So where is Snit?
B Gruff
Strange thing, but I think that perhaps we owe this "Susan" a vote of
thanks.
Perhaps somebody could check this for me, but looking back I find that
snit is (was!) a regular and frequent poster here. Just look back. I
have difficulty finding a day he didn't post, and sometimes tens per
day for weeks!
"Susan" appeared, bangs out over 70 posts in 2 days, and snit....???
Just two postings of his overlap her appearance, and by just a few hours
on my count. Somebody check?
I think we ought to be thanking her.
She's done her best, even invoked mac.advcocacy umpteen times just like
old snit used to - but to no avail! No snit!
(- and she's done all this from scratch remember, never posted anywhere
before, yet has quickly worked out who each of you are, your attitudes,
etc.)
I tell you - he's scared of her....... or am I missing something;-)
Bill
Susan Lapinski
Well he has nothing to fear from me because I'm leaving for two weeks
holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you will
hear from me.
I've stated my points and that is all I ever intended to do.
Happy Linux'ing!
Zamfeer Kai Zhek
As an avid reader here (lurker), therefore an outsider
as far as who is familiar with whom in these exchanges,
I can say that, having read several threads in COLA for
about a half hour, this "Susan Lapinski" is probably the
"snit" that used to post so much here.
Why not just stay "snit" and continue on with your
say-so? It's not like people use their real names in
usenet much anyway. :O)
That line about "..jolt drinking, fat dork.." up there
was pretty funny, though.
Z
Rick
(snip)
He's harassing people in CSMA.
--
Rick
Snit
3lmohrF...@individual.net on 8/7/05 8:44 AM:
I was out of town for a few days (went to Las Vegas).
I am now back. I will have to go back and read her posts... thanks for
letting me know to look.
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Snit
pan.2005.08.07....@z.com on 8/7/05 9:51 AM:
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:44:12 +0100, B Gruff wrote:
>
>>
>> Strange thing, but I think that perhaps we owe this "Susan" a vote of
>> thanks.
>>
>> Perhaps somebody could check this for me, but looking back I find that
>> snit is (was!) a regular and frequent poster here. Just look back. I
>> have difficulty finding a day he didn't post, and sometimes tens per
>> day for weeks!
>>
>> "Susan" appeared, bangs out over 70 posts in 2 days, and snit....???
>>
>> Just two postings of his overlap her appearance, and by just a few hours
>> on my count. Somebody check?
>> I think we ought to be thanking her.
>> She's done her best, even invoked mac.advcocacy umpteen times just like
>> old snit used to - but to no avail! No snit!
>> (- and she's done all this from scratch remember, never posted anywhere
>> before, yet has quickly worked out who each of you are, your attitudes,
>> etc.)
>>
>> I tell you - he's scared of her....... or am I missing something;-)
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> As an avid reader here (lurker), therefore an outsider
> as far as who is familiar with whom in these exchanges,
> I can say that, having read several threads in COLA for
> about a half hour, this "Susan Lapinski" is probably the
> "snit" that used to post so much here.
I love it! Whenever I leave for a bit someone is selected to be "me". For
anyone who wishes to push this accusation, I look forward to their support.
Oh, there will be none. :)
>
> Why not just stay "snit" and continue on with your
> say-so? It's not like people use their real names in
> usenet much anyway. :O)
>
> That line about "..jolt drinking, fat dork.." up there
> was pretty funny, though.
--
I am one of only .3% of people who have avoided becoming a statistic.
Snit
pan.2005.08.07...@nomail.com on 8/7/05 11:18 AM:
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:44:12 +0100, B Gruff wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> He's harassing people in CSMA.
>
>
I am? In what way?
Buford
>
> I'm leaving for two weeks
> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
> will hear from me.
Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
on how many posts it takes us to out you?
