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nessuno

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Aug 8, 2009, 7:58:05 PM8/8/09
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<Quote>
Another SEC filing confirmed that Microsoft sees Linux as a threat to
its Windows OS, something Microsoft executives had made pretty clear
already through various public proclamations. Microsoft obliquely
referenced the use of Linux in netbooks as a cause for concern.
Manufacturers are looking to lower costs in emerging markets where
"new, lower-price PC form-factors" are becoming popular, and Linux has
gained some traction as a viable OS for these machines, Microsoft said
in the filing.
</Quote>

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/169869/social_media_takes_a_hit_microsoft_fears_linux.html

Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 8, 2009, 10:06:32 PM8/8/09
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:58:05 -0700 (PDT), nessuno wrote:

> <Quote>
> Another SEC filing confirmed that Microsoft sees Linux as a threat to
> its Windows OS,

Of course they do.
Microsoft would be idiots if they didn't consider all
competition as a threat.

Anything can happen and to assume that just because Linux has
around 1 percent of the desktop market today doesn't account for
the future.

Linux is getting better.
At a snail pace, but getting better.

Who knows what the future brings.

High Plains Thumper

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Aug 8, 2009, 11:08:49 PM8/8/09
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I found this statement interesting in the link, 2nd web page:

[quote]
The filing goes on to note, in a thinly veiled reference to
netbooks, that Linux has gained what Microsoft characterizes as
"some acceptance" as an alternative client OS to Windows, in
particular in "emerging markets" where "competitive pressures
lead OEMs to reduce costs and new, lower-price PC form-factors
gain adoption."
[/quote]

http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/open-source-business/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsId=16085&pn=2

It explains a lot of the trolling here, doesn't it?

--
HPT

Ruel Smith

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Aug 8, 2009, 11:50:35 PM8/8/09
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Moshe Goldfarb <mosheg...@yahoo.com> said on 2009-08-09:

> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:58:05 -0700 (PDT), nessuno wrote:
>
>> <Quote>
>> Another SEC filing confirmed that Microsoft sees Linux as a threat to
>> its Windows OS,
>
> Of course they do.
> Microsoft would be idiots if they didn't consider all
> competition as a threat.
>
Yes, Microsoft has to take notice of Linux's progress. Linux is
popular with web hosting providers, university researchers, a little
here/there with Netbooks and so on. Ubuntu is growing and Dell/HP are
selling at least some Linux-pre-loaded systems. So Linux is taking a
bite out of Microsoft's market, even though little. Microsoft is just
doing business by attacking Linux...it's nothing new.

7

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Aug 9, 2009, 7:16:35 AM8/9/09
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Moshe Goldfarb wrote:


>> Another SEC filing confirmed that Microsoft sees Linux as a threat to
>> its Windows OS,
>
> Of course they do.
> Microsoft would be idiots if they didn't consider all
> competition as a threat.


Verbosity makes things unclear.

Please define how they 'consider' all competition as a threat.


> Anything can happen and to assume that just because Linux has
> around 1 percent of the desktop market today doesn't account for
> the future.
>
> Linux is getting better.
> At a snail pace, but getting better.
>
> Who knows what the future brings.

Micoshaft names RHAT and Canonical as their enemies!
----------------------------------------------------

BEAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

They got nothin better to do?

I'm thinking about that RHAT advert...

�First�they�laugh�at�us
��Then�they�fight�us
���Then�we�win

So we are now at stage 2 where micoshaft is picking a fight
by naming RHAT and Canonical as their enemies.
A few days earlier they named Intel and HP as enemies too.
And Google? - yet another enemy that has destroyed
a large chunk of micoshaft already.
Looks like micoshaft is catching its death from all around.

And only a few days ago micoshaft's Balmer claimed micoshaft
has been fighting Linux for YEARS!!!!
Thats despite all the trolls.

Verbosity makes things unclear.

Either Balmer is lying, or the windummy trolls are lying
or both are liars as Linux continues its meteoric rise
and micoshaft revenue heads south.

Windummy paytard loons all thrown into the trollard soup after
years of lying about Micoshaft claiming it doesn't care about
Linux or that Linux is too insignificant when it was
the exact opposite.

As micoshaft sales have lost 30% of market.
how does micoshaft define competing with Linux?

It can't be anything serious.
All we see here are a bunch of windummy trolls ranting
anti-Linux slogans.
Is that what micoshaft calls competing with Linux?
Is that how they lost 30% market share to Linux?

