When is blue not blue? When Lunix crapware is messing with you
DFS
Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
TomB
> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>
> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>
> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
Yes. And your point is?
--
Stupid men are often capable of things the clever would not
dare to contemplate...
~ Terry Pratchett
DFS
> On 2011-05-23, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>
>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>
>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>
> Yes. And your point is?
You just answered it.
TomB
> On 5/23/2011 7:54 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2011-05-23, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Yes. And your point is?
>
> You just answered it.
Funny.
The point of your entire posting that is.
By the way, here's a pretty offensive sig for you:
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ὄνομα τοῦ θηρίου ἢ τὸν ἀριθμὸν τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ. Ὧδε ἡ σοφία ἐστίν·
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καὶ ὁ ἀριθμὸς αὐτοῦ χξϛʹ.
Hadron
TomB
Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
right? Here, put
Urxvt.color4: #333355
in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
% xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
--
Actually, I think he's the most over-rated human being since Judas Iscariot won
the AD31 Best Disciple Competition.
~ Blackadder
Snit
> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>
>
> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>
>
> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>
One of the weaknesses of many desktop Linux programs is the application name
is not made clear on the window (nor elsewhere).
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
DFS
Nope. Just launched Konsole then Gnome Terminal. Then installed
Midnight Commander via the Ubuntu Software Center. It didn't show up in
the menus anywhere, and I remembered you could launch it via 'mc' from
the command line.
And those are the results.
An Old Friend
201105240...@usenet.drumscum.be in stone using Trajan:
> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
> right? Here, put
>
> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>
> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>
> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>
> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole and
> Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
Cue flatfish: "Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again." :)
It is a silly thing to complain about the different background colors in
different terminal applications.
I actually thought he was going to discuss print color vs. display color.
DFS
> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> DFS<nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
> right? Here, put
>
> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>
> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>
> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>
> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
> and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
I just explained all that to Grandma, and she took her dentures out and
threw them at me and told me to "Gett tthhh pffuck outtta mmuuhhh
ffaaaccceeee!!!!"
Snit
PM:
I will say it is a weakness to not have the names of the apps associated
with the app's UI. That seems to be becoming less common though on desktop
Linux.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
DFS
They're trying to de-brand and genericize some of their open source
(cr)apps, in a failed psychological ploy to make victims forget the
excellent proprietary apps they have to do without when they use the
hobbyware.
DFS
> Cue flatfish: "Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again." :)
>
> It is a silly thing to complain about the different background colors in
> different terminal applications.
That's because Linux is a silly exercise for end users. Tell us why
anyone should have to - or will:
put 'Urxvt.color4: #333355' in your ~/.Xresources, merge with % xrdb
-merge ~/.Xresources and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal
Insano.
After I installed Midnight Commander via the Ubuntu Software Center, it
didn't show up in any of the menus. In fact, it didn't even say it
finished installing successfully. Thru experience I knew mc would
launch it from a command line.
Lots of hobbyware is like that - newbs will be clueless and figure the
installation just failed, so they'll try it again. But now the Ubuntu
Software Center says it's already installed. wtf? But it's not in the
menus, so where was it installed, and how do you get it started?
So the victims will end up Googling to find out "Why didn't the
installed program show up in the menus?" And they'll get 10 different
answers, and be shown various fixes, and have to figure out what version
of Gnome and whether they're running Unity or Gnome, and can they use
the Unity or Gnome Menu Editor, blah blah blah
And they will be angry and frustrated at the waste of time, and they
will give up on Linux in short order.
It's purely amateurish, with no project managers or budgets or timelines
or bosses. And very little testing.
And so it goes. Year after year after year.
> I actually thought he was going to discuss print color vs. display color.
Something else Lunix screws up?
Chris Ahlstrom
> On 2011-05-23, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>
>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>
>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>
> Yes. And your point is?
His point is he doesn't know, apparently, that you can edit
your color palette independently in different terminal applications.
Really, DFS's trolling has hit rock bottom for intelligence.
I'll bet even "Hadron" chuckles at his latest feeble attempts.
--
If you can't understand it, it is intuitively obvious.
Chris Ahlstrom
> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Oh, "Hadron" is serious?
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
> right? Here, put
>
> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>
> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>
> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>
> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
> and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
Amazing what thick planks these two Windows users are.
