Boycott of cola starts midnight Sunday 15-Nov, for 30 days
DFS
Zeke
Moshe
cc
Clogwog
amicus_curious
RayLopez
Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they don't.
The cola nutjobs have labeled us "trolls" and out of place and off-topic for
years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt down from sheer boredom.
See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
DFS
ray
Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
it.
>
> DFS
Don Zeigler
> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
> it.
They won't be able to.
But it will be nice to have a garbage-free newsgroup for however long the
trolls' willpower holds out.
And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
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High Plains Thumper
> DFS wrote:
>
>> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>
> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to
> make it.
Pro'ly a cost cutting measure, furlough. FUD budget remains underfunded
since Windows Vista 7 sales haven't been as sparkling as anticipated.
--
HPT
Arend van der Berigheid
> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>
> Zeke
> Moshe
> cc
> Clogwog
> amicus_curious
> RayLopez
I will join as well and maybe it's not such a bad idea to stay in touch by
posting (and have a few good laughs) about the cola loons in this dead ng
called alt.comp.linux-sucks?
spi...@freenet.co.uk
It's nice to see them actually ACCEPT a challenge laid down by someone who's
not one of them. I'm the one who replied to doofy with
"How do you KNOW it'll be boring without you? Why not try a little
experiment. You (and that's a collective "you" meaning ALL wintrolls, and
hadron who constantly denies being one despite the evidence, depart for one
month. Just one month and see if WE find it boring. Whether you find it
boring is irrelevant because you have no place here."
Then a day later he started the "who's up for a one month boycott" thread.
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Goblin
So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
the meantime...
Have you thought of stretching it into the new year? To be honest you
give yourselves all too much credit...if you made any difference to my
enjoyment of this NG I would have killfiled you ages ago.
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Sinister Midget III
Mushy Flatfart was already gone. I think Doofie meant Der Führer.
Don't worry, Doof. We all get mixed up a little with Flatso changing
nyms so often. Hell, Flatface gets even more mixed up than us and gives
away who s/h/it is fairly quickly every time.
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Sinister Midget III
> And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
His wife can't afford it. He'd get lonely and depressed. He'd need to
drown his sorrow in even more Twinkies. She's already tapped-out trying
to support his lazy ass without adding more expenses on top.
It was stick around COLA annoying everybody or get a job. Which would
you expect him to choose?
--
After a number of decimal places, nobody gives a damn.
Chris Ahlstrom
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:23:28 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>>
>> Zeke
>> Moshe
>> cc
>> Clogwog
I wonder if Clogwog has also sworn off the Windows ng for awhile.
>> amicus_curious
>> RayLopez
>>
>> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they
>> don't.
>>
>> The cola nutjobs have labeled us "trolls" and out of place and off-topic
>> for years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt down from sheer
>> boredom.
Bullshit.
>> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>
> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
> it.
Even if these nutjobs swore off COLA forever, there's an endless supply of
their type.
--
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A: To stamp out forest fires.
Q: Why do elephants have big flat feet?
A: To stamp out flaming ducks.
Chris Ahlstrom
> ray wrote:
>
>> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
>> it.
>
> They won't be able to.
>
> But it will be nice to have a garbage-free newsgroup for however long the
> trolls' willpower holds out.
>
> And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
Might as well face it/
He's addicted to trolling/
--
Beware of a dark-haired man with a loud tie.
Tim Smith
>
> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they don't.
How can one stay away, when there is so much amusing stuff to discuss,
like these political comments from you-know-who:
BTW, I learned today that US youth is brainwash so as to prepare for
South American invasions, mostly with Chavez in mind
They paint these people are the "bad guys" in films now
Preparation for another "boogey man"
_Hicham_: maybe they'll leave the east alone for a while
They found oil in Venezuela
So they can just slaughter and invade other "brown people" in their
own continents
"their"..."own"
US="America"
Or this, when someone said that "more than 40% of US citizens don't have
health insurance":
_Hicham_: that's 'good', part of the plan
Not the health plan
The plan to control population
Health as a luxury for the rich
Even trivially-curable illlnesses
Scarcity of drugs = abundance of human death
Price of life rises
Or the notion that people get large-screen TVs to compensate for small
peckers.
Can you really walk away for a month from the best comedy show on the
net?
--
--Tim Smith
TomB
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>
>>> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
>>> it.
>>
>> They won't be able to.
