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fl...@there.com

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Nov 15, 2009, 6:38:24 AM11/15/09
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Updated those lonely Fujitsu tablets. Actually DSL does everything I need. But PCLOS is fun to play with, and of course, more complete.

DSL is every bit as smooth as PCLOS. And both are so better than jerking windows.

Zero problems in last year completing projects on PCLOS. NO burps, NO crashes, No big Blue Screens Of Death.

Happy hardware makes, well, happy hardware.

Still can't believe people are paying for Service Pack 7.

wispygalaxy

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:57:17 PM11/17/09
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fl...@there.com wrote:

I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will either by
OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook right now, but I
really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure. :)

Sinister Midget III

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:46:50 PM11/17/09
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On 2009-11-18, wispygalaxy <wispy...@gmail.com> claimed:

> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will either by
> OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook right now, but I
> really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure. :)

I keep almost buying another netbook (I had a line on a really good
price for an Acer a couple of weeks ago, but it fell through). But I'd
like to hold out for an ARM model, too. I hope they hurry. The itch is
getting harder to scratch.

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Terry Porter

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:57:15 AM11/18/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:

> fl...@there.com wrote:
>
>> Updated those lonely Fujitsu tablets. Actually DSL does everything I
>> need. But PCLOS is fun to play with, and of course, more complete.
>>
>> DSL is every bit as smooth as PCLOS. And both are so better than
>> jerking windows.
>>
>> Zero problems in last year completing projects on PCLOS. NO burps, NO
>> crashes, No big Blue Screens Of Death.
>>
>> Happy hardware makes, well, happy hardware.
>>
>> Still can't believe people are paying for Service Pack 7.
>
> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will
> either by OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook
> right now,

Please don't wispygalaxy !!!!!!!!

Please hold off because the netbooks really suck atm as MS has mandated
what they have in equipment, i.e. ram, hard disk etc.

> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm
> sure. :)

I think they will be more than a hit, it think they will herald a whole
new era of wild and crazy form factors that will make netbooks look like
the ancient laproasting notebooks they displaced.

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Roy Schestowitz

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:13:21 AM11/18/09
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Intel seems to have started Moblin and Atom due to fear of these (and Geode).

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Megabyte

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:55:20 PM11/18/09
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Still waiting to see one in a retail store. I think they were
announced last January...Smartbooks, but still not on the shelves.
Time will tell if they materialize and are any good. Perhaps in time
Linux will own the low end, Windows the middle end and OS X the high
end in terms of portable pc's.

The stats seem to show consumers wanting 10"+ screens on their portable
computers so if Smartbooks arrive carrying 7" screens it could be a
deal breaker for many. The more I carry and use my 13" MacBook Pro the
more I even question the need for a Smartbook\Netbook. 5 - 7 hours
battery life seems to do me fine and the larger keyboard, trackpad and
display make it a pleasure to use with the added benefit of running
different Linux distros and Windows in VM's on top of OS X.


Chris Ahlstrom

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:28:29 PM11/18/09
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Megabyte pulled this Usenet boner:

> The stats seem to show consumers wanting 10"+ screens on their portable
> computers so if Smartbooks arrive carrying 7" screens it could be a
> deal breaker for many.

Unless the price is right ;->

> The more I carry and use my 13" MacBook Pro the more I even question the
> need for a Smartbook\Netbook. 5 - 7 hours battery life seems to do me
> fine and the larger keyboard, trackpad and display make it a pleasure to
> use with the added benefit of running different Linux distros and Windows
> in VM's on top of OS X.

The same for my Acer 4810T, except I mostly just run Fedora on it right now.