--
Computers will not be perfected until they can compute how much more
than the estimate the job will cost.
Chris Ahlstrom
And I was wrong!
--
No running on pool deck.
flatfish+++
> On 5/23/2011 9:41 PM, An Old Friend wrote:
>
>> Cue flatfish: "Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again." :)
>>
>> It is a silly thing to complain about the different background colors in
>> different terminal applications.
>
Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again :)
And this time it's true.
DFS is correct.
All the geek stuff to change a color is, well, it's geek stuff.
> That's because Linux is a silly exercise for end users. Tell us why
> anyone should have to - or will:
>
> put 'Urxvt.color4: #333355' in your ~/.Xresources, merge with % xrdb
> -merge ~/.Xresources and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal
>
> Insano.
Like Linux itself!
> After I installed Midnight Commander via the Ubuntu Software Center, it
> didn't show up in any of the menus. In fact, it didn't even say it
> finished installing successfully. Thru experience I knew mc would
> launch it from a command line.
Twenty years and they still can't manage to get this right.
I have never, I repeat never had a Windows program do that.
Always a menu item or icon.
It's just another indicator of poor quality.
> Lots of hobbyware is like that - newbs will be clueless and figure the
> installation just failed, so they'll try it again. But now the Ubuntu
> Software Center says it's already installed. wtf? But it's not in the
> menus, so where was it installed, and how do you get it started?
Yep.
Of course the geeks will know the magic command to search for the
package and figure out what command in /usr/bin gets it going.
I think it's mc BTW.
> So the victims will end up Googling to find out "Why didn't the
> installed program show up in the menus?" And they'll get 10 different
> answers, and be shown various fixes, and have to figure out what version
> of Gnome and whether they're running Unity or Gnome, and can they use
> the Unity or Gnome Menu Editor, blah blah blah
Yep.
Ain't choice great!
> And they will be angry and frustrated at the waste of time, and they
> will give up on Linux in short order.
Not only that but when asked about Linux they will get this fire in
their eyeballs and smoke will emanate from their ears as they angrily
tell all who will listen how much Linux sucks.
For some reason, when Linux pisses someone off, it *REALLY* gets them
upset and they enjoy telling others about their miserable experiences
with Linux.
> It's purely amateurish, with no project managers or budgets or timelines
> or bosses. And very little testing.
>
> And so it goes. Year after year after year.
That's because like I said in my little song, there is no
accountability.
>> I actually thought he was going to discuss print color vs. display color.
>
> Something else Lunix screws up?
Sounds like something Kohlmann would be an "expert" on.
Like screens, fonts and anti-aliasing.
--
flatfish+++
Please visit our hall of Linux idiots.
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Watching Linux Fail:
http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
"By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop glory."
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html
DFS
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>>> DFS<nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>>
>>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>>
>>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
>
> Oh, "Hadron" is serious?
>
> Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
>
>> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
>> right? Here, put
>>
>> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>>
>> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>>
>> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>>
>> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
>> and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
>> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
>
> Amazing what thick planks these two Windows users are.
Funny how you came strolling in way late, Linosuck, flapping your
ignorant piehole as if you knew anything... an hour after TomB gave us
the "fix".
Just like raytard did when I asked him to show me how to do a few things
he claimed were "simple to do" in Linux. Somebody else answered, then
raytard came charging up the rear, saying "That's how you do it!"
cola "advocates": bluster and babble.
flatfish+++
That's because Liarmutt doesn't take the time to read the posts he is
sucking up to.
I think he must have ADD or something.
Hadron
> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
> right? Here, put
>
> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>
> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>
> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>
> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
> and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
Why the "rofl"?
I am aware of color mapping and Xresources ( I use them etensively for
emacs and xterm (I switched)). But opacity is available in the settings
for gnome terminal and much more likely to be tweaked accidentally.
The point that dfs makes IS valid. In any well thought out system the
default mappings SHOULD be the same IMO. ie Both should use the system
palette. I dont expect you to acknowledge this or even understand it. And
is why you should not be let near a base products design decision stage.
Hadron
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 21:05:21 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2011 9:41 PM, An Old Friend wrote:
>>
>>> Cue flatfish: "Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again." :)
>>>
>>> It is a silly thing to complain about the different background colors in
>>> different terminal applications.