>>
>> But it will be nice to have a garbage-free newsgroup for however long the
>> trolls' willpower holds out.
>>
>> And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
>
> Might as well face it/
> He's addicted to trolling/
Haha, too funny. I now have a mental picture of Snit in a tight black
dress, wiggling around with a Macbook in his hands.
Thanks a lot!
--
Life is a sexually transmitted disease.
~ R.D. Laing
Phil Da Lick!
> On 2009-11-16, Don Zeigler <donze...@geeeeeeeeemail.com.fixtheobvious> claimed:
>
>> And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
>
> His wife can't afford it. He'd get lonely and depressed. He'd need to
> drown his sorrow in even more Twinkies. She's already tapped-out trying
> to support his lazy ass without adding more expenses on top.
>
> It was stick around COLA annoying everybody or get a job. Which would
> you expect him to choose?
>
They'll all just nymshift for a month. Expect a glut of new windummies
that disappear next month.
Hadron
And, according to HPT, big bikes mean a small lad too.
>
> Can you really walk away for a month from the best comedy show on the
> net?
I don't think I can.
Schestowitz is bananas.
Hadron
Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
Don Zeigler
> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
You just can't stay away, can you, Quirk?
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Terry Porter
> ray pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:23:28 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>>>
>>> Zeke
>>> Moshe
>>> cc
>>> Clogwog
>
> I wonder if Clogwog has also sworn off the Windows ng for awhile.
>
>>> amicus_curious
>>> RayLopez
>>>
>>> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they
>>> don't.
>>>
>>> The cola nutjobs have labeled us "trolls" and out of place and
>>> off-topic for years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt down
>>> from sheer boredom.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>>> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>>
>> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
>> it.
>
> Even if these nutjobs swore off COLA forever, there's an endless supply
> of their type.
If they disappear for a month, it means either ... MS isn't paying for a
month, which is pretty hard to believe, because no one would employ
idiots like that lot to hang around Cola.
Or they are all nyms of one deranged nutter, who will be away from his PC
for a month.
Maybe flatfish is the above nutter, and finally sold his house on Long
Island and has to move before he can spam here again ?
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Peter Köhlmann
What was there to "predict"?
That none of your fellow wintroll filth would "vanish" for a month and
instead just reappear as someone "new"?
Has already happened with flatfish, and all the other wintroll scum will
follow suit
--
It's sweet to be remembered, but it's often cheaper to be forgotten.
Hadron
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
>
> You just can't stay away, can you, Quirk?
And miss this? You must be out your Vulcan mind....
High Plains Thumper
> Arend van der Berigheid wrote:
>>
>>> Zeke Moshe cc Clogwog amicus_curious RayLopez
>>
>> I will join as well and maybe it's not such a bad idea to stay in
>> touch by posting (and have a few good laughs) about the cola loons
>> in this dead ng called alt.comp.linux-sucks?
Flatfish sock joins.
>>> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if
>>> they don't.
They won't. Snit can't help himself so ditto for him.
>>> The cola nutjobs have labeled us "trolls" and out of place and
>>> off-topic for years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt
>>> down from sheer boredom.
>>>
>>> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>
> lol So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop
> up in the meantime...
>
> Have you thought of stretching it into the new year? To be honest
> you give yourselves all too much credit...if you made any difference
> to my enjoyment of this NG I would have killfiled you ages ago.
Appears that Flatfish and nyms have finally sold their house on Long
Island, NY. Or we'll see some new female personas, who seem oddly
curious about Linux, which then degrades into a flamefest with
advocates, seemingly with prior knowledge of history and issues of the
newsgroup.
For the rest, FUD budget must have a shortfall, time for furlough.
Windows Vista 7 sales have not been as sparkling as anticipated.
--
HPT
Hadron
You mean like when you nymshifted to Wendy Toiletwater and got caught
out?
Poor, poor hpt. Always the last to the dance floor ....
spi...@freenet.co.uk
Why don't you fuck off for a month like the rest of them,
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High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper hastily babble:
>> ray wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>>> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you
>>> to make it.
>>
>> Pro'ly a cost cutting measure, furlough. FUD budget remains
>> underfunded since Windows Vista 7 sales haven't been as sparkling
>> as anticipated.
>
> It's nice to see them actually ACCEPT a challenge laid down by
> someone who's not one of them. I'm the one who replied to doofy with
>
> "How do you KNOW it'll be boring without you? Why not try a little
> experiment. You (and that's a collective "you" meaning ALL wintrolls,
> and hadron who constantly denies being one despite the evidence,
> depart for one month. Just one month and see if WE find it boring.
