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Roy Culley

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:21:58 PM10/7/06
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This report covers 2579 articles received by this system to
newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy [1]

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Toplist of Posters

Pos Poster Msgs Bytes Quoted
1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 450 486101 29%
2. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 158 121175 59%
3. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 154 312512 80%
4. The Ghost In The Machine <ew...@sirius.tg00suus 112 216683 48%
5. flatfish - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 104 123196 66%
6. Peter Köhlmann <Peter.K...@t-online.de> 92 103836 74%
7. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> 64 402113 15%
8. DooFuS - LIAR / WINTROLL / RACIST 63 62432 61%
9. Ewik 'the Weasel' Funkenbusch [4] 52 67512 52%
10. ed <e...@noreply.com> 49 63765 54%
11. Scott Nudds - TROLL / IDIOT 45 125618 7%
12. billwg - WINTROLL / LIAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 44 64538 52%
13. Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> 42 55066 33%
B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> 42 32587 51%
15. spi...@freenet.co.uk 41 29140 58%
16. Rick <no...@nomail.com> 40 51208 79%
17. Tim 'Funkenbusch Wannabee' Smith 39 30149 33%
18. yttrx <yt...@yttrx.net> 37 52482 76%
19. [H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> 36 51293 41%
20. John Bailo - TROLL / IDIOT 35 21557 29%
21. Handover Phist <ja...@jason.websterscafe.com> 34 45258 76%
22. BearItAll <sp...@rassler.co.uk> 33 63608 53%
23. Oliver Wong - MS Apologist 32 63621 41%
Larry 'arsehole' Qualig 32 70573 56%
25. Jim <ja...@the-computer-shop.co.uk> 31 42236 58%
26. Rex Ballard <rex.b...@gmail.com> 29 158501 21%
27. William Poaster <w...@suseoss101.eu> 26 31827 71%
Sinister Midget <phydeaux@manly_mail.net> 26 26426 46%
29. JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> 25 36124 67%
30. 7 <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> 23 26776 54%
High Plains Thumper <h...@singlecylinderbikes.co 23 57685 46%
32. nymsh...@salmahayeksknockers.edu - TROLL 21 9287 49%
33. mwatters_...@hotmail.com - WINTROLL 18 20266 49%

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Toplist of Subjects

Pos Subject Msgs Bytes
1. Linux: You've GOT to be kidding me. 111 121273
2. The"Biggest Target" paradigm and its consequence 71 84619
3. Vista Will Exterminate Desktop Linux Once And For 65 89763
4. Where's the "one click exploit" for Linux? 54 80446
5. LONG [News Digest] Linux News Digest for the 24hrs 50 421049
6. Microsoft 'taking security risks' 43 84062
7. Call for Faults of Linux & Linux Distributions 34 62221
8. Linux - the easy to use OS 32 30165
Windopes Just Isn't Worth The Time because It Is T 32 39808
[News] Vista to take hard stand against piracy 32 69468
11. Gentoo -- is it good? 31 40117
LinTards vanish as VISTA reality sets in 31 48308
13. US State Department fear bugged computers made in 30 38662
Why did the cola kooks miss these? 30 24759
15. We desperately need to replace Windows in PC Games 29 34368
Linux/OSS: ASSUME THE POSITION 29 29505
17. The trouble with OpenSource is .. 28 36636
[News] Mandriva Buys Company 28 36456
19. [News] Mozilla Firefox Tops Internet Explorer for 27 34608
20. Linux Users are free from This! 26 32696
Life without a Window Manager 26 29258
Zune Wi-Fi Deems Worthless 26 23748
23. Slack 11 released *today* with 2.4x kernel from 20 25 35343
24. Out now: Vista RC2 24 29652
25. PCLinuxOS .93 Big Daddy? A Piece Of Shit!!!!! 23 95883
Apple got it right, Microsoft got it wrong 23 44601
Microsoft's Most Respectable Shills and FUDMeister 23 36675
Linux Kernel Binary Weakness 23 23028
29. Hey Erik: THAT FIREFOX SECURITY HOLE IS A HOAX 22 17166
FAQ and Primer for COLA, Edition III 22 20369
31. Will Vusta be pirate proof? 21 22177
A new release 21 43129
33. [News] 64.4% of E-mail is SPAM (Thanks, Linux!) 20 28010

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Toplist of Most Replied To Posters

Pos Poster Msgs
1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 229
2. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 117
3. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 108
4. flatfish - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 95
5. DooFuS - LIAR / WINTROLL / RACIST 88
6. Peter Köhlmann <Peter.K...@t-online.de> 80
7. Ewik 'the Weasel' Funkenbusch [4] 72
8. The Ghost In The Machine <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> 63
9. B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> 50
10. Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> 42
11. yttrx <yt...@yttrx.net> 40
12. billwg - WINTROLL / LIAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 38
mwatters_...@hotmail.com - WINTROLL 38
14. Tim 'Funkenbusch Wannabee' Smith 35
15. ed <e...@noreply.com> 34
16. Handover Phist <ja...@jason.websterscafe.com> 33
Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> 33
18. Larry 'arsehole' Qualig 32
19. John Bailo - TROLL / IDIOT 29
spi...@freenet.co.uk 29
21. BearItAll <sp...@rassler.co.uk> 28
22. Jim <ja...@the-computer-shop.co.uk> 25
23. Rick <no...@nomail.com> 24
nymsh...@salmahayeksknockers.edu - TROLL 24
25. Oliver Wong - MS Apologist 23
[H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> 23
Sinister Midget <phydeaux@manly_mail.net> 23
28. High Plains Thumper <h...@singlecylinderbikes.com> 22
Meat Plow - IDIOT 22
Richard Rasker <spam...@linetec.nl> 22
31. Flatfish Nyms - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 21
32. 7 <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> 20
33. Rex Ballard <rex.b...@gmail.com> 19

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Toplist of Troll Feeders [2]

Pos Poster Msgs %
1. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 86 54
2. Peter Köhlmann <Peter.K...@t-online.de> 64 70
3. The Ghost In The Machine <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> 38 34
4. Rick <no...@nomail.com> 31 78
5. flatfish - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 30 29
6. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 29 19
7. ed <e...@noreply.com> 19 39
spi...@freenet.co.uk 19 46
yttrx <yt...@yttrx.net> 19 51
10. B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> 18 43
11. JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> 14 56
Handover Phist <ja...@jason.websterscafe.com> 14 41
13. Rex Ballard <rex.b...@gmail.com> 13 45
Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> 13 31
High Plains Thumper <h...@singlecylinderbikes.com> 13 57
John Bailo - TROLL / IDIOT 13 37
17. Jesse F. Hughes <je...@phiwumbda.org> 12 80
Tim 'Funkenbusch Wannabee' Smith 12 31
DooFuS - LIAR / WINTROLL / RACIST 12 19
20. Jim <ja...@the-computer-shop.co.uk> 11 35
Larry 'arsehole' Qualig 11 34
22. Ian Hilliard <nos...@hilliardtech.com> 10 77
BearItAll <sp...@rassler.co.uk> 10 30
24. 7 <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> 9 39
chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> 9 90
Jim Richardson <war...@eskimo.com> 9 75
27. 'ultranerd' Bob 8 57
28. Chris Wilkinson <blob...@defeatspam.now> 7 88
Geico Caveman <sp...@spam.invalid> 7 70
ray <r...@zianet.com> 7 54
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 7 2
tha...@tux.glaci.remove-this.com 7 70
Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> 7 64

