Yet Another Dud Linux Distribution.
Moshe Goldfarb
Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
Tell me, do they actually test these things before they foist them on the
general populous?
"One reason I wanted to take a look at DreamLinux 3.0 was it's claim on
their website that they had the easiest tool to install DreamLinux 3.0 to a
USB Key. Well, it is an easy tool.. If it worked.. It didnt work for
me.. But maybe others had better success. Wasn't any problem with the key
as it was brand new and made bootable and upon not working at all in
DreamLinux 3.0 I immediately had no issues placing my favorite Puppy Linux
3.0.1 on same key.
Maybe they need to work at this... :) Could just have been me too...."
It wasn't him.
I just tried it and it tanked on me too.
So here we have another Linux piece of junk destined for the bitbucket.
Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
Oh, I forgot it's all about choice.
What good is choice when everything you get to choose from stinks?
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NoStop
> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>
> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
>
> Tell me, do they actually test these things before they foist them on the
> general populous?
>
> "One reason I wanted to take a look at DreamLinux 3.0 was it's claim on
> their website that they had the easiest tool to install DreamLinux 3.0 to
> a
> USB Key. Well, it is an easy tool.. If it worked.. It didnt work for
> me.. But maybe others had better success.
Try plugging your USB Key in a USB port on your computer rather than up your
ass. Might work then.
Cheers.
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Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>>
>> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
>> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
>>
>> Tell me, do they actually test these things before they foist them on the
>> general populous?
>>
>> "One reason I wanted to take a look at DreamLinux 3.0 was it's claim on
>> their website that they had the easiest tool to install DreamLinux 3.0 to
>> a
>> USB Key. Well, it is an easy tool.. If it worked.. It didnt work for
>> me.. But maybe others had better success.
>
> Try plugging your USB Key in a USB port on your computer rather than up your
> ass. Might work then.
>
> Cheers.
What is it with COLA Linux freaks and their obsession with rectums?
ray
> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>
> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
According to distrowatch.com about 360 active Linux distributions. If
they're all duds, then you have nothing to worry about, so crawl home!
Moshe Goldfarb
Yea,,,what about the inactive ones?
You know the ones where Johnny got over his "I'm going to be a programmer"
phase and abandoned the project.
What happens to the poor suckers who committed to those distributions?
The problem with Linux is that distributions are born daily.
The problem with Linux is that these same distributions also die on a daily
basis.
Once Johnny discovers that girls are softer than VI or Emacs, another Linux
distribution goes down the drain.
netcat
> Once Johnny discovers that girls are softer than VI or Emacs, another
> Linux distribution goes down the drain.
$ man girls
No manual entry for girls
$
Oh, well. Back to VI...
Frank
Try plugging your USB Key into your ass like I do!
I like to do that!
it feels great!
Cheers.
---------------------------
You're sick!
Frank
Ignoramus20845
> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
/i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
i
Rick
> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>
> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
>
(snip
Even if what you say is true... so what?
--
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Moshe Goldfarb
Figures.........
Moshe Goldfarb
I would say not hibernating on a laptop is a pretty big problem.
the wharf rat
netcat <net...@idontdospam.invalid> wrote:
>$ man girls
>No manual entry for girls
>$
>Oh, well. Back to VI...
Try man -S 4 girls. They're a special file.
Ignoramus20845
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:51 -0500, Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>
>> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
>>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
>>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>>
>> As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
>> /i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
>> screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
>> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>>
>> i
>
> I would say not hibernating on a laptop is a pretty big problem.
>
It is a big problem. I do not like it. But given that everything else
functions smoothly and there is an unlimited amount of what I can do,
I accept it. But it is a problem worth mentioning.
As far as I know, they are fully redoing hibernation in the newer
kernels and it will hopefully work better.
i
Gordon
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>>>
>>> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
>>> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
>>>
>>> Tell me, do they actually test these things before they foist them on the
>>> general populous?
>>>
>>> "One reason I wanted to take a look at DreamLinux 3.0 was it's claim on
>>> their website that they had the easiest tool to install DreamLinux 3.0 to
>>> a
>>> USB Key. Well, it is an easy tool.. If it worked.. It didnt work for
>>> me.. But maybe others had better success.
>>
>> Try plugging your USB Key in a USB port on your computer rather than up your
>> ass. Might work then.
>>
>> Cheers.
>
> What is it with COLA Linux freaks and their obsession with rectums?
>
does need to be stopped. In usual Linux style a start is being made with the
backend
bobbie
20845.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:51 -0500, Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>
> >>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
> >>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
> >>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>
> >> As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
> >> /i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
> >> screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
> >> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>
> >> i
>
> > I would say not hibernating on a laptop is a pretty big problem.
>
> It is a big problem. I do not like it. But given that everything else
> functions smoothly and there is an unlimited amount of what I can do,
> I accept it. But it is a problem worth mentioning.
>
> As far as I know, they are fully redoing hibernation in the newer
> kernels and it will hopefully work better.
>
> i
Hibernate works on my laptop. I guess a lot depends on the hardware
used. I'm running Mint on a Dell Latitude D600.
When I close the screen the HDD light does a few flickers then the
power LED starts to fade off and on indicating that the laptop is
hibernating.
When I open the lid there's a little HDD activity and then everything
is back to normal.
I don't know what the total time I can keep the machine in hibernate
is, but hibernate does noticeably extend the run time of my laptop.
I haven't tried suspend yet.
I should.
Might do it tonight.
Tattoo Vampire
> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
Mush, why do you continually fool with an operating system you apparently
hate? Why not fuck off to alt.os.windows.morons where you belong, you arm
swinging, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging knobstain?