> Whether you find it boring is irrelevant because you have no place
> here."
>
> Then a day later he started the "who's up for a one month boycott"
> thread.
Kudos for the challenge, but I bet they won't be able to maintain it.
Someone suggested that Flatfish and nyms sold their house in Long
Island, NY.
Snit will be lonely without cc's company.
However, retaining the noobs Hadron and Snit will be a bargain as they
agree as in free beer, to work for next to nothing. Fortunately, Snit's
poor hard working wife still has the day care, to continue bringing in
the livelihood so Snit can troll.
--
HPT
Chris Ahlstrom
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
>
> You just can't stay away, can you, Quirk?
It is not DFS that predicted the nymshifting, though. It was Peter.
Not that that is much of a prediction. It's like predicting that
"Hadron" will find yet another poster to shit all over.
--
Your sister swims out to meet troop ships.
Freeballer
> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>
> Moshe
> cc
> Clogwog
> amicus_curious
> RayLopez
>
>
> years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt down from sheer boredom.
>
>
>
>
>
If you are indeed a troll here. Don't let the door hit you on the way
out. Althought I'm guessing "new" people may pop up (even though I
wouldn't know new from old at this point)
--
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guarantee our safety!' --John Crichton (Farscape)"
Hadron
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
>>
>> You just can't stay away, can you, Quirk?
>
> It is not DFS that predicted the nymshifting, though. It was Peter.
>
> Not that that is much of a prediction. It's like predicting that
> "Hadron" will find yet another poster to shit all over.
Is that how you feel? You? The man who calls people "Cunts" and
"Fuckheads" and who so publicly tried to humiliate and insult Jorge
Schilling amongst others? You reap what you sow young Liarsuck.
Had you not told so many lies about me not helping you with Nvidia and
me not using Debian little of what you said would have registered. But
listening to you prancing around and showing off about how IDEs are too
"slow and inefficient" for your 1337 needs and watching you shot down in
flames almost makes up for it. I see you are still to list the DDD
features which you "regularly use" that MS VS does not do : hardly
surprising since you use MS VS at work and NOT DDD. As Peter would say :
a more dishonest, vile and hypocritical poster would be hard to find.
We won't even mention you actually claiming (lying) that Moshe openly
laughed at the possibility of Peter's father dying. That was a true low
: even for you.
Sinister Midget
I don't know. Some of them might stick around. Like "fareena." Then
John the Führer can make another cameo appearnace and disappear,
leaving the new nyms in place.
--
Intellectual property has the shelf life of a banana.
-- The great prognosticator, Bill Gates
Sinister Midget III
> Your sister swims out to meet troop ships.
Not any more. She used to until they harpooned her.
Phil Da Lick!
That could be an interesting euphemism in so many ways :)
chrisv
>>
>> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
He predicted that you'd lie your ass off?
Well, that's like predicting that the sun will rise, asshole.
chrisv
> [drunken gibberish]
FFS Timmy. Stop drinking and go to bed.
Snit
11/16/09 5:17 AM:
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>
>>> Don't hurry your return on my account! BTW - I don't expect you to make
>>> it.
>>
>> They won't be able to.
>>
>> But it will be nice to have a garbage-free newsgroup for however long the
>> trolls' willpower holds out.
>>
>> And why didn't Snit join in this "boycott"?
>
> Might as well face it/
> He's addicted to trolling/
Why don't you stop posting for a month? *Your* explanation is you are
"addicted to trolling". Interesting.
I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring... HPT, S'mee, S.
Midget, Peter K�hlmann and others just freaking out... unable to speak about
Linux but just lashing out at those they know have proved them wrong.
They should be humiliated. Likely they are... but never will admit to it in
public.
What is it with COLA where the "advocates" are too afraid to speak about
Linux and instead feel the need to lie about those that do?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
6:36 AM:
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Amazing : it's panning out just how DFS predicted it would already.
>
> You just can't stay away, can you, Quirk?
Can you? I challenge you to stop posting for one month.
You will fail.
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Don Zeigler
> Can you? I challenge you to stop posting for one month.
I have no reason to stop posting for one month.
Now, I challenge you to not tell a single lie for one month. Hell, a single
*day* would suffice! LOL
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Don Zeigler
> I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring
But you read everything, didn't you, loser?