Snit
pan.2005.08.08....@home.base on 8/7/05 7:22 PM:
Wait - but someone else said Susan was me. So confusing. :)
TheLetterK
GreyCloud
>
> "Buford" <buf...@home.base> stated in post
> pan.2005.08.08....@home.base on 8/7/05 7:22 PM:
>
> > On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:05 -0400, Susan Lapinski wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm leaving for two weeks
> >> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
> >> will hear from me.
> >
> > Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
> > on how many posts it takes us to out you?
> >
> Wait - but someone else said Susan was me. So confusing. :)
>
That would depend on what color of dress you wear.
Snit
8/7/05 8:46 PM:
Do you have a request? :)
--
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that take our breath away.
Sinister Midget
I worked on this little script for just this sort of thing. I thought
Flatso should have a copy handy so s/h/it doesn't forget the steps to
what I decided to label "The Flatfish Dance":
1. Start a new post. Claim to be a small business owner, a student or
an employee, relating what you're doing in some fashion to linux. Be
sure to toss in a few positive comments for effect ("I really like
linux." "We were anticipating the savings we'd have by incorporating
it into our IT structure." "The boss raved constantly about how this
was going to make our company run so much smoother."),
2. Continue talking up some of the positive aspects, such as how
things seemed to run better. It helps to name a few items that have
improved.
3. Introduce a few glitches near the beginning (having to redo a few
documents for customers, a school wanting things in certain formats,
etc), and gradually make them worse (having to take the documents to
another machine [Windoze, naturally] to import and reformat; the need
to make 2 copies of code, 1 in linux and the other redone for
Winders; the loss in savings caused by needing extra machines to do
the simple tasks that "linux can't").
4. Keep the problem creep going as you gradually reach the final
conclusion: linux won't suit our company/isn't accepted at the
university/causes duplication of effort/make up your own and doesn't
live up to the claims.
5. [OPTIONAL] Claim the only place linux is accepted is among linux
loonies and teenagers living in their parents' basement.*
6. Deny knowing who or what flatfish is when the first response outs
you. This is good for a handful of posts.
7. Add in some other groups to spread the argument. Some faves are
alt.linux.suse and alt.os.windows-xp. Any group is fair game, but
those 2 should be primary candidates.
8. Argue, over and over and over, in favor of all of the points you
made, and ignore the picking apart that others are doing to your not-
well-thought-out claims.
9. Keep arguing, and start claiming ad hominem attacks (this is where
a good diversion of subject can start if you opted for using step 5 -
the thread can easily be diverted to claims and counter-claims of who
started the attacks when you find yourself mired in the inevitable
losing battle).(1)
10. When you start getting desparate, change to claims about sound
cards, flash plugins, fonts, video, etc. (1)
11. When everything to this point is collapsing, pick some subject
matter that: a) isn't easily checked, and b) isn't likely too widely
known. In this respect it helps to toss out IBM and some of their
equipment names that most others have never seen (ignoring that you
fall back on IBM stories to save your butt too frequently),
interspersed with software people are probably not familiar with
(AIX, for example). Try to make claims that nobody can call you on
wrt not being able to make linux work on certain hardware, or
specific benchmarks that seem to indicate that even IBM wouldn't try
to use linux for certain things (as if that was some sort of crime).
12. Drop the claims of not knowing who/what flatfish is. But step up
the mantra of "ad hominem attacks ad homnem attacks ad hominem
attacks" to try to divert attention away from your losing end of
things.
13. Keep bringing IBM arguments back into the mix, since that seems
to be the only safe corner left for you to catch your breath.
14. When all else is failing (and it always does) start attacking the
level of linux sales (equated as much as possible with the idea that
'sales == use' without actually saying as much [so you can deny it if
needed]).
15. Keep jumping around, citing phony statistics, unrelated numbers
as evidence (when it's really only proof of something unrelated), the
previous (fabricated) problems you cited, falling back on IBM claims,
pretending to be a victim of attacks that you started yourself, and
so forth.