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Moog
> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
{AOLU - Removed. This drivel is not required here}
This has no relevance to the group I'm reading it in and just smacks of
petty point scoring.
Get a bloody life, for crying out loud.
--
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"If this is gonna be that kinda party I'm gonna stick my dick in the
mashed potatoes"
William Poaster
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>
> Mush, why do you continually fool with an operating system you apparently
> hate? Why not fuck off to alt.os.windows.morons where you belong, you arm
> swinging, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging knobstain?
Flatfish's pal, Hardon Quack, was asked in alt.os.linux.ubuntu that as he's so
derisory about distributions, why doesn't *he* make one?
As yet, Quack has declined (WHAT a surprise!). So why doesn't "Moshe
Goldfarb"Flatfish get onto his buddy Quack about it? Oh, but of *course* he
won't, because they're both wintrolls.
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chrisv
> Moshe Goldfarb illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
>> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>
> {AOLU - Removed. This drivel is not required here}
>
> This has no relevance to the group I'm reading it in and just smacks of
> petty point scoring.
>
> Get a bloody life, for crying out loud.
Unfortunately, the "Moshe"/flatfish troll enjoys being an obnoxious
asshole, and will take your post as a sign that s/h/it is succeeding.
chrisv
> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
Please don't feed the troll. He's already had all this explained to him.
spi...@freenet.co.uk
> Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please don't feed the troll. He's already had all this explained to him.
Dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of times...
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>> According to distrowatch.com about 360 active Linux distributions. If
>> they're all duds, then you have nothing to worry about, so crawl home!
> Yea,,,what about the inactive ones?
> You know the ones where Johnny got over his "I'm going to be a programmer"
> phase and abandoned the project.
> What happens to the poor suckers who committed to those distributions?
Simple, oh moronic one.
They move on. OOo, that was difficult, wasn't it boys and girls?
What is your suggestion oh wise one?
Ban production of all new distributions, perhaps?
If I wanted to experiment with making my own distro, I damned well would.
If someone out there wanted to try it, well, that's their choice, if they
liked it, even better. If I decided to abandon it, then tough luck to them.
(there's nothing stopping THEM from continuing with it of course)
Not all distros are backed by large companies like redhat. Or millionnaires
like Ubuntu is.
Linux is both big business AND hobby.
I know your brain can't quite get that. It's soo dense very little
information can penetrate it. But... Them's the facts.
> The problem with Linux is that distributions are born daily.
The problem is you see it as a problem.
IT is not a problem.
Never has been, never will be.
You want a stable well supported distro, stick with the big 8.
You want to play around and see what other people have done with it, play
around and see what other people have done with it.
No-one's forcing you. So fuck off and leave the rest of us to our fun you
pathetic little troll.
> The problem with Linux is that these same distributions also die on a daily
> basis.
What problem was that again?
I see no problem.
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kurttrail
> What is it with COLA Linux freaks and their obsession with rectums?
I think that they are just trying to make an asshole, like you, feel
comfortable.
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mimus
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Hmm... I was reading through this and why do we have to fight?
Moshe Goldfarb
FWIW Puppy Linux is pretty decent.
At least it's different from the run of the mill Linux distribution.
Wes Groleau
> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
Install XP and VMWare. Strip out everything you don't need from XP.
Set Zone Alarm so that VMWare (and machines it virtualizes) can talk
freely, but nothing else on XP can get out.
Then run Ubuntu as a virtual machine and let VMWare and/or XP
handle the hibernation.
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Ignoramus14041
> Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>
> Install XP and VMWare. Strip out everything you don't need from XP.
> Set Zone Alarm so that VMWare (and machines it virtualizes) can talk
> freely, but nothing else on XP can get out.
>
> Then run Ubuntu as a virtual machine and let VMWare and/or XP
> handle the hibernation.
>
That's seriously painful, for no good reason. My system boots in about
a minute.
i
Wes Groleau
Hey, I wouldn't do it either. But if you gotta have hibernation....
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from handbooks) are to be treated as variables.
Hadron
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>
> Mush, why do you continually fool with an operating system you apparently
> hate? Why not fuck off to alt.os.windows.morons where you belong, you arm
> swinging, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging knobstain?
Because, you preening moron, what he is saying is that all these half
arsed distros are BAD for Linux advocacy. His advice of less distros and
better quality is GOOD advocacy. No mention of Windows. But discussing
the merits of different approaches for Linux development into the
future. Surely you see how all these distros are creating confusions and
a total mess? SURELY this can not be beyond your self satisfied, smug
radar?
Hadron
Which *immediately* make Linux a no go for many, many people.
Get rid of the millions of distros. Concentrate on the top 10% and get
this shit working. The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
Hadron
> On Apr 4, 9:11 pm, Ignoramus20845 <ignoramus20...@NOSPAM.
> 20845.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:51 -0500, Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>>
>> >> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
>> >>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
>> >>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>>
>> >> As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
>> >> /i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
>> >> screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
>> >> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>>
>> >> i
>>
>> > I would say not hibernating on a laptop is a pretty big problem.
>>
>> It is a big problem. I do not like it. But given that everything else
>> functions smoothly and there is an unlimited amount of what I can do,
>> I accept it. But it is a problem worth mentioning.
>>
>> As far as I know, they are fully redoing hibernation in the newer
>> kernels and it will hopefully work better.
>>
>> i
>
> Hibernate works on my laptop. I guess a lot depends on the hardware
> used. I'm running Mint on a Dell Latitude D600.
Did you work that out on your own Marti? Well done.
> When I close the screen the HDD light does a few flickers then the
> power LED starts to fade off and on indicating that the laptop is
> hibernating.