Snit is getting lonesome with most of his fellow trolls being absent.
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Snit
10:18 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring
>
> But you read everything, didn't you, loser?
Nope. Nice story, though. I guess.
> Snit is getting lonesome with most of his fellow trolls being absent.
Huh?
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Snit wrote:
>
>> I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring
>
> But you read everything, didn't you, loser?
>
> Snit is getting lonesome with most of his fellow trolls being absent.
He should go to the dentist and check out all the Reader's Digests.
--
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Snit
10:14 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Can you? I challenge you to stop posting for one month.
>
> I have no reason to stop posting for one month.
Yet you badger others when they make the same choice.
You are a hypocrite.
> Now, I challenge you to not tell a single lie for one month. Hell, a single
> *day* would suffice! LOL
I challenge you to find a single lie of mine you can quote from the last
month. Heck, make it two. Make it six.
Don Zeigler
> Huh?
Asphinctersayswhat?
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Snit
11/16/09 10:30 AM:
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring
>>
>> But you read everything, didn't you, loser?
>>
>> Snit is getting lonesome with most of his fellow trolls being absent.
>
> He should go to the dentist and check out all the Reader's Digests.
I must say... the "boycott" has barely begun and you and your fellow
"advocates" are proving how rabid you get. You do not care who you lash out
against... just as long as you lash out.
Why not rise above that and talk about Linux or even just technology? Heck,
politics would be better than they blind group-think you and several others
are engaging in today.
You really should be humiliated by your actions.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Don Zeigler
> Yet you badger others when they make the same choice.
There's one lie for the day.
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Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...User: The hardest-to-setup PC peripheral you can buy.
chrisv
>Shit wrote:
>>
>> Yet you badger others when they make the same choice.
>
>There's one lie for the day.
Hehe. When I read your previous post, I thought "I bet Shit's
response will contain a lie", and I was right!
Don Zeigler
> Hehe. When I read your previous post, I thought "I bet Shit's
> response will contain a lie", and I was right!
Counting on Snot to lie in a post is like counting on the sun to rise in the
east, or for the moon to orbit the earth. You can't miss.
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Snit
10:52 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Yet you badger others when they make the same choice.
>
> There's one lie for the day.
Nope. You clearly badgered Hadron for making the same choice you did - to
post to COLA.
You can and likely will deny this, but that does not change the fact that
you did. And in so doing you proved yourself a hypocrite.
Now, unless you actually can say something of value, get the last word.
Silly debates about *nothing* are boring. At least try to pick a topic to
debate if you want to keep getting my attention. And, yes, that is clearly
your goal.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Don Zeigler
> Nope.
Yep.
> You clearly badgered Hadron for making the same choice you did - to post
> to COLA.
So you don't continue to look like a complete idiot, I suggest you go
further back in the thread and acquaint yourself thoroughly with what's
going on.
--
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Don Zeigler
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
..."I never met a chocolate I didn't like." --Deanna Troi
Snit
11:27 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep.
>
>> You clearly badgered Hadron for making the same choice you did - to post
>> to COLA.
>
> So you don't continue to look like a complete idiot, I suggest you go
> further back in the thread and acquaint yourself thoroughly with what's
> going on.
Both you and Hadron have seen requests for you to stop posting.
Both of you have opted to continue posting.
OK. Not like either of you has to abide by any such request. Neither of
you is doing wrong by merely posting (which is not to say *what* you post
could not be wrong).
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
11:17 AM:
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> Hehe. When I read your previous post, I thought "I bet Shit's
>> response will contain a lie", and I was right!
>
> Counting on Snot to lie in a post is like counting on the sun to rise in the
> east, or for the moon to orbit the earth. You can't miss.
Yet you cannot find a single lie of mine.
Sorry to see you how incompetent you think you are.
In any case, care to talk about Linux or technology or, well, anything other
than just putting people down? Really... you should be ashamed.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Chris Ahlstrom
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep.
>
>> You clearly badgered Hadron ...
Good man, Don!
Personally, I think you should have wolverined him.
--
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Don Zeigler
> Really... you should be ashamed.
I'm afraid not. :-D
So, Michael, what flavor of Linux are you playing with these days, and so on
and so forth?
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Don Zeigler
> Personally, I think you should have wolverined him.
LOL
Maybe I should have possumed or racooned him.
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Snit
12:17 PM:
> Snit wrote:
>>>> Hehe. When I read your previous post, I thought "I bet Shit's response
>>>> will contain a lie", and I was right!
