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nessuno
May 6, 2012, 4:29:26 PM5/6/12
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<Quote>
Since its introduction in 2003, the network has consisted of
"supernodes" made up of regular users who had sufficient bandwidth,
processing power, and other system requirements to qualify. These
supernodes then transferred data with other supernodes in a peer-to-
peer fashion. At any given time, there were typically a little more
than 48,000 clients that operated this way.
Kortchinsky's analysis, which has not yet been confirmed by Microsoft,
shows that Skype is now being powered by a little more than 10,000
supernodes that are all hosted by the company. It's currently not
possible for regular users to be promoted to supernode status. What's
more, the boxes are running a version of Linux using grsecurity, a
collection of patches and configurations designed to make servers more
resistant to attacks. In addition to hardening them to hacks, the
Microsoft-hosted boxes are able to accommodate significantly more
users. Supernodes under the old system typically handled about 800 end
users, Kortchinsky said, whereas the newer ones host about 4,100 users
and have a theoretical limit of as many as 100,000 users.
</Quote>
http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
briefing.
The fact they are using Linux seems to be a deep company secret. It
was discovered by someone on the outside. In an official statement,
the company referred to "improving the end user's experience" and blah
blah blah, without ever mentioning the word Linux.
Since its introduction in 2003, the network has consisted of
"supernodes" made up of regular users who had sufficient bandwidth,
processing power, and other system requirements to qualify. These
supernodes then transferred data with other supernodes in a peer-to-
peer fashion. At any given time, there were typically a little more
than 48,000 clients that operated this way.
Kortchinsky's analysis, which has not yet been confirmed by Microsoft,
shows that Skype is now being powered by a little more than 10,000
supernodes that are all hosted by the company. It's currently not
possible for regular users to be promoted to supernode status. What's
more, the boxes are running a version of Linux using grsecurity, a
collection of patches and configurations designed to make servers more
resistant to attacks. In addition to hardening them to hacks, the
Microsoft-hosted boxes are able to accommodate significantly more
users. Supernodes under the old system typically handled about 800 end
users, Kortchinsky said, whereas the newer ones host about 4,100 users
and have a theoretical limit of as many as 100,000 users.
</Quote>
http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
briefing.
The fact they are using Linux seems to be a deep company secret. It
was discovered by someone on the outside. In an official statement,
the company referred to "improving the end user's experience" and blah
blah blah, without ever mentioning the word Linux.
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 8:08:02 PM5/6/12
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After swilling some grog, nessuno belched this bit o' wisdom:
Microsoft must be ashamed to have to use Linux. DFS should tell them
that Linux is "crapware", and Microsoft is stupid for using it.
Oh, the irony of it all.
--
Until we’re educating every kid in a fantastic way, until every inner city
is cleaned up, there is no shortage of things to do.
-- Bill Gates
that Linux is "crapware", and Microsoft is stupid for using it.
Oh, the irony of it all.
--
Until we’re educating every kid in a fantastic way, until every inner city
is cleaned up, there is no shortage of things to do.
-- Bill Gates
Tom Shelton
May 7, 2012, 12:33:19 AM5/7/12
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nessuno presented the following explanation :
Or maybe, it would cost to much time and money to port the software
those servers are running to windows? MS bought skype. They are
upgrading an existing system. Seems that it wouldn't be able to move
it over night - if they ever even try.
--
Tom Shelton
those servers are running to windows? MS bought skype. They are
upgrading an existing system. Seems that it wouldn't be able to move
it over night - if they ever even try.
--
Tom Shelton
Homer
May 7, 2012, 2:24:25 AM5/7/12
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Verily I say unto thee that nessuno spake thusly:
DooFy keeps alluding to.
> The fact they are using Linux seems to be a deep company secret. It
> was discovered by someone on the outside. In an official statement,
> the company referred to "improving the end user's experience" and blah
> blah blah, without ever mentioning the word Linux.
Yes, well, it's not surprising they don't want the world to know what
hypocrites they are, what with them powering Skype with "cancer", and
all.
I wonder if Vole makes grsecurity pay the Linux patent extortion fee?
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 89 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
>
> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>
> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
> briefing.
I guess that makes Microsoft one of those "near-destitute freetards"
> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>
> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
> briefing.
DooFy keeps alluding to.
> The fact they are using Linux seems to be a deep company secret. It
> was discovered by someone on the outside. In an official statement,
> the company referred to "improving the end user's experience" and blah
> blah blah, without ever mentioning the word Linux.
hypocrites they are, what with them powering Skype with "cancer", and
all.
I wonder if Vole makes grsecurity pay the Linux patent extortion fee?
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 89 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
Bob Hauck
May 7, 2012, 5:47:10 AM5/7/12
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supernodes are a new thing. They architecture was changed to move a function
in-house that used to be done by the clients themselves in a peer-to-peer
fashion.
