>
> I wouldn't give you a dime for any of it.
>
Microtroll! You don't need to give a dime, because Linux is free as in
free beer.
You'll regret the day, when Bill Gate$ put his claws upon your
computers last user priviledges.
My computer is the key to personal freedom. It is a mirror out to the
world. Microsnot Wingpong WANTS to take that personal freedom away from
you.
--
The red pill or the blue pill?
I take the LINUX PILL!
Scott Nudds
"Ne0" <as...@asdj.invalid> wrote
> Microtroll! You don't need to give a dime, because Linux is free as in
> free beer.
I have no love of Microsoft, and have advocated against the company since
the mid 80's when it was obvious that it was producing crap. But at that
time Unix was even worse crap. And it hasn't changed over the last 20
years. Unix is still absolute crap.
Meanwhile, Microsoft has assembled the best team of programmers in the
history of the world and they are managing to produce very good software
that unfortunately sits on top of the crap that it was producing up to the
mid 90's.
Unix retards however, continue to produce the same crap, that couldn't
even compete successfully agains DOS.
As a group of incompetents, your perpetual ignorance and your perpetual
stench offends me greatly.
Microsoft, year, after year, continues to make silk purses out of a sows
ear, while you fucking Linux retards continue to stur you batch of maggot
infested Linux Dung.
And that my little ignorant LinTard, is why Linux like every version of
Unix that came before it, is a continual failure.
"Ne0" <as...@asdj.invalid> wrote
> You'll regret the day, when Bill Gate$ put his claws upon your
> computers last user priviledges.
I have done for a long time. But if the choice is between his claws, and
your cock sucking ignorance, the decision will come down to his claws
because they are so neatly manecured.
You stench I can smell a mile away, and your shit stained fingers and lips
are just too much for me to witness without an immediate gag reflex.
As a group, I loath you for your incompetents. I loath you for your
perpetual failures. I loath you for your lack of vision. I loath you for
your sloth. I loath you for your hick backwardness. I loath you for your
anti intellecutal stench. I loath you for your randomness. And I loath you
for your unprofessionalism.
"Ne0" <as...@asdj.invalid> wrote
> My computer is the key to personal freedom. It is a mirror out to the
world.
Same here, and you cock sucking morons are too fucking stupid and too
fucking incompetent to build something competent that can take out
Microsoft.
Your own compilers can't even compile their own example programs, can't find
their own headers, can't manage to respond to button presses in less than 16
billion CPU cycles. You are incompetent. Your tools are incompetent. Your
working environment is incompetent, and your methods are incompetent.
Linux/Unix has never succeeded at anything more than killing itself, or it's
own brethren.
Sjouke Burry
> "flatfish+++" <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> news:UQgOg.39$%W2...@newsfe10.lga...
>
>>Well, when you (Linux) haven't even hit single digit desktop market share
>>in 15 years, there is only one way to go and that's up......
>
>
> No, you don't understand... Next year will be better. Ya... Next year...
>
> It's always next year with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - almost
> out of beta - with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - almost working -
> with these Linux Shit Lickers. It's always - one reinstall away from bliss
> with these Linux Shit Lickers.
>
> Slit their ignorant throats.. All of em.
It's always next version with these windows Shit Lickers. It's always - almost
out of beta - with these windows Shit Lickers. It's always - almost working -
with these windows Shit Lickers. It's always - one servicepack away from bliss
with these windows Shit Lickers.
Nice rethoric without any contents.
Scott Nudds
"Sjouke Burry" <burrynu...@ppllaanneett.nnlll> wrote
> Nice rethoric without any contents.
The telling fact is that if Unix/Linux were usable, they would be
competition against Microsoft and they would be used.
But Unix has never been usable, it's always been a piece of shit, and
Microsoft, even with something like DOS, was capable of walking all over the
Unix/Linux ShitStick..
Scott Nudds
"flatfish+++" <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote
> Do you nutters realize how stupid the above sounds to average Joe?
> It sounds like some kind of retard muttering and drooling.....
Exactly... Flatfish get's it. So does everyone else.
But for some reason LinTards suffer from some form of terminal brain damage.
If it was contageouis they would be rounded up and euthanized.
Why wait for proof?