[News] Gates Fundation [sic] Tries to Push GNU/Linux Out of OLPC
Roy Schestowitz
,----[ Quote ]
| One Laptop Per Child Project (OLPC) and Microsoft are developing a dual-boot
| system to put both Linux and Windows on laptops.
|
| "We are working with them [Microsoft developers] very closely to make a
| dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up. The
| version that's up and running of Windows on the XO is very fast, it's very,
| very successful. We're working very hard to do both," said Nicholas
| Negroponte, chairman of OLPC.
`----
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
Maybe they can also repeat those briberies, just as they did in Nigeria? What
did Gates say about OLPC just days ago? Didn't he mock it just a while ago
too?
Related:
Lessons from Africa: How to Kill Your Own FUD
,----[ Quote ]
| So, even as Microsoft claims superior quality over Linux, they act as if they
| don't even buy their own FUD. If they really believed that Windows was
| superior to Linux, they wouldn't have to bribe people with “marketing help”
| to get them to choose Windows.
`----
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-11-09-030-26-OP-MD-MS
[Mandriva CEO:] An open letter to Steve Ballmer
,----[ Quote ]
| Wow! I’m impressed, Steve! What have you done for these guys to change their
| mind like this? It’s pretty clear to me, and it will be clear to everyone.
| How do you call what you just did Steve, in the place where you live? In my
| place, they give it various names, I’m sure you know them.
|
| Hey Steve, how do you feel looking at yourself in the mirror in the morning?
|
| Of course, I will keep fighting this one and the next one, and the next one.
| You have the money, the power, and maybe we have a different sense of ethics
| you and I, but I believe that hard work, good technology and ethics can win
| too.
`----
http://blog.mandriva.com/2007/10/31/an-open-letter-to-steve-ballmer/
Poor Kids' Laptop Cranks Up
,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates earlier this year told the Microsoft
| Government Leaders Forum, "Geez, get a decent computer where you can
| actually read the text and you?re not sitting there cranking the thing
| while you're trying to type" (see Bill Gates Mocks $100 Laptop).
`----
http://www.redherring.com/article.aspx?a=17302
Governments Must Reject Gates' $3 Bid to Addict Next Billion PC Users
,----[ Quote ]
| Specifically, Bill Gates, citing China as an example, said:
|
| "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but
| people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though.
| As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours.
| They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to
| collect sometime in the next decade."[1]
`----
http://www.cybersource.com.au/press/gates_set_to_addict_next_billion.html
Spying the Gates Foundation: Diversified Holdings Stay Ahead of Market Weakness
,----[ Quote ]
| The foundation made moves in other sectors during Q3, as well, adding shares
| in Caterpillar and Canadian National Railway, while maintaining stakes in
| energy giants Exxon Mobil and BP.
`---- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://biz.yahoo.com/indie/071126/1004_id.html?.v=1
Dark cloud over good works of Gates Found
Gates Foundation Revokes Pledge to Review Portfolio
,----[ Quote ]
| ...the Gates Foundation took down their public statement on this
| and replaced it with a significantly altered version which seems to
| say that investing responsibly would just be too complex for them
| and that they need to focus on their core mission: 'There are
| dozens of factors that could be considered, almost all of which
| are outside the foundation's areas of expertise. The issues
| involved are quite complex...
`----
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/12/1756212&from=rss
Microsoft selling hobbled software to poor countries
,----[ Quote ]
| Surprisingly, no-one seems to have told Microsoft that it is not good
| marketing strategy to treat your customers as if they are stupid. Which
| is exactly what the company is doing with the release in Africa of the
| stripped-down operating system it calls Windows XP Starter Edition.
|
| Microsoft South Africa launched Windows XP Starter Edition (XPSE) into
| the African market last week with very little fanfare and market hype.
|
| Which is not surprising considering how the product was received by other
| media on its intial launch in 2004. Known for its straight talking, The
| Register labelled XPSE "crippleware". Analysts Gartner said the product
| had "good intent, poor execution".
