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 More options Sep 2 2004, 9:50 pm
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Linønut <linøn...@bone.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:50:04 -0500
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
Error BR-549: MS DRM 1.0 rejects the following post from Saeed Bushoo:

> In another thread concerning hardware support for Linux, "Do you have
> to buy specific hardware for Linux", the poster asks a question
> concerning Dual Head support for a Matrox P650.

> You responded saying that it works "out of the box".

> And for all the others that side stepped the original post, the board
> is a Matrox P650.
> The Linux system is Suse 9.1 out of the box.

> So for all of you that have been saying "dual head works with Linux"
> please be SPECIFIC as far as model is concerned or don't waste our
> time and make yourself look like a fool.

Dual head works with any two or more PCI graphics cards that are supported by
Linux.

These sites indicate that Linux is one of the supported OS's for the P650,
though the Matrox site does not:

http://computing.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/ps_508827/111601.html
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?MAT-P6564D
http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/itemdesc2.cfm?type=p&itmID=1191663&ItmS...
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-106-153&...

This article indicates it runs, though with display artifacts, using a 8-month
old driver:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=4120493&forum_...

This guy has nothing nice to say about Matrox:

http://andrew.hanenkamp.com/index.cgi/2004/08/04

   "Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to do this again. Everyone, if you use
   Linux and want to use dual monitors, do not purchase a Matrox card. Matrox's
   idea of a Linux driver is to take the contents of a dirty toilet and proceed
   to build code from those contents. A disgusting image, but I don't want
   anyone to doubt the sincerity or strength of my conviction that Matrox and
   dual-head Linux do not belong in the same document---and yet, here they are.
   My particular experience is with the Matrox P650, don't do it. If you want a
   headache, there are lots of ways to get one that are much more fun in the
   meantime.

   Anyway, I highly recommend NVidia or ATI if you want to do Linux and a
   dual-head display."

This guy laughs at the puniness of this graphics card:

http://www.micromart.co.uk/content/reviews/default.asp?Category=artic...

   "With only 64MB of dedicated RAM and 3D capabilities that would make a
   similarly priced nVidia card laugh until its lungs bleed, the Parhelia-LX
   based Matrox P650 appears expensive. When it comes to pure pixel-pushing
   power the Matrox P650 wouldn't even frighten a Playstation, but it is not to
   the geeky gamer that this card is marketed."

I like this one:

http://www.darksmile.net/hardware.html

   "Windows Based Systems

       maximus - SuperMicro P3TDDE Dual 1.2GHz, 1GB Memory. 250GB total disk
       space. Matrox P650 Dual head Video Card. This is my main system for
       MPLAB programming, and simulation/Engineering programs. It runs ok, but
       with WIN2K, I have to reboot often."

Sounds to me like this card is a bit of a dog, and everyone but Matrox is
reluctant to support it, and they did a half-assed job.  A self-fulfilling
prophecy of failure.

> COCK

Wear it with pride.  It may well be all the brain you've got.

--
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