[News] Hurry Up, Vista 7, Hurry Up... You're SO Behind GNU/Linux

Roy Schestowitz

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Aug 30, 2009, 5:06:08 PM8/30/09

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Race Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 vs Windows 7 RC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbB8RT6Aas

It's not just speed by the way.... GNU/Linux is ahead of Vista 7 at user
experience:

Linux native multitouch support

,----[ Quote ]
| This demo made by Mohamed-Ikbel Boulabiar, Stephane Chatty and Sebastien
| Hamdani from the Interactive Computing Lab at ENAC shows how one can use the
| multi-touch capabilities that Henrik Rydberg added to the Linux input system.
`----

http://lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux.html

Recent:

Checking In On Ubuntu Karmic's Boot Time

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| The testing for this article was very simple. We performed clean
| installations of Ubuntu 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10 (using a daily LiveCD from
| 2009-08-25) on a Dell Inspiron Mini 9, Samsung NC10, and a Lenovo ThinkPad
| T60. Once the installation was complete, we installed Bootchart and that was
| the only change made to any of the distributions. After that and a few
| reboots later, we had our Bootchart numbers and then proceeded to test the
| next Ubuntu release in the same fashion.
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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_910_boot&num=1

Boot Time: Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 4 vs. Windows 7 RC

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| I know, I know, there's a miliard videos comparing boot time out there, and
| this one is no different. In the following video you can see two computers
| with the exact same specifications booting Windows 7 Release Candidate and
| Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Alpha 4.
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http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/08/boot-time-ubuntu-910-alpha-4-vs-windows.html

Jaunty boot up times

http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/635

Ubuntu 9.04 Boot Times

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| Charles Dickens wrote that "It was the best of times, it was the worst of
| times". I have a feeling that he wasn’t referring to computer operating
| system boot times, but that's what I’m going to discuss today. More
| specifically Ubuntu 9.04's boot times.
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/24748/1162/

Ubuntu 9.04 boots in 17.5 seconds!

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| Recently I treated myself to a solid-state drive (SSD). That’s essentially a
| hard-drive made out of memory chips. I bought the Intel X25-E Extreme, which
| uses faster single-level cell (SLC) memory chips instead of slower
| multi-level cell (MLC) memory chips.
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http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ubuntu-904-boots-in-175-seconds/

http://distrogue.blogspot.com/2007/12/startup-times.html

Ubuntu vs. That Other OS

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| Both machines have the same exact specs, both have been used for the same
| time (to be fair I have tweaked the OS on the left quite a bit to optimize
| it). Ubuntu is already idle by the time the video ends; while the other PC
| takes 30 seconds more than what I’ve uploaded to idle the hard drive.
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http://blog.estebanglas.com.ar/2007/11/ubuntu-vs-that-other-os/

Quick booting SBC runs Debian Linux

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| Technologic Systems has announced a single-board computer (SBC) claimed to
| boot Linux 2.6 in under two seconds.
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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3219821348.html

Mach Boot: The live CD that supposedly boots in 10 seconds

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| Mach Boot won't replace Knoppix, and it won't replace Puppy, DSL or NimbleX
| either. But it's a tool all its own, one that could be very useful with a
| little more development time.
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http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2007/09/the_live_cd_that_supposedly_bo.html

Tiny WiFi-enabled Linux box boots in 1.1 seconds

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| Technologic continues to reduce the boot time, price, and size of
| its embedded boards and systems targeting remote sensing and other
| power-critical applications. Its new $100 ARM9-based TS-7400 board can
| boot Linux in 1.1 seconds, and is available as part of a tiny
| WiFi-enabled system.
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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6252722644.html

Flexible ARM9 SBC boots Linux in 1.69 seconds

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| Technologic Systems is offering a freely downloadable, Debian-based Linux
| OS image said to boot from an SD card in less than two seconds, on the
| company's ARM9-based SBC (single-board computer).
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http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8933335475.html

Phoenix HyperSpace: Quick-Boot Your Laptop

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| Phoenix Technologies' new HyperSpace is an instant-on environment for
| laptops, letting users launch a browser or other apps with booting into the
| OS.
|
| Today, Phoenix Technologies introduced a firmware product called HyperSpace,
| which allows PCs to run a number of applications separate from the operating
| system. What that means is that if you use a PC equipped with HyperSpace, you
| will be able to quick-boot your notebook into a secure Linux environment,
| where you can use Web browsers like FireFox and pre-loaded Web-aware apps
| like Google Earth, Picasa, and the like.
|
| [...]
|
| Also, since HyperSpace is a Linux-based platform, Windows viruses won't
| affect it.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2211507,00.asp
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DFS