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Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]

Pos Poster Index
1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 122
2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> 79
3. [H]omer <sp...@uce.gov> 67
4. Sinister Midget <phydeaux@manly_mail.net> 64
Richard Rasker <spam...@linetec.nl> 64
6. ml2mst <ml2...@linuxmail.org> 62
7. The Ghost In The Machine <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> 61
8. B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> 60
9. William Poaster <w...@suseoss101.eu> 59
10. Au79 <au...@789.edu> 58
Jerry McBride <mcbr...@comcast.net> 58
12. Rex Ballard <rex.b...@gmail.com> 54
13. Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> 53
14. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 52
15. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjar...@ncoldns.com> 51
BearItAll <sp...@rassler.co.uk> 51
NoStop <nos...@nospam.com> 51
18. z <news0...@mailnull.com> 50
Paul Hovnanian P.E. <pa...@hovnanian.com> 50
George Ellison <notam...@nerdshack.com> 50
Sean Inglis <ing...@gmail.com> 50
Jamie Hart <use...@jhart.ath.cx> 50
Aquila Deus <aquil...@gmail.com> 50
Johan Lindquist <sp...@smilfinken.net> 50
yttrx <yt...@yttrx.net> 50
26. arachnid <no...@goawayspammers.com> 48
Peter Hayes <not_i...@btinternet.com> 48
ed <e...@noreply.com> 48
29. Jim <ja...@the-computer-shop.co.uk> 47
30. Gordon <gordon.bur...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> 46
spi...@freenet.co.uk 46
alt <spam...@lazyeyez.net> 46
33. High Plains Thumper <h...@singlecylinderbikes.com> 42

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Toplist of X-No-Archive Posters

Pos Poster Msgs
1. Meat Plow - IDIOT 17
2. Leythos <vo...@nowhere.lan> 8
3. flatfish - TROLL / THIEF / LIAR / RACIST 6
4. Technomage Hawke <technoma...@127.0.0.1> 5
5. Grand Moff Robert Buchanan <gran...@deathstar.galacticempi 2
6. Keith <ke...@invalid.invalid> 1

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Toplist of Newsreaders

Pos Newsreader Msgs
1. KNode 758
2. slrn 475
3. G2/1.0 197
4. Gnus 178
Microsoft Outlook Express 178
6. Pan 116
7. tin 111
8. Shysterwitch version 0.99.18.41.03.21-a 102
9. Thunderbird 78
10. 40tude_Dialog 57
11. Mozilla 54
12. Sylpheed 49
13. knews 42
14. MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.1 (Intel Mac OS X) 34
15. Xnews 25
16. Forte Agent 24
pan 0.113 (SuSE linux edition) 24
18. Halime (Mac OS X 10.4.8 (PPC)) 16
19. MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.70.2067 8
20. pan 0.115 (debian) 2
pan 0.105 (When Churchill opened the door, it was a new car, a 2
trn 2
23. Shysterwitch version 0.99.18.41.03.21-.a 1
MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X) 1
pan 0.115 (Mrs. Kerr Says Remember the Tip Jar) 1
MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1
NewsMan Pro 1.5 (Freeware) 1
Forte Free Agent 1
Unison/1.6.2 1

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[1]: Posts via mail to news gateways are dropped by this server
and hence not included in the stats.
Other attention seeking posters may not appear as well.
[2]: Troll feeder %'age is (troll feeding posts / total posts) * 100
[3]: The poster 'quality' stats is based on:
a) quoting: 100 - %'age quoted
b) cross-posting: 100 - %'age cross-posted
c) number of direct followups posters articles get
d) troll feeding: 100 - 1.5 * %'age troll followups
e) 75 deducted for known trolls
f) for the humour impaired the quotes around 'quality'
are intended to convey they are not to be taken too
seriously :-)
g) for Erik: it is highly unlikely, although perhaps
possible, for a troll to appear in the 'quality' stats
[4]: Erik Funkenbusch is a MS apologist, frequent liar and FUD
spreader and seriously lacking in ethical values. He often
tries to change the subject when his argument has been torn
to shreds or, more likely, just runs away.

weasel n. [Cambridge] A naive user, one who deliberately
or accidentally does things that are stupid or ill-advised.
Roughly synonymous with loser


--
Security is one of those funny things. You can talk about being "more"
secure, but there's no such thing. A vulnerability is a vulnerability, and
even one makes you just as insecure as anyone else. Security is a binary
condition, either you are or you aren't. - Funkenbusch 1 Oct 2006

Hadron Quark

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:39:39 PM10/7/06
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r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:

> ngstats.pl version 1.19
>
> This report covers 2579 articles received by this system to
> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy [1]
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Toplist of Posters
>
> Pos Poster Msgs Bytes Quoted

> 1. Roy Schestowitz <spammeister> 450 486101
> 29%

Possibly you could include a statistic about how many posts conform to
the charter? e.g to advocate Linux. All I see from most people here is
anti-Windows rabid jeering.

> Toplist of Most Replied To Posters
>
> Pos Poster Msgs
> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 229
> 2. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE
> 117

Interesting.

>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Toplist of Troll Feeders [2]
>
> Pos Poster Msgs %
> 1. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 86 54
> 2. Peter Köhlmann <Peter.K...@t-online.de> 64
> 70

Snigger.

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>
> Pos Poster Index
> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 122
> 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
> 79

ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
right ...

> [1]: Posts via mail to news gateways are dropped by this server
> and hence not included in the stats.
> Other attention seeking posters may not appear as well.
> [2]: Troll feeder %'age is (troll feeding posts / total posts) * 100
> [3]: The poster 'quality' stats is based on:
> a) quoting: 100 - %'age quoted
> b) cross-posting: 100 - %'age cross-posted
> c) number of direct followups posters articles get
> d) troll feeding: 100 - 1.5 * %'age troll followups
> e) 75 deducted for known trolls

LOL. As impartial as ever.