> When I open the lid there's a little HDD activity and then everything
> is back to normal.
Paraphrase: "it works for me".
> I don't know what the total time I can keep the machine in hibernate
> is, but hibernate does noticeably extend the run time of my laptop.
"hibernate extends the run time of my laptop".
But actually it doesn't. It reduces it. I'll let you work out why. Yes,
its word games but the fact is that hibernate reduces the run time of
your laptop. See if you can tell me why.
> I haven't tried suspend yet.
> I should.
> Might do it tonight.
Report back.
Ignoramus14041
I believe that hibernation is being fully redone in 2.6.26 kernel,
though I do not know much. It is a turn off for many, but it is just a
annoyance to me.
i
Hadron
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>>> According to distrowatch.com about 360 active Linux distributions. If
>>> they're all duds, then you have nothing to worry about, so crawl home!
>
>> Yea,,,what about the inactive ones?
>> You know the ones where Johnny got over his "I'm going to be a programmer"
>> phase and abandoned the project.
>> What happens to the poor suckers who committed to those distributions?
>
> Simple, oh moronic one.
> They move on. OOo, that was difficult, wasn't it boys and girls?
>
> What is your suggestion oh wise one?
> Ban production of all new distributions, perhaps?
> If I wanted to experiment with making my own distro, I damned well would.
> If someone out there wanted to try it, well, that's their choice, if they
> liked it, even better. If I decided to abandon it, then tough luck to them.
> (there's nothing stopping THEM from continuing with it of course)
>
> Not all distros are backed by large companies like redhat. Or millionnaires
> like Ubuntu is.
>
> Linux is both big business AND hobby.
> I know your brain can't quite get that. It's soo dense very little
> information can penetrate it. But... Them's the facts.
>
>
>> The problem with Linux is that distributions are born daily.
>
> The problem is you see it as a problem.
> IT is not a problem.
Of course its a problem. People are reinventing the wheel when in a
properly managed environment their creative juices could be channeled
into a more productive direction.
Of course, having a CS degree and all, you would know that from your SW
Engineering components. Or did you not study that either?
> Never has been, never will be.
The linux adoption rates would beg to differ. "Oh wise one who shows off
his degree with every post".
> You want a stable well supported distro, stick with the big 8.
> You want to play around and see what other people have done with it, play
> around and see what other people have done with it.
>
> No-one's forcing you. So fuck off and leave the rest of us to our fun you
> pathetic little troll.
For someone who bandies his qualifications about you sure like to commit
yourself to be a foul mouthed arsehole with little if any grip on modern
day development requirements.
>
>> The problem with Linux is that these same distributions also die on a daily
>> basis.
>
> What problem was that again?
> I see no problem.
Because you are a proven idiot with no grip on reality. Lets see - you
were incredulous when I mentioned that a good CS degree would have
Compiler Technologies. You openly advocate pirating SW and Music of the
web since it "doesnt hurt anyone" and now you can not see how muddying
the waters with lots of decaying distros and "how tos" reduces
visibility for the Linux way forward. No wonder you got shipped off to
teach people how to use notepad on Windows machines.
Oh, and you swear and curse all the time as your panties get all bunched
up as yet another poster totally slaps you back down with facts and
common sense.
caver1
Hardon you're wrong. there aren't million of distros.
Even if there were it would show you how much smarter Linux users are
then MS users.
caver1
mimus
Well, that's what I meant, he seems to like it, in direct contradiction to
the OP's putative moral.
Tattoo Vampire
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Tattoo Vampire
> Oh, and you swear and curse all the time as your panties get all bunched
> up as yet another poster totally slaps you back down with facts and
> common sense.
When you were born, the doctor slapped your mother. Then he slapped the
nurse for staring at you.
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NoStop
> Ignoramus20845 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.20845.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
>>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
>>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>>
>> As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
>> /i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
>> screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
>> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>>
>> i
>
> Which *immediately* make Linux a no go for many, many people.
>
> Get rid of the millions of distros.
Oh, now there are millions, hey? What an asswipe.
> Concentrate on the top 10% and get
> this shit working.
Anytime you're ready Hardon. We're all waiting with baited breath for YOUR
great distro.
> The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
> like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
The old trickle down theory. Give us Hardonix and then we'll see how well
the "good stuff" will trickle down. Hehehehehe.
Cheers.
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ray
> On 5 Apr 2008 02:23:39 GMT, ray wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:40 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.reviewlinux.com/?m=show&id=9926
>>>
>>> Dream Linux, yet another one of the almost 1000+ different versions of
>>> Linux proves itself to be yet another dud.
>>
>> According to distrowatch.com about 360 active Linux distributions. If
>> they're all duds, then you have nothing to worry about, so crawl home!
>
> Yea,,,what about the inactive ones?
> You know the ones where Johnny got over his "I'm going to be a
> programmer" phase and abandoned the project.
> What happens to the poor suckers who committed to those distributions?
>
> The problem with Linux is that distributions are born daily. The problem
> with Linux is that these same distributions also die on a daily basis.
>
> Once Johnny discovers that girls are softer than VI or Emacs, another
> Linux distribution goes down the drain.
So, you don't have anything to worry about, so go crawl in your hole!
Moshe Goldfarb
> Hadron wrote:
>
> [blah]
>
> Hadron, go fuck yourself with a rusty farm implement. Hopefully you'll
> perforate your colon and die a slow, painful death.
What is it with COLA Linux advocates and rectums, colons and other nasty
parts of the body?
You guys really should clean up your act.
Moshe Goldfarb
Exactly!!
BTW I don't apply this to targeted distributions like say DSL or 64Studio
etc.
