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Chris Ahlstrom
Oct 4, 2012, 8:54:56 AM10/4/12
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I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
USB video module enabled.
Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
--install option finished the rest.
While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
bit easier.
Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
about ten minutes to check 'em all.
--
You do know a lot of distros set up auto disk checks at system start in
the fstab which can take hours to complete don't you? Yes. At system
start. I bet ANY professional Linux here has been caught by that when
turning their machine on and needing a fast boot up.... IF they havent
disabled it that is.
-- "Hadron" <ik8oi3$ojc$3...@news.eternal-september.org>
Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
USB video module enabled.
Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
--install option finished the rest.
While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
bit easier.
Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
about ten minutes to check 'em all.
--
You do know a lot of distros set up auto disk checks at system start in
the fstab which can take hours to complete don't you? Yes. At system
start. I bet ANY professional Linux here has been caught by that when
turning their machine on and needing a fast boot up.... IF they havent
disabled it that is.
-- "Hadron" <ik8oi3$ojc$3...@news.eternal-september.org>
Clogwog
Oct 4, 2012, 9:22:22 AM10/4/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for
> my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS
> error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even
> a bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
Welcome to Linux!!!
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for
> my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS
> error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even
> a bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
Poor Creepy, always doing things in a most complicated manner because of the
crap OS he runs!
<chuckle>
Hadron
Oct 4, 2012, 2:06:27 PM10/4/12
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Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> writes:
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
Do you have any idea what a moron you sound like describing the fixes
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
YOU must do to get basic stuff working?
What happened to "it all just works":
Creepy, you're a liar and a fool at times.
--
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Marti Van Lin
Oct 4, 2012, 3:46:35 PM10/4/12
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On 04-10-12 14:54, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
I use a Trust WB-6250X Webcam, costs: $23.31 (€ 18.00) on Ubuntu.
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
Installation instructions: Plug it in.
- Done
Say Cheese, Skype, video chat on any website with Adobe Flash.
No driver had to be installed.
--
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|_|_|0| https://linuxcounter.net/user/513040.html
|0|0|0| http://osg33x.blogspot.com
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Oct 4, 2012, 3:52:56 PM10/4/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>
Hmmm... I got a MK802 and Lubuntu that I would like to get webcam working.
> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for my
> Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS error,
> so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>
> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
> USB video module enabled.
>
> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
> --install option finished the rest.
>
> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even a
> bit easier.
>
> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes due
> to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and it took
> about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>
I plug it in nothing on dmesg.
If I try to run cheese, it searches for webcam in pci devices - but hey this
is an ARM!!!
Mplayer I know some have it working in Raspberry Pi with /dev/video0,
but not me yet.
Gregory Shearman
Oct 4, 2012, 4:34:38 PM10/4/12
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Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo you
only put in the kernel what you *need*.
I think you need a holiday.
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
Gregory Shearman
Oct 4, 2012, 4:35:55 PM10/4/12
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include the driver for it and it "just works".
Clogwog
Oct 4, 2012, 4:46:42 PM10/4/12
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Gregory Shearman wrote:
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam
>>> for my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a
>>> DBUS error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
>>> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
>>> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
>>> --install option finished the rest.
>>>
>>> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
>>> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe
>>> even a bit easier.
>>>
>>> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
>>> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
>>> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
>>> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
>>> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>>
>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>
> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
Not all models, sometimes no picture.
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam
>>> for my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a
>>> DBUS error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
>>> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
>>> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
>>> --install option finished the rest.
>>>
>>> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
>>> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe
>>> even a bit easier.
>>>
>>> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
>>> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
>>> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
>>> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
>>> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>>
>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>
> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1003743
>
> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo you
> only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>
> I think you need a holiday.
Marti Van Lin
Oct 4, 2012, 4:51:42 PM10/4/12
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On 04-10-12 22:34, Gregory Shearman wrote:
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for
>>> my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS
>>> error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
>>> USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
>>> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
>>> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
>>> --install option finished the rest.