> f) for the humour impaired the quotes around 'quality'
> are intended to convey they are not to be taken too
> seriously :-)
> g) for Erik: it is highly unlikely, although perhaps
> possible, for a troll to appear in the 'quality' stats
> [4]: Erik Funkenbusch is a MS apologist, frequent liar and FUD
> spreader and seriously lacking in ethical values. He often
> tries to change the subject when his argument has been torn
> to shreds or, more likely, just runs away.

s/Erik Funkenbusch is a MS/The COLA gang is a Linux

>
> weasel n. [Cambridge] A naive user, one who deliberately
> or accidentally does things that are stupid or ill-advised.
> Roughly synonymous with loser

Certainly a lot more technically savvy than your charismatic leader Roy
"narcissistic" Kent.

--
One size fits all.

B Gruff

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Oct 7, 2006, 7:59:40 PM10/7/06
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On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:39 Hadron Quark wrote:

>> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>>
>> Pos Poster Index
>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 122
>> 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
>> 79
>
> ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
> right ...

Just going back to a comment that you made a little while ago re. Roy S. and
his employers - am I to understand that the opinions that you yourself
express here are the official ones of CERN?

Roy Culley

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:08:49 PM10/7/06
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<4oqtamF...@individual.net>,

Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN? Bog
cleaning aside that is.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:07:48 PM10/7/06
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B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

There is a big difference between COLA pisstaking, arguing and general
banter to spreading downright lies and FUD about a major corporation.

If you cant see that, well bad luck you.

Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:20:37 PM10/7/06
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__/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 01:08 \__

> begin risky.vbs
> <4oqtamF...@individual.net>,
> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:39 Hadron Quark wrote:
>>
>>>> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>>>>
>>>> Pos Poster
>>>> Index
>>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com>
>>>> 122 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
>>>> 79
>>>
>>> ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
>>> right ...
>>
>> Just going back to a comment that you made a little while ago
>> re. Roy S. and his employers - am I to understand that the opinions
>> that you yourself express here are the official ones of CERN?
>
> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN? Bog
> cleaning aside that is.

If he worked at CERN he would be using/advocating GNU/Linux* like the rest of
the company rather than rave about his XP AV software. And no... dabbling in
Linux a few months ago wouldn't count.

What this guy needs is less work with hadron quarks at CERN and a little more
medication. His posts have proven him to be a psychopath who should be
accommodated in a secure cell for a while, along with his fish. And, yes, I
see their posts because people reply to them and quote.

*Or BSD, or UNIX.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:21:19 PM10/7/06
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r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:

> begin risky.vbs
> <4oqtamF...@individual.net>,
> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:39 Hadron Quark wrote:
>>
>>>> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>>>>
>>>> Pos Poster Index
>>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 122
>>>> 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
>>>> 79
>>>
>>> ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
>>> right ...
>>
>> Just going back to a comment that you made a little while ago
>> re. Roy S. and his employers - am I to understand that the opinions
>> that you yourself express here are the official ones of CERN?
>
> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN? Bog
> cleaning aside that is.

One thing you can be sure of, I certainly do not post from CERN. Nothing
hypocritical at all I'm afraid.

Isn't it funny though that two of the most "shocked" posters who
complain the most about imagined "personal attacks" are, not
surprisingly none other that two of the rudest, most insulting,
paranoid, tin foil donning loony tunes that I've had the pleasure of
meeting in 'net land. Step forward Peter and Roy Culley : your efforts
are recognised.

--
ignoranus, n.:
A person who's both stupid and an asshole.

B Gruff

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:25:39 PM10/7/06
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OK you two - so riddle-me-this....

...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in his
headers?
- simple enough question?:-)

Hadron Quark

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Oct 7, 2006, 8:26:16 PM10/7/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:

> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 01:08 \__
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <4oqtamF...@individual.net>,
>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:39 Hadron Quark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>>>>>
>>>>> Pos Poster
>>>>> Index
>>>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com>
>>>>> 122 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
>>>>> 79
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
>>>> right ...
>>>
>>> Just going back to a comment that you made a little while ago
>>> re. Roy S. and his employers - am I to understand that the opinions
>>> that you yourself express here are the official ones of CERN?
>>
>> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN? Bog
>> cleaning aside that is.
>
> If he worked at CERN he would be using/advocating GNU/Linux* like the rest of
> the company rather than rave about his XP AV software. And no... dabbling in
> Linux a few months ago wouldn't count.

What are you talking about? Are you imagining things again? What XP AV
SW? Where do I "advocate" XP? You guys make it up as you go along.

>
> What this guy needs is less work with hadron quarks at CERN and a little more
> medication. His posts have proven him to be a psychopath who should be

Psychopath? Just because you are one doesn't make you qualified to
diagnose the unfortunate condition Roy. Get back to copying peoples
links and posting them here : your fans are waiting.

> accommodated in a secure cell for a while, along with his fish. And,
> yes, I

I don't have a fish. Are you hallucinating again?

> see their posts because people reply to them and quote.

As usual. Head in sand, ass in air.

>
> *Or BSD, or UNIX.

Or Windows XP. Or NT. Or Windows 2000. Or VMS.

--
Danger: do not shake.

Roy Culley

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:01:05 PM10/7/06
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<1751817.e...@schestowitz.com>,

Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 01:08 \__
>
>> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN?
>> Bog cleaning aside that is.
>
> If he worked at CERN he would be using/advocating GNU/Linux* like
> the rest of the company rather than rave about his XP AV
> software. And no... dabbling in Linux a few months ago wouldn't
> count.

Very true. I doubt he even knows what a hadron is far less its
relationship to quarks.

> What this guy needs is less work with hadron quarks at CERN and a
> little more medication. His posts have proven him to be a psychopath
> who should be accommodated in a secure cell for a while, along with
> his fish.

Well I've classified him as imbecile in the stats. Seems the most apt
to me.

> And, yes, I see their posts because people reply to them and quote.

I only see the replies as well unless I kill by [sub]thread. knews
also lets me look at the idiots posts if I really want to.

Roy Culley

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:04:49 PM10/7/06
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Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)

Roy Culley

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Oct 7, 2006, 9:07:12 PM10/7/06
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<4oqurbF...@individual.net>,

Yup. I obviously work there as well.

Linonut

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Oct 7, 2006, 10:09:50 PM10/7/06
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Culley belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> ngstats.pl version 1.19
>
> This report covers 2579 articles received by this system to
> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy [1]
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Toplist of Posters
>
> Pos Poster Msgs Bytes Quoted
> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 450 486101 29%
> 2. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 158 121175 59%
> 3. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 154 312512 80%

Great. I beat out an imbecile.

Mark Kent

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:56:19 AM10/8/06
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Linonut <lin...@bone.com> espoused:

Hehe - yes you did!

--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
In which level of metalanguage are you now speaking?