Those certainly have a good use and are targeted at a specific set of
needs.
Moshe Goldfarb
If you are a business person doing a lot of traveling it is a major PITA.
FWIW my Thinkpad worked with Hibernation under PCLinuxOS, I *think* it
worked under Mepis but it did NOT work under Ubuntu last time I tried it.
Maybe they have fixed it.
Moshe Goldfarb
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Oh, and you swear and curse all the time as your panties get all bunched
>> up as yet another poster totally slaps you back down with facts and
>> common sense.
>
> When you were born, the doctor slapped your mother. Then he slapped the
> nurse for staring at you.
When you were born the doctor slapped your face, then turned you around
slapped your behind and said "wow!! twins!!!!"
Ignoramus14041
>> I believe that hibernation is being fully redone in 2.6.26 kernel,
>> though I do not know much. It is a turn off for many, but it is just a
>> annoyance to me.
>>
>> i
>
> If you are a business person doing a lot of traveling it is a major PITA.
> FWIW my Thinkpad worked with Hibernation under PCLinuxOS, I *think* it
> worked under Mepis but it did NOT work under Ubuntu last time I tried it.
>> Maybe they have fixed it.
I am not a business person, but I use my laptop on train twice a
day. What saves me is that it boots quickly.
Also, additionally, I use dm-crypt and my entire laptop's data is
encrypted. If a thief could boot this laptop from hibernation, then
the purpose of encryption would be defeated.
It is something that I did not even consider prior to making this
post. Makes me feel bad that I did not think about it.
i
Tattoo Vampire
> When you were born the doctor slapped your face, then turned you around
> slapped your behind and said "wow!! twins!!!!"
In your case they mistakenly threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth.
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...A clear conscience is usually the result of bad memory.
Tattoo Vampire
> The old trickle down theory. Give us Hardonix and then we'll see how well
> the "good stuff" will trickle down. Hehehehehe.
Quack is too busy working on his s00per seKrittt open source application to
fool with an entire Linux distro.
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spi...@freenet.co.uk
>> The problem is you see it as a problem.
>> IT is not a problem.
> Of course its a problem. People are reinventing the wheel when in a
> properly managed environment their creative juices could be channeled
> into a more productive direction.
> Of course, having a CS degree and all, you would know that from your SW
> Engineering components. Or did you not study that either?
You've never had a hobby have you.
The most mind-taxing thing you've ever done is stamp collecting.
People who have more creative technical hobbies ENJOY reinventing the wheel,
whether it's soldering a few electronic components together to create a
simple radio, writing a linked list routine from scratch or creating a
new linux distro.
There's no real POINT in creating a new linked list routine from scratch,
there're dozens of premade libs that provide those routines, but people do
it anyway, as a HOBBY.
There's no reason why anyone would create a new distribution OTHER THAN as a
HOBBY. Unless there's some new hardware platform to port it to or some new
specialised purpose someone's come up with.
>> Never has been, never will be.
> The linux adoption rates would beg to differ. "Oh wise one who shows off
> his degree with every post".
Oh, sod off with you "linux adoption rates"
Irrelevant, inaccurate and impossible to calculate.
How many linux desktops are deployed? Impossible for you or anyone else to
say, much as you love singing the wintroll's tune of less than 1%, you will
never have any hard data to back that up in any meaningful way.
>> You want a stable well supported distro, stick with the big 8.
>> You want to play around and see what other people have done with it, play
>> around and see what other people have done with it.
>>
>> No-one's forcing you. So fuck off and leave the rest of us to our fun you
>> pathetic little troll.
> For someone who bandies his qualifications about you sure like to commit
> yourself to be a foul mouthed arsehole with little if any grip on modern
> day development requirements.
Awwww, did my fucking bad language upset you, you irritating little cunt?
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, diddums.
>> What problem was that again?
>> I see no problem.
> Because you are a proven idiot with no grip on reality. Lets see - you
> were incredulous when I mentioned that a good CS degree would have
> Compiler Technologies.
*yawn*
> You openly advocate pirating SW and Music of the
> web since it "doesnt hurt anyone"
*YAWWWWWWWWWWN*
By GOD you're getting boring, hadron.
> and now you can not see how muddying
> the waters with lots of decaying distros and "how tos" reduces
> visibility for the Linux way forward.
And you prove yet again that you don't understand free software.
The waters aren't being "muddied".
These "new and decaying distros" as you so pathetically call them aren't
even VISIBLE or PUBLICISED to the general public. IF you want to use one of
them you have to actively LOOK for it.
As far as the general non-computer expert public aware of linux is
concerned, there's only Redhat, Mandriva, SUSE, Debian, Ubuntu, Xandross and
PCLinuxOS. Possibly Knoppix.
As for the rest of the public who're barely AWARE of linux, how can 4000
different distros over the past 20 years "muddy" waters they're not even
aware exist?
You can't have it both ways. Either no-one knows about linux or the entire
populace is terminally confused by 4000 different versions.
Trouble is, you change your tune and argument more often than someone with
chronic diarrhoea changes his underwear.
> Oh, and you swear and curse all the time as your panties get all bunched
> up as yet another poster totally slaps you back down with facts and
> common sense.
I'll fucking use whatever twatting language I cunting well feel like as the
situation sodding well dictates you obsequeous little turd.
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Rick
And AGAIN, there is no evidence that killing off distros will increase
development on any other distro.
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Tattoo Vampire
> And AGAIN, there is no evidence that killing off distros will increase
> development on any other distro.
Don't forget, Quack wants a Linux Grand Central Committee that would
arbitrarily kill off lesser distros and force their developers into slave
labor, working for the committee's "chosen" distro.
