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Roy Schestowitz

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Dec 23, 2006, 6:45:09 PM12/23/06
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IE7 users: beware! Microsoft telling their staff not to touch it...

,----[ Quote ]
| My mum's friend, who's been working for Microsoft for quite a while,
| just told my mum that Microsoft have started telling their employees
| not to use IE7 as it crashes a lot.
`----

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=36928.0


Related:

IE 7 Cautionary Tale

,----[ Quote ]
| After updating to the new browser, none of the computers
| could access QuickBooks, the CRM system or e-mail. The IT
| manager had to remotely administrator each machine, from
| the U.S. He turned back to a restore point a day earlier,
| undoing the chaos caused by IE 7.
`----

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/web_services_browser/ie_7_cautionary_tale.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
http://tinyurl.com/ycjw4k

Microsoft removes IE7 for Windows XP from WSUS

,----[ Quote ]
| We have verified a problem in the metadata for the latest IE7.0 update
| rollup package...
`----

http://bink.nu/Article8933.bink


Wake up and smell the IE7!

,----[ Quote ]
| The results of our study suggest that around 12.7 million websites are
| in need of a little TLC because of IE7. Maybe even more.
`----

http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/wake-up-and-smell-the-ie7


IE7 'critical update' causes headaches for managed desktop environments

,----[ Quote ]
| As many organisations may not feel compelled to turn off automatic
| updates, they should be prepared to face this is issue when Internet
| Explorer 7 is downloaded and installed automatically.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/12/ie7_critical_update_managed_desktops/

Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 23, 2006, 7:34:41 PM12/23/06
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:45:09 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> IE7 users: beware! Microsoft telling their staff not to touch it...
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| My mum's friend, who's been working for Microsoft for quite a while,
>| just told my mum that Microsoft have started telling their employees
>| not to use IE7 as it crashes a lot.
> `----
>
> http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=36928.0

Yeah, and my best friends dog's girlfriend's owners cousin twice removed is
a kernel developer and says Linux sux, use Windows.

Mine sounds just as credible.

Tattoo Vampire

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Dec 23, 2006, 8:34:06 PM12/23/06
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Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

> Yeah, and my best friends dog's girlfriend's owners cousin twice
> removed is a kernel developer and says Linux sux, use Windows.
>
> Mine sounds just as credible.

This from the guy who believes all of flattie's various anecdotes and tall
tales.

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[tv]

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Sinister Midget

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Dec 23, 2006, 8:51:20 PM12/23/06
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On 2006-12-24, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted something concerning:

Apology accepted.

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Bobbie

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Dec 24, 2006, 10:45:10 AM12/24/06
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While taking a break from performing an interpretive dance of 'Flight of

Well here's on for you.
At work we've got HP desktops, running Windows XP with Internet Explorer
6.
As they are set up primarily for work the IT staff had never installed
options like Flash Player. Having used Linux for quite some time and
having encountered web pages where plugins were required to view specific
types of media, I'm used to seeing Firefox's jig saw puzzle piece and the
missing plugin reuired text. Well it would seem that in Internet Explorer
6 just opening YouTube without Flash Player installed is enough to crash
IE6.

And one neat work around I found for not having administrator privileges
to install software on Win XP is to install your software to a folder on
the desktop. I downloaded Firefox for WinXP. And as I started to install
the installer stopped with an error and said that I didn't have permission
to write to C:/program files/firefox. Well, just as a lark I re-ran the
installer but this time pointed to a new folder on the desktop. Firefox
then installed and ran.
Neat-o
I was then able to go to YouTube and entertain myself over coffee break.


--
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http://members.shaw.ca/bobbie4/index.htm

email Bobbie @ bobbie4R...@shaw.ca
remember to 'remove this'

Bobbie recently switched to Ubuntu 6.
Why? Cause he can, that's why.


Jerry McBride

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Dec 24, 2006, 11:15:56 AM12/24/06
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Bobbie wrote:

As a side note on IE7... I just made friends with a guy by helping sort out
his IE7 problems on his new DELL desktop. It went like this... From the
desktop, clicking IE7 open would bring up the browser, but IE7 said "cannot
display webpage" to everything he tried to look at. However, after burning
a copy of the IE7 install app to a cdrom from an OLDER computer, he was
able to run IE7 off the cdrom and surf anywhere he desired from the new
DELL. Turns out it was a firewall setup issue... After setting up the
firewall properly, he can now surf the net with the IE7 that was included
with his new DELL...

Now... the BIG question... What's up with microsofts firewall??? Why did it
block web access to the browser on the harddrive, but not the one on the
cdrom?

You gotta' love this microsoft shit... it's amusing to say the least...