>>
>
> Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again :)
>
> And this time it's true.
> DFS is correct.
> All the geek stuff to change a color is, well, it's geek stuff.
Except gnome-terminal has a perfectly good gui UI to tweak the colours
including ability to use predefined colour sets. If one is advanced
enough to "choose" something like rxvt then one could and should know
about about xresources. That said I do thnk they should use the same
default colour mappings. What IS a nightmare is when you start to run
different curses type apps in he terminal types and termcap issues
start to crop up.
As a side note only recently has 256 colour rxvt become more the
default. Google.
Hadron
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>>
>>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>>
>>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
>
> Oh, "Hadron" is serious?
>
> Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You really are an idiot Ahlstrom.
Try learning about how these things work before making a fool of
yourself. Its very common for nOObs to play with the opacity slider in
the gnome terminal gui UI.
It was a suggestion, nothing more, to address a common "tweak".
William Poaster
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-05-23, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>
>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>
>> Yes. And your point is?
>
> His point is he doesn't know, apparently, that you can edit
> your color palette independently in different terminal applications.
Yup, & you can do that in every distribution.
> Really, DFS's trolling has hit rock bottom for intelligence.
He likes to prove he's an idiot & has no idea wtf he's doing.
> I'll bet even "Hadron" chuckles at his latest feeble attempts.
Doubt it, the Hadron M$ zealot is his buddy.
--
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"Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves.
Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods."
-- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --
William Poaster
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Blue_vs_blue.png
>>>>
>>>> Left is Konsole, right is Gnome Terminal.
>>>>
>>>> Linux doesn't belong anywhere near end users.
>>>
>>> Did you set opacity perhaps in the gnome terminal?
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
>
> Oh, "Hadron" is serious?
>
> Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
>
>> Rofl. Never heard of color mapping I guess? You're using rxvt-unicode,
>> right? Here, put
>>
>> Urxvt.color4: #333355
>>
>> in your ~/.Xresources, merge with
>>
>> % xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
>>
>> and launch mc in a new rxvt-unicode terminal. There you go. Konsole
>> and Gnome-terminal simply have color4 (ie. blue) mapped to a slightly
>> different shade of blue. Wow. What a revelation! What crapware!
>
> Amazing what thick planks these two Windows users are.
Ahem....should that not be "Windows *lusers*" ?
--
"!sgub evah t'nseod CP sihT ?sgub naem ayaddahW"
chrisv
>> Really, DFS's trolling has hit rock bottom for intelligence.
>
>He likes to prove he's an idiot & has no idea wtf he's doing.
>
>> I'll bet even "Hadron" chuckles at his latest feeble attempts.
>
>Doubt it, the Hadron M$ zealot is his buddy.
Hell, they are probably humping on each other at this very moment.
stukie
> In reply to Chris Ahlstrom who posted:
>
>> Amazing what thick planks these two Windows users are.
>
> Ahem....should that not be "Windows *lusers*" ?
>
only if u want another "troll" to kick ur ass for the next 7 - 15 years
Rafael
useless turd "chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:oh7nt6p9cne0mf4us...@4ax.com...
you mean the way you and dumb willy are humping each other at this very
moment?
useless turds like you are so fscking stupid.
"chrisv" is a piece of shit. "chrisv" is a liar.
JEDIDIAH
...by that logic then neither does WinDOS or MacOS.
WinDOS has the DOS box and MacOS has a Terminal with a proper bash shell.
--
Apple: Being able to install Firefox or VLC makes you a power user. |||
/ | \
TomB
>> On Mon, 23 May 2011 21:05:21 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2011 9:41 PM, An Old Friend wrote:
>>>> Cue flatfish: "Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again."
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> It is a silly thing to complain about the different background
>>>> colors in different terminal applications.
>>>
>>
>> Tell me how Linux is ready for Plain Jayne again :)
>>
>> And this time it's true. DFS is correct. All the geek stuff to
>> change a color is, well, it's geek stuff.
>
> Except gnome-terminal has a perfectly good gui UI to tweak the
> colours including ability to use predefined colour sets. If one is
> advanced enough to "choose" something like rxvt then one could and
> should know about about xresources.