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William Poaster
> Rick wrote:
>
>> And AGAIN, there is no evidence that killing off distros will increase
>> development on any other distro.
>
> Don't forget, Quack wants a Linux Grand Central Committee that would
> arbitrarily kill off lesser distros and force their developers into slave
> labor, working for the committee's "chosen" distro.
Comrade Joseph S. Quack wants a Linux-politburo to rubberstamp his approvals.
Any which don't, won't see the light of day.
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spi...@freenet.co.uk
> Rick wrote:
>> And AGAIN, there is no evidence that killing off distros will increase
>> development on any other distro.
> Don't forget, Quack wants a Linux Grand Central Committee that would
> arbitrarily kill off lesser distros and force their developers into slave
> labor, working for the committee's "chosen" distro.
Indeed.
And if they refused, they'd have their hands cut off so they could never
program a computer again, have all their computer equipment confiscated and
be forced to live in a concentration camp with no mod cons.
Tattoo Vampire
> Comrade Joseph S. Quack wants a Linux-politburo to rubberstamp his approvals.
> Any which don't, won't see the light of day.
And the chief developer gets it in the back of the head.
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Daniel Willard
should do a thesis on the subject!
Disgusting!!!
Daniel
Kinney Baughman
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:11:53 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> [blah]
>>
>> Hadron, go fuck yourself with a rusty farm implement. Hopefully you'll
>> perforate your colon and die a slow, painful death.
>
> What is it with COLA Linux advocates and rectums, colons and other nasty
> parts of the body?
>
> You guys really should clean up your act.
Come on, Moshe. You're enjoying this.
If you really think Linux is that bad, and we all admit it isn't for
everyone, then install Vista or buy a Mac and go on your way.
No one is forcing you to do anything. We're not even forcing you to
post here. That's your *choice*.
As hard as it is for you to believe, some of us *choose* to use Linux
for all its merits despite its shortcomings. Every OS has it pluses and
minuses.
It's time to quote from one of the greatest albums of all time, "The
Point" by Harry Nillson, God rest his soul.
"You see what you want to see. And you hear what you want to hear."
We all understand very well that you don't see so much good with Linux.
Great! Fine. If we were all of a kind, there'd only be one Linux
distribution. Just like there's only one Vista or Mac OS distribution.
But that's now what we're about.
It's neither worse nor better. It's different.
Now pick up your toys and go along your merry way. We have better
things to talk about here.
Kinney
netcat
What Hadron is saying is that we should deny users the right to modify
GPL software and to release the result for others to use. That does not
sound to me like an open-source lover. Rather, it sounds like someone
who seeks to rip out the very heart of open source.
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:11:53 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>> [blah]
>>>
>>> Hadron, go fuck yourself with a rusty farm implement. Hopefully you'll
>>> perforate your colon and die a slow, painful death.
>>
>> What is it with COLA Linux advocates and rectums, colons and other nasty
>> parts of the body?
>>
>> You guys really should clean up your act.
>
> Come on, Moshe. You're enjoying this.
I'll admit the Linux loonies are entertaining to observe, but only from a
distance because they tend to spit and throw fecal matter.
> If you really think Linux is that bad, and we all admit it isn't for
> everyone, then install Vista or buy a Mac and go on your way.
I don't like Vista at all, I've made that clear from the start.
Currently I have no intention of downgrading XP and going to Vista.
As for Mac, if Microsoft doesn't get it's act together by the time it's
time for my new system, I just might jump ship.
> No one is forcing you to do anything. We're not even forcing you to
> post here. That's your *choice*.
I've been here since 1994.....
> As hard as it is for you to believe, some of us *choose* to use Linux
> for all its merits despite its shortcomings. Every OS has it pluses and
> minuses.
I have no problem with that.
Choose what works for *you*.
> It's time to quote from one of the greatest albums of all time, "The
> Point" by Harry Nillson, God rest his soul.
>
> "You see what you want to see. And you hear what you want to hear."
One of my favorites!
BTW you have just described the typical COLA Linux advocate to the letter.
> We all understand very well that you don't see so much good with Linux.
Wrong.
I see a lot good with Linux.
It's Linux zealot advocates and in particular the lying, PAID spammers over
in COLA that I have take exception to.
> Great! Fine. If we were all of a kind, there'd only be one Linux
> distribution. Just like there's only one Vista or Mac OS distribution.
And Linux might actually challenge Windows for the desktop if that were
true.
> But that's now what we're about.
And sadly that's one major reason why Linux sits at 0.6 percent of the
desktop market.
Too many distributions, too many Indians and not enough chiefs.
> It's neither worse nor better. It's different.
>
> Now pick up your toys and go along your merry way. We have better
> things to talk about here.
Do you still play with toys?
I thought you were older.
Oh well.
I'll lend you my fire truck if I can play with your race car?
> Kinney
Hadron
No I'm not. Whatever gave you that idea? I am saying you do not build an
entire distro around some l33t hyck.
> sound to me like an open-source lover. Rather, it sounds like someone
> who seeks to rip out the very heart of open source.
Yes, but you've shit for brains and don't read what's being said.
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Tattoo Vampire
> As for Mac, if Microsoft doesn't get it's act together by the time it's
> time for my new system, I just might jump ship.
Jump ship? Sorry, Munch, but OSX won't run on your new Commodore 64.
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Ignoramus14041
> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:42:47 -0400, Kinney Baughman wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:11:53 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [blah]
>>>>
>>>> Hadron, go fuck yourself with a rusty farm implement. Hopefully you'll
>>>> perforate your colon and die a slow, painful death.