`----
http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=983
Intel: doing the dirty on OLPC
,----[ Quote ]
| Intel’s agreement with the OLPC Foundation included a ‘non disparagement’
| clause, under which Intel and One Laptop promised not to criticize each
| other, according to Nicholas Negroponte in the latest article in the Wall
| Street Journal.
|
| Still Intel tactics have violated that repeatedly to kill OLPC efforts in
| Nigeria, Libya, Pakistan, India, China and Intel is also still trying to pull
| those tactics in Mexico, Brazil.
| This is simply disgracefull of Intel, scandalous.
|
| But Negroponte has signed an agreement saying that he is not allowed to
| criticize Intel, so he is not allowed to talk about these shameless tactics
| even though Intel is the one violating the agreement.
|
| So only independant voices on the Internet can get those messages of truth
| out about Intels tactics.
|
| In Nigeria, Intel came and donated 3000 laptops to counter OLPC efforts, then
| sells 17 thousand Classmates to Nigeria at a loss.
|
| Then Microsoft corrupted Nigerian officials with 400 thousand dollars to
| install Windows XP on those instead of Mandriva Linux.
`----
Mark Kent
> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| One Laptop Per Child Project (OLPC) and Microsoft are developing a dual-boot
>| system to put both Linux and Windows on laptops.
>|
>| "We are working with them [Microsoft developers] very closely to make a
>| dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up. The
>| version that's up and running of Windows on the XO is very fast, it's very,
>| very successful. We're working very hard to do both," said Nicholas
>| Negroponte, chairman of OLPC.
> `----
>
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
>
> Maybe they can also repeat those briberies, just as they did in Nigeria? What
> did Gates say about OLPC just days ago? Didn't he mock it just a while ago
> too?
>
Oh Gawd, did Mr Negroponte learn nothing from his experience with Intel?
Microsoft kills /everything/ it does deals with.
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Linonut
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:
>> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| One Laptop Per Child Project (OLPC) and Microsoft are developing a dual-boot
>>| system to put both Linux and Windows on laptops.
>>|
>>| "We are working with them [Microsoft developers] very closely to make a
>>| dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up. The
>>| version that's up and running of Windows on the XO is very fast, it's very,
>>| very successful. We're working very hard to do both," said Nicholas
>>| Negroponte, chairman of OLPC.
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
>>
>> Maybe they can also repeat those briberies, just as they did in Nigeria? What
>> did Gates say about OLPC just days ago? Didn't he mock it just a while ago
>> too?
>
> Oh Gawd, did Mr Negroponte learn nothing from his experience with Intel?
> Microsoft kills /everything/ it does deals with.
I wonder which OS will be the default.
And will an update to it overwrite the MBR?
<wry grin>
--
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Roy Schestowitz
Microsoft is good at approaching weak targets in need for money (think Novell).
I'm worried about OLPC. And don't forget that OLPC has received a lot of free
publicity.
Always remember that Gates mocked OLPC (even recently). Also this:
"Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but people
don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though. As long as
they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of
addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the
next decade."
http://www.cybersource.com.au/press/gates_set_to_addict_next_billion.html
Yes, that's real philanthropy.
Remember these words:
"...we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade."
--Bill Gates
To Microsoft, poor children will always be just customers.
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
Nothing in there backs your headline, which was "[News] Gates Fundation
[sic] Tries to Push GNU/Linux Out of OLPC".
Do you just assume no one will actually read the articles, so you can
get away with misrepresenting them in the headline?
--
--Tim Smith
Roy Schestowitz
The one who is /modifying/ headlines to get past filter is /YOU/. The headline
is correct. Bill Gates uses his accounting proxy, also known as the Gates
Foundation (it's a funds for personal purposes like tax evasion, buying Bill a
positive image in the press, buying media companies for bias, and increasing
profits through oil companies that kill children, etc.), will try to kick in
and 'save the day' for OLPC... with Windows. Never mind if Microsoft
sabotaged 'older days' OLPC and potentially went as far as lawsuits by proxy.