>>>>
>>> Counting on Snot to lie in a post is like counting on the sun to rise in the
>>> east, or for the moon to orbit the earth. You can't miss.
>>>
>> Yet you cannot find a single lie of mine.
>>
>> Sorry to see you how incompetent you think you are.
>>
>> In any case, care to talk about Linux or technology or, well, anything other
>> than just putting people down? Really... you should be ashamed.
>
> I'm afraid not. :-D
>
> So, Michael, what flavor of Linux are you playing with these days, and so on
> and so forth?
Mostly Ubuntu. One of the things that I am looking for is a reason to pull
me to destop Linux - something it offers that OS X does not. I run Windows
in virtualization and MS Office for Windows is better there, so that "pulls"
me to Windows... and I do screencasts for software that is only available
for Windows and Mac, but if I run Windows in a window I get a smaller screen
which works better for the screencasts. Sometimes I find a niche program or
something I want to run that requires Windows... so that pulls me back. Not
finding much that is done significantly better on desktop Linux. Sure -
software installation is easy and in some ways better (assuming the software
is in the repository). Have not run into unresolved dependency problems in
a while... but I find little there to draw me in. I play some online simple
games (Chess, Checkers, Backgammon) from time to time and find the ones in
the Ubuntu repository are pretty bad. OpenOffice is available for all three
OSs... and offers nothing I have found that my other options do not offer
and do as good or better of a job.
One of the best ways of learning a system is to use it... and one of the
best ways to use it is to find tasks it does significantly better than the
alternatives. For my purposes I am not finding much. Any ideas? I do a
fair amount of web design (both with pro tools and quick tools),
screencasting, VNCing, diagram building (network, rack, use-case, data-flow,
etc.) I also do basics that are done well on any OS: web surfing, FTP, RSS,
play music, edit text, etc.)
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Hadron
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>> You clearly badgered Hadron ...
>
> Good man, Don!
>
> Personally, Roy told me to think you should have wolverined him.
Corrected.
Don Zeigler
> One of the best ways of learning a system is to use it... and one of the
> best ways to use it is to find tasks it does significantly better than the
> alternatives. For my purposes I am not finding much. Any ideas? I do a
> fair amount of web design (both with pro tools and quick tools),
> screencasting, VNCing, diagram building (network, rack, use-case, data-flow,
> etc.) I also do basics that are done well on any OS: web surfing, FTP, RSS,
> play music, edit text, etc.)
I'm with you on Ubuntu, although I prefer Mint over the original. But I'll
agree with you on one big thing: in actual day to day usage, Linux really
does nothing significantly *better* for me than Windows 7. And I will be the
first to admit that on my last Mint installation I did have to run XP in a
VM for apps that have no equivalent in Linux.
As I type this, I am converting this physical Windows 7 setup into a virtual
machine, which I will plop into place under Mint once I reinstall it. Yes, I
have been running 7 exclusively for weeks now... regardless of what bad
reviews I've read I've found it to be a very good OS. But Linux is calling
my name again, so this weekend I'll be back using Mint with 7 running under
VMWare for the few Windows apps I need.
--
Regards,
Don Zeigler
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...Hell is full. The damned are now in Tech Support.
Snit
11/16/09 1:08 PM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> One of the best ways of learning a system is to use it... and one of the
>> best ways to use it is to find tasks it does significantly better than the
>> alternatives. For my purposes I am not finding much. Any ideas? I do a
>> fair amount of web design (both with pro tools and quick tools),
>> screencasting, VNCing, diagram building (network, rack, use-case, data-flow,
>> etc.) I also do basics that are done well on any OS: web surfing, FTP, RSS,
>> play music, edit text, etc.)
>
> I'm with you on Ubuntu, although I prefer Mint over the original. But I'll
> agree with you on one big thing: in actual day to day usage, Linux really
> does nothing significantly *better* for me than Windows 7. And I will be the
> first to admit that on my last Mint installation I did have to run XP in a
> VM for apps that have no equivalent in Linux.
Fair enough.
> As I type this, I am converting this physical Windows 7 setup into a virtual
> machine, which I will plop into place under Mint once I reinstall it. Yes, I
> have been running 7 exclusively for weeks now... regardless of what bad
> reviews I've read I've found it to be a very good OS. But Linux is calling
> my name again, so this weekend I'll be back using Mint with 7 running under
> VMWare for the few Windows apps I need.