Mark Kent

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:59:17 AM10/8/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:

> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 01:08 \__
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <4oqtamF...@individual.net>,
>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 00:39 Hadron Quark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Toplist of 'Quality' Posters [3]
>>>>>
>>>>> Pos Poster
>>>>> Index
>>>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com>
>>>>> 122 2. Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk>
>>>>> 79
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL. The COLA gang : where mutual masturbation is a ritual, not a
>>>> right ...
>>>
>>> Just going back to a comment that you made a little while ago
>>> re. Roy S. and his employers - am I to understand that the opinions
>>> that you yourself express here are the official ones of CERN?
>>
>> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN? Bog
>> cleaning aside that is.
>
> If he worked at CERN he would be using/advocating GNU/Linux* like the rest of
> the company rather than rave about his XP AV software. And no... dabbling in
> Linux a few months ago wouldn't count.

Cern had one of the best Gophers on the net, all those years ago, just
before Tim Berners-Lee came up with the web. As Cern's key personnel
are physicists, I cannot imagine them not comprehending open-source, as
it essentially follows scientific method in its development model.
Also, as scientists are always short of investment cash, then reducing
spend in this way would make sense.

>
> What this guy needs is less work with hadron quarks at CERN and a little more
> medication. His posts have proven him to be a psychopath who should be
> accommodated in a secure cell for a while, along with his fish. And, yes, I
> see their posts because people reply to them and quote.
>
> *Or BSD, or UNIX.

Me too.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 4:15:54 AM10/8/06
to
r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:

> begin risky.vbs
> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>
>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>> his headers?
>> - simple enough question?:-)
>
> Yup. I obviously work there as well.

Come on lads, you can do better than the usual gang up stuff. We all
know what can be forged in headers : Peter does it all the time to
pretend he uses Linux.

--
"And spellchecker won;t help." : Roy Schwestowitz from comp.os.linux.advocacy.

Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 8, 2006, 4:28:05 AM10/8/06
to
Roy Culley wrote:

> begin risky.vbs
> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>
>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>> his headers?
>> - simple enough question?:-)
>
> Yup. I obviously work there as well.
>

One should ask them if they condone the continuous insults and lies
their "employee" Hadron Quark does here in cola
After all, he tries to give the impression that he is affiliated with the
CERN
--
Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product.

Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:11:46 AM10/8/06
to
__/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:01 \__

> begin risky.vbs
> <1751817.e...@schestowitz.com>,
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
>> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 01:08 \__
>>
>>> Do you really believe that an imbecile like quark works at CERN?
>>> Bog cleaning aside that is.
>>
>> If he worked at CERN he would be using/advocating GNU/Linux* like
>> the rest of the company rather than rave about his XP AV
>> software. And no... dabbling in Linux a few months ago wouldn't
>> count.
>
> Very true. I doubt he even knows what a hadron is far less its
> relationship to quarks.
>
>> What this guy needs is less work with hadron quarks at CERN and a
>> little more medication. His posts have proven him to be a psychopath
>> who should be accommodated in a secure cell for a while, along with
>> his fish.
>
> Well I've classified him as imbecile in the stats. Seems the most apt
> to me.
>
>> And, yes, I see their posts because people reply to them and quote.
>
> I only see the replies as well unless I kill by [sub]thread. knews
> also lets me look at the idiots posts if I really want to.

__/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:04 \__

> Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
> never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)

I wonder if that header was deliberately added (or passively so). I don't see
how Supernews would have contact with the posting node (or your house).

Best wishes,

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:18:52 AM10/8/06
to
__/ [ Peter Köhlmann ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 09:28 \__

> Roy Culley wrote:
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>>
>>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>>> his headers?
>>> - simple enough question?:-)
>>
>> Yup. I obviously work there as well.
>>
>
> One should ask them if they condone the continuous insults and lies
> their "employee" Hadron Quark does here in cola
> After all, he tries to give the impression that he is affiliated with the
> CERN

No, he tries to give the impression that he is not an imbecile as the label
suggests. I am utterly amazed that he uses his time in this way. If posting
insults and leading to disruption in (what to him) are inappropiate
newsgroups is CERN's thing, then he truly reflects on his employer's spirit.

Best wishes,

Roy

--
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Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:20:10 AM10/8/06
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__/ [ Mark Kent ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 06:56 \__

> begin oe_protect.scr
> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> espoused:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Culley belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> ngstats.pl version 1.19
>>>
>>> This report covers 2579 articles received by this system to
>>> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy [1]
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Toplist of Posters
>>>
>>> Pos Poster Msgs Bytes Quoted
>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 450 486101 29%
>>> 2. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 158 121175 59%
>>> 3. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 154 312512 80%
>>
>> Great. I beat out an imbecile.
>>
>
> Hehe - yes you did!

Me too.

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http://Schestowitz.com | Free as in Free Beer Ś PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:42:48 AM10/8/06
to
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:

> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 06:56 \__
>
>> begin oe_protect.scr
>> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> espoused:
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Culley belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> ngstats.pl version 1.19
>>>>
>>>> This report covers 2579 articles received by this system to
>>>> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy [1]
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Toplist of Posters
>>>>
>>>> Pos Poster Msgs Bytes Quoted
>>>> 1. Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> 450 486101 29%
>>>> 2. Linonut <lin...@bone.com> 158 121175 59%
>>>> 3. Hadron Quark - IMBECILE 154 312512 80%
>>>
>>> Great. I beat out an imbecile.
>>>
>>
>> Hehe - yes you did!
>
> Me too.

Me too.

--
Naeser's Law:
You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:42:22 AM10/8/06
to
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:

> __/ [ Peter Köhlmann ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 09:28 \__
>
>> Roy Culley wrote:
>>
>>> begin risky.vbs
>>> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
>>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>>>
>>>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>>>> his headers?
>>>> - simple enough question?:-)
>>>
>>> Yup. I obviously work there as well.
>>>
>>
>> One should ask them if they condone the continuous insults and lies
>> their "employee" Hadron Quark does here in cola
>> After all, he tries to give the impression that he is affiliated with the
>> CERN
>
> No, he tries to give the impression that he is not an imbecile as the label
> suggests. I am utterly amazed that he uses his time in this way. If posting
> insults and leading to disruption in (what to him) are inappropiate
> newsgroups is CERN's thing, then he truly reflects on his employer's
> spirit.

Roy, you can twist all you like : but the truth is in google. You are
the one making unsubstantiated lies & slander.

As for leading to "disruption", I wonder for your sanity at times.

>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roy

B Gruff

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:52:45 AM10/8/06
to
On Sunday 08 October 2006 09:15 Hadron Quark wrote:

> r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:
>
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>>
>>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>>> his headers?
>>> - simple enough question?:-)
>>
>> Yup. I obviously work there as well.
>
> Come on lads, you can do better than the usual gang up stuff. We all
> know what can be forged in headers : Peter does it all the time to
> pretend he uses Linux.