Microsoft is a criminal organisation. Its record from the past month alone
makes this a correct and accurate assessment.
How much does Microsoft pay you (directly or indirectly) to post your garbage.
Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
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Tim Smith
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> How much does Microsoft pay you (directly or indirectly) to post your garbage.
> Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
Hahahaha. I shouldn't read usenet while eating dinner. Laughing
hysterically while eating is dangerous--you almost killed me with that
last line.
--
--Tim Smith
Erik Funkenbusch
> ____/ Tim Smith on Friday 11 January 2008 01:18 : \____
>
>> In article <1623395.I...@schestowitz.com>,
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
>> ...
>>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
>>
>> Nothing in there backs your headline, which was "[News] Gates Fundation
>> [sic] Tries to Push GNU/Linux Out of OLPC".
>>
>> Do you just assume no one will actually read the articles, so you can
>> get away with misrepresenting them in the headline?
>
> The one who is /modifying/ headlines to get past filter is /YOU/. The headline
> is correct. Bill Gates uses his accounting proxy, also known as the Gates
> Foundation (it's a funds for personal purposes like tax evasion, buying Bill a
> positive image in the press, buying media companies for bias, and increasing
> profits through oil companies that kill children, etc.), will try to kick in
> and 'save the day' for OLPC... with Windows. Never mind if Microsoft
> sabotaged 'older days' OLPC and potentially went as far as lawsuits by proxy.
>
> Microsoft is a criminal organisation. Its record from the past month alone
> makes this a correct and accurate assessment.
>
> How much does Microsoft pay you (directly or indirectly) to post your garbage.
> Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
Oh, Please STFU Roy.
Are you really becoming that unhinged and that paranoid?
"Oh, Mr Policeman, there's a man following me around on the internet
pointing out to everyone that i'm lieing and being dishonest".
Watch them laugh you out the door.
For the record. *NOTHING* in the articles you referenced even includes a
mention of the Gates Foundation OTHER THAN YOUR HEADLINE.
What's more, Microsoft has today denied that they're doing any work with
the OLPC project to create multi-boot systems, so even THAT part of the
article is false, which makes your speculation about the motives of
Microsoft for doing this thing they're not even doing completely bogus.
http://www.betanews.com/article/No_dualboot_OLPC_is_in_the_works_says_Microsoft/1199985722
Here's a hint for you Roy:
If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
such.
Ramon F Herrera
wrote:
> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>
> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
> such.
Here's a hint for you, Erik. When you *pay* Roy as you pay for the
NYT, CNN, etc. then and only then you can make demands on him. When
you *elect* Roy just like we elected Bush, etc. then and only then you
can make demands on him.
Why is it that you Windopes have such a hard time understanding the
nature of Usenet?
-Ramon
Ramon F Herrera
wrote:
> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | One Laptop Per Child Project (OLPC) and Microsoft are developing a dual-boot
> | system to put both Linux and Windows on laptops.
> |
> | "We are working with them [Microsoft developers] very closely to make a
> | dual-boot system so that, like on an Apple, you can boot either one up. The
> | version that's up and running of Windows on the XO is very fast, it's very,
> | very successful. We're working very hard to do both," said Nicholas
> | Negroponte, chairman of OLPC.
> `----
>
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
>
> Maybe they can also repeat those briberies, just as they did in Nigeria? What
> did Gates say about OLPC just days ago? Didn't he mock it just a while ago
> too?
>
> Related:
>
> Lessons from Africa: How to Kill Your Own FUD
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | So, even as Microsoft claims superior quality over Linux, they act as if they
> | don't even buy their own FUD. If they really believed that Windows was
> | superior to Linux, they wouldn't have to bribe people with "marketing help"
> | to get them to choose Windows.
> `----
>
>
> Spying the Gates Foundation: Diversified Holdings Stay Ahead of Market Weakness
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | The foundation made moves in other sectors during Q3, as well, adding shares
> | in Caterpillar and Canadian National Railway, while maintaining stakes in
> | energy giants Exxon Mobil and BP.