Absolutely agreed. And I specifically used the rxvt-unicode with
~/.Xresources example because I recalled you using rxvt-unicode.
> That said I do thnk they should use the same default colour
> mappings.
But why? It are completely unrelated programs. It's their business how
they render whatever they have to display to the user. Elsewhere you
talk about using the 'system palette', only: there is no 'system
palette' for terminal color mappings.
> What IS a nightmare is when you start to run different curses type
> apps in he terminal types and termcap issues start to crop up.
Termcap issues? You are kidding, right. The termcap database has been
obsolete for many years. From 'man 5 termcap':
"The termcap database is an obsolete facility for describing the
capabilities of character-cell terminals and printers. It is retained
only for capability with old programs; new ones should use the
terminfo(5) database and associated libraries."
> As a side note only recently has 256 colour rxvt become more the
> default. Google.
--
Nice party, Hapsburg... I see a lot of familiar face lifts.
~ Frank Drebin
Chris Ahlstrom
> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>
>> That said I do thnk they should use the same default colour
>> mappings.
>
> But why? It are completely unrelated programs. It's their business how
> they render whatever they have to display to the user. Elsewhere you
> talk about using the 'system palette', only: there is no 'system
> palette' for terminal color mappings.
>
>> What IS a nightmare is when you start to run different curses type
>> apps in he terminal types and termcap issues start to crop up.
>
> Termcap issues? You are kidding, right. The termcap database has been
> obsolete for many years. From 'man 5 termcap':
>
> "The termcap database is an obsolete facility for describing the
> capabilities of character-cell terminals and printers. It is retained
> only for capability with old programs; new ones should use the
> terminfo(5) database and associated libraries."
>
>> As a side note only recently has 256 colour rxvt become more the
>> default. Google.
We know "Hadron" sure did. Google, that is.
"Nightmare" with "different curses type apps"?
I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
--
Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has
limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are
so poor at I/O.
White Spirit
> We know "Hadron" sure did. Google, that is.
> "Nightmare" with "different curses type apps"?
Once more, Hadron demonstrates his ignorance in not knowing that
curses is a library, not a type of application.
> I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
> but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
I'm currently developing an application using ncurses for the
interface and it is a joy to use. I can run test builds from the
console, via SSH from my Nokia N900 or from my Samsung Galaxy tab and
I don't have to worry about handling the screen size and terminal type
beyond respecting the number of lines and columns that the library
reports. In other words, exactly the problems that Termcap, Terminfo
and curses were designed to address.
William Poaster
> On 2011-05-25, Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>
>> We know "Hadron" sure did. Google, that is.
>
>> "Nightmare" with "different curses type apps"?
Yeah! LOL
> Once more, Hadron demonstrates his ignorance in not knowing that
> curses is a library, not a type of application.
His Googled "problem" let him down again. Another Hadron blunder!
>> I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
>> but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
>
> I'm currently developing an application using ncurses for the
> interface and it is a joy to use. I can run test builds from the
> console, via SSH from my Nokia N900 or from my Samsung Galaxy tab and
> I don't have to worry about handling the screen size and terminal type
> beyond respecting the number of lines and columns that the library
> reports. In other words, exactly the problems that Termcap, Terminfo
> and curses were designed to address.
--
chrisv
> White Spirit posted:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We know "Hadron" sure did. Google, that is.
>>
>>> "Nightmare" with "different curses type apps"?
>
>Yeah! LOL
>
>> Once more, Hadron demonstrates his ignorance in not knowing that
>> curses is a library, not a type of application.
>
>His Googled "problem" let him down again. Another Hadron blunder!
Lucky for us those Windows advocates are so fscking *stupid*...
--
"Choice fucks it up once more." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
flatfish+++
> I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
> but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
It's a sign of Linux foss slopware and piss poor programming.
Wendy Toiletwater
stupid asshole "chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:vtspt6locuii3ccqv...@4ax.com...
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>
> Lucky for us those Windows advocates are so fscking *stupid*...
>
nice leg hump you useless turd.
"chrisv" is a liar. "chrisv" is a piece of shit.
Chris
>> I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
>> but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
>
> It's a sign of Linux foss slopware and piss poor programming.
Please demonstrate how aptitude contains "piss poor" programmed code by
showing such code.
