So what would you do if there was no Vista?
This group is so far out of touch with reality that it is scary.
Face it, Vista is everywhere.
The stores are jammed with people buying Vista, hardware upgrades, systems
with Vista and so forth.
Linux?
It can't even be located.
Better send out an Amber Alert...........
Linux is MIA.........
.....as if that's anything new.
Linux has been MIA for more than 10 years.
What can be said about something that is given away for free and can't
even put a dent in Microsoft's desktop market.
I'll tell you what can be said: People don't want Linux.
People have ignored Linux because Linux doesn't offer them anything new or
better than what they have now but Linux does have the potential to screw
up their systems.
So let the feeding frenzy continue.
Take the frenzy outside the comfort of comp.os.linux.advocacy and the nice
men in white jackets would be coming after most of you.
IOW people would be laughing at you.
Something along the lines of:
Linux?
WTF is Linux?
Never heard of it.
Can it run Halo?
You may now return to your paranoia.
<SNIP>
> So what would you do if there was no Vista?
>
> This group is so far out of touch with reality that it is scary. Face
> it, Vista is everywhere. The stores are jammed with people buying
> Vista, hardware upgrades, systems with Vista and so forth.
>
> Linux? It can't even be located. Better send out an Amber
> Alert........... Linux is MIA..............as if that's anything new.
> Linux has been MIA for more than 10 years. What can be said about
> something that is given away for free and can't even put a dent in
> Microsoft's desktop market.
>
> I'll tell you what can be said: People don't want Linux. People have
> ignored Linux because Linux doesn't offer them anything new or
> better than what they have now but Linux does have the potential to
> screw up their systems.
<SNIP>
Comrade Dimitry, did you not read State IT News:
http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2007/02/05/234178
Article states,
> Schools in the Perm region will soon quit buying software from
> commercial companies, said the region’s Education Minister Nikolay
> Karpushin. The announcement was made in line with the report on
> ensuring “license purity” in the region’s schools. According to
> Nikolay Karpushin schools would start using freely distributed
> software like the Linux OS, Russky office and Open office desktop
> apps, Ekho Moskvi reports. “Buying business and commercial programmes
> from producers is quite expensive”, the Minister said.
>
> Andrei Garkanov, Aflex Software Marketing Director thinks there are
> cheap, localized Russian Linux distributives in this country,
> “ASPLinux 11.2 for example. It has a user-friendly graphic interface,
> any documents might be created in it without installing special
> programmes, one can use the internet, listen to music and even learn
> the basics of Linux programming. It has a safe working environment
> because operational systems with plain code have a low virus
> probability”, said Mr. Garkanov. State educational facilities have a
> 50% discount on ASPLinux distributives.
You have been spending too much time in Cold War Era, embracing
capitalist lies.
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> Dimitry wrote:
>> This group should be renamed comp.os.microsoft.paranoia because for
>> the most part, that is a good description of the discussions. It's
>> like a feeding frenzy of sharks in this group. Tell me, honestly,
>> what would you all be discussing if Vista never happened?
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> So what would you do if there was no Vista?
>>
>> This group is so far out of touch with reality that it is scary. Face
>> it, Vista is everywhere. The stores are jammed with people buying
>> Vista, hardware upgrades, systems with Vista and so forth.
>>
>> Linux? It can't even be located. Better send out an Amber
>> Alert........... Linux is MIA..............as if that's anything new.
>> Linux has been MIA for more than 10 years. What can be said about
>> something that is given away for free and can't even put a dent in
>> Microsoft's desktop market.
>>
>> I'll tell you what can be said: People don't want Linux. People have
>> ignored Linux because Linux doesn't offer them anything new or
>> better than what they have now but Linux does have the potential to
>> screw up their systems.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Comrade Dimitry, did you not read State IT News:
>
> http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2007/02/05/234178
>
> Article states,
>
>> Schools in the Perm region will soon quit buying software from
>> commercial companies, said the region?s Education Minister Nikolay
>> Karpushin. The announcement was made in line with the report on
>> ensuring ?license purity? in the region?s schools. According to
>> Nikolay Karpushin schools would start using freely distributed
>> software like the Linux OS, Russky office and Open office desktop
>> apps, Ekho Moskvi reports. ?Buying business and commercial programmes
>> from producers is quite expensive?, the Minister said.