Oh yes, of course they can be forged - but you see the "damned if you do,
damned if you don't" in all this?

In effect, you accuse Roy of bringing a University into disrepute. I don't
think that he does that anyway, but you claim that he does, by posting in
NGs and "associating" the university with his postings by his headers.

YOU are either associated with (work for etc) CERN or you are not.

- if you DO work there, you are doing exactly what you accuse Roy of.

- if you do NOT, it's actually imo WORSE! You (by your own reckoning) are
bringing CERN into disrepute, and you actually have NO association with
them!

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 6:08:42 AM10/8/06
to
B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> On Sunday 08 October 2006 09:15 Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>> r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:
>>
>>> begin risky.vbs
>>> <4oqurbF...@individual.net>,
>>> B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>>>> On Sunday 08 October 2006 01:20 Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK you two - so riddle-me-this....
>>>>
>>>> ...if he does NOT work at CERN, why is he using their good name in
>>>> his headers?
>>>> - simple enough question?:-)
>>>
>>> Yup. I obviously work there as well.
>>
>> Come on lads, you can do better than the usual gang up stuff. We all
>> know what can be forged in headers : Peter does it all the time to
>> pretend he uses Linux.
>
> Oh yes, of course they can be forged - but you see the "damned if you do,
> damned if you don't" in all this?
>
> In effect, you accuse Roy of bringing a University into disrepute. I don't
> think that he does that anyway, but you claim that he does, by posting in
> NGs and "associating" the university with his postings by his headers.
>
> YOU are either associated with (work for etc) CERN or you are not.

When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN? You guys are
crazy. You took my header to a pet project which I include just to boost
peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the other. Get a life.

>
> - if you DO work there, you are doing exactly what you accuse Roy of.
>

No I am not : because I am not accusing a company of maliciously
damaging peoples HW. Unless you can prove otherwise I suggest you change
the channel.

> - if you do NOT, it's actually imo WORSE! You (by your own reckoning) are
> bringing CERN into disrepute, and you actually have NO association with
> them!
>

Tell me, everytime Roy posts a link is he associating himself with being
an employee? Dont be such an ass.

--
Check it out, send me comments, and dance joyously in the streets,
-- Linus Torvalds announcing 2.0.27

flatfish+++

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Oct 8, 2006, 9:56:40 AM10/8/06
to
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:52:45 +0100, B Gruff wrote:


> In effect, you accuse Roy of bringing a University into disrepute. I don't
> think that he does that anyway, but you claim that he does, by posting in
> NGs and "associating" the university with his postings by his headers.

If he reads the Universities rules he will see that using their computer
systems for other than schoolwork could get him dismissed.

Now in reality, no University is going to do that for the typical student
surfing the net at night looking up coin collecting or downloading some
mp3's from iTunes.

However, Roy is not the typical student.
He is in charge of fresher week after all!

Roy is using the University computers to spew 1000's of messages to USENET
every month which is WAY, WAY, WAY beyond a little personal use.

And while the school may have a newserver they encourage students to use
for research, what Roy is doing is of a personal nature and in effect as
far as the school is concerned (computer time) he may as well be running a
spam bot sending "get rich quick" ponsai schemes all over the net.


> YOU are either associated with (work for etc) CERN or you are not.

Who cares?

Why do you guys go on witch hunts all the time?

flatfish+++

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Oct 8, 2006, 9:59:21 AM10/8/06
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:08:42 +0200, Hadron Quark wrote:


> When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN? You guys are
> crazy. You took my header to a pet project which I include just to boost
> peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the other. Get a life.


The people in the group, the Linux advocates ARE crazy and getting crazier
by the day.

Maybe it's the inevitable release of Vista or maybe it's because deep down
they know that Linux, as far as a desktop system, has failed to gain a
significant user base all the time that MS had no products to release
since Windows XP was first released.

IOW Linux as a desktop system has failed.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 10:51:32 AM10/8/06
to
flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> writes:

I was sceptical about some of your claims in the earlier days : but its
very apparent that some of the COLA gang have lost all touch with
reality. There is a big difference between questioning motives and
claims about Windows than openly accusing a major corporation of
purposely damaging peoples HW as Roy has claimed.

You will also notice that I have never claimed to work for CERN (even
though I have worked as a consultant for them in the past).

Why these nuts seem intent on bringing everything down to a personal
level is beyond me. One of my new sigs aptly demonstrates the COLA
hypocrisy.

--
You are a vile asshole, flatfish. : Peter Köhlmann, COLA.

Roy Culley

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:29:07 AM10/8/06
to
begin risky.vbs
<1465296.a...@schestowitz.com>,
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:01 \__

>
>> Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
>> never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)
>
> I wonder if that header was deliberately added (or passively so). I
> don't see how Supernews would have contact with the posting node (or
> your house).

I added it as does Quark. See message ID <878xjq9...@geemail.com>.
He posts through individual.net which certainly isn't going to add the
header. The guys a fraud amongst his other failings.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:34:57 AM10/8/06
to
r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:

> begin risky.vbs
> <1465296.a...@schestowitz.com>,
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
>> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:01 \__
>>
>>> Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
>>> never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)
>>
>> I wonder if that header was deliberately added (or passively so). I
>> don't see how Supernews would have contact with the posting node (or
>> your house).
>
> I added it as does Quark. See message ID <878xjq9...@geemail.com>.
> He posts through individual.net which certainly isn't going to add the
> header. The guys a fraud amongst his other failings.

You need to get out more Roy.

If you spent half as much time advocating as you do leading witch hunts
and tarring posters with stupid names like "Imbecile" then you'd do a
lot more for your cause.

Actually, I must admit one thing : I totally forgot that header as I
tend not to display such minutiae in gnus - but thanks for pointing it
out. It's time I changed it to a more recent project.

John A. Bailo

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:45:08 AM10/8/06
to
Hadron Quark wrote:

> Why these nuts seem intent on bringing everything down to a personal
> level is beyond me.

Is "nuts" a professional term that you use with your colleagues over at
CERN?

--
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http://texeme.com
Camping Pics: http://www.texeme.com/Deschutes.html

John A. Bailo

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:48:41 AM10/8/06
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Hadron Quark wrote:


> You need to get out more Roy.

Earlist 10/08 post from Hadron Quark:

01:13am (PST)

Recnt post from Hadron Quark:

08:34am

7 hours solid trolling.

10/07 Posts

Earliest:

04:35 am

Last for that day:

05:34 pm

13 hours solid trolling(!)

Simon, you need to get out more often.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:50:08 AM10/8/06
to
"John A. Bailo" <jab...@texeme.com> writes:

> Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>> Why these nuts seem intent on bringing everything down to a personal
>> level is beyond me.
>
> Is "nuts" a professional term that you use with your colleagues over at
> CERN?