16. Disappear when the going gets rough.
17. Invent a new identity. Create a google account, find an open
proxy to post through, etc. Make up a new story (that, amazingly,
sounds much like the last 3,946,118,624,515 stories) and go to step 1
again.
* Despite being an option, this is highly encouraged because it allows
you to claim victimhood later on by being conveniently forgetful about
having done this yourself.
(1) The step order for 9 and 10 can be switched in a feeble attempt
to avoid appearing to play the same script continuously.
This could be a fun game. If Flathead just posted one sentence at a
time we could play to see which sentence gets s/h/it outed.
Unfortunately, the whole post has to go out before anybody gets to see
it. So it will always come down to bragging instead of proof:
USER#1: I figured out it was Flatty by the second sentence.
USER#2: Hah! I had it figured out by the middle of the first one!
USER#3: You losers! I knew it when I saw the name!
FLATSO: Ad hominem attack!
--
I still miss Windows, but my aim is getting better.
Buford
> "Buford" <buf...@home.base> stated in post
> pan.2005.08.08....@home.base on 8/7/05 7:22 PM:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:05 -0400, Susan Lapinski wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm leaving for two weeks
>>> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
>>> will hear from me.
>>
>> Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
>> on how many posts it takes us to out you?
>>
> Wait - but someone else said Susan was me. So confusing. :)
People have a tendency to want to believe other people. Salesmen and
other pathological liars have always tried to exploit this, and flatty is
no different. When he comes here in a new identity, he is quickly accused
of being flatfish, which he always denies. He continues to lie about his
identity until this human tendency to want to believe others kicks in in a
few people.
That's what happened, here. A few people began giving him the benefit of
a doubt. The problem was that this "Susan" character knew far too much
about COLA and its regulars to have just wandered in, so a couple of
people started wondering who it might be if it wasn't flatty. Your name
came up quite naturally since it was thought that you stopped posting
around the same time he started.
It will probably even happen again. Flatfish is addicted to hating COLA,
so he'll probably do this for the rest of his life, and he'll undoubtedly
be accused of being you a few more times. I wouldn't worry too much about
it. Most people will recognize him immediately as he sucks at this.
Buford
> I worked on this little script for just this sort of thing. I thought
> Flatso should have a copy handy so s/h/it doesn't forget the steps to what
> I decided to label "The Flatfish Dance":
>
> 1. Start a new post. Claim to be a small business owner, a student or an
> employee, relating what you're doing in some fashion to linux. Be sure
> to toss in a few positive comments for effect ("I really like linux."
> "We were anticipating the savings we'd have by incorporating it into our
> IT structure." "The boss raved constantly about how this was going to
> make our company run so much smoother."),
<snip>
Yup. You've nailed him perfectly. He always follows this same script,
and I'll bet he's unaware of it. The guy is not very creative.
And I'll bet that even after reading your post (and he will read it, of
course), he'll *still* follow this script because he just will not be able
to come up with anything else.
Flatfish: not very creative. Unable to "think outside the box." Full of
hate, pathological liar, not much of a social life.
That's a recipe for what we've been seeing for the last 4 or 5 years.
William Poaster
Midget wrote:
> On 2005-08-08, Buford <buf...@home.base> posted something concerning:
>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:05 -0400, Susan Lapinski wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm leaving for two weeks
>>> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
>>> will hear from me.
>>
>> Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
>> on how many posts it takes us to out you?
>
> I worked on this little script for just this sort of thing. I thought
> Flatso should have a copy handy so s/h/it doesn't forget the steps to what
> I decided to label "The Flatfish Dance":
Excellent! That's Flatfarce down to a 'T'. :-)
<snipped for brevity>
--
"So who will be the next
lucky contender to play
Spot the Flatfish?"
William Poaster
wrote:
One could say "Who gives a shit about Snit". I don't
--
Jumping into Windows is like giving yourself
a self-inflicted gunshot wound."
-- Dustin Sauter, enterprise
systems engineer at Wells Fargo.
B Gruff
Well, thanks for that......