> `---- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/indie/071126/1004_id.html?.v=1
>
> Dark cloud over good works of Gates Found
>
Here's the scoop, according the Microsoft. They pretty much called
Negroponte a liar.
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9848512-37.html
-Ramon
SW
>
> How much does Microsoft pay you (directly or indirectly) to post your garbage.
> Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
FFS take your meds Shazzlewitz.
Hadron
Is this the same Roy who once threatened to castrate someone who
disagreed with him?
FWIW I disagree with *anyone* who takes the COLA game out of
court. Stalking, and personal harassment is simply not on which ever
side of the fence (or whichever side others think you are on) you might
be.
Grow up people. Take it on the chin.
Hadron
The real advocates (I'm not even sure who they are even more) need to
reign him in. He's losing it.
Hadron
Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
here.
When you have a clue, come back and throw your dice again on the COLA
board.
Hint : It's Roybot complaining about people having a "Free" chance to
argue against his ridiculous crusade.
Roy Schestowitz does more harm for Linux "advocacy" than Mark Kent. And
that is saying something
Erik Funkenbusch
I'm not asking him to do what he does. But damnit, if he's going to do it,
he should at least *TRY* to be factual, ethical, and accurate. Otherwise,
he's not an "advocate" of any kind, he's a nuisance.
He's the one that calls what he spouts "news". He's the one that calls
himself a journalist. If he wants to write opinion columns, fine by me.
He can say whatever he wants, but disguising his speculation as "news" is
nothing close to ethical.
Peter Köhlmann
> Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> writes:
>
>> On Jan 10, 11:39 pm, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>>>
>>> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
>>> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
>>> such.
>>
>> Here's a hint for you, Erik. When you *pay* Roy as you pay for the
>> NYT, CNN, etc. then and only then you can make demands on him. When
>> you *elect* Roy just like we elected Bush, etc. then and only then you
>> can make demands on him.
>>
>> Why is it that you Windopes have such a hard time understanding the
>> nature of Usenet?
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
> here.
>
Idiot
--
Just out of curiosity does this actually mean something or have some
of the few remaining bits of your brain just evaporated?
Roy Schestowitz
> Here's the scoop, according the Microsoft. They pretty much called
> Negroponte a liar.
>
> http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9848512-37.html
Nick is suffering from a smear campaign at the moment. They try to rob him from
credibility because he tells the truth. Mind you, CNET is owned by Microsoft's
co-founder, Paul Allen. Don't expect the most objective assessment over there.
I've seen how articles get watered down when Microsoft is mentioned in negative
context. I write for Datamation sometimes and I saw this for myself when
paragraphs didn't make it past the 'filter'.
Knock on wood for net neutrality. (Trusted) Blogs will hopefully be our future.
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Hadron
Negroponte is a little like Roy.
Amazed no one listens to him or wants his views or his ill fated
PC. Throws a hissy fit and blames everyone except himself for failure.
He could even be related. All the usual zealot symptoms are there.
chrisv
>Ethically,
Oh, goody. An ethics lesson from the FUDmeister.
Guffaw.
chrisv
>>
>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
>> here.
Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
Linonut
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:33:06 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>> CES: OLPC, Microsoft build dual-boot Windows, Linux OS
>>> ...
>>>> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=11786
>>>
>>> Nothing in there backs your headline, which was "[News] Gates Fundation
>>> [sic] Tries to Push GNU/Linux Out of OLPC".
>>
>> How much does Microsoft pay you (directly or indirectly) to post your garbage.
>> Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
>
> Oh, Please STFU Roy.
>
> Are you really becoming that unhinged and that paranoid?
>
> What's more, Microsoft has today denied that they're doing any work with
> the OLPC project to create multi-boot systems, so even THAT part of the
> article is false, which makes your speculation about the motives of
> Microsoft for doing this thing they're not even doing completely bogus.
