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TomB

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:13:13 PM8/2/08
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Hi there,

If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent replacement for
Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what you're looking for.

http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar

It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.

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Hadron

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:36:26 PM8/2/08
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TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi there,
>
> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent replacement for
> Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what you're looking for.
>
> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
>
> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.

Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the debian repositories
too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the one at the site says 1.0. The one in
the debian repository does not work:

/usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142: /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file
or directory

And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.

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TomB

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:45:42 PM8/2/08
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On 2008-08-02, Hadron wrote:
> TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent replacement for
>> Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what you're looking for.
>>
>> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
>>
>> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.
>
> Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the debian repositories
> too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the one at the site says 1.0. The one in
> the debian repository does not work:
>
> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142: /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file
> or directory
>
> And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.
>

That's odd. I was just doing some work in TuxGuitar on my own Debian
box (using Lenny 32bit here). Works just fine.

I just took a look at that line and it calls on the Jave environment
vars. Odd that it doesn't work for you...

I also have Guitar Pro running in wine. Works like a charm as well :-)

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Hadron

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Aug 2, 2008, 8:29:48 PM8/2/08
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TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:

Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar installer
has broken something.

But were you using the debian install or the downloaded version? Be
clear now.

TomB

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Aug 2, 2008, 8:49:58 PM8/2/08
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Ah, the Debian one over here.

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Tattoo Vampire

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Aug 2, 2008, 8:58:20 PM8/2/08
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Hadron wrote:

> Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar installer
> has broken something.

Either that, or you don't know what you're doing, or it's just another Quack
line of b.s. about "buggy" Debian.
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High Plains Thumper

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Aug 3, 2008, 5:18:21 AM8/3/08
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TomB wrote:
> Hadron wrote:
>> TomB writes:
>>> Hadron wrote:

>>>> TomB writes:
>>>>
>>>>> If you play the guitar and are looking for a decent
>>>>> replacement for Guitar Pro, TuxGuitar may be what
>>>>> you're looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't quite there yet, but it looks very promising.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. Looks nice. There is a tuxguitar in the
>>>> debian repositories too. its vsersion says 1.01 yet the
>>>> one at the site says 1.0. The one in the debian
>>>> repository does not work:
>>>>
>>>> /usr/bin/tuxguitar: line 142:
>>>> /usr/lib/java/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>> And yes, i do have the Sun JRE installed.
>>>>
>>> That's odd. I was just doing some work in TuxGuitar on my
>>> own Debian box (using Lenny 32bit here). Works just fine.
>>>
>>> I just took a look at that line and it calls on the Jave
>>> environment vars. Odd that it doesn't work for you...
>>>
>>> I also have Guitar Pro running in wine. Works like a charm
>>> as well :-)
>>
>> Java in debian is f*cked up. I suspect the debian tuxguitar
>> installer has broken something.
>>
>> But were you using the debian install or the downloaded
>> version? Be clear now.
>
> Ah, the Debian one over here.

Synaptic:

[quote]
Mark additional changes?

v To be installed
libtext-java
libswt3.2-gtk-java
libswt3.2-gtk-jni

[X Cancel [V Mark]
[/quote]

Tuxguitar installed and runs fine, no crashes, no error messages.
Perhaps if our diminutive atomic sub particle had properly
installed it per directions, it would have worked without error.

But what would you expect?

Debian Stable is one of the most widely used distros for mission
critical applications and where one wants minimal impact to
production work. Very few require bleeding edge software to be
productive.

Yet Hadron insists that Debian Stable is full of bugs and too
backward for usage:

Subject: Re: [News] Sister OS to Linux, OS-X Has Better TCO than
Microsoft Windows
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:50:07 +0100
Message-ID: fr08c1$9e1$2...@registered.motzarella.org

[quote]
> Hadron has an apparent inability to recognise how more
> consistent usage of Debian Stable will only help his usage
> of the product, preferring unstable versions of Debian; if not
> for the only reason as an opportunity to attack Linux/OSS.

Once more for the hard of brain power : I use testing. Not
unstable. And I use it for a reason - Debian Stable is simply too
buggy and backward and I cant be arsed to manage pinning or
selectively monitoring backports.
[/quote]

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Homer

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Aug 4, 2008, 2:26:47 AM8/4/08
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Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:
> On 2008-08-03, Hadron wrote:

>> Java in debian is f*cked up.

Trust Hardon the slavering retard to fuck up something so simple.

If you choose to ignore your distro's repos and install upstream
packages from Sun, then naturally you're going to have to manually
configure those packages. Try removing Sun's package from /opt and
install Debian's package where it's supposed to be instead.

> Ah, the Debian one over here.

Yes, the rest of us do actually know what we're doing. I don't think
anyone seriously expects Hardon to ever get anything right.

