Freetards "lower the experience" and "cheapen it".
Hadron
So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
'Downloading has cheapened music'
,----
| Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan regarding
| art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and disposable, and a
| lot of times ignorable.
`----
Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
and the colatards in as many days.
--
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/
"Nope, we know what an emulator does, and wine doesn't." - AH
** http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/dec7cb073d761af4
Peter Köhlmann
>
> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>
>
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>
> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>
> ,----
> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
> | regarding art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
> | disposable, and a lot of times ignorable.
> `----
>
> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
> and the colatards in as many days.
>
Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the
"true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert",
"X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
coordinator", "email sage", "tripwire wizard", "Pulseaudio rockstar" and
"OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka
Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve Townsend, aka Ubuntu King
--
"Last I checked, it wasn't the power cord for the Clue Generator that
was sticking up your ass." - John Novak, rasfwrj
JEDIDIAH
> Hadron wrote:
>
>>
>> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>>
>>
>>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>>
>> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>>
>> ,----
>> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
>> | regarding art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
>> | disposable, and a lot of times ignorable.
>> `----
>>
>> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
>> and the colatards in as many days.
>>
>
> Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the
...quite so.
"downloading" doesn't require that the work be gratis.
"downloading" also includes Amazon and iTunes and anyone that inclues
to digitize any bit of art they might have lying around.
Making buying something a bother doesn't make it any more valuable or "romantic".
There was never anything "romantic" about buying a hunk of plastic. He's trying
to manufacture a mystique where there never was any. He might have a point if
he were talking about gigs but he isn't.
He's trying to create artificial scarcity. Unless he's obscure that never really existed of course.
Radio has always provided freebies.
Recordings of any sort have always been a shallow imitation of a performance.
> "true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert",
...yes: the "true linux advocate" shows his "true colors" by conflating Linux use with music piracy.
> "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
> professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
> coordinator", "email sage", "tripwire wizard", "Pulseaudio rockstar" and
> "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka
> Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve Townsend, aka Ubuntu King
>
--
Unauthorized distribution of your work is going to happen. That |||
particular genie left the bottle a long time ago. You can either be / | \
cool about it and possibly gain from it or big the biggest jerk you
can be and alienate potential fans.
TomB
> "downloading" doesn't require that the work be gratis.
>
> "downloading" also includes Amazon and iTunes and anyone that
> inclues to digitize any bit of art they might have lying around.
>
> Making buying something a bother doesn't make it any more valuable
> or "romantic". There was never anything "romantic" about buying a
> hunk of plastic. He's trying to manufacture a mystique where there
> never was any. He might have a point if he were talking about gigs
> but he isn't.
>
> He's trying to create artificial scarcity. Unless he's obscure that
> never really existed of course.
I couldn't agree more.
And what this has to do with GNU/Linux and/or F/OSS is a mystery to
me... Please clarify, Hadron.
--
If The Flintstones has taught us anything, it's that pelicans
can be used to mix cement.
~ Homer J. Simpson
chrisv
>And what this has to do with GNU/Linux and/or F/OSS is a mystery to
>me...
Apparently "Hadron" wants to imply that advocates and users of FOSS
are more likely to be pirates, than are Windows users.
Of course, the opposite is the truth...
>Please clarify, Hadron.
Please soon die, "Hadron".
Hadron
> Hadron wrote:
>
>>
>> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>>
>>
>>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>>
>> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>>
>> ,----
>> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
>> | regarding art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
>> | disposable, and a lot of times ignorable.
>> `----
>>
>> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
>> and the colatards in as many days.
>>
>
> Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the
> "true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert",
> "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
> professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
> coordinator", "email sage", "tripwire wizard", "Pulseaudio rockstar" and
> "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka
> Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve Townsend, aka Ubuntu King
I hate to point this out Kohlkopf, but no where did I mention "Linux
users" specifically. I said Freetards. My title was this:
Freetards "lower the experience" and "cheapen it"
Hows your C lessons going? Figured out what "struct Foo * tun" means
yet? ROTFLM. "Crafted" any more C today?
More lies from you documented. You must still be smarting at getting
idiots lessons in C from Tim, Zeke and myself after Liarnut telling us
how good you were at it.
Now, admittedly a LOT of downloading is also done by people who actually
pay too. No doubt about it.