>>
>> Andrei Garkanov, Aflex Software Marketing Director thinks there are
>> cheap, localized Russian Linux distributives in this country,
>> ?ASPLinux 11.2 for example. It has a user-friendly graphic interface,
>> any documents might be created in it without installing special
>> programmes, one can use the internet, listen to music and even learn
>> the basics of Linux programming. It has a safe working environment
>> because operational systems with plain code have a low virus
>> probability?, said Mr. Garkanov. State educational facilities have a
>> 50% discount on ASPLinux distributives.
>
> You have been spending too much time in Cold War Era, embracing
> capitalist lies.
It's probably Gary, posting from his usual gateway.
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> <retarded bullshit snipped>
Get back to your High School homework, jr.
>
> You may now return to your paranoia.
Thanks, and never come back.
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>>> This group should be renamed comp.os.microsoft.paranoia because
>>> for the most part, that is a good description of the
>>> discussions. It's like a feeding frenzy of sharks in this
>>> group. Tell me, honestly, what would you all be discussing if
>>> Vista never happened?
What's Vista?
>>> So what would you do if there was no Vista?
Er ... same thing I do now; maintain a Linux-powered website with a
Linux powered CMS, write software for Linux and produce RPM packages
for Red Hat and Fedora systems, browse the web and read email and
newsgroups using Linux software, play Linux and Windows games under
Linux, learn Perl and PHP under Linux, run massive batch jobs of video
transcoding projects using Linux software, listen to music and watch
video using Linux software, etc., etc. Did you have something
particular in mind?
To me, Windows is completely irrelevant, and Vista is little more than
a joke.
>>> This group is so far out of touch with reality
Reverse psychology?
You should try coming round my neck o' the woods. In the UK, nobody
cares about Vista. Nobody. Everyone I know who uses Windows is sick to
death of it, and quite frankly scared of Vista, esp. after that WGA
nonsense. Add to that the extortionate price in comparison to the
U.S. price, and Vista is virtually stillborn in the UK. I know quite a
few Win2K users who have vowed that their next upgrade will be Ubuntu.
>>> People don't want Linux.
Unsubstantiated nonsense.
>>> People have ignored Linux
Which "people"?
How do you know how many people have downloaded Linux? There's no
"Till Receipts" with Free software, that you can put on a market-share
chart.
>>> because Linux doesn't offer them anything new or better than what
>>> they have now
Nothing new?
Nothing better?
Well apart from Linux's better security, stability, efficiency, and
standards compliance, a proper ACL inplementation in SELinux, new eye
candy with XGL and Beryl, Linux LiveCDs which even Windows users need
to rescue their b0rked Windows systems, and the flexibility and
do-no-evil approach of Open Source.
>>> but Linux does have the potential to screw up their systems.
Pure FUD.
I was reminded very recently of how frequently and seriously *Windows*
and its applications screw up, after I was given an iPod for my
birthday. I plugged it in ... BSOD. I rebooted, launched iTunes
... HANG. I did a power reset, and did the usual perfunctory "clean
Windows" routine lasting a couple of hours, including a reinstall of
iTunes. Now it (iTunes) runs and works with the new iPod, but v e r y
s l o w l y.
I gave up, rebooted into Linux, launched GTkPod, and synced my music
and (recently transcoded) H264 video collection from an NFS
share. Very snappy, no hiccups, BSODs, reboots, or slow and stupid
behaviour to worry about. Windows is a pig of an OS.
>> Comrade Dimitry
Something tells me that a freedom hating imperialist like "Dimitry" is
no "comrade".
>> http://eng.cnews.ru/news/top/indexEn.shtml?2007/02/05/234178
>>
>> Article states,
>>
>>> Schools in the Perm region will soon quit buying software from
>>> commercial companies, said the region?s Education Minister Nikolay
>>> Karpushin.