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William Poaster

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Aug 4, 2008, 6:15:21 AM8/4/08
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:26:47 +0100, Homer wrote:

> Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:
>> On 2008-08-03, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Java in debian is f*cked up.
>
> Trust Hardon the slavering retard to fuck up something so simple.
>
> If you choose to ignore your distro's repos and install upstream packages
> from Sun, then naturally you're going to have to manually configure those
> packages. Try removing Sun's package from /opt and install Debian's
> package where it's supposed to be instead.
>
>> Ah, the Debian one over here.
>
> Yes, the rest of us do actually know what we're doing. I don't think
> anyone seriously expects Hardon to ever get anything right.

Of course not, Quack's already *proved* he's totally incompetent when it
comes to linux. According to that idiot troll, Linux didn't exist 10
years ago!

<quote>
Surely you are not comparing the non-existent Linux (at that time) with
(Windows)98?
<unquote>
Hadron Quark - Thu, 16 Aug 2007
Message-ID: <npk5rvz...@homelinux.net>


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Mark Kent

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Aug 4, 2008, 8:53:43 AM8/4/08
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William Poaster <w...@leafnode.amd64.eu> espoused:

Well, 17 years ago, anyway... the first posting was in 1991, I believe,
so it's now about 17 years old, although in generally usable form,
probably < 10 years. The first few years were pre-installs only,
specific uses, and technical people focussed, although for basic web &
email, linux has been highly usable for over 10 years.

Can we get him accelerated around this:

http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/large-hadron-collider-best-tec.html

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Moshe Goldfarb.

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Aug 4, 2008, 10:47:22 AM8/4/08
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:26:47 +0100, Homer wrote:

> Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:
>> On 2008-08-03, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Java in debian is f*cked up.
>
> Trust Hardon the slavering retard to fuck up something so simple.
>
> If you choose to ignore your distro's repos and install upstream
> packages from Sun, then naturally you're going to have to manually
> configure those packages. Try removing Sun's package from /opt and
> install Debian's package where it's supposed to be instead.
>
>> Ah, the Debian one over here.
>
> Yes, the rest of us do actually know what we're doing. I don't think
> anyone seriously expects Hardon to ever get anything right.

Java is screwed up even under Windows.
It's a horrible experience from the end users POV.

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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

TomB

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Aug 4, 2008, 12:15:03 PM8/4/08
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On 2008-08-04, Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:
>> On 2008-08-03, Hadron wrote:
>
>>> Java in debian is f*cked up.
>
> Trust Hardon the slavering retard to fuck up something so simple.
>
> If you choose to ignore your distro's repos and install upstream
> packages from Sun, then naturally you're going to have to manually
> configure those packages. Try removing Sun's package from /opt and
> install Debian's package where it's supposed to be instead.
>
>> Ah, the Debian one over here.
>
> Yes, the rest of us do actually know what we're doing. I don't think
> anyone seriously expects Hardon to ever get anything right.
>

Well, I'll be the last one to say you can only use the official Debian
repos to keep a sane system, using lots of different sources for my
packages myself. But you must be prepared to things breaking, and some
manual config to solve it.

Knowing how to use apt helps a lot also.

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Hadron

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Aug 4, 2008, 12:21:49 PM8/4/08
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TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2008-08-04, Homer wrote:
>> Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:
>>> On 2008-08-03, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>>> Java in debian is f*cked up.
>>
>> Trust Hardon the slavering retard to fuck up something so simple.
>>

I will post one from random:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tuxguitar/+bug/212207

>> If you choose to ignore your distro's repos and install upstream
>> packages from Sun, then naturally you're going to have to manually
>> configure those packages. Try removing Sun's package from /opt and
>> install Debian's package where it's supposed to be instead.
>>
>>> Ah, the Debian one over here.
>>
>> Yes, the rest of us do actually know what we're doing. I don't think
>> anyone seriously expects Hardon to ever get anything right.
>>

Oh alright, heres another one:

http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/forum/5/684/tuxguitar-start-exception/

>
> Well, I'll be the last one to say you can only use the official Debian
> repos to keep a sane system, using lots of different sources for my
> packages myself. But you must be prepared to things breaking, and some
> manual config to solve it.

In this case the manually installed one worked. The debian one not.

See link above.

>
> Knowing how to use apt helps a lot also.

I installed it using synaptic. There is nothing to know. On my system
with eclipse installed it simply did not work.

once again : see the link above.

Homer

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Aug 5, 2008, 5:54:23 AM8/5/08
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Verily I say unto thee, that TomB spake thusly:

> Well, I'll be the last one to say you can only use the official

> Debian repos to keep a sane system, using lots of different sources
> for my packages myself. But you must be prepared to things breaking,
> and some manual config to solve it.

I believe that when Java is installed in /opt one has to set and export
the JAVA_HOME variable to point to that location before Java dependants
can locate it. I presume Sun's package doesn't do that, but it's been a
while since I messed around with the upstream version, since I've been
using GNU gcj until comparatively recently, when IcedTea was released.

> Knowing how to use apt helps a lot also.

If Hardon can make the effort to download and install upstream packages,
then he should certainly be able to use something relatively simple like
apt.

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K.
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.----
| By bucking Microsoft for open source, says Gunderloy, "I'm no
| longer contributing to the eventual death of programming."
| ~ http://www.linux.com/feature/142083
`----

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