>>>
>>> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
>>> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even
>>> a bit easier.
>>>
>>> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
>>> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
>>> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
>>> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
>>> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>>
>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
Liar! All I needed to do on Ubuntu to use my webcam was: plug it in. On
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> I use "cheese" for some webcam stuff. So I bought a small webcam for
>>> my Gentoo box and emerged cheese and it wouldn't run. It was a DBUS
>>> error, so I tried uvcview. It also wouldn't run.
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
>>> USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Ran genkernel with --menuconfig option, made a couple of settings
>>> recommended at the Gentoo wiki, and let it build and install itself.
>>> The build was very quick, thanks to the --no-clean option, and the
>>> --install option finished the rest.
>>>
>>> While building, I noticed that genkernel also incorporated some
>>> patches. It was about as easy as Debian's kernel-package; maybe even
>>> a bit easier.
>>>
>>> Anyway, after booting to the new kernel, cheese and uvcvideo worked
>>> fine. The longest part was the reboot, because all my drives hadn't
>>> been fscked in a couple hundred days (you know, those short uptimes
>>> due to Linux "crapware" that some moron trolls drool about, heh) and
>>> it took about ten minutes to check 'em all.
>>
>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
Windows I had to install a driver.
> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo you
> only put in the kernel what you *need*.
his piece of cake you know!
> I think you need a holiday.
whatever is left of it) in with a baseball bat.
Chris Ahlstrom
Oct 4, 2012, 5:54:03 PM10/4/12
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After swilling some grog, Marti Van Lin belched this bit o' wisdom:
No USB camera would have worked on my Gentoo box, until I rebuilt the
kernel with the necessary driver(s).
Module Size Used by
uvcvideo 53648 0
videodev 61081 1 uvcvideo
snd_usb_audio 79847 0
snd_usbmidi_lib 15644 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 15913 1 snd_usbmidi_lib
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 7079 1 videodev
I guess the Gentoo devs don't believe people would be running USB
webcams on their servers. :-)
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prostate? Can you use MS Visual Studio with your toes?
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kernel with the necessary driver(s).
Module Size Used by
uvcvideo 53648 0
videodev 61081 1 uvcvideo
snd_usb_audio 79847 0
snd_usbmidi_lib 15644 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 15913 1 snd_usbmidi_lib
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 7079 1 videodev
I guess the Gentoo devs don't believe people would be running USB
webcams on their servers. :-)
--
How do you ever get anything done with your tongue ticking Roy's
prostate? Can you use MS Visual Studio with your toes?
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http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/d77ec8805d2f923a?hl=en
Chris Ahlstrom
Oct 4, 2012, 5:56:18 PM10/4/12
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After swilling some grog, Gregory Shearman belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
>>> USB video module enabled.
>>
> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo you
> only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>
> I think you need a holiday.
Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
ridicule. Tsk.
And it was pretty easy to "fix".
--
>> TomB's use case is the most basic, simpleton there is. Others using HW
>> acceleration, different video modes and multiple monitors are not so
>> lucky.
> Bullshit.
> You don't need xorg.conf for any of those
You are of course wrong.
It depends if randr is supported or not for one thing.
Not to mention the OTHER devices xorg.conf supports than video.
You really are clueless arent you Peter? You do realise a lot of people
use old HW with older drivers right?
Even a cursory google shows you to be WRONG.
-- "Hadron" <illid8$uj5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have the
>>> USB video module enabled.
>>
>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>
> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
Same for Debian.
>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>
> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo you
> only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>
> I think you need a holiday.
ridicule. Tsk.
And it was pretty easy to "fix".
--
>> TomB's use case is the most basic, simpleton there is. Others using HW
>> acceleration, different video modes and multiple monitors are not so
>> lucky.
> Bullshit.
> You don't need xorg.conf for any of those
You are of course wrong.