>>>
>>> What is it with COLA Linux advocates and rectums, colons and other nasty
>>> parts of the body?
>>>
>>> You guys really should clean up your act.
>>
>> Come on, Moshe. You're enjoying this.
>
> I'll admit the Linux loonies are entertaining to observe, but only from a
> distance because they tend to spit and throw fecal matter.
>
>> If you really think Linux is that bad, and we all admit it isn't for
>> everyone, then install Vista or buy a Mac and go on your way.
>
> I don't like Vista at all, I've made that clear from the start.
> Currently I have no intention of downgrading XP and going to Vista.
>
> As for Mac, if Microsoft doesn't get it's act together by the time it's
> time for my new system, I just might jump ship.
I have a friend with a Mac laptop, and I was very impressed.
Everything "just works" and there is FreeBSD under the hood. You can
have cronjobs, ssh, etc. Also apache, mplayer, emacs, firefox, etc.
Also, the backup on Mac is not some kind of a "premium" feature. It is
called "time machine".
i
bobbie
> bobbie <bobbi...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Apr 4, 9:11 pm, Ignoramus20845 <ignoramus20...@NOSPAM.
> > 20845.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:11:51 -0500, Ignoramus20845 wrote:
>
> >> >> On 2008-04-05, Moshe Goldfarb <brick.n.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Humor me a little, why can't you Linux loons get together and create a
> >> >>> single distribution that actually works as designed instead of all these
> >> >>> hamstrung distributions that have *issues*.
>
> >> >> As far as my own computer use is concerned, ubuntu works and does what
> >> >> /i want, from a obsolete freebie laptop with 256 mb of ram, and 10"
> >> >> screen, to big servers with a lot of expensive hardware.
> >> >> the only annoying thing is that it does not hibernate on my big laptop.
>
> >> >> i
>
>
> >> It is a big problem. I do not like it. But given that everything else
> >> functions smoothly and there is an unlimited amount of what I can do,
> >> I accept it. But it is a problem worth mentioning.
>
> >> As far as I know, they are fully redoing hibernation in the newer
> >> kernels and it will hopefully work better.
>
> >> i
>
> > Hibernate works on my laptop. I guess a lot depends on the hardware
> > used. I'm running Mint on a Dell Latitude D600.
>
> Did you work that out on your own Marti? Well done.
>
Try as I might, I can't see any posting from someone named Marti. Oh
well.
> > When I close the screen the HDD light does a few flickers then the
> > power LED starts to fade off and on indicating that the laptop is
> > hibernating.
> > When I open the lid there's a little HDD activity and then everything
> > is back to normal.
>
> Paraphrase: "it works for me".
>
Funny, before I swapped out the original 20 GB hard drive that had
WIndows XP on it for something with a little more room, a Samsung 120
GB hard drive( with only Linux on it), Windows XP would 'hibernate',
but when awoken my PCMCIA WiFi card would never come back on.
Everything else worked, just not the network card. Oh well. Nothing
that a reboot wouldn't fix.
> > I don't know what the total time I can keep the machine in hibernate
> > is, but hibernate does noticeably extend the run time of my laptop.
>
> "hibernate extends the run time of my laptop".
>
> But actually it doesn't. It reduces it. I'll let you work out why. Yes,
> its word games but the fact is that hibernate reduces the run time of
> your laptop. See if you can tell me why.
>
Never was good at 'word games'. I'm waiting for your explanation.
> > I haven't tried suspend yet.
> > I should.
> > Might do it tonight.
>
> Report back.
I'll try it tonight when I head home.
Gregory Shearman
> Anytime you're ready Hardon. We're all waiting with baited breath for YOUR
> great distro.
Hey Fishbreath!
It's 'bated breath, from the archaic abated breath... not baited breath.
--
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Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
spi...@freenet.co.uk
> entire distro around some l33t hyck.
And how do you STOP him from doing that if he so wishes if you can't ban the
modification of GPL software?
>> sound to me like an open-source lover. Rather, it sounds like someone
>> who seeks to rip out the very heart of open source.
> Yes, but you've shit for brains and don't read what's being said.
LOL!
And you call HIM shit for brains? You can't even grasp simple concepts, like
freedom to modify.
chrisv
> What Hadron is saying is that we should deny users the right to modify
> GPL software and to release the result for others to use. That does not
> sound to me like an open-source lover. Rather, it sounds like someone
> who seeks to rip out the very heart of open source.
That's exactly right. It's for the benefit of his beloved Micro$oft Corp.
Hadron
> Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> No I'm not. Whatever gave you that idea? I am saying you do not build an
>> entire distro around some l33t hyck.
>
> And how do you STOP him from doing that if he so wishes if you can't ban the
> modification of GPL software?
When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not ban
this stuff. This is WHY its all such a mess. I also agree that "banning"
per se is not a good thing. However, and I know you will struggle with
this, it doesn't make it a good thing.
It's like talking to a brick wall. It's not all about what we may or may
not do. It's about whether it's a good idea or not for the general good
of Linux and its advancement.
chrisv
> NoStop wrote:
>
>> Anytime you're ready Hardon. We're all waiting with baited breath for
>> YOUR great distro.
>
> Hey Fishbreath!
>
> It's 'bated breath, from the archaic abated breath... not baited breath.
Hehe. Who ate my worms?
Rick
When will you get it through your thick skull? ... killing distors won't
guarantee any more resources for any other distro?
--
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Moshe Goldfarb
Probably Marti or maybe HPT...
Tattoo Vampire
> Get rid of the millions of distros. Concentrate on the top 10% and get
> this shit working. The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
> like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
Hey, dumbass. How do you propose to "get rid" of the millions of distros?