I don't work at CERN. Its Roy doing his Inspector Clouseau again.

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 11:51:25 AM10/8/06
to
"John A. Bailo" <jab...@texeme.com> writes:

> Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>
>> You need to get out more Roy.
>
> Earlist 10/08 post from Hadron Quark:
>
> 01:13am (PST)
>
> Recnt post from Hadron Quark:
>
> 08:34am
>
> 7 hours solid trolling.
>
> 10/07 Posts
>
> Earliest:
>
> 04:35 am
>
> Last for that day:
>
> 05:34 pm
>
> 13 hours solid trolling(!)
>
> Simon, you need to get out more often.

It's called multitasking Jack : you should try it. Linux does it very
well :-;


--
'Mounting' is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a
hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, mounting during sex.
-- Christa Keil

John A. Bailo

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Oct 8, 2006, 12:08:44 PM10/8/06
to
Hadron Quark wrote:

> It's called multitasking Jack : you should try it. Linux does it very
> well :-;

Atom smashing with the left hand; nntp posting with the right.

Roy Culley

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Oct 8, 2006, 12:14:52 PM10/8/06
to
begin risky.vbs
<p8KdnUHvioRLgLTY...@speakeasy.net>,

"John A. Bailo" <jab...@texeme.com> writes:
> Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>> You need to get out more Roy.
>
> Earlist 10/08 post from Hadron Quark:
>
> 01:13am (PST)
>
> Recnt post from Hadron Quark:
>
> 08:34am
>
> 7 hours solid trolling.
>
> 10/07 Posts
>
> Earliest:
>
> 04:35 am
>
> Last for that day:
>
> 05:34 pm
>
> 13 hours solid trolling(!)

You should look at the times of some of Erik's posts. Especially
when replying to Roy S.

> Simon, you need to get out more often.

Funny you should say that. Quark does remind me a lot of SCOoke. :-)

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 12:40:27 PM10/8/06
to
r...@nodomain.none (Roy Culley) writes:

> begin risky.vbs
> <p8KdnUHvioRLgLTY...@speakeasy.net>,
> "John A. Bailo" <jab...@texeme.com> writes:
>> Hadron Quark wrote:
>>
>>> You need to get out more Roy.
>>
>> Earlist 10/08 post from Hadron Quark:
>>
>> 01:13am (PST)
>>
>> Recnt post from Hadron Quark:
>>
>> 08:34am
>>
>> 7 hours solid trolling.
>>
>> 10/07 Posts
>>
>> Earliest:
>>
>> 04:35 am
>>
>> Last for that day:
>>
>> 05:34 pm
>>
>> 13 hours solid trolling(!)
>
> You should look at the times of some of Erik's posts. Especially
> when replying to Roy S.
>
>> Simon, you need to get out more often.
>
> Funny you should say that. Quark does remind me a lot of SCOoke. :-)

I don't know who SCOoke is, but funny enough my "real world" name is Simon.

--
Close cover before striking.

Mark Kent

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Oct 8, 2006, 12:54:35 PM10/8/06
to
begin oe_protect.scr
Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> espoused:

> begin risky.vbs
> <1465296.a...@schestowitz.com>,
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
>> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:01 \__
>>
>>> Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
>>> never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)
>>
>> I wonder if that header was deliberately added (or passively so). I
>> don't see how Supernews would have contact with the posting node (or
>> your house).
>
> I added it as does Quark. See message ID <878xjq9...@geemail.com>.
> He posts through individual.net which certainly isn't going to add the
> header. The guys a fraud amongst his other failings.
>

Well, I would imagine that such behaviour is a necessity in order to be
an astroturfer. If that behaviour were not required, there would not be
any astroturfers anyway!

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 1:13:58 PM10/8/06
to
Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> writes:

> begin oe_protect.scr
> Roy Culley <r...@nodomain.none> espoused:
>> begin risky.vbs
>> <1465296.a...@schestowitz.com>,
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> writes:
>>> __/ [ Roy Culley ] on Sunday 08 October 2006 02:01 \__
>>>
>>>> Well bugger me, my last post shows I'm at CERN as well. Funny I've
>>>> never bumped into any Mr. Quark if you get my drift. :-)
>>>
>>> I wonder if that header was deliberately added (or passively so). I
>>> don't see how Supernews would have contact with the posting node (or
>>> your house).
>>
>> I added it as does Quark. See message ID <878xjq9...@geemail.com>.
>> He posts through individual.net which certainly isn't going to add the
>> header. The guys a fraud amongst his other failings.
>>
>
> Well, I would imagine that such behaviour is a necessity in order to be
> an astroturfer. If that behaviour were not required, there would not be
> any astroturfers anyway!

Look everyone! More Linux advocacy from Mark Kent! Oh. Sorry. My mistake
: just more finger pointing and heretic burning.

I'm pretty sure he dresses in black, wears buckled shoes and clutches a
Linux bible....

--
Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients.

Linonut

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Oct 8, 2006, 3:20:12 PM10/8/06
to
After takin' a swig o' grog, flatfish+++ belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> If he reads the Universities rules he will see that using their computer
> systems for other than schoolwork could get him dismissed.
>

> And while the school may have a newserver they encourage students to use
> for research, what Roy is doing is of a personal nature and in effect as
> far as the school is concerned (computer time) he may as well be running a
> spam bot sending "get rich quick" ponsai schemes all over the net.

Reminds me of when Bill Gates used Harvard's computer center and
resources to handle his business.

--
Press "Any" key to continue.

Linonut

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Oct 8, 2006, 3:31:11 PM10/8/06
to
After takin' a swig o' grog, flatfish+++ belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:08:42 +0200, Hadron Quark wrote:


>
>
>> When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN? You guys are
>> crazy. You took my header to a pet project which I include just to boost
>> peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the other. Get a life.
>
> The people in the group, the Linux advocates ARE crazy and getting crazier
> by the day.

Maybe. What I see happening is an influx of even crazier Wintrolls. If
they aren't playing a game, then I say we have some pretty strange
anti-Linux posters here.

> Maybe it's the inevitable release of Vista or maybe it's because deep down
> they know that Linux, as far as a desktop system, has failed to gain a
> significant user base all the time that MS had no products to release
> since Windows XP was first released.
>
> IOW Linux as a desktop system has failed.

Wrong. Linux as a desktop system is doing a great job. The best
distros offer an experience only a Win-crazed user could complain about.

Now, as a killer of the consumer Windows marketing and distribution
machine, Linux has failed.