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Aug 30, 2009, 8:34:18 PM8/30/09

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Race Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 vs Windows 7 RC
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbB8RT6Aas
>
> It's not just speed by the way.... GNU/Linux is ahead of Vista 7 at
> user experience:

As evidenced by: an enormous number of user bug reports and user complaints
found at

www.ubuntuforums.org
http://forums.opensuse.org/
http://fedoraforum.org/
http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/
http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=58
http://forums.debian.net/
http://forum.mandriva.com/
http://www.slackwarehelp.org/
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/

As evidenced by: "Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty
sure we can (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in
Ubuntu."
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-161670.html

As evidenced by: the OO.org's shameless theft of the MS Office Ribbon. I'm
sure it will be half-ass for several years. That slopware still doesn't
have separate designers for forms and reports. It still can't show more
than one column of data in a listbox or combobox control.

Face facts, Spamowitz: the Linux/OO "community" is just a disorganized
collection of unoriginal IP thieves.

Rick

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Aug 30, 2009, 10:07:43 PM8/30/09

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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:34:18 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Race Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 vs Windows 7 RC
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbB8RT6Aas
>>
>> It's not just speed by the way.... GNU/Linux is ahead of Vista 7 at
>> user experience:
>
>
> As evidenced by: an enormous number of user bug reports and user
> complaints found at
>
> www.ubuntuforums.org
> http://forums.opensuse.org/
> http://fedoraforum.org/
> http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/
> http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=58
> http://forums.debian.net/
> http://forum.mandriva.com/
> http://www.slackwarehelp.org/
> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
>

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,090,000 for windows freezes. (0.11 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,630,000 for vista freezes.
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,730,000 for Xp freezes.
(snip)

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Rick

DFS

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Aug 31, 2009, 12:13:35 AM8/31/09

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Don't be as dumb as usual, (p)Rick.

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,100,000 for Linux freezes.

With an installed base 1/90th of Windows', this is more proof of just how
stable and reliable Linux really is.

Rex Ballard

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Aug 31, 2009, 1:45:56 AM8/31/09

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You're probably right. Ubuntu Jaunty is very new, it probably has a
very small market share, and hasn't even been blessed by Concentric
and "production ready" yet.

It's going through the same kinds of pains that early

Rex Ballard

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Aug 31, 2009, 2:04:12 AM8/31/09

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On Aug 30, 5:06 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
wrote:

> Race Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 vs Windows 7 RC

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbB8RT6Aas

> It's not just speed by the way.... GNU/Linux is ahead of Vista 7 at user
> experience:

> Linux native multitouch support

> ,----[ Quote ]
> | This demo made by Mohamed-Ikbel Boulabiar, Stephane Chatty and Sebastien
> | Hamdani from the Interactive Computing Lab at ENAC shows how one can use the
> | multi-touch capabilities that Henrik Rydberg added to the Linux input system.
> `----

Multitouch was originally written or UNIX/X11, porting it to Linux was
trivial.
There may be patent license issues. It may also end up being
"intuitively derived" by some college student based on watching CNN.

It's probably not fair, or even Legal to publish benchmarks between a
production stable version of Linux and a Windows 7 Release Candidate.
The release candidate usually has extra debug flags and some of the
optimization is turned off to make issue resolution and root cause
analysis easier. Meanwhile, Linux is optimized to the hilt by the
time it is production stable.

A more "fair" comparison would be between Linux compiled with all the
"debug" and "nooptimization" flags on gcc, and Windows 7.

Linux has been running circles around Windows pretty much since 2001
when Linux released the 2.4 kernel with the queue based scheduler that
eliminated all the spinlock contention that existed in the 2.2 version
that Microsoft exploited to make it look like NT 4.0 was faster than
Linux (Mindcraft Benchmarks).

Microsoft hasn't permitted the publication of a benchmark since 2.4
and 2.6 is even faster. Microsoft considers such benchmarks to be
"damaging to the brand" and as a result, forbids publicaton of
benchmarks without their prior written approval. Microsoft can also
tell the benchmarking organization to rewrite their results to make it
look like Windows won, even if the "win" was under really bizarre
conditions.

Microsoft did try to "prove" that NTFS was faster than EXT3 by using
capture sizes optimized only for NTFS. File sizes were exact
multiples of NTFS cluster sizes, access was non-sequential, and files
were copied in an order that was intentionally working against the
EXT3 indexing.

Even that disappeared when read-ahead and write-behind caching was
turned on for Linux.