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Megabyte

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:36:58 PM11/18/09
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On 11-18-2009, Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> wrote:

> Megabyte pulled this Usenet boner:

>> The stats seem to show consumers wanting 10"+ screens on their
>> portable computers so if Smartbooks arrive carrying 7" screens it
>> could be a deal breaker for many.
> Unless the price is right ;->

I'd say both price and performance would have to be right and even then
the over 40 crowd is likely to pick something with a bigger display.
I've had a 8.9", 10.2", 11.2" and 13" displays on Netbooks and my
MacBook Pro. 11.2" is okay for me but the sweet spot seems to be 13"
and I hardly notice the difference in size\weight between any of them.
Obviously those with younger eyes may have a different perspective.

Terry Porter

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:12:24 PM11/18/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:13:21 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

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> ____/ Terry Porter on Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 09:57 : \____
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>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:

<snip>



>>> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure.
>>> :)
>>
>> I think they will be more than a hit, it think they will herald a whole
>> new era of wild and crazy form factors that will make netbooks look
>> like the ancient laproasting notebooks they displaced.
>
> Intel seems to have started Moblin and Atom due to fear of these (and
> Geode).

I'm sure you're right, and look how popular Atom has begun.

Nevertheless Atom is still quite useless for netbooks given it's lack of
on chip integration.

Some of the ARM chips have everything, and the kitchen sink on the chip,
and that's what will make *really* cheap mobile devices possible.

Roy Schestowitz

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Nov 18, 2009, 6:54:40 PM11/18/09
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:13:21 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> ____/ Terry Porter on Wednesday 18 Nov 2009 09:57 : \____
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>>> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure.
>>>> :)
>>>
>>> I think they will be more than a hit, it think they will herald a whole
>>> new era of wild and crazy form factors that will make netbooks look
>>> like the ancient laproasting notebooks they displaced.
>>
>> Intel seems to have started Moblin and Atom due to fear of these (and
>> Geode).
>
> I'm sure you're right, and look how popular Atom has begun.

It's popular among buyers, but it is not profitable. Intel cannibalises with it.
Intel laid off 6,000 employee not so long ago when profits sank 90%.

> Nevertheless Atom is still quite useless for netbooks given it's lack of
> on chip integration.
>
> Some of the ARM chips have everything, and the kitchen sink on the chip,
> and that's what will make *really* cheap mobile devices possible.
>
>
>
>

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wispygalaxy

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:02:59 PM11/25/09
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Sinister Midget III wrote:

> On 2009-11-18, wispygalaxy <wispy...@gmail.com> claimed:
>
>> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will either
>> by OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook right now,
>> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure. :)
>
> I keep almost buying another netbook (I had a line on a really good
> price for an Acer a couple of weeks ago, but it fell through). But I'd
> like to hold out for an ARM model, too. I hope they hurry. The itch is
> getting harder to scratch.

Soon I will need a new computer, and by that time I hope the ARM models will
be out. I wonder how many of them will be displayed in Best Buy, et al.
Will they be placed side-by-side with the Intel models? Will customers
know the difference? Let's hope that they will see that the ARM netbooks
are comfortable and easy to use.

wispygalaxy

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:03:42 PM11/25/09
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Terry Porter wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:
>>
>> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will
>> either by OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook
>> right now,
>
> Please don't wispygalaxy !!!!!!!!
>
> Please hold off because the netbooks really suck atm as MS has mandated
> what they have in equipment, i.e. ram, hard disk etc.

Why does Microsoft have to ruin the fun?? Consumers like the latest and
coolest technology, and MS has to restrict the market with their tactics.
It's so annoying. :(

>> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm
>> sure. :)
>
> I think they will be more than a hit, it think they will herald a whole
> new era of wild and crazy form factors that will make netbooks look like
> the ancient laproasting notebooks they displaced.

Things will only get better from now on. I'm excited for mobile web
technology. My friends all are interested in it, and they use the web from
their cell phones. Linux is a huge player there!