But the cheapskate freetards do the most damage.
Hadron
> On 2009-07-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>> "downloading" doesn't require that the work be gratis.
>>
>> "downloading" also includes Amazon and iTunes and anyone that
>> inclues to digitize any bit of art they might have lying around.
>>
>> Making buying something a bother doesn't make it any more valuable
>> or "romantic". There was never anything "romantic" about buying a
>> hunk of plastic. He's trying to manufacture a mystique where there
>> never was any. He might have a point if he were talking about gigs
>> but he isn't.
>>
>> He's trying to create artificial scarcity. Unless he's obscure that
>> never really existed of course.
>
> I couldn't agree more.
Then you didn't understand what jed said.
It's ludicrous to suggest a binary copy has the same "value" to you, in
general, as a proper product.
You don't get a rush when reading a professionally produced CD cover
inset? Or when you handle a limited edition vinyl copy?
Jed is of course one of the worst types of freeloader.
>
> And what this has to do with GNU/Linux and/or F/OSS is a mystery to
> me... Please clarify, Hadron.
Fairly obvious I would think.
Rick
> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/
newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>
> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>
> ,----
> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
> regarding | art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
> disposable, and a | lot of times ignorable.
> `----
>
> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
> and the colatards in as many days.
So, quark, how is this discussing the benefits of Linux compared to other
operating systems?
--
Rick
Hadron
Freeloading is a common thread/subject here.
But hang on!?!??!
What do I see here?
Hey! DFS! Over here!
Rick thinks Linux *IS* an OS now!
Doh!
Poor, poor Rick.
Peter Köhlmann
> Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>>>
>>> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>>>
>>> ,----
>>> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
>>> | regarding art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
>>> | disposable, and a lot of times ignorable.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped
>>> COLA and the colatards in as many days.
>>>
>>
>> Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the
>> "true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile
>> expert", "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin",
>> "defragger professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven",
>> "time coordinator", "email sage", "tripwire wizard", "Pulseaudio
>> rockstar" and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron Quark, aka Hans
>> Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve Townsend, aka
>> Ubuntu King
>
> I hate to point this out Kohlkopf, but no where did I mention "Linux
> users" specifically. I said Freetards. My title was this:
>
> Freetards "lower the experience" and "cheapen it"
/quote
Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped COLA
and the colatards in as many days.
/unquote
You should quit lying openly that much, Hadron Snot Quark
> Hows your C lessons going? Figured out what "struct Foo * tun" means
> yet? ROTFLM. "Crafted" any more C today?
So you still claim that assigning a value to a pointer will result in
memory access? Interesting
> More lies from you documented. You must still be smarting at getting
> idiots lessons in C from Tim, Zeke and myself after Liarnut telling us
> how good you were at it.
>
> Now, admittedly a LOT of downloading is also done by people who actually
> pay too. No doubt about it.
>
> But the cheapskate freetards do the most damage.
>
Which according to you by 99% use windows
--
You're genuinely bogus.
JEDIDIAH
> On 2009-07-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>> "downloading" doesn't require that the work be gratis.
>>
>> "downloading" also includes Amazon and iTunes and anyone that
>> inclues to digitize any bit of art they might have lying around.
>>
>> Making buying something a bother doesn't make it any more valuable
>> or "romantic". There was never anything "romantic" about buying a
>> hunk of plastic. He's trying to manufacture a mystique where there
>> never was any. He might have a point if he were talking about gigs
>> but he isn't.
>>
>> He's trying to create artificial scarcity. Unless he's obscure that
>> never really existed of course.
>
> I couldn't agree more.
>
> And what this has to do with GNU/Linux and/or F/OSS is a mystery to
> me... Please clarify, Hadron.
The self professed great champion of Linux and Linux user is trying
to create guilt by association by painting us all with this freetard
brush and then associating us with music pirates.
In truth, it is the Windummies that have no care for "ownership" or
the work involved in creating a creative or artistic work. Windows
users are a den of pirates. So they extend this to movies and music.
Big surprise there.
I need to find some time to play Penumbra...
