Thank you for your consideration and I take your words seriously.
As far as my having done anything to HPT, if I had you better believe he
would be quoting that and not the meaningless quotes he and others have
scavenged and forged since 2004.
--
🙈🙉🙊
> You
Looks like you have forgotten you are anti-Linux troll paid
for by Appil/Micoshaft axle of evil.
So micoshaft/appil funded troll, you do realize you became
a luzer as soon as you signed yourself for employment as
an anti-Linux troll?
By any chance are you an employee of ntrepid corporation?
http://www.ntrepidcorp.com/
or perhaps an employee of Burson-Marsteller?
http://www.burson-marsteller.com/
The line managers who contracted you were sniggering to the bone
when they when they realized what kind of idiot you were
and how useful it would be to them.
They never had so much fun since hosting a tampon sharing party.
And tell me again:
Why do dishonest Amrikaaan companies like Appil and Micoshaft pay Amrikaans
to troll and post ad-hominem personal attacks on the internet?
Has anyone in these companies got a degree in honesty?
If so prove it.
If not, are you expecting to ride on the back of good faith of the
international community to not criticise amrikaas dumbest criminals posting
trolls and ad-hominen personal attacks funded by amrikkkaan companies
like micoshaft and appil? Are they above the law? I don't think so. Its
time for prosecutors to move in and arrest a few of the criminals funding
asstroturfers hiding behind dishonest corporations like appil and micoshaft
who sponsor ad hominem personal attacks and abuse in the internet
in blantant disregard for law.
A few wikileaks to open up scrutiny of the funding routes and who's who in
the chain of command could be a starting point.
Stories like this
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=173964
set a precedent which means every asstroturfer is due for a minimum
$400,000 fine.
Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------
I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610
The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.
It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management
What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.
They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.
There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes
0001- Online Persona Management Service.
50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).
1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
0004- Virtual Private Servers,
CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal
0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.
8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal
0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.
1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.
Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States
Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.b...@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Since HPT / George Hostler fantasizes about his plans to visit you at home,
I would follow John Downs's advice.
People with a Sociopathic personality disorder fantasize a lot about their
"victims", before they hit!
[q]
George Hostler in COLA:
"Yeah, I got with my group, the "Sons of Thumper". We dropped by Snit's
pad, kicked the door down. Then Snit's wife grabbed the kids and exited.
(Left in a soccer mom SUV, she invited us. Snit's been living off her
hard earned cash whilst trolling Usenet.)
*We then grabbed Snit* . Every time he whined, the big fat guy sat on Snit's
head and farted. We laughed our guts out. Snit was entertaining. Elizabot
Biker Chick dropped her chaps and pee'd on him. That made us laugh even
harder. Then Steve Carroll, who rode in on his Harley Soft-tail, told us
about Snit's history of socks, Rhino Plastee, Brock McNuggetts, Steve
Carroll's Dog, Omar Murad Asfour, etc. He had us rolling on the floor, we
laughed so hard it hurt.
(to be continued ....)"
[q/]
Just be carefull Snit!
Yes. He posts that type stuff and then wonders why his threats are so
transparent.
--
🙈🙉🙊
Like I said, I'm only going by what I have been reading
in comp.sys.mac.advocacy for the past few days but you
are correct Clogwog.
These psychos just don't appear out of nowhere. Anyone
involved in criminology will tell you that signs are
there and in many cases for years prior to the person
going postal.
The biggest problem, and this is most prevalent with
child abductions (I'm not making any accusations here,
just an example) where the parent underestimates the
potential threats.
Sadly, if you follow this stuff you will see that in
many cases the parent already was warned.
Same thing for stalkers and in particular Internet
stalkers.
When a person takes the time to collect and catalog all
types of information about his target that is a red flag
and should not be ignored.
It shows diligence and patience in stalking the prey and
is a clear sign of a true nut.
Ask any mental health professional and they will tell
you the same.
Personally I get the chills reading this stuff.
I'm glad i am not either of these people involved.
However, in the case of Snit if what he says is kosher,
I would not ignore it.
He may very well unknowingly be dealing with a
psychopath who can do some major collateral damage.
If it were me and my family, if I had one, I would
notify the authorities and submit the groups logs as
evidence.
Better safe than sorry and if it all turns out to be
moot it doesn't harm anyone.
Sadly HPT is not the most extreme of the whacko in CSMA / COLA.
Agreed.
> If it were me and my family, if I had one, I would
> notify the authorities and submit the groups logs as
> evidence.