>
> http://www.betanews.com/article/No_dualboot_OLPC_is_in_the_works_says_Microsoft/1199985722
Wow, it's even worse, then!
Is Microsoft working on building a laptop for the OLPC (One Laptop
Per Child) program? Yes, but the intended machine will run
Windows XP only, rather than both Windows XP and Linux, Microsoft
officials said today, refuting an earlier report that made the waves
on Slashdot.
I wonder how much Microsoft will dump a (crippled?) version of XP for
/this/ time? And apparently Microsoft is having trouble shoving their
bloatware onto the XO:
Also in December, CNET blogger Ina Fried quoted James Utzschneider,
the general manager of Microsoft's emerging market unit, as saying
that although about 40 Microsoft employees and contractors are
working on Microsoft's effort to put Windows XP on the XO laptop, the
company still isn't sure that it will be able to overcome the
technical hurdles.
40 employees and contractors? I wonder how many people Negroponte
employed?
The main barrier is that the XO has only 1 GB of built-in memory and
no hard drive, Utzschneider reportedly said. Accordingly, Microsoft
has been exploring the idea of building Windows and Office on a 2 GB
add-in card, but this would require writing new BIOS software for
booting directly from the SD card.
And, of course, we /have/ to have the usual PR persiflage:
In the written announcement issued on December 5, Microsoft said it
plans to publish formal guidelines early in 2008 that will help
flash-based device makers design machines enable "a high-quality
Windows experience."
I suppose that means that Windows XP will indeed boot.
> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>
> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
> such.
Don't be silly, Erik. This is COLA. If we believed uncritically
everything that was read here, we'd even believe /you/! <evil grin>
Linonut
> Here's the scoop, according the Microsoft. They pretty much called
> Negroponte a liar.
>
> http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9848512-37.html
It sounds to me like Microsoft. Get into negotiations and float an
idea, then change their minds (it is their right). In the meantime,
their definition of words differs from that of their negotiating
partner. And Microsoft can use the confusion to tar the other guy, by
implication:
However, Microsoft hinted that in the future, Negroponte might not be
the best spokesman for anything about the XO related to the software
giant. When it comes to the progress of the Windows-based XO,
"Microsoft recommends contacting the company directly for any further
updates," it said in a statement.
In any case, I sure hope that OLPC charges MS a license fee to place
their OS on the OLPC.
Erik Funkenbusch
>> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>>
>> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
>> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
>> such.
>
> Don't be silly, Erik. This is COLA. If we believed uncritically
> everything that was read here, we'd even believe /you/! <evil grin>
You don't see me claiming my comments are "news", do you? If he's not
reporting the news, that makes his comments even more spam, don't you
think?
Peter Köhlmann
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:44:04 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>
>>> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>>>
>>> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
>>> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
>>> such.
>>
>> Don't be silly, Erik. This is COLA. If we believed uncritically
>> everything that was read here, we'd even believe /you/! <evil grin>
>
> You don't see me claiming my comments are "news", do you?
Why should he? Your "comments" are best described as "lies"
> If he's not reporting the news, that makes his comments even more spam,
> don't you think?
You already mentioned one possibility: *IF*
And no, the spamming here is done by the wintroll filth. Of which you are
part
--
You're not my type. For that matter, you're not even my species
Roy Schestowitz
What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's objectionable.
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Roy Schestowitz
Erik must have missed the news in one of the sources I cited before. The Gates
Foundation was mentioned as a funder. If Erik and his supervisor at the Vole
disagree with this, they ought to contact the publication (PC Advisor, IIRC).
I look at the original subject line and it's correct. The accusation against me
is incorrect because Microsoft wants not dual-boot, but WINDOWS-ONLY. That's
based on this morning's news...
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Linonut
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:44:04 -0500, Linonut wrote:
Not in the least. A newbie might make that mistake, for a few minutes,
but we all know that they are articles collected by Roy with his
agenda in mind, with hurried headlines that let you know what /he's/
thinking the article might mean.
chrisv
Nah... I think we should hold Roy to the same standards as, say,
Walter Cronkite.