--

Jerry McBride

flatfish+++

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Dec 24, 2006, 12:09:50 PM12/24/06
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 11:15:56 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:


> As a side note on IE7... I just made friends with a guy by helping sort out
> his IE7 problems on his new DELL desktop. It went like this... From the
> desktop, clicking IE7 open would bring up the browser, but IE7 said "cannot
> display webpage" to everything he tried to look at. However, after burning
> a copy of the IE7 install app to a cdrom from an OLDER computer, he was
> able to run IE7 off the cdrom and surf anywhere he desired from the new
> DELL. Turns out it was a firewall setup issue... After setting up the
> firewall properly, he can now surf the net with the IE7 that was included
> with his new DELL...
>
> Now... the BIG question... What's up with microsofts firewall??? Why did it
> block web access to the browser on the harddrive, but not the one on the
> cdrom?
>
> You gotta' love this microsoft shit... it's amusing to say the least...


Kelsey is that you?


Bobbie

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Dec 24, 2006, 2:33:11 PM12/24/06
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While taking a break from performing an interpretive dance of 'Flight of

flatfish+++ is that you???

Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 24, 2006, 3:42:23 PM12/24/06
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Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it can't.
He must either have had a third party firewall (like Norton) or a hardware
firewall.

Roy Culley

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Dec 24, 2006, 5:34:42 PM12/24/06
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<1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,

Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>
> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
> can't.

It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.

Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)

--
I've asked time and time again for people to prove that I primarily spout
FUD. - Funkenbusch (COLA's comedian), Sat, 2 Dec 2006

Tim Smith

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Dec 24, 2006, 6:31:29 PM12/24/06
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In article <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,

Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it can't.
> He must either have had a third party firewall (like Norton) or a hardware
> firewall.

Or he found some complaint in a forum, and posted it here as his own,
botching it in the process.

--
--Tim Smith

flatfish+++

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Dec 24, 2006, 10:20:55 PM12/24/06
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Yea.
It's another "kelsey like" fantasy for sure.
Interesting how the Linux advocates aren't jumping all over the obvious
holes in that post.

Of course, it's an anti-Microsoft post so why should they.

Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 25, 2006, 9:14:03 AM12/25/06
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:

> begin risky.vbs
> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>
>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>> can't.
>
> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.

You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?

> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)

Either you are secure or you're not.

Roy Culley

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Dec 25, 2006, 10:11:37 AM12/25/06
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begin risky.vbs
<scbl5m80jbi9$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,

Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>> can't.
>>
>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>
> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?

Because MS's firewall is a joke Erik. Don't you get it?

>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
>> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>
> Either you are secure or you're not.

Your ignorance is never ending Erik. The simple fact is Windows is
more insecure than any *nix. Why? Because it is fundamentally insecure
by design.

There are levels of security Erik my boy. Windows is simply lacking
what people expect and deserve as basic security. That is why Windows
is the target of choice. No amount of hacking the code will make an
insecure design secure.

0-day exploits for Vista on sale before the OS has been made generally
available! From a security aspect Windows is just a total failure.
Live with it Erik.

Sinister Midget

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Dec 25, 2006, 10:36:32 AM12/25/06
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On 2006-12-25, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted something concerning:

> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>> can't.
>>
>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>
> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?

Then what gives them the intestinal fortitude to label it a firewall?

>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
>> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>
> Either you are secure or you're not.

I can use the Christmas chuckle. But 'tis the season to feel sorry for
retards, not to laugh at them.

You have my condolences.

--
Whip me. Beat me. Windows ME(tm).

William Poaster

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Dec 25, 2006, 11:18:42 AM12/25/06
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Yes, but when fate presents you with an idiot, you feel obliged to take
advantage of it! <grin>

> You have my condolences.

--
On the 12th day of Christmas, M$ gave to me....
12 patches patching,
11 apps screwed up,
10 more vulnerabilities,
9 google searches,
8 phone support calls,
7 blast & dammits,
6 hours downloading
5 REEEE-BOOOTS!
4 Oh, fucks!
3 Bloody hells,
2 defrags
& a clusterfuck of a windows OS!

Sinister Midget

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Dec 25, 2006, 11:40:20 AM12/25/06
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On 2006-12-25, William Poaster <w...@kubuntu110.eu> posted something concerning:

> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:36:32 -0600, Sinister Midget wrote:
>
>> On 2006-12-25, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted
>> something concerning:
>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>>>
>>>> begin risky.vbs
>>>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>, Erik Funkenbusch
>>>> <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>>>> can't.
>>>>
>>>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>>>
>>> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?
>>
>> Then what gives them the intestinal fortitude to label it a firewall?
>>
>>>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim about
>>>> security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>>>
>>> Either you are secure or you're not.
>>
>> I can use the Christmas chuckle. But 'tis the season to feel sorry for
>> retards, not to laugh at them.
>
> Yes, but when fate presents you with an idiot, you feel obliged to take
> advantage of it! <grin>

Some retards are here to teach us. Some to entertain us.