"When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not ban
this stuff." -- Quack
LOL, you're such an abject moron.
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[Add little to little and there will be a big pile.]
-- Ovid
Hadron
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Get rid of the millions of distros. Concentrate on the top 10% and get
>> this shit working. The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
>> like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
>
> Hey, dumbass. How do you propose to "get rid" of the millions of
> distros?
LOL. It really is like talking to a brick wall. Almost as dumb as
Spike1. Firstly dont encourage the new ones, secondly dont advertise the
existing ones.
The point is quite clear - more and more distros are NOT a good
idea. Get the existing ones working.
>
> "When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not ban
> this stuff." -- Quack
>
> LOL, you're such an abject moron.
Your point is? I know we can not ban them. "Get rid of" in the context
should be perfectly clear - stop encouraging and making out these things
are good "choice".
Just because you can not house train your dog, it doesn't mean you want
to go stepping in its crap every day. Or maybe you like that. Wouldn't
surprise me.
Tattoo Vampire
> The point is quite clear - more and more distros are NOT a good
> idea. Get the existing ones working.
Jawohl, mein fuhrer!
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NoStop
And you know what's good for the advancement of Linux? Does that include
agreeing with Mr. Soap Dish whenever he posts something that slams Linux?
Does that including bitching and griping about how FOSS software doesn't
meet YOUR standards, while contributing fukall to it's development? Does
that include attacking those who try and advocate for Linux by constantly
writing them off as some kind of COLA crowd? Does that include bitching
about there being too many distros out there and there should be only one
omnipotent distro, ala Windoze? I'm really curious ... just how do you
advance Linux? Seriously?
Cheers.
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Hadron
> Quack quakced:
>
>> The point is quite clear - more and more distros are NOT a good
>> idea. Get the existing ones working.
>
> Jawohl, mein fuhrer!
Not even slightly amusing. It becomes more and more apparent that you
wish Linux to fail for some reason since you contribute nothing back
other than blind fan boy love. You should save that for marti.
--
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*less* than Win 98 by a factor of two.
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Tattoo Vampire
> Not even slightly amusing. It becomes more and more apparent that you
> wish Linux to fail for some reason since you contribute nothing back
> other than blind fan boy love. You should save that for marti.
Why would I desire for something I use on a daily basis to fail, Quack?
--
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[tv]
"The porcupine with the sharpest quills gets stuck on a tree more often."
Moshe Goldfarb
> Quack quacked:
>
>> Not even slightly amusing. It becomes more and more apparent that you
>> wish Linux to fail for some reason since you contribute nothing back
>> other than blind fan boy love. You should save that for marti.
>
> Why would I desire for something I use on a daily basis to fail, Quack?
You like self inflicted pain.
You must, after all you *are* using Linux....
Snit
SbOdnaFSgI5DRWXa...@supernews.com on 4/6/08 7:06 AM:
But if distro developers were to work together they could combine their
strengths... such as the strength of PCLOS's organization and visual design
with Ubuntu's less-fractured UI. Right now there is no distro that offers
both...
--
When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how
to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not
beautiful, I know it is wrong. -- R. Buckminster Fuller
Rick
> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Get rid of the millions of distros. Concentrate on the top 10% and get
>>> this shit working. The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
>>> like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
>>
>> Hey, dumbass. How do you propose to "get rid" of the millions of
>> distros?
>
> LOL. It really is like talking to a brick wall. Almost as dumb as
> Spike1. Firstly dont encourage the new ones, secondly dont advertise the
> existing ones.
>
> The point is quite clear - more and more distros are NOT a good idea.
> Get the existing ones working.
Red Hat works. Debian works. Slackware works. Suse works. Mandriva works.
PCLiunxOS works. Ubuntu works. Puppy works. DSL works. etc, etc, etc...
>
>
>> "When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not
>> ban this stuff." -- Quack
>>
>> LOL, you're such an abject moron.
>
> Your point is? I know we can not ban them. "Get rid of" in the context
> should be perfectly clear - stop encouraging and making out these things
> are good "choice".
Why aren't they "good choice"?
>
> Just because you can not house train your dog, it doesn't mean you want
> to go stepping in its crap every day. Or maybe you like that. Wouldn't
> surprise me.
And AGAIN... killing distros will not guarantee more resources for those
left.
--
Rick
Rick
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:54:20 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>
>> Quack quacked:
>>
>>> Not even slightly amusing. It becomes more and more apparent that you
>>> wish Linux to fail for some reason since you contribute nothing back
>>> other than blind fan boy love. You should save that for marti.
>>
>> Why would I desire for something I use on a daily basis to fail, Quack?
>
> You like self inflicted pain.
> You must, after all you *are* using Linux....
You like self inflicted pain.
You must, after all *you* are using Linux...
--
Rick
Snit
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:26:49 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get rid of the millions of distros. Concentrate on the top 10% and get
>>>> this shit working. The fixes can then trickle on to the lamer distros
>>>> like DreamDump or whatever it's called.
>>>
>>> Hey, dumbass. How do you propose to "get rid" of the millions of
>>> distros?
>>
>> LOL. It really is like talking to a brick wall. Almost as dumb as
>> Spike1. Firstly dont encourage the new ones, secondly dont advertise the
>> existing ones.
>>
>> The point is quite clear - more and more distros are NOT a good idea.
>> Get the existing ones working.
>
> Red Hat works. Debian works. Slackware works. Suse works. Mandriva works.
> PCLiunxOS works. Ubuntu works. Puppy works. DSL works. etc, etc, etc...
Well, they each work in some ways... guess it depends on your criteria and
your standards.