>
> Better safe than sorry and if it all turns out to be
> moot it doesn't harm anyone.
Again: agreed.
--
🙈🙉🙊
> Like I said,
Ooopss!!! Looks like you have forgotten you are just
a circle jerking troll. Have circle, will jerk eh?
> John Downs wrote:
>
>
>> Like I said,
... your babbling snipped ...
Yawn.
I do wonder why you bother to respond when all you do is run.
--
🙈🙉🙊
> John Downs wrote:
>
>> Like I said,
>
> Ooopss!!! Looks like you have forgotten you are just
> a circle jerking troll. Have circle, will jerk eh?
It's Flounder, aka SonOfSnit, crystalbong, Karl Wojaczyk...
--
I appreciate the fact that this draft was done in haste, but some of the
sentences that you are sending out in the world to do your work for you are
loitering in taverns or asleep beside the highway.
-- Dr. Dwight Van de Vate, Professor of Philosophy,
University of Tennessee at Knoxville
> 7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> John Downs wrote:
>>
>>> Like I said,
>>
>> Ooopss!!! Looks like you have forgotten you are just
>> a circle jerking troll. Have circle, will jerk eh?
>
> It's Flounder, aka SonOfSnit, crystalbong, Karl Wojaczyk...
Staaaaaaampeeeeeeeed!!!!!
--
🙈🙉🙊
<Flatfish rubbish deleted>
Fuck off Flatty.
<PLONK>
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
>You have more than enough
*plonk*
That's pretty much all that happens in this sorry group.
One idiot following another idiot around.
Notice the complete lack of evidence to substantiate the
claim. It's either that or some meaningless header line
that they parrot and which proves absolutely nothing
other than the fact they don't have a clue how to
decipher a header.
I'm not flounder, flatfish or any other nym btw.
I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
of complete and utter assholes.
For the life of me, I can't understand why you waste
your time here snit. These fools have no interest in the
facts and reasonable arguments you present. They just
want to shout, scream and call people names and when
they can't address the topic they attack the poster.
It's actually quite sad watching them make fools of
themselves. Anyway, my advice stands and I suggest you
consider it.
> In article <CA770214.A314B%
> use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> use...@gallopinginsanity.com says...
>>
>> Chris Ahlstrom stated in post j2sb0j$9p3$1...@dont-email.me on 8/21/11 6:18 PM:
>>
>>> 7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> John Downs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Like I said,
>>>>
>>>> Ooopss!!! Looks like you have forgotten you are just
>>>> a circle jerking troll. Have circle, will jerk eh?
>>>
>>> It's Flounder, aka SonOfSnit, crystalbong, Karl Wojaczyk...
>>
>> Staaaaaaampeeeeeeeed!!!!!
>
> That's pretty much all that happens in this sorry group.
> One idiot following another idiot around.
Yes. I have had "advocates" whine that I respond with the
"Staaaaaaampeeeeeeeed!!!!!" comment to the point that it gets boring.
Well, that is sorta my point - it is boring to have them add nothing but
empty and dishonest feigned support for each others' lies. I even list some
of the lies they feign support for:
* RonB claims I am against choice but cannot quote where I say I am.
* HPT says I forge videos and screenshots but cannot show this
* Peter claims I tell lies but cannot quote any
* Chris A. claims I say software is useless unless it is like
Mac/Win software but cannot quote me saying so
* chrisv claims I tell lies but cannot quote any
And I left out Roy's recent lie about my judging KDE just on screenshots and
videos. That was a whacky one... and I am sure there are dozens more.
> Notice the complete lack of evidence to substantiate the
> claim. It's either that or some meaningless header line
> that they parrot and which proves absolutely nothing
> other than the fact they don't have a clue how to
> decipher a header.
> I'm not flounder, flatfish or any other nym btw.
This is the hallmark of the herd... they make accusations and back each
other and have *no* evidence. That whacky thing is how they get followers,
such as HPT, who just beg to be accepted by them.
> I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
> discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
> of complete and utter assholes.
> For the life of me, I can't understand why you waste
> your time here snit. These fools have no interest in the
> facts and reasonable arguments you present. They just
> want to shout, scream and call people names and when
> they can't address the topic they attack the poster.
> It's actually quite sad watching them make fools of
> themselves. Anyway, my advice stands and I suggest you
> consider it.
While I do learn about Linux here - and educate others - I am here largely
to study the psychology of people.