We seem to have a large collection of the latter, in the form of
Windummies, spending a lot of time with this group.

--
If Windows is the answer, it must have been a stupid question.

Roy Culley

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Dec 25, 2006, 1:57:19 PM12/25/06
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begin risky.vbs
<pan.2006.12.25....@kubuntu110.eu>,

William Poaster <w...@kubuntu110.eu> writes:
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:36:32 -0600, Sinister Midget wrote:
>> On 2006-12-25, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted
>> something concerning:
>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>>>
>>>> begin risky.vbs
>>>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>, Erik Funkenbusch
>>>> <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>>>> can't.
>>>>
>>>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>>>
>>> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?
>>
>> Then what gives them the intestinal fortitude to label it a firewall?
>>
>>>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim about
>>>> security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>>>
>>> Either you are secure or you're not.
>>
>> I can use the Christmas chuckle. But 'tis the season to feel sorry for
>> retards, not to laugh at them.
>
> Yes, but when fate presents you with an idiot, you feel obliged to take
> advantage of it! <grin>

Poor Erik, He stills stands by his claim that security is a binary
thing. I never took him as an idiot until he wrote that. Of course, it
suits MS's cause to claim such hence why Erik wrote it.

Poor poor Erik, letting your masters make you look the idiot.

--
Security is one of those funny things. You can talk about being "more"
secure, but there's no such thing. A vulnerability is a vulnerability, and
even one makes you just as insecure as anyone else. Security is a binary
condition, either you are or you aren't. - Funkenbusch 1 Oct 2006

Jim Richardson

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Dec 25, 2006, 2:40:53 PM12/25/06
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I loved your claim that no computer was more secure than another, thius
proving that Windows Vista is no more secure than Win3.1


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--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,
but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 25, 2006, 11:57:18 PM12/25/06
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:40:53 -0800, Jim Richardson wrote:

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> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 08:14:03 -0600,
> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>>
>>> begin risky.vbs
>>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
>>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>>> can't.
>>>
>>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>>
>> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?
>>
>>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
>>> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>>
>> Either you are secure or you're not.
>
> I loved your claim that no computer was more secure than another, thius
> proving that Windows Vista is no more secure than Win3.1

That's completely true.

Jim Richardson

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Dec 26, 2006, 1:22:20 AM12/26/06
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:57:18 -0600,


Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:40:53 -0800, Jim Richardson wrote:
>
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>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 08:14:03 -0600,
>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>>>
>>>> begin risky.vbs
>>>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
>>>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>>>> can't.
>>>>
>>>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>>>
>>> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?
>>>
>>>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
>>>> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>>>
>>> Either you are secure or you're not.
>>
>> I loved your claim that no computer was more secure than another, thius
>> proving that Windows Vista is no more secure than Win3.1
>
> That's completely true.


No, your claim is ludicrous, humourous, but ludicrous.

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"It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in"

Sinister Midget

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Dec 26, 2006, 7:14:27 PM12/26/06
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 at 04:57 GMT, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted something concerning:

Yes. Completely true that you said it. Also probably completely true in
actuality.

But there *are* other OSes, ones that are *more* secure than Windows
<anyversion>. Even Windows could be *more* secure if it's protected by
the right stuff (but not much you can do with it on its own). It
doesn't matter whether you're unable to comprehend that, or you're
being intentionally obtuse.

--
Linux is like a wigwam: no Windows, no Gates and Apache inside.

Mark Kent

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Dec 27, 2006, 2:43:01 AM12/27/06
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Jim Richardson <war...@eskimo.com> espoused:

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> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:57:18 -0600,
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>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:40:53 -0800, Jim Richardson wrote:
>>
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>>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 08:14:03 -0600,
>>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:34:42 +0100, Roy Culley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> begin risky.vbs
>>>>> <1c4323ehqovpq$.d...@funkenbusch.com>,
>>>>> Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsofts firewall doesn't block outgoing requests. In fact, it
>>>>>> can't.
>>>>>
>>>>> It can't? No doubt you regard this as a feature.
>>>>
>>>> You know it can't, so why are you playing stupid?
>>>>
>>>>> Truly pathetic ain't it Erik. Is this where your ludicrous claim
>>>>> about security being a binary thing comes from? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Either you are secure or you're not.
>>>
>>> I loved your claim that no computer was more secure than another, thius
>>> proving that Windows Vista is no more secure than Win3.1
>>
>> That's completely true.
>
>
> No, your claim is ludicrous, humourous, but ludicrous.
>

Has he overdone the christmas spirits?

--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
"Elvis is my copilot."
-- Cal Keegan

Jim Richardson

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Dec 27, 2006, 9:30:27 PM12/27/06
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If so, he's been doing them for a month or more...

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