--
Linux: because everyone should get to drink the beer of their |||
choice and not merely be limited to pretensious imports or hard cider. / | \
Rick
> Rick <no...@nomail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:05 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/
>> newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>>>
>>> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>>>
>>> ,----
>>> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
>>> regarding | art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
>>> disposable, and a | lot of times ignorable. `----
>>>
>>> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped
>>> COLA and the colatards in as many days.
>>
>> So, quark, how is this discussing the benefits of Linux compared to
>> other operating systems?
>
> Freeloading is a common thread/subject here.
>
>
> But hang on!?!??!
>
> What do I see here?
>
> Hey! DFS! Over here!
>
> Rick thinks Linux *IS* an OS now!
>
> Doh!
>
> Poor, poor Rick.
... and DFS shows he has no idea what the COLA Charter is. Why am I not
surprised?
--
Rick
DFS
You said "Linux is not an operating system", (p)Rick. You said it's just a
kernel.
Typical dishonest idiocy from (p)Rick, always changing his definition of
Linux to try and "win".
Rick
Look.. kindergarten boy shows he has no knowledge of the COLA Charter:
"For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other operating
systems.
--
Rick
DFS
You said "Linux is not an operating system." Why are you now claiming it
is?
Or is the charter - and everyone else - wrong, and only you know what
"Linux" means?
heh! You're a dumbass, (p)Rick.
Rick
--
Rick
Snit
7/24/09 9:33 AM:
What does your post have to do with the charter? It says nothing about
whining when others go off charter!
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
7/24/09 9:43 AM:
What does your post have to do with the charter?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
7/24/09 9:53 AM:
Your post has nothing to do with what the charter says you should be talking
about.
Isn't irony grand!
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
TomB
> TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2009-07-24, the following emerged from the brain of JEDIDIAH:
>>> "downloading" doesn't require that the work be gratis.
>>>
>>> "downloading" also includes Amazon and iTunes and anyone that
>>> inclues to digitize any bit of art they might have lying around.
>>>
>>> Making buying something a bother doesn't make it any more valuable
>>> or "romantic". There was never anything "romantic" about buying a
>>> hunk of plastic. He's trying to manufacture a mystique where there
>>> never was any. He might have a point if he were talking about gigs
>>> but he isn't.
>>>
>>> He's trying to create artificial scarcity. Unless he's obscure that
>>> never really existed of course.
>>
>> I couldn't agree more.
>
> Then you didn't understand what jed said.
Pretty damn sure I did.
> It's ludicrous to suggest a binary copy has the same "value" to you, in
> general, as a proper product.
A CD is a 'binary copy' too. As is a DVD, and any other medium to
distribute multimedia today.
> You don't get a rush when reading a professionally produced CD cover
> inset? Or when you handle a limited edition vinyl copy?
I do think special editions of CDs/DVDs and authentic vinyl have added
value. But a run of the mill release? Nope.
Mind you, we're talking about the medium itself here. Sound quality is
another issue. I do agree that the immense popularity of compressed
audio and video did lower the quality standards people have for audio
and video.
>> And what this has to do with GNU/Linux and/or F/OSS is a mystery to
>> me... Please clarify, Hadron.
>
> Fairly obvious I would think.
Not to me. You are comparing legal downloading of F/OSS with illegal
downloading of music/video. I really don't see the connection...
--
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Ad Hominem (Don Zeiglers and HPT's coach)
news:k4adnTaw4K7yf_TX...@supernews.com...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+
+ C.O.L.A. Newcomer FAQ and Primer
+ Edition: 23 - 10/24/07
+ Group: comp.os.linux.advocacy
+
+ Copyright (c) 2002-2006 Linux Reality Team
+
+ PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
+
+ http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
+
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Welcome to comp.os.linux.advocacy, otherwise known as cola.
This FAQ will try to address most of the issues regarding Linux and
this group. Unlike the other FAQs, this one will try to be as
realistic as possible. If you want the straight information from
real people, continue reading. If you would like to be told what
you want to hear, or read a bunch of misinformation that you will
regret later as you find things don't work as they should, feel free
to read one of the other "FAQS" in here.
OK, on to the info! ADDED NEW SECTION BELOW!
Here's a list of some frequently asked and answered question here
and elsewhere that you may find useful in your quest to try linux.
Read these carefully before you decide to invest time in Linux, you
may find that you have better things you can do instead.