--
Bob Hauck
Tom Shelton
May 7, 2012, 8:46:05 AM5/7/12
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Bob Hauck presented the following explanation :
Yes, you are correct. I misread that portion.
--
Tom Shelton
--
Tom Shelton
7
May 7, 2012, 9:49:13 AM5/7/12
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he bends down it reads WoW.
This the only kind WoW that micoshaft freetards, micoshaft
sales teams and micoshaft trolls will understand after years
of dedication to micoshaft service.
It would help if Balmer painted a penguin down his back
and wrote underneath it "Powered By Linux".
That way micoshaft freetards, micoshaft marketing and
munchkins all understand that this is a Linux WoW they
are being greeted with, and no other.
DFS
May 7, 2012, 10:33:48 AM5/7/12
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On 5/7/2012 9:49 AM, 7 wrote:
> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> This the only kind WoW that micoshaft freetards, micoshaft
> sales teams and micoshaft trolls will understand after years
> of dedication to micoshaft service.
hmmm... your LinkedIn profile mentions work with VB, .NET and Windows
> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> This the only kind WoW that micoshaft freetards, micoshaft
> sales teams and micoshaft trolls will understand after years
> of dedication to micoshaft service.
applications, but doesn't mention any experience with desktop Linux or
Gambas or OpenOffice at all.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/joe-michael/20/680/94
You're a fraud, fraud.
> It would help if Balmer painted a penguin down his back
> and wrote underneath it "Powered By Linux".
>
> That way micoshaft freetards, micoshaft marketing and
> munchkins all understand that this is a Linux WoW they
> are being greeted with, and no other.
while Linux has no limits at any RAM limit."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15f33d0134308d07?hl=en
Your family must be so proud of you...
Chris Ahlstrom
May 7, 2012, 10:39:07 AM5/7/12
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After swilling some grog, 7 belched this bit o' wisdom:
> nessuno wrote:
>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
--
Telnet Porter is doing a Liarnut and impressing the dimmer advocates with
his made up nonsense.
-- "Hadron"
> nessuno wrote:
>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>>
>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>> briefing.
>
>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>> briefing.
>
> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
> he bends down it reads WoW.
You mean "W*W", don't you?
> he bends down it reads WoW.
--
Telnet Porter is doing a Liarnut and impressing the dimmer advocates with
his made up nonsense.
-- "Hadron"
Peter Köhlmann
May 7, 2012, 10:45:34 AM5/7/12
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DFS wrote:
>
> "Micshaft products can only access 3Gb of RAM to compete with Linux
> while Linux has no limits at any RAM limit."
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15f33d0134308d07?hl=en
>
>
> Your family must be so proud of you...
Well, that claim was essentially true.
>
> "Micshaft products can only access 3Gb of RAM to compete with Linux
> while Linux has no limits at any RAM limit."
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15f33d0134308d07?hl=en
>
>
> Your family must be so proud of you...
While there were certain server products of 32bit windows which could access
more than 4 GByte of RAM via PAE, all the Home-versions were max 4GB, of
which only 3 GByte were available to applications.
Even *if* you would be using those server versions, they worked only with an
*extremely* severly limited set of hardware, because the drivers needed to
be PAE too. The linux drivers essentially all were PAE too, while windows
drivers with PAE were rare as unicorns
At the same time 32bit versions of linux (all x86 versions of them) had no
problems accessiong 64GByte of memory. And don't forget that 64bit versions
of linux exist for several years longer than windows versions.
Nope, DumbFullSnit, his claim *is* true, and you are simply making an stupid
ass out of yourself
DFS
May 7, 2012, 10:55:56 AM5/7/12
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On 5/7/2012 10:39 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, 7 belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> nessuno wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>>> briefing.
>>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> You mean "W*W", don't you?
As long as there's something for you to wipe...
> After swilling some grog, 7 belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> nessuno wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>>> briefing.
>>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> You mean "W*W", don't you?
DFS
May 7, 2012, 11:13:13 AM5/7/12
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On 5/7/2012 10:45 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>
>>
>> "Micshaft products can only access 3Gb of RAM to compete with Linux
>> while Linux has no limits at any RAM limit."
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15f33d0134308d07?hl=en
>>
>>
>> Your family must be so proud of you...
>
> Well, that claim was essentially true.
What does "essentially true" mean, dumbkopf? Is it like your unstated
> DFS wrote:
>
>
>>
>> "Micshaft products can only access 3Gb of RAM to compete with Linux
>> while Linux has no limits at any RAM limit."
>>
>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15f33d0134308d07?hl=en
>>
>>
>> Your family must be so proud of you...
>
> Well, that claim was essentially true.
profession "Essentially Windows Developer"?