--
🙈🙉🙊
> I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
> discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
> of complete and utter assholes.
Yeah, you just come here to suggest that one poster start a police
investigation against another one, Flounder.
--
Nietzsche says that we will live the same life, over and over again.
God -- I'll have to sit through the Ice Capades again.
-- Woody Allen, "Hannah and Her Sisters"
> John Downs wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
>> discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
>> of complete and utter assholes.
>
> Yeah, you just come here to suggest that one poster start a police
> investigation against another one, Flounder.
And what is your problem with this? HPT has been not only trolling me
*excessively* for years, he has - as has been quoted - been making obvious
threats.
But he is a lapdog to the herd, so you will never acknowledge this.
--
🙈🙉🙊
Police investigation?
What are you talking about?
I did no such thing. I suggested that Snit document the
threats made against him because he may be dealing with
an unstable person and his personal safety may be
compromised. If you have a problem with that, too bad.
You really should direct your attention to the person
making the threats but you won't because he is
supposedly a Linux supporter. You're a real piece of
crap Chris, you really are.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Chris is unstable
as well. He certainly seems to have an obsession with
following the herd. I don't recall ever seeing so many
kooks all in once place before. I'd love to ask Linus or
Shuttleworth what they think about the sewer scum in
COLA that passes for Linux supporters. They are an
embarrassment to honest Linux advocacy.
Right: the fact you note and *document* the threats HPT has made leads Chris
A. to say *you* are wrong... not HPT.
It is completely insane and backwards. But HPT sucks up to the herd... he
is their lapdog, so in their mind he can do no wrong.
--
🙈🙉🙊
On 08/22/2011 06:57 PM, Snit wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom stated in post j2ttu0$q8s$1...@dont-email.me on 8/22/11 8:47 AM:
>
>> John Downs wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
>>> discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
>>> of complete and utter assholes.
>>
>> Yeah, you just come here to suggest that one poster start a police
>> investigation against another one, Flounder.
>
> And what is your problem with this? HPT has been not only trolling me
> *excessively* for years, he has - as has been quoted - been making obvious
> threats.
Well in life you quite often get what you deserve. I don't remember the
quote in English from Bible now. You are a pain and very heavily biased
to Apple. You try to say you are not against FOSS but after reading too
many of your posts it is quite obvious. You love to call us Linux people
with negative words like herd and cult. Linux movement and it's people
are not either, they just want to replace horrible piece of shit called
Windows with something that works and gives people control again.
I would not cry one bit if someone gave your a lesson. That's a way to
learn you know. I have been given many such lessons during my life and I
must say it is the most effective way to learn...
>
> But he is a lapdog to the herd, so you will never acknowledge this.
How about you writing something advocative about Linux instead being a
paid Apple troll. This is comp.os.linux.advocacy you know. The Mac
advocacy group is out there somewhere - you would probably be very
welcomed in that herd - we won't miss you.
--
Kari Laine
PICs, Displays,Relays - USB-SPI-I2C http://www.byvac.com
USB and FPGA boards http://www.ztex.de
I am just a happy customer
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Linus has said this:
-----
There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
-----
I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same
time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease.
-----
While I doubt he specifically was referring to COLA, it is clear this would
include most of the "advocates" and their approach toward "advocacy".
--
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> On 08/22/2011 06:57 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom stated in post j2ttu0$q8s$1...@dont-email.me on 8/22/11 8:47 AM:
>>
>>> John Downs wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> I rarely post anymore because it's pointless trying to
>>>> discuss Linux or anything for that matter with a bunch
>>>> of complete and utter assholes.
>>>
>>> Yeah, you just come here to suggest that one poster start a police
>>> investigation against another one, Flounder.
>>
>> And what is your problem with this? HPT has been not only trolling me
>> *excessively* for years, he has - as has been quoted - been making obvious
>> threats.
> Well in life you quite often get what you deserve.
Ah, and here comes your BS claiming I deserve to be lied about and
threatened and whatnot.
Utter BS. Why not just speak out against those who lie... instead of
blaming those who are lied about? I suspect even you know your actions here
are wrong - so what are you afraid of to just admit to the truth?
> I don't remember the quote in English from Bible now. You are a pain and very
> heavily biased to Apple.
First, let us assume I really have the bias you say - even though you offer
*no* support. So what? That is not even slightly related to the topic. It
is not as if someone is merely saying I am wrong in my views... HPT is
acting aggressively and dangerously, as has been noted and quoted.