It depends if randr is supported or not for one thing.
Not to mention the OTHER devices xorg.conf supports than video.
You really are clueless arent you Peter? You do realise a lot of people
use old HW with older drivers right?
Even a cursory google shows you to be WRONG.
-- "Hadron" <illid8$uj5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
DFS
Oct 4, 2012, 10:03:32 PM10/4/12
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Clogwog
Oct 5, 2012, 3:46:06 AM10/5/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Gregory Shearman belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>>
>> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Same for Debian.
>
>> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo
>> you only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>>
>> I think you need a holiday.
>
> Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
> ridicule. Tsk.
>
> And it was pretty easy to "fix".
>
"Gentoo Sucks, Ubuntu Doesn’t."
> After swilling some grog, Gregory Shearman belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Welcome to Linux!!!
>>> OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>>
>> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Same for Debian.
>
>> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo
>> you only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>>
>> I think you need a holiday.
>
> Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
> ridicule. Tsk.
>
> And it was pretty easy to "fix".
>
http://biodegradablegeek.com/2008/12/gentoo-sucks-ubuntu-doesnt/
Stop showing your ignorance in full colors, creepy!
Clogwog
Oct 5, 2012, 3:57:22 AM10/5/12
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You fabricate all kinds of excuses to rant Microsoft.
>
>> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>>
>> Surely you've been here long enough to understand that with Gentoo
>> you only put in the kernel what you *need*.
>
> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
> his piece of cake you know!
http://biodegradablegeek.com/2008/12/gentoo-sucks-ubuntu-doesnt/
>
>> I think you need a holiday.
>
> I think the only thing Clowgwog needs is someone to bash his brains
> (or whatever is left of it) in with a baseball bat.
>
I almost drove you mad some time ago, so you're the one with the shit for
>
> I think the only thing Clowgwog needs is someone to bash his brains
> (or whatever is left of it) in with a baseball bat.
>
brains, sMarti tart!
--
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services as a male tart since 11-05-2012 on the internet.
http://bit.ly/LGtCIb
[q]
Cheerful, friendly, independent and uncomplicated *bottom* bear.
I am looking for a hairy top, with a beard, goatee, mustache or beard
stubble.
I'm Single, so it can receive, not moving.
Married, bisexual and men who, for whatever reason-in the closet may also be
with me, no-obligation visit.
Discretion guaranteed (if desired)."
I feel good during sex:
. pipes (= give head)
. Masturbating
. fuck
Paydates: *no response* (could be "yes")
Discretion: I do not care
[q/]
chrisv
Oct 5, 2012, 8:13:57 AM10/5/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
>ridicule. Tsk.
Pathetic, idiotic trolls do that sort of thing.
>Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
>ridicule. Tsk.
Like trying to make freedom and choice into a bad thing.
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chrisv
Oct 5, 2012, 8:42:36 AM10/5/12
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Marti Van Lin wrote:
>I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>his piece of cake you know!
Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>his piece of cake you know!
quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
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Snit
Oct 5, 2012, 10:15:37 AM10/5/12
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On 10/5/12 5:13 AM, in article 3jjt689dt37e7bram...@4ax.com,
Can you quote *anyone* saying so? Anyone at all?
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15 points Foster and his farm of loonies will *always* run from... and
absolute proof they know their accusations are false.
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
>> ridicule. Tsk.
>
> Pathetic, idiotic trolls do that sort of thing.
>
> Like trying to make freedom and choice into a bad thing.
Who would say freedom and choice is a bad thing? Not I.
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Funny. Trying to turn the flexibility of Gentoo into a point of
>> ridicule. Tsk.
>
> Pathetic, idiotic trolls do that sort of thing.
>
> Like trying to make freedom and choice into a bad thing.
Can you quote *anyone* saying so? Anyone at all?
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15 points Foster and his farm of loonies will *always* run from... and
absolute proof they know their accusations are false.