...BUT .... you don't think that this means snit might come back as soon
as you leave, do you?:-(
Bill
GreyCloud
>
> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> stated in post 42F6D57E...@mist.com on
> 8/7/05 8:46 PM:
>
> > Snit wrote:
> >>
> >> "Buford" <buf...@home.base> stated in post
> >> pan.2005.08.08....@home.base on 8/7/05 7:22 PM:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:05 -0400, Susan Lapinski wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm leaving for two weeks
> >>>> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
> >>>> will hear from me.
> >>>
> >>> Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
> >>> on how many posts it takes us to out you?
> >>>
> >> Wait - but someone else said Susan was me. So confusing. :)
> >
> > That would depend on what color of dress you wear.
>
> Do you have a request? :)
>
Try the floral pink with the windows emblems.
Snit
8/8/05 10:34 AM:
How dare you! I do not wear Windows emblems unless I absolutely have to.
How about this one:
I might even be willing to wear a penguin dress... but no windows. Hurumph!
--
BU__SH__
Steve Mackay
You're a proven sockpuppet user. Need I say more?
Snit
pan.2005.08.08....@hotmail.com on 8/8/05 4:33 PM:
>> I love it! Whenever I leave for a bit someone is selected to be "me". For
>> anyone who wishes to push this accusation, I look forward to their support.
>>
>> Oh, there will be none. :)
>
> You're a proven sockpuppet user. Need I say more?
If that is all the support your accusations require, then you are a "proven"
child molester.
No more support is needed, right? After all, I wrote it, as you wrote your
claim... both are equally well supported - which is to say: not at all.
Now if you want to try to support the accusation that I am "Susan" by all
means create a lovely conspiracy theory that you can be proud of. Heck, you
can even post a few PDF files and blurry JPGs if you really want to prove
your case, right? :)
Oh, wait - you were just trolling.
--
"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
- Anatole France
GreyCloud
>
> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> stated in post 42F797A8...@mist.com on
> 8/8/05 10:34 AM:
>
> > Snit wrote:
> >>
> >> "GreyCloud" <cum...@mist.com> stated in post 42F6D57E...@mist.com on
> >> 8/7/05 8:46 PM:
> >>
> >>> Snit wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Buford" <buf...@home.base> stated in post
> >>>> pan.2005.08.08....@home.base on 8/7/05 7:22 PM:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:05 -0400, Susan Lapinski wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm leaving for two weeks
> >>>>>> holiday in Ontario and then it's off to school so this is the last you
> >>>>>> will hear from me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Right, right. See you on the next name change, flatty. Wanna take bets
> >>>>> on how many posts it takes us to out you?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Wait - but someone else said Susan was me. So confusing. :)
> >>>
> >>> That would depend on what color of dress you wear.
> >>
> >> Do you have a request? :)
> >>
> >
> > Try the floral pink with the windows emblems.
>
> How dare you! I do not wear Windows emblems unless I absolutely have to.
> How about this one:
>
> http://snipurl.com/gt5v
>
> I might even be willing to wear a penguin dress... but no windows. Hurumph!
>
Well, an Apple a day keeps the doctor away. And possibly a
few others as well.
Look on the bright side... the last report about Vista seems
to show Vista to be an Apple copycat.
I can see the Apple tree thru that window.
Mark Kent
Buford <buf...@home.base> espoused:
The accusation was almost certainly from a snit sock-puppet. billygruff
made a joke, snit grabbed it as a kind of 'hey, perhaps somebody really
does like me' kind of lifeline, and followed up with a typical snit
sock-puppet to make this accusation. Afaict, not one single person
actually took this seriously, and Gary was identified immediately by
several people - there wasn't even a hint about snit until days after
gary had been properly identified. There might be such accusations in
the future, but only from Snit sock-puppets, I think.
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Snit
cl5ms2-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk on 8/9/05 1:21 AM:
Hmmm, since your definition of a "snit sock-puppet" has absolutely no baring
on reality, you sure can claim you are right.