SECTION ONE - INSTALLATION
--------------------------
1.1 Q: I heard linux was easy to install, is it?
A: That depends on what distro you try. Most of them will have
trouble detecting all your hardware. Most new hardware devices
are not supported. If your lucky you might be able to find
something that someone threw together on the net. But that's
after spending a couple hours searching and probably won't take
advantage of your hardware to it's fullest capability.
1.2 Q: Once I get it installed, then what?
A: Then you get the joy of making sure everything is configured
right. Plan on a minimum of two hours per device to get it to
work. That's if the device is even supported.
1.3 Q: What happens if I'm in the middle of an install and the
installation freezes or just stops?
A: You get to reboot and start all over again. This happens
every so often with Linux. It seems like it's buggy install
routines or something. Ain't Linux grand?
1.4 Q: What's the deal?! I installed Linux and it took up almost 2GB
hard drive space!
A: The Linux distros usually install a LOT of never-used programs
on the default install. You can pick and choose what you want,
but good luck figuring out what programs are needed and what is
useless, obscure tools. Linux usually installs stuff like 10
different editors, 12 different mail clients, and so on.
(more to come...)
SECTION TWO - CONFIGURATION
---------------------------
2.1 Q: What's with all these cryptic files?
A: All of Linux is configured with cryptic text files. Some of
the more user-friendly distros have configuration utilities
that claim to do it for you, but success with these works
sometimes and other times don't, so sometimes you have to
edit them by hand. With Linux's spotty reliability in UI
programming, you might as well get used to it.
2.2 Q: What is killall, HUP, ls, cat, rm, which, etc and why are
these programs telling me to do them? Arggg!!
A: These are command line programs that do things within the
system. It's what makes Linux a powerful OS for those that
are experienced with it. But it's also what makes it a pain
in the arse to use and inefficient as a desktop system. Who
wants to type all the time when they can just click?!
(more to come...)
SECTION THREE - APPLICATIONS
----------------------------
3.1 Q: Where can I get some programs to run on linux?
A: Good question. Because Linux doesn't have a large user base
on the desktop,(I think it's about 0.24%, less than 1%)
companies that make software won't write their programs for
Linux. There's a lot of community created programs out there,
and some are fairly good, but those are few and far between.
Most of the Linux software that tries to mimic it's windows
counterpart is substandard. It's usually slow and buggy and
early in development.
3.2 Q: I tried to install an RPM but I got 'failed dependencies', what
is that?
A: That's Linux's version of DLL hell. Different versions and
distros use different libraries. So unlike windows where
programs will run on many different versions, Linux programs
will fail if they're not made for your specific version.
3.3 Q: What is compiling and configure, make and make install? And
what is a makefile?
A: This is a way to build the programs from the source code
under Linux. When the question above fails, you can always
build it yourself. The advantage is that it works most of
the time. The disadvantage is that it takes forever to build
large programs, you need to know some cryptic commands and
you have to do all this on a command line. Unlike Windows
where you just double click and you are done.
3.4 Q: Can I go to my local store to buy any Linux applications?
A: Not really. You can buy Linux itself at various stores. But
not too many commercial companies make applications for Linux,
there's no profit in it with 0.24% of the desktop market.
(more to come...)
SECTION FOUR - SPEED ISSUES
---------------------------
4.1 Q: Why is Linux so slow?
A: Linux is built on the technology of the old UNIX OS's. Even
the graphical user interface of Linux is a separate program that
is the same type they used back in the older UNIX days. So
working with old technology will give you the old technology
responsiveness. Also, a lot of the GUI's, although nice to look
at, are still not mature. Using them is slow and sluggish
compared to, say, Windows.
(more to come...)
SECTION FIVE - CONSISTENCY
--------------------------
5.1 Q: Why are the windows different looking?
A: Since Linux isn't built by one company, group or have any
governing body, programs and interfaces can vary dramatically.
You can have everything from the nice look of KDE, to something
as ugly as TK and everything in between. You'll usually see some
varying UI stile in Linux.
5.2 Q: Should I buy Suse Linux?
A: No. They make it difficult to get it for free. All the other
distros provide free ISO's to download. Suse is the only one
that doesn't provide them but instead has a FTP install that's
hard to get to work. Why should they make it easy? The more
people that can't get the download to work have to spend $80
or more for the boxed set. And on top of all that although
it might have a few more user friendly tools, it's still the
same base Linux system that's in development and that all the
other distros are using. In other words, they're all on about
the same level of struggling to catch up to Windows, so you're
not going to find any earth-shattering features in one compared
to another.