Tim Smith

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:32:25 PM11/25/09
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In article <hejv2h$lr5$8...@news.eternal-september.org>,

wispygalaxy <wispy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Terry Porter wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:
> >>
> >> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will
> >> either by OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook
> >> right now,
> >
> > Please don't wispygalaxy !!!!!!!!
> >
> > Please hold off because the netbooks really suck atm as MS has mandated
> > what they have in equipment, i.e. ram, hard disk etc.
>
> Why does Microsoft have to ruin the fun?? Consumers like the latest and
> coolest technology, and MS has to restrict the market with their tactics.
> It's so annoying. :(

Good news for you, then--Terry was wrong. Manufacturers are free to
build machines with whatever RAM, hard disk, screen size, and so on that
they wish.

The only say Microsoft has in this is that Microsoft won't license XP
for laptops anymore, and they won't let a manufacture label a laptop as
a "netbook" in order to get around that.

Since you are interested in a machine that comes without Windows, where
Microsoft places the dividing line between "can license XP" and "cannot
license XP" is irrelevant to you.

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--Tim Smith

Roy Schestowitz

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:51:59 PM11/25/09
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Microsoft will probably spread lies like it last did with NPD and fake #s on
"return rates" (debunked by Dell).

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Tim Smith

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:08:25 AM11/26/09
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In article <1361124.a...@schestowitz.com>,

Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
> Microsoft will probably spread lies like it last did with NPD and fake #s on
> "return rates" (debunked by Dell).

How come you ignore the other netbook manufacturers that gave *first*
*hand* reports of high return rates?

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Rick

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:31:11 AM11/26/09
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Which ones?

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Rick

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:41:32 AM11/26/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:08:25 -0800, Tim Smith wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/12/
dell_reality_linux_windows_netbooks/

Todd Finch, Dell senior product marketing manager, said the number of
Linux returns are approximately the same as those for Windows netbooks.
He categorized the matter of returns as a "non-issue".


htAnother Look At Linux Netbook Return Statisticstp://
bmighty.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/04/
lies_damned_lie.html

According to Lai, MSI's numbers weren't based on the company's actual
netbook return rates. In fact, at the time, MSI wasn't even shipping a
Linux-powered netbook model.

This, however, is a game anyone can play. Case in point: According to
Lai, another research firm recently published a report stating that Asus
-- the company that popularized the netbook form factor -- sees identical
return rates on Linux and Windows netbooks.

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Roy Schestowitz

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:49:26 PM11/26/09
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MSI just 'slapped' Ballnux onto netbooks without appropriate care. They deserve
to see high return rates.

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Terry Porter

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Nov 26, 2009, 3:50:46 PM11/26/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:03:42 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:

> Terry Porter wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:57:17 -0500, wispygalaxy wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't got Windows 7 yet... I'm pretty sure my next laptop will
>>> either by OS-less or come with Linux. I'm tempted to get a netbook
>>> right now,
>>
>> Please don't wispygalaxy !!!!!!!!
>>
>> Please hold off because the netbooks really suck atm as MS has mandated
>> what they have in equipment, i.e. ram, hard disk etc.
>
> Why does Microsoft have to ruin the fun??

Because they are a company with no moral code, they will do *whatever*
they think it takes to increase profits, regardless of the cost to
humanity.

> Consumers like the latest and
> coolest technology, and MS has to restrict the market with their
> tactics. It's so annoying. :(

It is, but even Microsoft can't control everything. Fortunately Linux is
here to make innovation possible in the face of this outdated Wooly
Mammoth which is trying to stamp on any and all newcomers.

>
>>> but I really want the ARM netbooks. Those will be a hit, I'm sure.
>>> :)
>>
>> I think they will be more than a hit, it think they will herald a whole
>> new era of wild and crazy form factors that will make netbooks look
>> like the ancient laproasting notebooks they displaced.
>
> Things will only get better from now on. I'm excited for mobile web
> technology. My friends all are interested in it, and they use the web
> from their cell phones. Linux is a huge player there!

And growing every day :)

Exciting days indeed!

Roy Schestowitz

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____/ Terry Porter on Thursday 26 Nov 2009 20:50 : \____

Linux to Linux... on many phones and servers alike. The routers don't run Windows, either.

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