You're as stupid as the fraud.
> While there were certain server products of 32bit windows which could access
> more than 4 GByte of RAM via PAE, all the Home-versions were max 4GB, of
> which only 3 GByte were available to applications.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows
> Even *if* you would be using those server versions, they worked only with an
> *extremely* severly limited set of hardware, because the drivers needed to
> be PAE too.
> The linux drivers essentially all were PAE too, while windows
> drivers with PAE were rare as unicorns
years ago.
Vista Business was released nearly 2 years before fraud's claim, and it
supported 128GB of RAM.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_vista
WinServer 2003 supported 2 TERABYTES of memory way before Oct 2008
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_server_2003_sp2
WinServer 2008 supported 2 TERABYTES of memory Feb 2008
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_server_2008
Fraud 7 is a lying piece of crap, and you are too, of course.
> At the same time 32bit versions of linux (all x86 versions of them) had no
> problems accessiong 64GByte of memory. And don't forget that 64bit versions
> of linux exist for several years longer than windows versions.
become "no RAM limits", dumbshit?
> Nope, DumbFullSnit, his claim *is* true, and you are simply making an stupid
> ass out of yourself
Hadron
May 7, 2012, 11:13:50 AM5/7/12
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Fiesta with Fluffy dice and I'm so good with the gears I can burn out
Cargo Lorries in 3rd..."
DFS
May 7, 2012, 11:17:52 AM5/7/12
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Did you see my recent post "Creepy Chris Ahlstrom as Tony Montana in
Scarface"?
It's funny!
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1c6dca013e911cc4?hl=en
Peter Köhlmann
May 7, 2012, 12:14:09 PM5/7/12
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Those are the 64bit versions of windows. They essentially support the same
amounts of memory linux does.
What part of " /was/ essentially true " was too difficult for you to
understand?
This always applied to the time when windows was usually used as 32bit
version, which was completely true until WinXP (because WinXP 64bit was a
smoldering heap of elephant dung, mixed with tons of bullshit)
> Fraud 7 is a lying piece of crap, and you are too, of course.
>
your total inability to read
>
>> At the same time 32bit versions of linux (all x86 versions of them) had
>> no problems accessiong 64GByte of memory. And don't forget that 64bit
>> versions of linux exist for several years longer than windows versions.
>
> The fraud said "Linux had no RAM limits". Since when did 64GB of RAM
> become "no RAM limits", dumbshit?
>
machines where you could put more memory into. The physical limit from the
OS was way higher
His statement *was* true. Windows 32bit supported only 3 GB of memory
(except for some severely limited (drivers) versions of win-server).
At the same time linux 32bit supported as much memory as you could
physically put into the machine and then still some more
>
>> Nope, DumbFullSnit, his claim *is* true, and you are simply making an
>> stupid ass out of yourself
>
> You were wrong in nearly every statement you made.
as stupid as Hadron Snit Larry.
7
May 7, 2012, 2:35:59 PM5/7/12
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it more than anyone else.
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:52:12 PM5/8/12
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On Mon, 07 May 2012 10:33:48 -0400, DFS wrote:
> On 5/7/2012 9:49 AM, 7 wrote:
>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>>
>> This the only kind WoW that micoshaft freetards, micoshaft
>> sales teams and micoshaft trolls will understand after years
>> of dedication to micoshaft service.
>
>
> hmmm... your LinkedIn profile mentions work with VB, .NET and Windows
> applications, but doesn't mention any experience with desktop Linux or
> Gambas or OpenOffice at all.
>
> http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/joe-michael/20/680/94
>
>
> You're a fraud, fraud.
Even retards need to earn food money.
> On 5/7/2012 9:49 AM, 7 wrote:
>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>>
>> This the only kind WoW that micoshaft freetards, micoshaft
>> sales teams and micoshaft trolls will understand after years
>> of dedication to micoshaft service.
>
>
> hmmm... your LinkedIn profile mentions work with VB, .NET and Windows
> applications, but doesn't mention any experience with desktop Linux or
> Gambas or OpenOffice at all.
>
> http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/joe-michael/20/680/94
>
>
> You're a fraud, fraud.
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:52:57 PM5/8/12
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 10:39:07 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, 7 belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> nessuno wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>>> briefing.
>>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> You mean "W*W", don't you?
Do you swallow too?
> After swilling some grog, 7 belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> nessuno wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com//business/news/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft.ars
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder why they didn't use Windows servers? Could it be that
>>> Linux was easier/more efficient/more secure? Maybe they should pass
>>> the info on to their troll department, give DFS and Flatfish a
>>> briefing.
>>
>> You know Balmer should paint a W on each botty so that when
>> he bends down it reads WoW.
>
> You mean "W*W", don't you?
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