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Cyberwasteland

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Aug 25, 2005, 3:45:03 PM8/25/05
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Everyone...
Josh, DFS, flatty, and selected other trolls are offering
trollercoaster rides over, under, and through individual postings on
several NGs - mostly those related to Linux.

The price for each ride varies, but the most expensive (other than
K-Man) is Josh's subtle, "I coaxed you into an argument because you
believe my bullshit" ride - the cost is wasting your time rebutting his
diatribes because you actually believe he is:

A) Going to school and - poor him - no schools use Linux,

B) Works at a store where his incompetent managers decided to sell
Linux boxes and failed, causing a major economic drain in his region,
leaving crops to fail, children to starve, and no medicine for the sick
and dying (added for dramatic effect).

C) Anyone running Ubuntu on a 400Mhz CPU, 96MB of memory, using the
enlightenment desktop, running Pan and Sylpheed Claws, and MySQL is
obviously a God forsaken liar - making /all/ Linux users outright liars
who are damned to the abyss.

I'm sure there are other trollercoaster rides under Josh's AOL nym - or
whichever nym he shifts to at any given time.

So, remember, when you read his most recent fabrication and take it at
face value - you've already been taken. Responding to his imaginary
trauma drama keeps him coming back.

Ray Ingles

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Aug 25, 2005, 4:16:20 PM8/25/05
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In article <1124999103....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

Cyberwasteland wrote:
> C) Anyone running Ubuntu on a 400Mhz CPU, 96MB of memory, using the
> enlightenment desktop, running Pan and Sylpheed Claws, and MySQL is
> obviously a God forsaken liar - making /all/ Linux users outright liars
> who are damned to the abyss.

I just Frankensteined together a PIII/450 with 512MB for my kids, and
Ubuntu is, I'll admit, a bit suggish there. Usable, but a bit pokey.
But I'm running the default Gnome desktop.

I've run the same PIII with 192MB under XFCE and it's snappy as
anything. I'd believe Enlightenment could be usable with 96MB. Maybe
I'll give it a try sometime, though with the chips I have I can't get
below 128MB.

Oh, wait, the kernel has the "mem=" option. No worries, don't
even have to open the case.

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Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

"The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown
men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak."
- Robert A. Heinlein on censorship.

B Gruff

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:09:05 PM8/25/05
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On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:45 Cyberwasteland wrote:

> So, remember, when you read his most recent fabrication

Will things improve when he gets back to school?
When does the Summer vacation end in the U.S.?

Bill

Sinister Midget

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:28:04 PM8/25/05
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On 2005-08-25, B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> posted something concerning:

It's over in most places.

Joshfish doesn't go to school. Unless you mean that as in a school of
flattened fishies.

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Cyberwasteland

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:32:22 PM8/25/05
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Indeed - he's a student of sole, eh?
>- -
>I troubleshoot MS crapware for a living, which is why I use LInux.

B Gruff

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:42:46 PM8/25/05
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On Friday 26 August 2005 00:28 Sinister Midget wrote:

> On 2005-08-25, B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> posted something
> concerning:
>> On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:45 Cyberwasteland wrote:
>>
>>> So, remember, when you read his most recent fabrication
>>
>> Will things improve when he gets back to school?
>> When does the Summer vacation end in the U.S.?
>
> It's over in most places.
>
> Joshfish doesn't go to school. Unless you mean that as in a school of
> flattened fishies.

Of COURSE he goes to school.
Surely there's a legal requirement in the U.S that ALL pre-adolescents
either go to school or are taught at home by a suitably qualified
person, is there not?

I can't imagine that this young lad has parents capable of teaching him
or anybody else, and if they were paying for a governess for him, I
imagine they'd want more for their money than having him sitting and
trolling Usenet all day!

He's an American schoolboy I tell you.

Bill

William Poaster

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:57:53 PM8/25/05
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begin trojan.vbs It was on Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:28:04 +0000, that Sinister
Midget wrote:

> On 2005-08-25, B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> posted something concerning:
>> On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:45 Cyberwasteland wrote:
>>
>>> So, remember, when you read his most recent fabrication
>>
>> Will things improve when he gets back to school? When does the Summer
>> vacation end in the U.S.?
>
> It's over in most places.
>
> Joshfish doesn't go to school. Unless you mean that as in a school of
> flattened fishies.

I would think "flattened feces" more appropriate, because of the crap he
posts.

--
DFS -self confessed idiot:-
"Nothing wrong with laughing like an idiot. I do it all the time."
Wednesday 17 August 2005 5:03:19 am
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William Poaster

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Aug 25, 2005, 8:00:35 PM8/25/05
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begin trojan.vbs It was on Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:32:22 -0700, that
Cyberwasteland wrote:

> Indeed - he's a student of sole, eh?

They reserved a plaice for him, in the school.

Ray Ingles

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Aug 26, 2005, 7:32:14 AM8/26/05
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In article <slrndgs9v1....@dmc22317.local>, Ray Ingles wrote:

> I've run the same PIII with 192MB under XFCE and it's snappy as
> anything. I'd believe Enlightenment could be usable with 96MB.