Marti Van Lin
Oct 5, 2012, 10:56:44 PM10/5/12
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On 05-10-12 14:42, chrisv wrote:
> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>
>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>> his piece of cake you know!
>
> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
With Tiles8� it also needs a touch screen.
> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>
>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>> his piece of cake you know!
>
> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
chrisv
Oct 8, 2012, 8:37:01 AM10/8/12
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Marti Van Lin wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>
>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>
>With Tiles8® it also needs a touch screen.
Even on desktop PC's? You won't be able to just use a mouse?
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>
>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>
>With Tiles8® it also needs a touch screen.
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Homer
Oct 8, 2012, 3:48:21 PM10/8/12
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Verily I say unto thee that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
The alternative is the One Microsoft Way, where you don't actually get a
choice, but have to endure a bloated system stuffed with redundant
components, including drivers for non-existent hardware that steals
valuable system resources, like this:
[quote]
Memory is getting cheaper every day. This is one reason why more and
more people are equipping their PCs with 4GB RAM or more. Modern
desktops often support up to 8GB. So it happens quite often these days
that a proud owner of a new a PC wonders why Vista only reports about
3GB RAM even though he bought 4GB. I have been asked this question by
several people within the last weeks. Some of them were IT pros, so I
thought I should post something about it here. The things I say in this
post mostly apply to Windows XP as well.
In theory, a 32-bit operating system should be able to support 232 bytes
= 4GB memory. Thus the first reaction usually is that the memory chips
or with the mainboard has a hardware defect. Unfortunately, that's not
the case. Vista can indeed address 4GB of memory. However, the maximum
amount of RAM that can be used by the system and applications is 3.12
GB.
The cause for this is the so-called memory-mapped I/O (MMIO). Some
devices need a dedicated space in memory. A typical example is a video
card that utilizes the system memory. Now, you might object that your
video card has its own memory and you didn't install any additional
devices that could occupy so much RAM.
Well, for compatibility reasons Vista reserves memory for devices even
if they don't exist in your computer. That means that if you have 4GB
RAM in your computer and Vista displays only 3.12 GB available memory,
about 1GB is indeed not used by the OS. You might as well remove it.
That is quite strange, isn't it? I am not a system programmer, but for
me that seems to be a design error, probably one that is very old.
[/quote]
http://goo.gl/d9M4s
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> After swilling some grog, Gregory Shearman belched this bit o' wisdom:
>> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Welcome to Linux!!! OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>>
>> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Same for Debian.
Same for Gentoo, if you choose to include support for it.
>> On 2012-10-04, Clogwog <clo...@anon.eu> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Turned out the .config for the Gentoo kernel I'm using didn't have
>>>> the USB video module enabled.
>>>
>>> Welcome to Linux!!! OS X and Windows: plug in the webcam, done!
>>
>> Run Ubuntu and the webcam runs.. this has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Same for Debian.
The alternative is the One Microsoft Way, where you don't actually get a
choice, but have to endure a bloated system stuffed with redundant
components, including drivers for non-existent hardware that steals
valuable system resources, like this:
[quote]
Memory is getting cheaper every day. This is one reason why more and
more people are equipping their PCs with 4GB RAM or more. Modern
desktops often support up to 8GB. So it happens quite often these days
that a proud owner of a new a PC wonders why Vista only reports about
3GB RAM even though he bought 4GB. I have been asked this question by
several people within the last weeks. Some of them were IT pros, so I
thought I should post something about it here. The things I say in this
post mostly apply to Windows XP as well.
In theory, a 32-bit operating system should be able to support 232 bytes
= 4GB memory. Thus the first reaction usually is that the memory chips
or with the mainboard has a hardware defect. Unfortunately, that's not
the case. Vista can indeed address 4GB of memory. However, the maximum
amount of RAM that can be used by the system and applications is 3.12
GB.