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Peter Kai Jensen

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Hadron Quark wrote:

>> Oh yes, of course they can be forged - but you see the "damned if you
>> do, damned if you don't" in all this?
>>
>> In effect, you accuse Roy of bringing a University into disrepute. I
>> don't think that he does that anyway, but you claim that he does, by
>> posting in NGs and "associating" the university with his postings by
>> his headers.
>>
>> YOU are either associated with (work for etc) CERN or you are not.
>
> When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN?

RFC 1036, section 2.2.8:

| 2.2.8. Organization
|
| The text of this line is a short phrase describing the organization to
| which the sender belongs, or to which the machine belongs. The intent
| of this line is to help identify the person posting the message, since
| host names are often cryptic enough to make it hard to recognize the
| organization by the electronic address.

That being said, some ISPs (like mine) insert their own Organization
header, but then I am posting through their system. You are not posting
through CERNs systems and have no affiliation with them, but you are
giving people the impression that you are affiliated. That's somewhat
dishonest.

> You guys are crazy. You took my header to a pet project which I
> include just to boost peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the
> other. Get a life.

If you truly wanted to generate exposure, why not add the link to your
signature, where there is actually a chance that most people would see
it. Saying this is the reason for adding it to your Organization header
is dubious at best.

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PeKaJe

BOFH Excuse #14:
Sounds like a Windows problem, try calling Microsoft support

Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 5:03:31 PM10/8/06
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Peter Kai Jensen <use...@pekajemaps.homeip.net> writes:

> Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>>> Oh yes, of course they can be forged - but you see the "damned if you
>>> do, damned if you don't" in all this?
>>>
>>> In effect, you accuse Roy of bringing a University into disrepute. I
>>> don't think that he does that anyway, but you claim that he does, by
>>> posting in NGs and "associating" the university with his postings by
>>> his headers.
>>>
>>> YOU are either associated with (work for etc) CERN or you are not.
>>
>> When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN?
>
> RFC 1036, section 2.2.8:
>
> | 2.2.8. Organization
> |
> | The text of this line is a short phrase describing the organization to
> | which the sender belongs, or to which the machine belongs. The intent
> | of this line is to help identify the person posting the message, since
> | host names are often cryptic enough to make it hard to recognize the
> | organization by the electronic address.
>
> That being said, some ISPs (like mine) insert their own Organization
> header, but then I am posting through their system. You are not posting
> through CERNs systems and have no affiliation with them, but you are
> giving people the impression that you are affiliated. That's somewhat
> dishonest.

It could be construed so, I agree. That was not my intention.

>
>> You guys are crazy. You took my header to a pet project which I
>> include just to boost peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the
>> other. Get a life.
>
> If you truly wanted to generate exposure, why not add the link to your
> signature, where there is actually a chance that most people would see
> it. Saying this is the reason for adding it to your Organization header
> is dubious at best.

To be honest I forgot it was there : I will suspend it. I dont see org
headers as I filter most out unnecessary headers with Gnus. A lot of
people, like Pete Köhlmann, fake headers to give the impression they are
Linux users but are really only here to detract from true Linux
advocacy.

Anyway, as it happens I once did work for them : but that isn't the point.

Regardless, its gone now.

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Tim Smith

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Oct 8, 2006, 6:07:57 PM10/8/06
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In article <k9udnQ-39qAXv7TY...@speakeasy.net>,

"John A. Bailo" <jab...@texeme.com> wrote:
>
> Atom smashing with the left hand; nntp posting with the right.

"The left hand's diddling, while the right hand goes to work".

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Tim Smith

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Oct 8, 2006, 6:09:08 PM10/8/06
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In article <-pqdnRsttudizLTY...@comcast.com>,

Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
> Maybe. What I see happening is an influx of even crazier Wintrolls. If
> they aren't playing a game, then I say we have some pretty strange
> anti-Linux posters here.

The group is in effect a Windows discussion group, so this is not
surprising. Half the posts, or more, have nothing to do with Linux.

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Hadron Quark

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Oct 8, 2006, 6:12:53 PM10/8/06
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Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> writes:

A quick peruse of Roy's posts shows that he is more concerned with
Windows than he is with Linux.

Linonut

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Oct 8, 2006, 8:38:22 PM10/8/06
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out this bit o' wisdom:

Except that Hadron can't find his ass with both hands.

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Linonut

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Oct 8, 2006, 8:41:27 PM10/8/06
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> In article <-pqdnRsttudizLTY...@comcast.com>,
> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
>> Maybe. What I see happening is an influx of even crazier Wintrolls. If
>> they aren't playing a game, then I say we have some pretty strange
>> anti-Linux posters here.
>
> The group is in effect a Windows discussion group, so this is not
> surprising.

You seem to be confusing cause and effect here.

> Half the posts, or more, have nothing to do with Linux.

I, for one, would prefer more talk of the glories of Linux. But too
many here want to trash it in order to boost Windows. And many cannot
resist arguing back. I know I cannot, most of the time.

Then again, part of the charter here is to attract the nuisances from
other newsgroups.

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-- Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft

Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 8, 2006, 8:47:18 PM10/8/06
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__/ [ Linonut ] on Monday 09 October 2006 01:41 \__

Hadron,

I see what you write to me when people reply. It's repugnant. For that you
deserve some ASCII art.

........................./´¯/)
......................,/¯..//
...................../..../ /
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
........('(...´(..´......,~/'...')
.........\.................\/..../
..........''...\.......... _.·´
............\..............(
..............\.............\

Grow up or start speaking about ideas rather than about people, character and
rants against them. Additionally, use your peabrain to realise it's a Linux
advocacy group. Bahave accordingly.

Tim Smith

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Oct 8, 2006, 9:44:46 PM10/8/06
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In article <QvidnVxYiZQqB7TY...@comcast.com>,

Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
> > The group is in effect a Windows discussion group, so this is not
> > surprising.
>
> You seem to be confusing cause and effect here.
>
> > Half the posts, or more, have nothing to do with Linux.
>
> I, for one, would prefer more talk of the glories of Linux. But too
> many here want to trash it in order to boost Windows.

But it's also the other way around. For example, there is a horrible
flaw in the *physical* security of Diebold voting machines, allowing one
to tamper with the memory card on which votes are stored. This has
nothing to do with the OS that the machines run, and has *nothing*
*whatsoever* to do with COLA.

Nevertheless, someone posts that here, and tries to imply that it is
Windows fault. With "advocates" posting lies like that, it is no
surprise Windows fans are going to come and argue with them (along with
Linux fans who dislike people lying in the name of Linux).

> And many cannot resist arguing back. I know I cannot, most of the
> time.

That's because you have fun arguing. You can double that fun by taking
a stand for honesty. Don't let the Windows people get away with
crap--but don't let the Linux people get away with crap, either. Argue
with both of them when they are wrong! It's OK to both like Linux and
recognize that 7 is an idiot, for example.