Chris Ahlstrom
And while he's at it, he can explained why Microsoft's slow console terminal
and primitive batch commands are not Windows developer slopware and piss
poor programming.
--
Do not pick the flowers.
flatfish+++
You need to learn how to read.
1. I didn't say anything about aptitude having piss poor programming.
Liarmutt said:
" I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude,
but that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
I said:
"It's a sign of Linux foss slopware and piss poor programming."
I don't see me mentioning aptitude.
It could be xorg for all I care.
It's still a sign of piss poor programming.
2. Now trundle along and explain why 7 re-posting the same 340 line
gibberish isn't spamming but you accuse me of spamming by reposting a 1
line link a few times.
Chris
> You need to learn how to read.
> 1. I didn't say anything about aptitude having piss poor programming.
Well, I may have misread the context.
> ...
> I don't see me mentioning aptitude.
But you were answering to a post about a problem occuring while using
aptitude.
> It could be xorg for all I care.
And here you say you didn't make clear what you said. So I have misread
the context but I wasn't wrong.
> It's still a sign of piss poor programming.
Please demonstrate where the "piss poor programming" in Xorg is. Or
whatever you are speaking about.
Nice rant btw.
"It's piss poor programming. I don't know where or what and I don't care
but it is piss poor programming!!1"
> 2. Now trundle along and explain why 7 re-posting the same 340 line
> gibberish isn't spamming but you accuse me of spamming by reposting a 1
> line link a few times.
I have stated my hypothesis why it doesn't bother me so much.
But where is your explanation why "reposting a link a few times" is not
spamming?
TomB
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> On 2011-05-24, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>>
>>> That said I do thnk they should use the same default colour
>>> mappings.
>>
>> But why? It are completely unrelated programs. It's their business
>> how they render whatever they have to display to the user.
>> Elsewhere you talk about using the 'system palette', only: there is
>> no 'system palette' for terminal color mappings.
>>
>>> What IS a nightmare is when you start to run different curses type
>>> apps in he terminal types and termcap issues start to crop up.
>>
>> Termcap issues? You are kidding, right. The termcap database has
>> been obsolete for many years. From 'man 5 termcap':
>>
>> "The termcap database is an obsolete facility for describing the
>> capabilities of character-cell terminals and printers. It is
>> retained only for capability with old programs; new ones should use
>> the terminfo(5) database and associated libraries."
>>
>>> As a side note only recently has 256 colour rxvt become more the
>>> default. Google.
>
> We know "Hadron" sure did. Google, that is.
If he did, he did a very poor job. "termcap issues". Yeah, as if...
"terminal colors system palette". Yeah, sure...
> "Nightmare" with "different curses type apps"?
Sounds 1337, doesn't it? ;-)
> I've had issues with characters sets and repainting in aptitude, but
> that's about it. Hardly a "nightmare".
Not once have I seen repainting issues in ncurses apps. And charset
issues are in your own hands (and may as well be font issues, ie. when
certain characters are not available in certain fonts).
Mhh, I do still have a ~/.terminfo/t/ directory with a terminfo
database for the Terminator terminal emulator, as there's no database
for that terminal included in /lib/terminfo. All terminals available
from the Debian repositories do have a perfectly fine entry there
though. It's nothing the user should ever have to worry about.
--
TomB is so 1337 he keeps a root terminal open all the time.
~ Hadron
flatfish+++
> Am Wed, 25 May 2011 12:58:54 -0400 schrieb flatfish+++:
>
>> You need to learn how to read.
>> 1. I didn't say anything about aptitude having piss poor programming.
>
> Well, I may have misread the context.
>
>
>> ...
>> I don't see me mentioning aptitude.
>
> But you were answering to a post about a problem occuring while using
> aptitude.
>
>> It could be xorg for all I care.
>
> And here you say you didn't make clear what you said. So I have misread
> the context but I wasn't wrong.
>
>> It's still a sign of piss poor programming.
>
> Please demonstrate where the "piss poor programming" in Xorg is. Or
> whatever you are speaking about.
Sigh....
You snipped where I explained that.
Are you Kohlmann per chance?
You seem to have the same thick skull and come from the same neck of the
planet.
> Nice rant btw.