The cause for this is the so-called memory-mapped I/O (MMIO). Some
devices need a dedicated space in memory. A typical example is a video
card that utilizes the system memory. Now, you might object that your
video card has its own memory and you didn't install any additional
devices that could occupy so much RAM.
Well, for compatibility reasons Vista reserves memory for devices even
if they don't exist in your computer. That means that if you have 4GB
RAM in your computer and Vista displays only 3.12 GB available memory,
about 1GB is indeed not used by the OS. You might as well remove it.
That is quite strange, isn't it? I am not a system programmer, but for
me that seems to be a design error, probably one that is very old.
[/quote]
http://goo.gl/d9M4s
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http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 43 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
Gordonbp
Oct 8, 2012, 5:19:26 PM10/8/12
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On 08/10/12 20:48, Homer wrote:
>
> The cause for this is the so-called memory-mapped I/O (MMIO). Some
> devices need a dedicated space in memory. A typical example is a video
> card that utilizes the system memory. Now, you might object that your
> video card has its own memory and you didn't install any additional
> devices that could occupy so much RAM.
>
> Well, for compatibility reasons Vista reserves memory for devices even
> if they don't exist in your computer. That means that if you have 4GB
> RAM in your computer and Vista displays only 3.12 GB available memory,
> about 1GB is indeed not used by the OS. You might as well remove it.
> That is quite strange, isn't it? I am not a system programmer, but for
> me that seems to be a design error, probably one that is very old.
> [/quote]
>
> http://goo.gl/d9M4s
>
Hasn't changed in Windows 7 - probably won't change in Windows 8....
>
> The cause for this is the so-called memory-mapped I/O (MMIO). Some
> devices need a dedicated space in memory. A typical example is a video
> card that utilizes the system memory. Now, you might object that your
> video card has its own memory and you didn't install any additional
> devices that could occupy so much RAM.
>
> Well, for compatibility reasons Vista reserves memory for devices even
> if they don't exist in your computer. That means that if you have 4GB
> RAM in your computer and Vista displays only 3.12 GB available memory,
> about 1GB is indeed not used by the OS. You might as well remove it.
> That is quite strange, isn't it? I am not a system programmer, but for
> me that seems to be a design error, probably one that is very old.
> [/quote]
>
> http://goo.gl/d9M4s
>
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Marti Van Lin
Oct 9, 2012, 1:38:42 AM10/9/12
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On 08-10-12 14:37, chrisv wrote:
> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>>
>>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>>
>> With Tiles8� it also needs a touch screen.
>
> Even on desktop PC's? You won't be able to just use a mouse?
You can use a mouse and keyboard, but it's pretty confusing and inefficient.
> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>>
>>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>>
>> With Tiles8� it also needs a touch screen.
>
> Even on desktop PC's? You won't be able to just use a mouse?
chrisv
Oct 9, 2012, 8:43:01 AM10/9/12
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Marti Van Lin wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>>>
>>>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>>>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>>>
>>> With Tiles8® it also needs a touch screen.
>>
>> Even on desktop PC's? You won't be able to just use a mouse?
>
>You can use a mouse and keyboard, but it's pretty confusing and inefficient.
Well then, at the risk of "Ezekiel" throwing a tantrum if it turns-out
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marti Van Lin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt the clogtroll ever tried installing Gentoo. Efficiency is not
>>>>> his piece of cake you know!
>>>>
>>>> Well, who needs efficiency? All anyone needs is Winders and a
>>>> quad-core Intel box! Even people in developing countries!
>>>
>>> With Tiles8® it also needs a touch screen.
>>
>> Even on desktop PC's? You won't be able to just use a mouse?
>
>You can use a mouse and keyboard, but it's pretty confusing and inefficient.
I'm wrong, I would have to say that it will not be a success on the
desktop.
Disclaimer: Yes, I realize that many will still get it and use it,
because of Micro$oft's ownership of the OEM sales channel.
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