Well, I installed and ran XFCE last night, just for grins. A quick
check of 'free' with a terminal and Firefox running showed just over
128MB RAM in use. I didn't have time to install Enlightenment, or
use the "mem=" option, but it certainly doesn't seem impossible that
the system could be usable in 96M. Linux is quite good at swapping
out stuff that's not really in use.

Maybe over the weeked I'll get a chance to try...

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Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

"Osama was once our guy, as was Saddam. You'd think our leaders
would figure out sooner or later that this enemy-of-my-enemy
business often has consequences. But noooo..." - Tom Tomorrow

Linønut

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Aug 26, 2005, 11:22:16 AM8/26/05
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Sinister Midget poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

> Joshfish doesn't go to school. Unless you mean that as in a school of
> flattened fishies.

He's always carping about something.

--
Linux - A most satisfying eXPerience

Paul Bramscher

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Aug 26, 2005, 5:48:06 PM8/26/05
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Someone needs to write a spoof page on flatfish, sort of create a little
mythology around him. I've been active on the Ubuntu forums lately,
where moderators nuke out his sort of junk. The NG's have steadily
declined in quality in the past few years, whereas moderated discussion
systems have gone up.

He's either a paid operative of M$, or else is one of these people who
paradoxically defend the source of their troubles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

John Bailo

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Aug 26, 2005, 8:28:29 PM8/26/05
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Paul Bramscher wrote:

> Someone needs to write a spoof page on flatfish, sort of create a little
> mythology around him. I've been active on the Ubuntu forums lately,
> where moderators nuke out his sort of junk. The NG's have steadily
> declined in quality in the past few years, whereas moderated discussion
> systems have gone up.
>
> He's either a paid operative of M$, or else is one of these people who
> paradoxically defend the source of their troubles:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

It goes beyond that. Every once in a while when reading the "Talkback"
postings on CNET or other places, I see one of his aliases making
anti-Linux posts! Mike Cox appears in more places than just Usenet...


>
>
>
>
> Cyberwasteland wrote:
>> Everyone...
>> Josh, DFS, flatty, and selected other trolls are offering
>> trollercoaster rides over, under, and through individual postings on
>> several NGs - mostly those related to Linux.
>>
>> The price for each ride varies, but the most expensive (other than
>> K-Man) is Josh's subtle, "I coaxed you into an argument because you
>> believe my bullshit" ride - the cost is wasting your time rebutting his
>> diatribes because you actually believe he is:
>>
>> A) Going to school and - poor him - no schools use Linux,
>>
>> B) Works at a store where his incompetent managers decided to sell
>> Linux boxes and failed, causing a major economic drain in his region,
>> leaving crops to fail, children to starve, and no medicine for the sick
>> and dying (added for dramatic effect).
>>
>> C) Anyone running Ubuntu on a 400Mhz CPU, 96MB of memory, using the
>> enlightenment desktop, running Pan and Sylpheed Claws, and MySQL is
>> obviously a God forsaken liar - making /all/ Linux users outright liars
>> who are damned to the abyss.
>>
>> I'm sure there are other trollercoaster rides under Josh's AOL nym - or
>> whichever nym he shifts to at any given time.
>>
>> So, remember, when you read his most recent fabrication and take it at
>> face value - you've already been taken. Responding to his imaginary
>> trauma drama keeps him coming back.
>>

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"...i know that the hypnotized never lie."

Mark Kent

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Aug 28, 2005, 3:39:18 AM8/28/05
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Paul Bramscher <brams00...@tc.umn.edu> espoused:

> Someone needs to write a spoof page on flatfish, sort of create a little
> mythology around him. I've been active on the Ubuntu forums lately,
> where moderators nuke out his sort of junk. The NG's have steadily
> declined in quality in the past few years, whereas moderated discussion
> systems have gone up.
>
> He's either a paid operative of M$, or else is one of these people who
> paradoxically defend the source of their troubles:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
>
>

Please don't top-post.

You don't need to spoof Gary Stewart (aka Flatfish, Trina Swallows,
Josh... and about 50 other nyms which are known); he does it to
himself.

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| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
"Flattery is all right -- if you don't inhale."
-- Adlai Stevenson

Ray Ingles

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Aug 29, 2005, 7:13:03 AM8/29/05
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In article <slrndgtvk9....@dmc22317.local>, Ray Ingles wrote:
> ...it certainly doesn't seem impossible that the system could be

> usable in 96M. Linux is quite good at swapping out stuff that's
> not really in use.

I ran Ubuntu in default Gnome mode with 96MB of RAM. It was surprisingly
usable (I had to pop up a terminal and check "free" to make sure the mem=96M
boot option had actually worked). There was more swapping (actually, with
512MB RAM, there's normally no swapping at all) but it ran fine; I was able
to bring up Firefox, play a couple movies, etc. Not as snappy as with the
full RAM, and running too many apps would definitely impact things, but all
in all I was pleasantly surprised.

I don't have an extra license for XP Pro; it'd be fun to try it on the
same hardware, with the same RAM (XP Pro claims to need 128MB minimum, but
will "support" 64MB... "may limit performance and some features").

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Sincerely,

Ray Ingles (313) 227-2317

Microsoft Windows - You'll envy the dead.

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