> "It's piss poor programming. I don't know where or what and I don't care
> but it is piss poor programming!!1"
It's not a rant, it's a comment.
Screen repaint problems?
Piss poor programming.
Doesn't matter what module it is, what program, what OS.
It shouldn't happen unless the user is overloading his system and
believe me, Liarmutt would have said that from the start if it were
true.
>> 2. Now trundle along and explain why 7 re-posting the same 340 line
>> gibberish isn't spamming but you accuse me of spamming by reposting a 1
>> line link a few times.
>
> I have stated my hypothesis why it doesn't bother me so much.
Yet you feel the need to call me a spammer because of it.
So which one is it?
> But where is your explanation why "reposting a link a few times" is not
> spamming?
It's directly related to Linux vs other operating systems.
Unlike the crap 7 posts which is complete gibberish and which you seem
to ignore.
1 line on topic vs 340 lines of gibberish.....
So which one does a sane person call "SPAM" ?
Hmmm?
Chris
>> Please demonstrate where the "piss poor programming" in Xorg is. Or
>> whatever you are speaking about.
> Sigh....
> You snipped where I explained that.
You have explained nothing. You have accused a component which you can't
name of containing "piss poor programming" which you were not able to
prove yet.
> Are you Kohlmann per chance?
>
> You seem to have the same thick skull and come from the same neck of the
> planet.
No but you seemed pretty certain at times that I have posted with another
name here. But when asked for evidence you couldn't give an
>> Nice rant btw.
>> "It's piss poor programming. I don't know where or what and I don't
>> care but it is piss poor programming!!1"
>
> It's not a rant, it's a comment.
> Screen repaint problems?
> Piss poor programming.
Tell me where. You don't just assume things, do you?
> Doesn't matter what module it is, what program, what OS.
Then tell me where and what _now_.
What, you don't feel like backing up or researching your claims?
> It shouldn't happen unless the user is overloading his system and
> believe me, Liarmutt would have said that from the start if it were
> true.
Yes, it shouldn't happen. But I don't even really know what "it" is... I
only know that you said there was "piss poor programming" and that you
fail to demonstrate where and what.
>>> 2. Now trundle along and explain why 7 re-posting the same 340 line
>>> gibberish isn't spamming but you accuse me of spamming by reposting a
>>> 1 line link a few times.
>>
>> I have stated my hypothesis why it doesn't bother me so much.
>
> Yet you feel the need to call me a spammer because of it.
> So which one is it?
You troll this group, he trolls trolls.
Was that easy enaugh?
>> But where is your explanation why "reposting a link a few times" is not
>> spamming?
>
> It's directly related to Linux vs other operating systems.
But this is linux advocacy and this is an article that has been
extensively criticised, here and in its own comments.
> Unlike the crap 7 posts which is complete gibberish and which you seem
> to ignore.
Not only seem I to ignore it, I do ignore it.
> 1 line on topic vs 340 lines of gibberish.....
> So which one does a sane person call "SPAM" ?
>
> Hmmm?
Somehow you think this has something to do with the length of the
message. You know, in a newsreader it's no difference if I skip a long
post or a short post.
flatfish+++
> Somehow you think this has something to do with the length of the
> message. You know, in a newsreader it's no difference if I skip a long
> post or a short post.
You're an idiot Chris.
Go waste someone else's time.
Chris
> You're an idiot Chris.
> Go waste someone else's time.
Thanks for admitting you don't have anything meaningful to say.
Chris Ahlstrom
Pretty funny, the concept of somebody being able to waste Flounder's time
more than he wastes it himself, with his voluminous never-ceasing postings
of the same trolling material and jibes over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over, for years and years.
--
The Great Movie Posters:
She's got the biggest six-shooters in the West!
-- The Beautiful Blonde from Bashful Bend (1949)
CAST OF 3,000!
4 WRITERS,
2 DIRECTORS,
3 CAMERAMEN,
3 PRODUCERS!
1 YEAR TO MAKE THIS FILM --
24 YEARS TO REHEARSE --
20 YEARS TO DISTRIBUTE!
BEAUTIFUL BEYOND WORDS!
AWE-INSPIRING! VITAL!
THE PRINCE OF PEACE PROVIDES THE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM!