(rolling eyes)
Tim Smith
Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
> > Mind you, if you stalking does not stop, I will contact the police.
>
> Oh, Please STFU Roy.
>
> Are you really becoming that unhinged and that paranoid?
I think it is time to bring this up at the next CFR meeting. He's on to
the Bilderbergers and the Freemasons, so probably soon will spot the CFR
connection.
--
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Tim Smith
<c68384a9-888f-4cdc...@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>,
Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> Here's a hint for you, Erik. When you *pay* Roy as you pay for the
> NYT, CNN, etc. then and only then you can make demands on him. When
> you *elect* Roy just like we elected Bush, etc. then and only then you
> can make demands on him.
So you contention would be that as long as someone is not being paid and
is not elected, purposeful lying is OK? Interesting ethical system.
--
--Tim Smith
chrisv
>So you contention would be that as long as someone is not being paid and
>is not elected, purposeful lying is OK?
Has it been established that they are "purposeful lies" and not
"errors"?
Cletus Spencer
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:v1ofo31h2qop9gbfk...@4ax.com...
Whenever Roy Schestowitz is concerned I certainly wouldn't rule out basic
STUPIDITY.
After all, the paid shill Schestowitz has claimed that a BIOS keyboard error
is some sort of fault in Vista.
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>"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:v1ofo31h2qop9gbfk...@4ax.com...
>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>So you contention would be that as long as someone is not being paid and
>>>is not elected, purposeful lying is OK?
>>
>> Has it been established that they are "purposeful lies" and not
>> "errors"?
>Whenever Roy Schestowitz is concerned I certainly wouldn't rule out basic
>STUPIDITY.
>After all, the paid shill Schestowitz has claimed that a BIOS keyboard error
>is some sort of fault in Vista.
<plonk>
Jim Richardson
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Or Dan Rather, or the NYT. :)
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William Poaster
> ____/ chrisv on Friday 11 January 2008 14:00 : \____
>
>>>Quack snotted:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
>>>> here.
>>
>> Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
>
> What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's
> objectionable.
I thought Quack had degree in bullshit....
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> On Jan 10, 11:39 pm, Erik Funkenbusch <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
>
> > Here's a hint for you Roy:
>
> > If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
> > own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
> > such.
>
> NYT, CNN, etc. then and only then you can make demands on him. When
> you *elect* Roy just like we elected Bush, etc. then and only then you
> can make demands on him.
Hint for you. Your logic is stupid.
> Why is it that you Windopes have such a hard time understanding the
> nature of Usenet?
Why is it that you lintards have such a hard time understanding
honesty and ethics?
> -Ramon
Peter Köhlmann
< snip >
> Why is it that you lintards have such a hard time understanding
> honesty and ethics?
>
With you as a prime example. Name stealing and that
Mark Kent
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ chrisv on Friday 11 January 2008 14:00 : \____
>>
>>>>Quack snotted:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
>>>>> here.
>>>
>>> Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
>>
>> What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's
>> objectionable.
>
> I thought Quack had degree in bullshit....
>
Nah, he failed - wasn't good enough...
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Moshe Goldfarb
> William Poaster <w...@pclos2007.eu> espoused:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> ____/ chrisv on Friday 11 January 2008 14:00 : \____
>>>
>>>>>Quack snotted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening people
>>>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
>>>
>>> What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's
>>> objectionable.
>>
>> I thought Quack had degree in bullshit....
>>
>
> Nah, he failed - wasn't good enough...
Why does an nmap show you and Roy Schestowitz posting from the same exact
computer?
Mark Kent
> ____/ Erik Funkenbusch on Friday 11 January 2008 15:50 : \____
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:44:04 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>>
>>>> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>>>>
>>>> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
>>>> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
>>>> such.