Much of my work involves making screencasts for students - and those
screencasts have to be Windows or OS X. I could run Windows in a Linux VM,
as I do with OS X now, but I do not know of anything on Linux that even
comes close to ScreenFlow. Also like iWeb for *quick* updates on a personal
site... works very well, even if low on features (I do not need many). Also
use MS Office and Apple's iWork - both have compelling features. These are
the type things I am always hoping to find with Linux - something truly
compelling to pull me to it more. I want to want to use it... not just use
it to "play" and see what I can do. The more I do with it the better I will
learn it.
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Snit wrote:
>
>> One of the best ways of learning a system is to use it... and one of the
>> best ways to use it is to find tasks it does significantly better than the
>> alternatives. For my purposes I am not finding much. Any ideas? I do a
>> fair amount of web design (both with pro tools and quick tools),
>> screencasting, VNCing, diagram building (network, rack, use-case, data-flow,
>> etc.) I also do basics that are done well on any OS: web surfing, FTP, RSS,
>> play music, edit text, etc.)
>
> I'm with you on Ubuntu, although I prefer Mint over the original. But I'll
> agree with you on one big thing: in actual day to day usage, Linux really
> does nothing significantly *better* for me than Windows 7.
In my case, there is no way I'm going to give up the flexibility of the
Linux desktops and stick with the essentially crippled and confining Windows
desktop.
There is also no way I will put up with the slowness of console windows
under Windows (and Microsoft's console is the worst of them).
There is no way I'm going to stick with Microsoft's PowerShell, or spend all
my time in Cygwin using bash on Windows.
I don't know how Win 7 networking speed compares to Win XP's, but Linux has
always downloaded almost twice as fast whenever I've bothered to do
comparison timings (and I posted a link to a published report that pretty
much bore out my measurements.)
In other words, although the functionality of app-land is roughly similar
between the two platforms, for what I do, the Linux platform is simply
better and a lot more fun.
I don't have a "killer app". I have a killer platform!
And that's not considering the official and unofficial malware you have to
guard against on Windows, or the distasteful behavior of Microsoft in regard
not only to open standards, but in regard to civil dealings with other
companies who may compete with them.
That's just my take, but it means a lot to me.
--
Wagner's music is better than it sounds.
-- Mark Twain
Snit
11/16/09 1:48 PM:
> Don Zeigler pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> One of the best ways of learning a system is to use it... and one of the
>>> best ways to use it is to find tasks it does significantly better than the
>>> alternatives. For my purposes I am not finding much. Any ideas? I do a
>>> fair amount of web design (both with pro tools and quick tools),
>>> screencasting, VNCing, diagram building (network, rack, use-case, data-flow,
>>> etc.) I also do basics that are done well on any OS: web surfing, FTP, RSS,
>>> play music, edit text, etc.)
>>
>> I'm with you on Ubuntu, although I prefer Mint over the original. But I'll
>> agree with you on one big thing: in actual day to day usage, Linux really
>> does nothing significantly *better* for me than Windows 7.
>
> In my case, there is no way I'm going to give up the flexibility of the
> Linux desktops and stick with the essentially crippled and confining Windows
> desktop.
Do you have any examples where I am being "crippled" in my work? I cannot
think of any off hand... but maybe I am just so used to my workflow I am not
seeing it.
> There is also no way I will put up with the slowness of console windows
> under Windows (and Microsoft's console is the worst of them).
>
> There is no way I'm going to stick with Microsoft's PowerShell, or spend all
> my time in Cygwin using bash on Windows.
Well, I know I use the command line on OS X, not Windows.
> I don't know how Win 7 networking speed compares to Win XP's, but Linux has
> always downloaded almost twice as fast whenever I've bothered to do
> comparison timings (and I posted a link to a published report that pretty
> much bore out my measurements.)
Hmmm, that might be interesting to see... and something I likely would not
see in a VM setup. Still, even though I do plenty of uploading and
downloading, the difference in speed would have to be very substantial for
that to be a reason to change. Still, good thought - if true.
> In other words, although the functionality of app-land is roughly similar
> between the two platforms, for what I do, the Linux platform is simply
> better and a lot more fun.
Curious - what type work do you generally do?
> I don't have a "killer app". I have a killer platform!
Oh, Windows is too prone to getting malware - so if nothing else that is a
reason to use it in a VM or not at all.