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DFS

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flatfish+++ wrote:

> The true advocate speaks.
>
> What an a-hole you are Roy.
> No wonder you aggravate the police so much they don't take your claims
> seriously when you got involved in that brawl in the bar.
>
> BTW all your Microsoft bashing is NOT Linux advocacy and if there is
> anyone more off topic in this group, at least based upon quantity,
> it's YOU.


He's another Internet freakshow, like Rex Ballard, who can't resist putting
and living his life on the Internet.

http://schestowitz.com/sitemap.htm


Notice anything about his 'can't hear you say anything bad about Linux
'cause my head is up my ass' killfile
http://www.schestowitz.com/Wiki_Public/index.php?COLA%20killfile ? It
doesn't include those most half-ass of "advocates": Peter Kohlmann, William
Poaster, Roy Culley, Mark Kent, 7, etc.

Can you imagine the type of inane person who would rather read a cola post
by 7 than one by Erik Funkenbusch?

Tim Smith

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Oct 9, 2006, 1:31:09 AM10/9/06
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In article <FckWg.54980$vX5....@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,

"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
> Notice anything about his 'can't hear you say anything bad about Linux
> 'cause my head is up my ass' killfile
> http://www.schestowitz.com/Wiki_Public/index.php?COLA%20killfile ? It
> doesn't include those most half-ass of "advocates": Peter Kohlmann, William
> Poaster, Roy Culley, Mark Kent, 7, etc.
>
> Can you imagine the type of inane person who would rather read a cola post
> by 7 than one by Erik Funkenbusch?

If anyone needed proof Roy S is not a Linux advocate, that page is it.
A real Linux advocate wants to see every post from Erik, and from Larry
Qualig, and from Tom Shelton, among others, in order to be able to
answer them. You don't advocate Linux by letting the people that
occasionally make good anti-Linux points go unanswered.

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Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 9, 2006, 1:41:09 AM10/9/06
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Tim Smith wrote:

Except none of those make "good anti-linux points"
None of them knows linux from a tin-can of sand
With Erik F for example you can be sure that he is completely full of it
when he claims something about linux. He is totally clueless about it
And DFS? Well, he is DFS. DumbFullShit. His "name" is program
Msg-ID Larry is just another clueless nimwit.
You can continue that list until your own name, and the pattern does not
change. None of you guys make any good anti-linux points
--
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but we always respect their good judgement.

Mark Kent

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Linonut <lin...@bone.com> espoused:

> After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> In article <-pqdnRsttudizLTY...@comcast.com>,
>> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
>>> Maybe. What I see happening is an influx of even crazier Wintrolls. If
>>> they aren't playing a game, then I say we have some pretty strange
>>> anti-Linux posters here.
>>
>> The group is in effect a Windows discussion group, so this is not
>> surprising.
>
> You seem to be confusing cause and effect here.
>

Nah, he's just trying to justify his posts, even though he knows very
well that the charter is brutally clear. There are windows advocacy
groups, of course, and this is not one.

--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |

The difference between a lawyer and a rooster is that
the rooster gets up in the morning and clucks defiance.

Tim Smith

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Oct 9, 2006, 3:29:56 AM10/9/06
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In article <ut7pv3-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk>,

Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> The group is in effect a Windows discussion group, so this is not
> >> surprising.
> >
> > You seem to be confusing cause and effect here.
> >
>
> Nah, he's just trying to justify his posts, even though he knows very
> well that the charter is brutally clear. There are windows advocacy
> groups, of course, and this is not one.

I'm not the one posting Windows a bunch of Windows articles here. You
know that, of course, since you spend half your time playing cheerleader
encouraging those very posts.

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Hadron Quark

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Oct 9, 2006, 3:38:44 AM10/9/06
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Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> writes:

Half his time?

Mark Kent spends half his time here posting "you're stupid" posts and
insisting he is looking for "intelligent debate" and the rest knocking
Windows. I can not recall the last time he posted an on topic discussing
any aspect of Linux. His "me too" schill posts to Roy's spam don't count
since invariably its merely "good post Roy" back tickling.

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Rick

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Oct 9, 2006, 6:08:33 AM10/9/06
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 09:59:21 -0400, flatfish+++ wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:08:42 +0200, Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>

>> When did I ever claim I was associated with CERN? You guys are crazy.


>> You took my header to a pet project which I include just to boost
>> peoples exposure and you insinuate one from the other. Get a life.
>
>

> The people in the group, the Linux advocates ARE crazy and getting crazier
> by the day.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

>
> Maybe it's the inevitable release of Vista or maybe it's because deep down
> they know that Linux, as far as a desktop system, has failed to gain a
> significant user base all the time that MS had no products to release
> since Windows XP was first released.

Network effects,

>
> IOW Linux as a desktop system has failed.

Only in you mind.

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Linonut

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Oct 9, 2006, 7:11:36 AM10/9/06
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Tim Smith belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> That's because you have fun arguing. You can double that fun by taking

> a stand for honesty. Don't let the Windows people get away with
> crap--but don't let the Linux people get away with crap, either.

You make a good point, but there is too much crap to cover it all.

Always remember, silence is not consent here.

> Argue with both of them when they are wrong! It's OK to both like
> Linux and recognize that 7 is an idiot, for example.

7 is cool. He is the unabashed insulter of Win-idiots that I've
decided, for the sake of my calmness, not to be.

chrisv

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Oct 9, 2006, 9:07:15 AM10/9/06
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>I see what you write to me when people reply. It's repugnant. For that you
>deserve some ASCII art.
>
>........................./´¯/)
>......................,/¯..//
>...................../..../ /
>............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
>........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
>........('(...´(..´......,~/'...')
>.........\.................\/..../
>..........''...\.......... _.·´
>............\..............(
>..............\.............\

LOL

chrisv

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Oct 9, 2006, 11:30:38 AM10/9/06
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flatfish+++ wrote:

>What an a-hole you are Roy.

Considering that you're a pathological liar, flatshit, we can surmise
that indeed Roy is NOT an a-hole.

The Ghost In The Machine

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
<newsg...@schestowitz.com>
wrote
on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:47:18 +0100
<5208956.E...@schestowitz.com>:

Erm, this is a mild critique on the art, but it got
horribly mangled over here, presumably because of a
proportional font issue. :-) Not that it matters; I get
the gist of it anyway.

Hopefully Hadron does too.

(There should be a FAQ on this, but faqs.org doesn't have an
entry for alt.ascii-art. :-) )

As for Linux glories -- I'll admit, I frankly don't know
what the heck that means in this context, except that Linux
simply, quietly, and nicely works, whereas Windows wants
to be noisy about it and occasionally likes to throw curve
balls when one really expected a simple, straight response.

For the most part, as no system is 100% perfect. But Linux
meets 99% of my needs right now, computerwise.

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