Be Brave--bring your troubles and your family to:
HISTORY'S MOST SUBLIME EVENT! YOU'LL FIND GOD RIGHT IN THERE!
-- The Prince of Peace (1948). Starring members of the
Wichita Mountain Pageant featuring Millard Coody as Jesus.
White Spirit
> Pretty funny, the concept of somebody being able to waste Flounder's time
> more than he wastes it himself, with his voluminous never-ceasing postings
> of the same trolling material and jibes over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over, for years and years.
He's a monomaniac and exhibits clear signs of psychopathy. I pity
anyone who has to share meatspace with him.
Chris Ahlstrom
Apparently, by his admission, that is not a worry.
--
Genuine happiness is when a wife sees a double chin on her husband's
old girl friend.
stukie
> Am Wed, 25 May 2011 16:07:02 -0400 schrieb flatfish+++:
>
>
>>>> 2. Now trundle along and explain why 7 re-posting the same 340 line
>>>> gibberish isn't spamming but you accuse me of spamming by reposting a
>>>> 1 line link a few times.
>>>
>>> I have stated my hypothesis why it doesn't bother me so much.
>>
>> Yet you feel the need to call me a spammer because of it. So which one
>> is it?
>
> You troll this group, he trolls trolls.
>
> Was that easy enaugh?
>
so, according to you, it is OK for 7 to lie, smear, swear, misrepresent
the facts and in general act as a drooling imbecile as long as it "irks
the trolls"
never mind that the "trolls" kick his sorry ass to the curb every single
time he opens his trap in an attempt to spew the Linux "advocacy" you are
so accustomed to
I am sure it is "easy enaugh" for you to have no shame or regrets as a
functional retard like 7 does that kind of dirty work for you, right?
--
"I'm gonna rain on your parade"
-- Duffy
Chris
> so, according to you, it is OK for 7 to lie, smear, swear, misrepresent
> the facts and in general act as a drooling imbecile as long as it "irks
> the trolls"
I'm talking about what bothers me, not what is "OK".
Do I have an obligation to reply every time that I don't approve? Really?
flatfish+++
You're a spineless gorm Liarmutt.
You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel but instead
follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
ostracized.
Chris
> You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel
Yes, I definitely lack the courage to post in a newsgroup what I think.
That's really something I would be afraid of.
> but instead
> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
> ostracized.
You are wrong.
stukie
> Am Fri, 27 May 2011 23:52:01 +0000 schrieb stukie:
>
>> so, according to you, it is OK for 7 to lie, smear, swear, misrepresent
>> the facts and in general act as a drooling imbecile as long as it "irks
>> the trolls"
>
> I'm talking about what bothers me, not what is "OK".
>
that's a weasel. let me connect the dots for you then.
you said: "I have stated my hypothesis why it doesn't bother me so much."
when pressed, you said: "You troll this group, he trolls trolls."
the "this group" quip points to the private little club that you and the
rest of the Linux "advocates" wish to have (see Homer's troll-free stats
for a reference) where it is OK to say anything you want and anyone who
disagrees is binned as a big bad troll.
so it bothers you that flatfish "trolls this group" because it is not OK
with you. the fact that u are on top of a soap box right here, right now
means that it bothers u more than the 340-liner from 7 because that
one... well... u know... it "trolls trolls" and that is OK with you
it just doesn't bother u so much
Was that easy enaugh?
>
> Do I have an obligation to reply every time that I don't approve?
>
u are the net nanny so u tell me
once would do but I've not seen it which makes you suspect of the
hypocrisy that afflicts the exclusionary elitists in "your group"
>
> Really?
>
really
DFS
You have an obligation to respond to the nutjobs and their crazy/lying
bullshit. This includes 7 and Rex Ballard and Homer at a minimum.
Chris
> the "this group" quip points to
... this newsgroup.
Chris Ahlstrom
> On 28 May 2011 07:01:16 GMT, Chris wrote:
>
>> Am Fri, 27 May 2011 23:52:01 +0000 schrieb stukie:
>>
>>> so, according to you, it is OK for 7 to lie, smear, swear, misrepresent
>>> the facts and in general act as a drooling imbecile as long as it "irks
>>> the trolls"
>>
>> I'm talking about what bothers me, not what is "OK".
>>
>> Do I have an obligation to reply every time that I don't approve? Really?