> And that's not considering the official and unofficial malware you have to
> guard against on Windows, or the distasteful behavior of Microsoft in regard
> not only to open standards, but in regard to civil dealings with other
> companies who may compete with them.
>
> That's just my take, but it means a lot to me.
Fair enough. Excellent post - appreciate it.
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7
pounding the sock DFS wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil
Department of Marketing:
> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>
> Zeke
> Moshe
> cc
> Clogwog
> amicus_curious
> RayLopez
>
> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they
> don't.
Hopefully all the gay bars are also closed for those 30 days in the US of A.
Otherwise you dum dums are gonna be enjoying your holiday off asstroturfing
work. By the way I heard community work is being dished out to some of you
asstroturfing turds for 30 days. Any chance that all these events
are a coincidence?
Funny you don't mention John Fuhrer in your list.
May be its because its your own sock?
But you do mention Moshe - which just happens to be
another one of your own socks!
Have you gone barmy DFS?
ceed
> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>
> Zeke
> Moshe
> cc
> Clogwog
> amicus_curious
> RayLopez
>
> Hopefully Hadron and Tim Smith can join in, but I understand if they
> don't.
>
> The cola nutjobs have labeled us "trolls" and out of place and off-topic
> for
> years. Now their pretend advocacy group will melt down from sheer
> boredom.
>
> See you gentlemen again mid-December. Enjoy your time away!
>
>
> DFS
>
>
This must be the stupidest initiative yet: Boycott an unmoderated Usenet
news group! Who gives a shit? Will the boycott include sending blank
messages to the group, and maybe some snide Windows propaganda? Or is it
going to be total silence where the boycotters sit at their desk and think
about how this will change everything as we know it? OMG, this is almost
funny, almost. I can't wait to see the boycotters not post. There goes
Zeke not posting. Next out is Moshe not posting. The silence will be
deafening! :)
Btw, the boycott starts midnight on Nov 15. What time zone are we talking?
I don't wanna miss not missing the boycotters! :)
--
> <(((°> ceed
HARDFAIL("Not enough magic.")
Terry Porter
Most COLA Linux Advocates won't even notice if the trolls are gone, or
still here, because the trolls are are all *killfiled*.
It takes a troll 10x longer to create a new nym, than it does for us to
killfile it.
--
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Get your Free copy NOW! http://www.ubuntu.com/
RonB
> lol
> So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
> the meantime...
Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
post on COLA for... what reason?
(They get weirder every day, don't they?)
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
RonB
> Snit wrote:
>
>> I will say I scanned the forum today and it was boring
>
> But you read everything, didn't you, loser?
>
> Snit is getting lonesome with most of his fellow trolls being absent.
Fortunately I have Snit's posts killfiled -- so I'm a lot less bored
than he is. But if I had to read all his pablum I would be bored stiff, too.
Sinister Midget III
Other than watching the total number of messages not move much after
the filters go through them, I see little difference. I've even
filtered a couple of the worst feeders. So I won't even notice they
aren't responding to the trolls as much.
Maybe they'll decide to _really_ show us by extending it to 6 months.
Won't we be sorry then, by goshly!
--
Bungee Jumper? Catch you on the rebound.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Eee PC900 16G SSD 2G RAM Debian testing
Friends don't let friends use Windows
Chris Ahlstrom
> Goblin wrote:
>
>> lol
>> So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
>> the meantime...
>
> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
> post on COLA for... what reason?
>
> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
Well, we still have Snit wheedling and whining for attention, and "Hadron"
snarling pathetically in the background.
--
How do you ever get anything done with your tongue ticking Roy's
prostate? Can you use MS Visual Studio with your toes?
"Hadron", in a thread involving Snit, Don, and myself (no Roy in sight)
chrisv
> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> claimed:
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:50 -0600, ceed wrote:
>>>
>>> Btw, the boycott starts midnight on Nov 15. What time zone are we
>>> talking? I don't wanna miss not missing the boycotters! :)
>>
>> Most COLA Linux Advocates won't even notice if the trolls are gone, or
>> still here, because the trolls are are all *killfiled*.
>>
>> It takes a troll 10x longer to create a new nym, than it does for us to
>> killfile it.
>
>Other than watching the total number of messages not move much after
>the filters go through them, I see little difference. I've even
>filtered a couple of the worst feeders. So I won't even notice they
>aren't responding to the trolls as much.
>
>Maybe they'll decide to _really_ show us by extending it to 6 months.