>>> "When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not
>>> ban this stuff." -- Quack
>>>
>>> LOL, you're such an abject moron.
>>
>> Your point is? I know we can not ban them. "Get rid of" in the context
>> should be perfectly clear - stop encouraging and making out these things
>> are good "choice".
>
> Why aren't they "good choice"?
>
>>
>> Just because you can not house train your dog, it doesn't mean you want
>> to go stepping in its crap every day. Or maybe you like that. Wouldn't
>> surprise me.
>
> And AGAIN... killing distros will not guarantee more resources for those
> left.
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Tattoo Vampire
> You like self inflicted pain.
> You must, after all you are using Linux....
If using Linux is painful, why do you use it? Oh, that's right, you don't;
you just lie about using it.
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netcat
> spi...@freenet.co.uk writes:
>
>> Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>>> No I'm not. Whatever gave you that idea? I am saying you do not build
>>> an entire distro around some l33t hyck.
One of the wonderful things about open source is that you're not denied
the opportunity to make the OS work the way you need it to just because
someone else judges your modification a "l33t hyck".
>> And how do you STOP him from doing that if he so wishes if you can't
>> ban the modification of GPL software?
>
> When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not ban
> this stuff. This is WHY its all such a mess. I also agree that "banning"
> per se is not a good thing. However, and I know you will struggle with
> this, it doesn't make it a good thing.
The freedom to experiment with code, build on it, and release it for
others to build upon is what allowed minix to grow into Ubuntu and has
led to the existence of some 20,000 open-source applications to go with
it. The very thing that you claim to be "bad" is what's allowed Linux to
survive and grow where Netscape, OS/2, DRDOS, BeOS, and many others were
murdered by Microsoft's underhanded tactics.
> It's like talking to a brick wall. It's not all about what we may or may
> not do. It's about whether it's a good idea or not for the general good
> of Linux and its advancement.
You FUD against Linux and actively work to disrupt the Linux advocacy
group, so please don't pretend to be oh-so-concerned with Linux's
health.
caver1
To me it is good for general Linux development in that you get more
people trying different avenues at the same time. So not only dose it
help in the development directly it also keep many more interested in
the workings.
So "Dud" linux failed. So what? Maybe there was code in it that did that
other distros can adopt or on the other hand they can learn a lesson
from the ones that fail and not waste their time going down that route
because someone else did.
The more that work on a project can only help.
caver1
caver1
Just because you build great houses doesn't mean that your kids
shouldn't try to do better.
caver1
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> You like self inflicted pain.
>> You must, after all you are using Linux....
>
> If using Linux is painful, why do you use it? Oh, that's right, you don't;
> you just lie about using it.
I use it, Linux, just to test it.
It flunks the test every time.
My primary OS is Windows.
caver1
> "Rick" <no...@nomail.com> stated in post
> SbOdnaFSgI5DRWXa...@supernews.com on 4/6/08 7:06 AM:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:29:39 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> spi...@freenet.co.uk writes:
>>>
>>>> Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>>>>> No I'm not. Whatever gave you that idea? I am saying you do not build
>>>>> an entire distro around some l33t hyck.
>>>> And how do you STOP him from doing that if he so wishes if you can't
>>>> ban the modification of GPL software?
>>> When will you get it through your thick head that we KNOW we can not ban
>>> this stuff. This is WHY its all such a mess. I also agree that "banning"
>>> per se is not a good thing. However, and I know you will struggle with
>>> this, it doesn't make it a good thing.
>>>
>>> It's like talking to a brick wall. It's not all about what we may or may
>>> not do. It's about whether it's a good idea or not for the general good
>>> of Linux and its advancement.
>> When will you get it through your thick skull? ... killing distors won't
>> guarantee any more resources for any other distro?
>>
>>
> But if distro developers were to work together they could combine their
> strengths... such as the strength of PCLOS's organization and visual design
> with Ubuntu's less-fractured UI. Right now there is no distro that offers
> both...
>
>
Not everyone wants both.
caver1
Snit
47f8ff79$0$30700$4c36...@roadrunner.com on 4/6/08 9:51 AM:
So offer both as a default and let the few folks who want to reduce their
productivity do so... and, of course. let people set things up for special
needs. No argument here.
--
One who makes no mistakes, never makes anything.
Tattoo Vampire
> I use it, Linux, just to test it.
> It flunks the test every time.
> My primary OS is Windows.
So, let me get this straight. You don't use Linux on a regular basis, or
advocate it. You install it just to test it, then bitch in a Linux advocacy
group when it doesn't pass your tests. What a loser.
--
Regards,
[tv]
The more the merrier.
-- John Heywood
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> I use it, Linux, just to test it.
>> It flunks the test every time.
>> My primary OS is Windows.
>
> So, let me get this straight. You don't use Linux on a regular basis, or
> advocate it. You install it just to test it, then bitch in a Linux advocacy
> group when it doesn't pass your tests. What a loser.
You don't seem to be too smart Baboo.....
One more time:
I USE Linux just to test it. IOW it is installed on my TEST system, not my
PRODUCTION system.
Get it??
I doubt it...
Tattoo Vampire
> I USE Linux just to test it. IOW it is installed on my TEST system, not my
> PRODUCTION system.
Again, why are you continually "testing" an operating system that you do
nothing but slam, day in and day out?
--
Regards,
[tv]
Don't get mad, get interest.
Hadron
Uh oh. Another crazy who doesn't actually realise what's being
suggested.
Firstly we dont necessrily care about "everyone" - only the GREAT
majority. Secondly I am hard pressed to think of ANYONE who would not
want a better organized distro with a less fractured UI.