Face it: you are making baseless accusations. Why?
--
"Innovation is not about saying yes to everything. It's about saying NO to
all but the most crucial features." -- Steve Jobs
_________________________________________
Steve Mackay
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> stated in post
> pan.2005.08.08....@hotmail.com on 8/8/05 4:33 PM:
>
>>> I love it! Whenever I leave for a bit someone is selected to be "me". For
>>> anyone who wishes to push this accusation, I look forward to their support.
>>>
>>> Oh, there will be none. :)
>>
>> You're a proven sockpuppet user. Need I say more?
>
> If that is all the support your accusations require, then you are a "proven"
> child molester.
LOL! You're a funny 'lil troll, arencha snit.
>
> No more support is needed, right? After all, I wrote it, as you wrote your
> claim... both are equally well supported - which is to say: not at all.
>
> Now if you want to try to support the accusation that I am "Susan" by all
> means create a lovely conspiracy theory that you can be proud of.
I never said you were "Susan".
> Heck, you
> can even post a few PDF files and blurry JPGs if you really want to prove
> your case, right? :)
Hey, and you can modify multiple times, post them on your site, and claim
they are the "originals". Oh wait... You've done that already.
>
> Oh, wait - you were just trolling.
Naah. I leave that to the experts like you.
Snit
> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:48:21 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> "Steve Mackay" <steve_...@hotmail.com> stated in post
>> pan.2005.08.08....@hotmail.com on 8/8/05 4:33 PM:
>>
>>>> I love it! Whenever I leave for a bit someone is selected to be "me". For
>>>> anyone who wishes to push this accusation, I look forward to their support.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, there will be none. :)
>>>
>>> You're a proven sockpuppet user. Need I say more?
>>
>> If that is all the support your accusations require, then you are a "proven"
>> child molester.
>
> LOL! You're a funny 'lil troll, arencha snit.
That's the spirit, Steve! You make a silly and unsupported accusation
against me, I do the same "for" you (though unlike you I am honest about it)
and then you do it again!
Ok, now that we have three good examples of baseless accusations can we call
it quits? Somehow I doubt it - you just love this game!
>> No more support is needed, right? After all, I wrote it, as you wrote your
>> claim... both are equally well supported - which is to say: not at all.
>>
>> Now if you want to try to support the accusation that I am "Susan" by all
>> means create a lovely conspiracy theory that you can be proud of.
>
> I never said you were "Susan".
Hmmm, look up and try, if you can, to understand what *you* wrote:
1) I stated I looked forward to support of the baseless accusation, but then
commented that I really knew there would be none.
2) You made a broader accusation and then asked "Need I say more". Clearly
you were supporting the baseless accusation that I was posting as
"Susan".
[Here is where you back peddle and claim that is not at all what you
meant and that you were just making baseless accusations out of the
context of my comment]
See how easy it is to show you are a liar. Please note, however, that when
I make an accusation I supply support - in the form of quotes from you (see
above).
>
>> Heck, you can even post a few PDF files and blurry JPGs if you really want to
>> prove your case, right? :)
>
> Hey, and you can modify multiple times, post them on your site, and claim
> they are the "originals". Oh wait... You've done that already.
Wow... more accusations from you posted with -*gasp*- absolutely no support.
You do that a lot...
>> Oh, wait - you were just trolling.
>
> Naah. I leave that to the experts like you.
Er? I have just shown you to be lying, above, and then you make more
baseless accusation.
Well, then, as long as you are making baseless accusation, you *are* a
proven child molester. Keep in mind that the baseless accusation game is
the one *you* are pushing, so you should have no problem with my referring
to you as a "proven child molester".
Here comes you attempts to twist your game so that it will apply to you but
not me... enjoy. :)
--
God made me an atheist - who are you to question his authority?
Sigmond
> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:48:21 -0700, Snit wrote:
You tell him Stevie! Snit is a goober.
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