(more to come...)
SECTION SIX - LINUX COMMUNITY
-----------------------------
6.1 Q: What is RTFM?!
A: This is an acronym for Read The Fuc*ing Manual. This is a common
answer you'll get when asking for help in the Linux community.
It's meant to make you feel inadequate while boating the Linux
persons ego at the same time. See, Linux enthusiasts consider
themselves to be guru like and above helping out the simple
newbie. You have to earn your respect by spending countless
hours becoming a kernel hacker before you're worthy of getting
any help.
6.2 Q: Why does everyone think they are better than you when
using Linux?
A: Same as above. When people use Linux they believe since it
takes a little more knowledge to use Linux, they are technically
superior, and see themselves as an elite group that doesn't have
time for the pathetic little Windows people.
(more to come...)
SECTION SEVEN - LINUX ADVOCACY, HELPING OR HURTING?
---------------------------------------------------
7.1 Q: Everyone in here says linux is perfect, why would they say that
if it isn't?
A: We really don't know. Maybe they've used Linux so long that
they've gotten used to it. Some of these people haven't used
Windows in years so they are comparing Linux to the
last windows they used, maybe Windows 3.1 or 95.
7.2 Q: Why does everyone call you a troll when you ask something that
questions linux?
A: Most of the people here in C.O.L.A. think of Linux more like a
religion than an OS. They mostly are MS haters and feel that
Linux is the greatest thing to ever hit computing. So when
someone questions Linux it's like questioning their belief
system. Instead of looking at it with some logic and
reasonable judgment, they will lash out at you can't claim your
are a troll or a paid MS supporter.
7.3 Q: Why does everyone <PLONK> you if you question Linux?
A: Fairly similar to above, Linux advocates can not argue their
point rationally. So to make it look like you are under them
or you are not worth it, and at the same time find an easy
way out of having to prove themselves, they will <PLONK> you.
(more to come...)
SECTION EIGHT - LINUX EVANGELISM, ZEALOTS
-----------------------------------------
8.1 Q: There are some people that call this FAQ lies and seem to treat
it like it's a conspiracy against them, and post all sorts of links
to anti-microsoft articles. Why are they reacting so strongly?
A: The people that are reacting so strongly are most likely the
Linux extremists that believe everything negitive that is said about
Linux comes from Microsoft. Like many cult-like groups, the people
that belong to them don't have the ability to see things rationally
or outside of their view. If someone replies to the FAQ, or
anything questioning a non-favorable view on Linux, that seems a
little "over the edge", do a google search on the person
(http://groups.google.com/) and look at his/her posting history
then decide for yourself if the person is credible or not.
(more to come...)
ray
> Rick <no...@nomail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:05 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> So says Jack White of the White Stripes:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10000000/
>> newsid_10000500/10000506.stm
>>>
>>> 'Downloading has cheapened music'
>>>
>>> ,----
>>> | Download culture isn't a very romantic experience for the fan
>>> regarding | art, it cheapens it and makes it fast forwardable, and
>>> disposable, and a | lot of times ignorable. `----
>>>
>>> Well, that's two industry names who have pretty much bitch slapped
>>> COLA and the colatards in as many days.
>>
>> So, quark, how is this discussing the benefits of Linux compared to
>> other operating systems?
>
> Freeloading is a common thread/subject here.
>
>
> But hang on!?!??!
>
> What do I see here?
>
> Hey! DFS! Over here!
>
> Rick thinks Linux *IS* an OS now!
>
> Doh!
>
> Poor, poor Rick.
So, you have nothing worthwhile to say, so you jack up the noise level.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:00:54 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>> But hang on!?!??!
>>
>> What do I see here?
>>
>> Hey! DFS! Over here!
>>
>> Doh!
>>
>> Poor, poor Rick.
>
> So, you have nothing worthwhile to say, so you jack up the noise level.
"Hadron" doesn't jack up, he jacks off.
--
Q: What do agnostic, insomniac dyslexics do at night?
A: Stay awake and wonder if there's a dog.