I am sure all reporters, journalists, bloggers,
Linux engineers, and big bosses of big companies
would all like to know now what Balmer meant by
competing with Linux. Please define.

bbgruff

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Aug 9, 2009, 8:05:34 AM8/9/09
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Ruel Smith wrote:

I think that something *is* new, and that's the economic effect that Linux
had via netbooks etc.
Microsoft were forced to virtually give XP away for use on these.
Sure, it wasn't on first sight costing anything to give XP away - it was
being phased out anyway.
However, when you consider the fact that a netbook sold with (cheap) XP was
a laptop *not* sold with Vista, it really does have an effect on MS.

I've no doubt that the price was paid willingly by Mr Ballmer, and that it
was all carefully calculated, but I imagine that it's been costly.

I will be interested to see what happens now with Windows 7, particularly
with netbooks etc. I really can't imagine that MS will be giving *that*
away :-)

Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 9, 2009, 8:42:10 AM8/9/09
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:08:49 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:


> It explains a lot of the trolling here, doesn't it?

Does it also explain why you advocate piracy HPT?

Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 9, 2009, 8:47:26 AM8/9/09
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:16:35 GMT, 7 wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>
>>> Another SEC filing confirmed that Microsoft sees Linux as a threat to
>>> its Windows OS,
>>
>> Of course they do.
>> Microsoft would be idiots if they didn't consider all
>> competition as a threat.
>
>
> Verbosity makes things unclear.
>
> Please define how they 'consider' all competition as a threat.

For desktops: Apple and Linux
For servers: *nix and Linux.


>
>> Anything can happen and to assume that just because Linux has
>> around 1 percent of the desktop market today doesn't account for
>> the future.
>>
>> Linux is getting better.
>> At a snail pace, but getting better.
>>
>> Who knows what the future brings.
>
>
>
>
>
> Micoshaft names RHAT and Canonical as their enemies!
> ----------------------------------------------------

Adn if you were privy to a high level meeting at Ford you would
hear the same thing said of Toyota.

One of the problems with Linux community, or maybe just in COLA
I'm not sure, is that you guys have no clue how business works.

Schestowitz knows how the big boys play but he ruins his
credibility by turning everything into a huge conspiracy theory.

nessuno

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Aug 9, 2009, 2:33:12 PM8/9/09
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On Aug 9, 5:05 am, bbgruff <bbgr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Ruel Smith wrote:
> > Moshe Goldfarb <moshegoldf...@yahoo.com> said on 2009-08-09:

I was going to make a reply of this sort to Ruel Smith myself. The
impact of Linux on Microsoft is not measured solely by market share
(either on the desktop or on the server side). For example, Linux has
forced Microsoft to maintain support for older versions of Windows
longer than they wanted to (most recently with XP).

It's interesting the Ballmer is more honest about all this than his
trolls are.

Moshe Goldfarb

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Aug 9, 2009, 2:51:36 PM8/9/09
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Baloney.
It was tied directly to consumer outcry over Vista and was
backed up by some very powerful corporate Microsoft customers.

The only place you see Linux mentioned in conjunction with this
is in the Linux freetard groups.

What *is true* is Microsoft selling XP for less in order to
remain competitive in the Netbook arena.

But look what happened.

Linux had 100 percent of the market.
Windows versions were released and Linux dropped to less than 5
percent of the market in a matter of months.

Why?

The consumer spoke.

Personally, I doubt Microsoft had to even reduce their XP price.
Consumers would have bought the Windows versions over the Linux
versions anyway.

All that aside, XP has more than made back it's development cost
and since Microsoft planned on dumping it anyway, what's the big
deal?

Don't delude yourself that consumers will go running to Linux
for any reason based on cost.
It hasn't happened in 15 years and won't happen when Windows 7
gets released.

Homer

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Aug 10, 2009, 8:07:44 AM8/10/09
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Verily I say unto thee, that Ruel Smith spake thusly:

> Microsoft is just doing business by attacking Linux

If Microsoft spent a little more time actually improving their /own/
products, so they could compete based purely on technical merit, and
a little /less/ time "attacking" things, like a bunch of thugs, then
maybe they wouldn't be dragged into court on antitrust charges quite
so often.

> ...it's nothing new.

Yes, Microsoft are extremely good at attacking. Well they should be,
after all they've had three decades of practice.

They're not much good at anything else though.

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K.
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