Windows 7 is not Microsoft's savior but the instrument of their demise!
Anonymous
If Microsoft starts to sell Windows 7 on Netbooks then they will have to charge full price for it. Mark Shuttleworth is upset since Microsoft is currently dumping Windows XP to stem the Linux tide on Netbooks. They will not be able to do so with Windows 7 since that will mean much lower licensing for their full-size notebooks as well. They are between a rock and a hard place, it seems.
So instead of Microsoft looking forward to Windows 7 they should actually be looking at it with dread.
Windows 7, I hate it ALREADY!!!!
DFS
It's too early for you to declare your hate for the next MS operating system
that will again make Linux look like the slopware it really is, and will
again make the world forget what little they care about Linux, and will
continue to relegate Linux to the place it deserves to be: dead last.
Rob Schwenk
> It's too early for you to declare your hate for the next MS operating system
> that will again make Linux look like the slopware it really is, and will
> again make the world forget what little they care about Linux, and will
> continue to relegate Linux to the place it deserves to be: dead last.
Slopware? You mean slopware like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7842013.stm
The "Autoplay" function in Vista and early versions of Windows 7
automatically searches for programs on removable drives.
However, the virus hijacks this process, masquerading as a folder to
be opened. When clicked, the worm installs itself.
It then attempts to contact one of a number of web servers, from which
it could download another program that could take control of the
infected computer.
Now that's slopware. The day Linux behaves like this I'll buy a MAC. I
can't see that day coming as windows is insecure by design.
Linux is by design far more secure. MS have missed the boat again.
Instead of trying to hack security onto a bad design they should have
dropped the windows OS and do what Apple did. Windows 7 - too little too
late.
DFS
> DFS wrote:
>
>
>> It's too early for you to declare your hate for the next MS
>> operating system that will again make Linux look like the slopware
>> it really is, and will again make the world forget what little they
>> care about Linux, and will continue to relegate Linux to the place
>> it deserves to be: dead last.
>
> Slopware? You mean slopware like this:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7842013.stm
>
> The "Autoplay" function in Vista and early versions of Windows 7
> automatically searches for programs on removable drives.
>
> However, the virus hijacks this process, masquerading as a folder to
> be opened. When clicked, the worm installs itself.
>
> It then attempts to contact one of a number of web servers, from
> which it could download another program that could take control of
> the infected computer.
>
> Now that's slopware. The day Linux behaves like this I'll buy a MAC.
The hell you will. The day something similar to that happens on Linux will
be the day you rationalize it away.
"There is a security hole in all versions of linux-2.6 distributed by
Debian, including Etch's kernel. The attached exploit code can be used to
test if a kernel is vulnerable, it starts a root shell."
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464953
"Anders Kaseorg discovered that ndiswrapper did not correctly handle long
ESSIDs. For a system using ndiswrapper, a physically near-by attacker could
generate specially crafted wireless network traffic and execute arbitrary
code with root privileges. (CVE-2008-4395)"
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-662-1
> I can't see that day coming as windows is insecure by design.
> Linux is by design far more secure.
This is true, but it's not difficult to secure Windows to a degree that lets
you relax and surf safely.
> MS have missed the boat again.
> Instead of trying to hack security onto a bad design they should have
> dropped the windows OS and do what Apple did.
Why would they do that? They have dozens of products that run on Windows.
Such a move would be a financial disaster.
> Windows 7 - too little too late.
Too little, too late for what? It's going to smack Linux down - hard -
again, just as every Windows version since 95 has. And you and cola and all
the crapware OpenOffice programmers in China can't do a damn thing about it
but sit back and watch and whine.
High Plains Thumper
[quote]
Reported by: William Pitcock <nen...@sacredspiral.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:33:02 UTC
Severity: critical
Tags: patch, security
Merged with 464945, 465246
Found in versions 2.6.18.dfsg.1-17etch1, 2.6.22-3-generic, 2.6.17-1
Fixed in versions 2.6.24-4, 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1, 2.6.22-6.lenny1
Done: Bastian Blank <wa...@debian.org>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
[/quote]
Bug was fixed some time ago.
> "Anders Kaseorg discovered that ndiswrapper did not correctly
> handle long ESSIDs. For a system using ndiswrapper, a
> physically near-by attacker could generate specially crafted
> wireless network traffic and execute arbitrary code with root
> privileges. (CVE-2008-4395)"
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-662-1
The bulletin describes the fix, upgrade to a more recent image:
[quote]
The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the
following package versions: Ubuntu 8.10:
linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic 2.6.27-7.16
linux-image-2.6.27-7-server 2.6.27-7.16
linux-image-2.6.27-7-virtual 2.6.27-7.16 After a standard system
upgrade you need to reboot your computer to effect the necessary
changes.
[/quote]
>> I can't see that day coming as windows is insecure by
>> design. Linux is by design far more secure.
>
> This is true, but it's not difficult to secure Windows to a
> degree that lets you relax and surf safely.
This is an example of:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
32. Promote Windows at every opportunity. Microsoft Windows
needs a lot of help to be successful in the mind share of its
targeted user base. Point out to everybody on COLA how wonderful
it is. Ignore the meaning of the name of the newsgroup and its
charter.
[/quote]
If Windows is so secure, then why was this concern created?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/20/win7_autoplay_weakness/
[quote]
Conficker Autoplay ruse gets teeth into Windows 7
VXers still ahead of the game
By John Leyden
Posted in Security, 20th January 2009 13:38 GMT
Social engineering autoplay tricks work on early versions of
Windows 7 as well as Vista, according to tests by security
researchers.
AutoPlay trickery
As well as spreading by exploiting a weeks-old Microsoft
vulnerability, the Conficker (Downadup) worm attempts to spread
across network shares and to infect removable drives, using a
special malformed autorun.inf file.
The use of a clever social engineering ruse means that users
plugging an infected drive (such as a USB drive) into a Windows
Vista machine might well be lulled into the idea they are
clicking on a link that simply opens a folder, rather than
actually running the worm's viral payload.
The same trick, first noticed by researchers at the Internet
Storm Centre on Vista, also works on beta versions of Windows 7,
researchers at F-secure have discovered.
[/quote]
>> MS have missed the boat again. Instead of trying to hack
>> security onto a bad design they should have dropped the
>> windows OS and do what Apple did.
>
> Why would they do that? They have dozens of products that run
> on Windows. Such a move would be a financial disaster.
>
>> Windows 7 - too little too late.
>
> Too little, too late for what? It's going to smack Linux down
> - hard - again, just as every Windows version since 95 has.
See above.
> And you and cola and all the crapware OpenOffice programmers
> in China can't do a damn thing about it but sit back and watch
> and wh[^h]ine.
That's right, we'll sit back and watch under WINE Windows
products operating under Linux, until software vendors catch up.
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