>
> You're a spineless gorm Liarmutt.
> You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel but instead
> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
> ostracized.
Note to Flounder: "Chris" is not "Chris Ahlstrom".
No wonder I call you "Flounder".
(And your claim is kiddy nonsense anyway, Full Mental Jackass).
--
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt
Chris Ahlstrom
Flounder confuses you with me. He is well into his "Memorial Day"
celebration, methinks. His whiskers are as wet as his brain.
--
There must be at least 500,000,000 rats in the United States; of course,
I never heard the story before.
flatfish+++
> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Am Sat, 28 May 2011 10:52:59 -0400 schrieb flatfish+++:
>>
>>> You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel
>>
>> Yes, I definitely lack the courage to post in a newsgroup what I think.
>> That's really something I would be afraid of.
>>
>>> but instead
>>> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
>>> ostracized.
>>
>> You are wrong.
>
> Flounder confuses you with me. He is well into his "Memorial Day"
> celebration, methinks. His whiskers are as wet as his brain.
Hahaha!
Actually you are correct... I did confuse you two but I just let thin
skinned Chris Hunter blather on and on.
Like I said, he needs to take a class in reading comprehension.
Darn those Sam Adams are powerful....!
DFS
> On Sat, 28 May 2011 17:13:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Am Sat, 28 May 2011 10:52:59 -0400 schrieb flatfish+++:
>>>
>>>> You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel
>>>
>>> Yes, I definitely lack the courage to post in a newsgroup what I think.
>>> That's really something I would be afraid of.
>>>
>>>> but instead
>>>> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
>>>> ostracized.
>>>
>>> You are wrong.
>>
>> Flounder confuses you with me. He is well into his "Memorial Day"
>> celebration, methinks. His whiskers are as wet as his brain.
>
> Hahaha!
>
> Actually you are correct... I did confuse you two but I just let thin
> skinned Chris Hunter blather on and on.
This 'Chris' is not Chris Hunter.
Chris Hunter is a blithering idiot and shrieking liar: "the entire
German government, French government, most of Scandinavia, /all/ of
China, and much of India switched to Linux"
Chris is a German college student, I think. And very knowledgeable
about Linux.
> Like I said, he needs to take a class in reading comprehension.
>
> Darn those Sam Adams are powerful....!
And they prove a 1% market share doesn't mean Linux sucks...
flatfish+++
> On 5/28/2011 5:41 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2011 17:13:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Chris wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Am Sat, 28 May 2011 10:52:59 -0400 schrieb flatfish+++:
>>>>
>>>>> You don't have the balls to speak what you really feel
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I definitely lack the courage to post in a newsgroup what I think.
>>>> That's really something I would be afraid of.
>>>>
>>>>> but instead
>>>>> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
>>>>> ostracized.
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong.
>>>
>>> Flounder confuses you with me. He is well into his "Memorial Day"
>>> celebration, methinks. His whiskers are as wet as his brain.
>>
>> Hahaha!
>>
>> Actually you are correct... I did confuse you two but I just let thin
>> skinned Chris Hunter blather on and on.
>
>
> This 'Chris' is not Chris Hunter.
Yea.
My bad.....
Apologies.
>
> Chris Hunter is a blithering idiot and shrieking liar: "the entire
> German government, French government, most of Scandinavia, /all/ of
> China, and much of India switched to Linux"
Yea.
He is from UK.
>
> Chris is a German college student, I think. And very knowledgeable
> about Linux.
Yes.
I guess I shouldn't jump on him too much about reading comprehension
since I'm not doing too good in this thread myself :)
Sorry Chris.
My bad.
Apologies!
stukie
>
> Sorry Chris.
> My bad.
> Apologies!
>
ROTFLMAO!!!
gotta hand it to u flat... u are one mean dude(tte)!
even when u flounder u still manage to embarrass the "advocates" on the
uptake... :)
chrisv
>> but instead
>> follow the Linux COLA cabal because you are too frightened of being
>> ostracized.
>
>You are wrong.
Why bother with that mentally-ill POS? Some Rex/7 BS notwithstanding,
we're still right 90% of the time. The trolls take the incorrect and
immoral side of pretty-much *every* issue, just do that they can be
part of their disgusting circle-jerk.