>Won't we be sorry then, by goshly!
Well, I for one will admit to enjoy some troll flaming, in
moderation... 8)
Don Zeigler
> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
> post on COLA for... what reason?
>
> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
As I recall, the claim was made that this group would be practically devoid
of posts if not for them.
--
Regards,
Don Zeigler
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...Free the Bound Periodicals!
William Poaster
say:
> RonB pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> lol
>>> So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
>>> the meantime...
>>
>> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
>> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
>> post on COLA for... what reason?
>>
>> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
>
> Well, we still have Snit wheedling and whining for attention, and "Hadron"
> snarling pathetically in the background.
Snarling? He's been accused of whining & griping in aolu....but snarling,
no.... Yapping, perhaps?
--
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tool which wipes Windows from your PC in
seconds!
William Poaster
say:
> RonB wrote:
>
>> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
>> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
>> post on COLA for... what reason?
>>
>> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
>
> As I recall, the claim was made that this group would be practically devoid
> of posts if not for them.
Told you the wintrolls were delusional!
Sinister Midget
> Sinister Midget III wrote:
>>Maybe they'll decide to _really_ show us by extending it to 6 months.
>>Won't we be sorry then, by goshly!
>
> Well, I for one will admit to enjoy some troll flaming, in
> moderation... 8)
Flaming? Maybe. Engaging? To what end? If I want to hear repitition I
can go on a politcal board and listen to both sides say the same things
over and over. But there's really no point in bothering with a Sh1T or
a Queef. And there's nothing really to engage with a DuFuS. It's like
talking to someone with voices in their head (probably not /like/ that
case so much as it /is/ the case).
--
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.
Chris Ahlstrom
> there's really no point in bothering with a ... Queef.
LOL.
--
You will step on the night soil of many countries.
RonB
> RonB pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> lol
>>> So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
>>> the meantime...
>> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
>> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
>> post on COLA for... what reason?
>>
>> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
>
> Well, we still have Snit wheedling and whining for attention, and "Hadron"
> snarling pathetically in the background.
Yeah, but neither one of them can possibly get any weirder.
RonB
> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
> say:
>
>> RonB pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol
>>>> So the above Boycott COLA....I wonder if any "new" ones will pop up in
>>>> the meantime...
>>> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
>>> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
>>> post on COLA for... what reason?
>>>
>>> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
>> Well, we still have Snit wheedling and whining for attention, and "Hadron"
>> snarling pathetically in the background.
>
> Snarling? He's been accused of whining & griping in aolu....but snarling,
> no.... Yapping, perhaps?
Yapping goes well with yammering.
RonB
> RonB wrote:
>
>> Let me see if I've got this straight... WinTrolls are threatening *not*
>> to troll on COLA? And this is supposed to alarm those who use Linux and
>> post on COLA for... what reason?
>>
>> (They get weirder every day, don't they?)
>
> As I recall, the claim was made that this group would be practically devoid
> of posts if not for them.
I'll go for quality over quantity any day.
Snit
PM:
If by "weird" you mean not being the dishonest "norm" you clearly prefer
then this is a good thing. But, really, this whole "you are weird" BS is
just absurd... why not talk about Linux? Why spend so much time and energy
trying to change any topic away from Linux? Why not talk about Linux.
Seems it would be what an "advocate" would want to do... but so few do.
--
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chrisv
> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> claimed:
>>
>> Well, I for one will admit to enjoy some troll flaming, in
>> moderation... 8)
>
>Flaming? Maybe. Engaging? To what end? If I want to hear repitition I
>can go on a politcal board and listen to both sides say the same things
>over and over. But there's really no point in bothering with a Sh1T or
>a Queef. And there's nothing really to engage with a DuFuS.
That's why I plonk 'em. 8)
--
"Windows works for them - and by screaming at them that it doesn't
until you're blue in the face wont change a thing." - "True Linux
advocate" Hadron Quark
Ruel Smith
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:23:28 -0600, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to those who said they would join the boycott with me:
>>
>> Zeke
>> Moshe
>> cc
>> Clogwog
>> amicus_curious
>> RayLopez
>>
> news group! Who gives a shit?
Quite true. Newsgroups subscribers generally won't be affected by who
posts and who does not. There used to be some posters earlier that
were quite knowledgeable and entertaining, and some boring. I don't
see them anymore but life goes on. Similarly, boycott such as above
and/or boycott novell will barely affect anyone.