On 10/8/12 10:15 PM, in article
201210090...@usenet.drumscum.be,
"TomB" <
tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-10-08, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>
> 8<
>
>>>> By the way, keep in mind that MS was one of the top contributors
>>>> to Linux last year.
>>>
>>> They added some bloatware interface, which was itself bloatware.
>>
>> And a lot of the activity from Microsoft was the churn of fixing
>> things they hadn't bothered to get right the first time. And it's
>> not "Linux" per se, it's only the kernel. Anyway, one (flawed)
>> aspect of the story:
>>
>>
>>
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2166123/microsoft-contributed-code-c
>> anonical-linux-2632
>>
>> Microsoft contributed more code than Canonical to Linux since
>> 2.6.32
>>
>> More code? No, not code... code and code changes. In other words,
>> code-fisting slop.
>
> They are counting "commits" as far as I know, so there is no
> disctinction between "added" code and "changed" code. Not that this is
> important at all. In the grand scheme of things, Microsoft's
> contributions to the Linux kernel are very tiny, and only concern
> support for the Hyper-V platform.
Well, being one of the top contributors for a year is not saying they have
contributed a lot over the *years*. Who knows, they may or may not be
contributing a lot this year.
The point is anyone who is saying they want to avoid anything MS has its
hands in should avoid Linux. Of course, the only people saying this are
cult-like whackos who base their computing decisions on something other than
what serves them best (and this includes Linux and OS X users - there are
whackos who use both of them). As such, reason and rationality will not come
into play and they will simply make excuses and be inconsistent.
>> To continue:
>>
>> SOFTWARE DEVELOPER Microsoft entered the top 20 in the list of Linux
>> kernel contributors, coming in 17th place ahead of Linaro and
>> Canonical.
>>
>> Microsoft, a firm that many Linux users believe tried to kill off
>> Linux through SCO, is the 17th most active contributor to the Linux
>> kernel project since version 2.6.36. According to figures released by
>> the Linux Foundation, Microsoft submitted 688 changes, one per cent
>> of the overall changelog.
>
> Indeed, one percent of the changelog between 2.6.36 and 3.2, and just
> through adding support for the Hyper-V platform.
>
>> One percent, eh? And Snit converts that to
>>
>>>> MS was one of the top contributors to Linux
>
> I think he included "last year" in his initial claim, but that doesn't
> make it any less of a bullshit claim.
It is an *accurate* claim.
<
http://goo.gl/r4vDH>
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For the first time ever, Microsoft appeared in the list of the
top-20 contributors for a kernel release.
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Company Name Number of Changes Percent of Total
Microsoft 688 1.0%
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Company Name Signoff Lines Percent of Total
Microsoft 2,174 1.1%
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That is from the Linux Foundation. And you are saying that they are making a
"bullshit claim". Insane.
> He's probably referring to the fix-ups on the Hyper-V stuff for Linux 3.1 (I
> think it was 3.1), where indeed MS was responsible for a rather large part of
> the changelog. This was one single occurance though, and hardly can be
> presented as the norm for the entire year.
So the Linux Foundation was doing something wrong in presenting this
information? Did you want them to bury this... hide the facts?
> The correct claim would be
>
> "With the 3.1 release Microsoft was responsible for a large part of
> the overall changelog."
>
>> Whereas the reality is that Microsoft's contribution was tiny:
>>
>> Microsoft's contribution in the grand scale of Linux is tiny,
>> with Red Hat, Intel, Novell and IBM accounting for almost 25 per
>> cent of all changes. Microsoft however is very keen to make Linux
>> distributions work well with its Hyper-V hypervisor, so its
>> kernel contributions are not entirely selfless.
>>
>> As the loose wording of the URL title shows, though, Snit is not the
>> only dumbass to crow misleadingly about Microsoft's "top"
>> contribution to the "Linux".
>
> Ah, the media... Microsoft added support for Hyper-V to Linux. Period.
> It certainly isn't a "top contributor" because of that.
So you think the Linux Foundation is lying in a way to benefit Microsoft.
That is just silly.