>>>
>>> Don't be silly, Erik. This is COLA. If we believed uncritically
>>> everything that was read here, we'd even believe /you/! <evil grin>
>>
>> You don't see me claiming my comments are "news", do you? If he's not
>> reporting the news, that makes his comments even more spam, don't you
>> think?
>
> Erik must have missed the news in one of the sources I cited before. The Gates
> Foundation was mentioned as a funder. If Erik and his supervisor at the Vole
> disagree with this, they ought to contact the publication (PC Advisor, IIRC).
>
> I look at the original subject line and it's correct. The accusation against me
> is incorrect because Microsoft wants not dual-boot, but WINDOWS-ONLY. That's
> based on this morning's news...
>
Roy - why are you expecting Erik to be honest? He's never shown any
signs of being in any way reliable.
Jim Richardson
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It doesn't. nmap doesn't tell you where someone is posting from. You are
simply lying. Or perhaps woefully incompetant.
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William Poaster
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> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:34:31 -0500,
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>
>>> William Poaster <w...@pclos2007.eu> espoused:
>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ____/ chrisv on Friday 11 January 2008 14:00 : \____
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Quack snotted:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening
>>>>>>>> people here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
>>>>>
>>>>> What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's
>>>>> objectionable.
>>>>
>>>> I thought Quack had degree in bullshit....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nah, he failed - wasn't good enough...
>>
>> Why does an nmap show you and Roy Schestowitz posting from the same exact
>> computer?
>
>
> It doesn't. nmap doesn't tell you where someone is posting from. You are
> simply lying. Or perhaps woefully incompetant.
The troll is probably both.
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Mark Kent
> Jim Richardson wrote:
>
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>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:34:31 -0500,
>> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:22:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>
>>>> William Poaster <w...@pclos2007.eu> espoused:
>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ____/ chrisv on Friday 11 January 2008 14:00 : \____
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Quack snotted:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey, Ramon, you might like to take a look at WHO is threatening
>>>>>>>>> people here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't I tell you to fsck off, Quack?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What will he do for a living then? He has no degree and he's
>>>>>> objectionable.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought Quack had degree in bullshit....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nah, he failed - wasn't good enough...
>>>
>>> Why does an nmap show you and Roy Schestowitz posting from the same exact
>>> computer?
>>
>>
>> It doesn't. nmap doesn't tell you where someone is posting from. You are
>> simply lying. Or perhaps woefully incompetant.
>
> The troll is probably both.
>
As I have more than one ISP, I don't know how you'd even decide which
one to point to. The traffic is balanced at my side, so it can go out
either way. Further, my leafnode posts via several news servers, just
as it reads from several, and the lists are not the same.
Roy Schestowitz
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:
>> ____/ Erik Funkenbusch on Friday 11 January 2008 15:50 : \____
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:44:04 -0500, Linonut wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here's a hint for you Roy:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're reporting the news, Ethically, you're not supposed to mix your
>>>>> own speculation with that "news", especially if you don't identify it as
>>>>> such.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be silly, Erik. This is COLA. If we believed uncritically
>>>> everything that was read here, we'd even believe /you/! <evil grin>
>>>
>>> You don't see me claiming my comments are "news", do you? If he's not
>>> reporting the news, that makes his comments even more spam, don't you
>>> think?
>>
>> Erik must have missed the news in one of the sources I cited before. The
>> Gates Foundation was mentioned as a funder. If Erik and his supervisor at
>> the Vole disagree with this, they ought to contact the publication (PC
>> Advisor, IIRC).
>>
>> I look at the original subject line and it's correct. The accusation against
>> me is incorrect because Microsoft wants not dual-boot, but WINDOWS-ONLY.
>> That's based on this morning's news...
>>
>
> Roy - why are you expecting Erik to be honest? He's never shown any
> signs of being in any way reliable.
Yes, but I don't read his posts unless he modifies subject lines or something.
He's also shilling in other Web sites. He's a disgraceful person and he's
probably rewarded by Microsoft one way or another. It's people like him who
ruin society.
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