About time too. There should be a law against any public institution
spending taxpayers' money on commercial software, when better and Free
alternatives exist.
> It's probably Gary, posting from his usual gateway.
When the prozac wears off, his schizoid personalities surface.
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| Layer' when they go through our landfill sites" - Sian Berry, the
| Green Party.
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According to:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
Pronunciation: 'vis-t&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, sight, from visto, past participle of vedere to see,
from Latin vidEre -- more at WIT
1 : a distant view through or along an avenue or opening : PROSPECT
2 : an extensive mental view (as over a stretch of time or a series of
events)
Actually, the name is quite apt.
1. I have taken "a distant view through or along an avenue or opening
(prospect)" and found it quite lacking compared with alternatives.
2. After "an extensive mental view (as over a stretch of time or a
series of events)" compared with my Linux experiences since 1996, I find
I do not need Vista.
>>>> So what would you do if there was no Vista?
>
> Er ... same thing I do now; maintain a Linux-powered website with a
> Linux powered CMS, write software for Linux and produce RPM packages
> for Red Hat and Fedora systems, browse the web and read email and
> newsgroups using Linux software, play Linux and Windows games under
> Linux, learn Perl and PHP under Linux, run massive batch jobs of
> video transcoding projects using Linux software, listen to music and
> watch video using Linux software, etc., etc. Did you have something
> particular in mind?
>
> To me, Windows is completely irrelevant, and Vista is little more
> than a joke.
I and most of my colleagues agree. We are tired of the hardware upgrade
cycle.
Here is a key example of FUD:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3600724.stm
> Microsoft's Linux ad 'misleading' Computer user looking at the Linux
> website The ASA said different hardware was used in the claims
> Microsoft has been reprimanded over misleading advertising by the
> Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).
>
> The UK watchdog upheld complaints about a magazine advert which
> claimed that the open-source operating system Linux was more
> expensive than Windows.
>
> Referring to research, it read: "Linux was found to be over 10 times
> more expensive than Windows Server 2003".
>
> The ASA concluded that the comparison was misleading because the
> operating systems ran on different hardware.
>
> Hardware differences
>
> Microsoft had said the Get the Facts ad campaign was intended to
> compare competing file-serving set-ups that met the same needs and
> were intended for the same purposes.
>
> According to the software giant, a field test by independent analysts
> showed that Linux could be 10 times more expensive than Windows.
>
> A graph used in the advert compared the cost in US dollars per
> megabit per second of a Linux image running on two z900 mainframe
> CPUs, with a Windows Server 2003 image running on two 900 MHz Intel
> Xeon CPUs.
>
> But the ASA ruling said the hardware chosen for Linux was more
> expensive than it needed to be and could have influenced the outcome
> of the analysis.
>
> Microsoft has been asked to change the advert.
>
> Linux is an open-source operating system, which means it is
> essentially "free".
>
> But many software companies use elements of it as the basis for
> programs they make commercially available.
There are no facts, only "Get the".
> You may now return to your paranoia.
It's you who should be paranoid since eventually we'll figure out your
IP address, location and ISP and begin prosecution.
Hope you have a good lawyer.
> Dimitry wrote:
>
>> You may now return to your paranoia.
>
>
> It's you who should be paranoid since eventually we'll figure out your
> IP address,
Got it when he carelessly trolled BoycottNovell:
72.81.192.168
pool-72-81-192-168.bltmmd.east.verizon.net
As for Larry Qualig, he uses a Web proxy in Califoria even though he lives in
Boston.
> location
Hampton, New York State.
> and ISP and begin prosecution.
Verizon.
> Hope you have a good lawyer.
Let us hope for Gary.
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> It's probably Gary, posting from his usual gateway.
aioe.org I assume, hence the new header. ;-)
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& their elbow.
They can't talk out of their elbow.
> Tell me, honestly, what would you all be discussing if Vista never
> happened?
Mostly, Linux advocacy. We can't help that trolls post here. It's a free
Usenet.
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> This group should be renamed comp.os.microsoft.paranoia because for the
> most part, that is a good description of the discussions.
Nah... more like comp.os.microsoft.public.laughter.