But, of course, that assumption of yours is not supported anyway.
> You try to say you are not against FOSS but after reading too many of your
> posts it is quite obvious.
Again: I am not... but even if I was, so what? That is not even slightly
related to the topic of HPT's actions.
> You love to call us Linux people with negative words like herd and cult.
What are "Linux people"? I refer to the Linux herd as a herd, and I present
evidence and facts to back that up. For example, none of the herd will ever
question the following unsupported claims:
* RonB claims I am against choice but cannot quote where I say I am.
* HPT says I forge videos and screenshots but cannot show this
* Peter claims I tell lies but cannot quote any
* Chris A. claims I say software is useless unless it is like
Mac/Win software but cannot quote me saying so
* chrisv claims I tell lies but cannot quote any
* Roy Schestowitz claiming I base my views of KDE on screenshots
and/or videos.
This is not about preferences or biases... this is about simple facts.
Well, "this" is really a side issue - the real issue here is HPT's actions.
And you are not willing to speak out against them. Quite telling how you
work so hard to change the topic, even going so far as to make all sorts of
accusations and insults you cannot back up, and never getting back to the
actual topic of HPT and his actions.
Why is that? What are you afraid of?
> Linux movement and it's people are not either, they just want to replace
> horrible piece of shit called Windows with something that works and gives
> people control again.
And here you are twisting my words. I have never said that people who
prefer Linux on their desktop are a "herd". Never said they share any form
of group-think nor called them a cult. Never. Not once.
But that is your claim. Do you see now why it is incorrect?
> I would not cry one bit if someone gave your a lesson. That's a way to learn
> you know. I have been given many such lessons during my life and I must say it
> is the most effective way to learn...
If you think I am wrong about something then by all means correct it. But
the herd does not do that. They cannot - for they have no faith in their
actual claims.
>> But he is a lapdog to the herd, so you will never acknowledge this.
> How about you writing something advocative about Linux instead being a
> paid Apple troll.
Apple has nothing to do with HPT's actions. Why do you work to change the
topic to HPT?
As far as writing positive things about Linux - who says I do not?
> This is comp.os.linux.advocacy you know. The Mac
> advocacy group is out there somewhere - you would probably be very
> welcomed in that herd - we won't miss you.
What herd? In any case, funny how you never once noted how repulsive HPT's
actions are - and that is the focus of this thread.
Why your obsession with Apple?
--
🙈🙉🙊
>
Whatever.
Poor baby :(
Did I hurt your feelings?
Good.
Note to Snit: See how the herd performs as predicted?
Chris now has his head firmly buried up another herd
member's ass so he doesn't have to face the truth about
his claims. The only question now is which herd member's
ass is now the proud recipient of Chris's head?
Someone please tickle Chris's feet so we can see who
laughs.
They act as a herd then deny they are one.
No matter how many examples are shown.
--
🙈🙉🙊
<major dishonest snipping>
Hallo Mr. Fish, Flat.
--
We should start referring to processes which run in the background by
their correct technical name... paenguins.
~ Kevin M. Bealer
Stampeeeeeeeeeeeeede!
btw you are incorrect but guesses are 3 for a quarter so
you can buy some more.
Finally! A correct elongation of stampede.
--
"I don't know the difference between opinion and fact." - Snit
Why don't you go and ask then. They are probably too busy to answer but
I certainly would be interested about the possible answer :-)
--
Kari Laine
PICs, Displays,Relays - USB-SPI-I2C http://www.byvac.com
USB and FPGA boards http://www.ztex.de
I am just a happy customer
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> On 08/22/2011 07:11 PM, John Downs wrote:
>
> Why don't you go and ask then. They are probably too busy to answer but
> I certainly would be interested about the possible answer :-)
Quit feeding trolls.
--
No pig should go sky diving during monsoon
For this isn't really the norm.
But should a fat swine try to soar like a loon,
So what? Any pork in a storm.
No pig should go sky diving during monsoon,
It's risky enough when the weather is fine.
But to have a pig soar when the monsoon doth roar
Cast even more perils before swine.
> Kari Laine wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
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>> On 08/22/2011 07:11 PM, John Downs wrote:
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>> Why don't you go and ask then. They are probably too busy to answer but
>> I certainly would be interested about the possible answer :-)
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> Quit feeding trolls.
See: the herd discourages others from getting the info they cannot handle.
They not only KF people, they put pressure on others to do the same.
In this way they are very much like a cult.
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