On 5/27/13 2:47 AM, in article knv9r1$ads$
1...@dont-email.me, "Lusotec"
<nom...@nomail.not> wrote:
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But you do not think I am wrong about any of the ownership rights I
specified when you showed your disagreement with me. In other words, you
claimed I was wrong, I gave specifics for my claim, and you showed *no*
disagreement but still insisted I was not just wrong but "lying". And you
have never backed off of this position. You have *no* stated disagreement
with me about the ownership rights Apple has in regards to WebKit, but for
you it is all about ego - you made a claim and will not budge one inch. You
have been desperately trying for months to find me make a mistake... and in
this thread you did. And your joy was so strong you even re-named the thread
to highlight this fact. Excellent! You found me making an error and soothed
your wounded ego and did me no harm. Excellent for all.
But now let us not pretend you showed any of the ownership rights I spoke of
in terms of Apple's ownership of WebKit to be wrong. You never did. You just
are not ready to admit to this - and likely never will be. You have backed
yourself into a corner where you have to pretend you were right, even though
you cannot find any example of where I was wrong about the ownership rights
I spoke of.
>> 2) Back your position
>
> Apple does *not* have the copyright to WebKit (only to part of it) thus
> Apple does not own WebKit. Trademarks, domain registrations and anything
> else you bring up is irrelevant. It is that simple.
The ownership rights I speak of are the *only* rights I attributed to Apple.
You claim that I am not just wrong to attribute those right to Apple but
that it is dishonest to do so. You are simply wrong. But for you this is not
about information or knowledge but about ego.
>> Still this would not show I "lied", as you accused, but it would show I
>> was in error. That would be a great day for you (twice you would have
>> shown Snit to be wrong... *WOW*) and it would educate me (I would learn I
>> was wrong about one of those).
>>
>> Win - Win. So why not do it?
>>
>> Oh, because for you it is not about knowledge - it is about ego. And now
>> that you have declared me a "liar" for noting Apple has those ownership
>> rights in terms of WebKit, it is psychologically very painful for you to
>> admit I am right.
>>
>> That is OK. I understand. You are not mature enough to admit to your
>> errors. Maybe someday you will be there. When you do I shall congratulate
>> you and speak highly of you. I might toss in a good natured "dig" and say
>> "finally" or something like that, but I sincerely will be happy to see you
>> mature to that level.
>>
>>>> But that is not the focus here. Really, in this case you actually caught
>>>> me making a mistake... I commend you for that. It has been a huge goal
>>>> of yours and you finally succeeded. Excellent work!
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Remember your false claims about bell curves? Remember who corrected you?
>>
>> Here is what I educated Brad cc Wiggins, you, and others in COLA about:
>> <
http://youtu.be/MoW3hMq-eIc>.
>
> You educated me? LOL!
You can claim otherwise, but certainly neither you nor Brad cc Wiggins or
anyone else in the conversation showed any understanding of what I show in
that video until after I produced it and showed it to you. But if it makes
you feel better to say you knew the first standard deviations were at the
inflection points even before I told you then that is fine by me. Again, I
am much more concerned about information and knowledge than ego. You feel
better claiming you already knew. OK. Whatever. Does not really matter to
me. It is good you know *now*. Fair enough?
> That video is *proof* you didn't (still don't?) know what a bell curve is.
Oh, I get your nit-picking distinction between a normal distribution and a
bell curve, but I *also* get that a normal distribution is commonly referred
to as a bell curve, something you have *again* shown ignorance of. Doing
just moments of Googling, though, I find this:
<
http://bit.ly/16kFhwN>
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Bell Curve, Normal Distribution Defined
The term bell curve is used to describe the mathematical concept
called normal distribution, sometimes referred to as Gaussian
distribution. �Bell curve� refers to the shape that is created when
a line is plotted using the data points for an item that meets the
criteria of �normal distribution�.
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<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution>
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Normal distribution: The Gaussian distribution is sometimes
informally called the bell curve.
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<
http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/standard-normal-distribution.html>
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A Normal Distribution
The "Bell Curve" is a Normal Distribution.
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<
http://www.shodor.org/interactivate/discussions/TheNormalDistribution>
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Student: What is the Bell Curve?
Mentor: The bell curve is another name for the normal distribution.
The normal distribution is a common type of graph that has more or
less the shape of a bell.
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<
http://www.netmba.com/statistics/distribution/normal/>
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The shape of the normal distribution resembles that of a bell, so it
sometimes is referred to as the "bell curve"
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<
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bell-curve.asp>
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The bell curve is also known as a normal distribution. The bell
curve is less commonly referred to as a Gaussian distribution
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And more. So there we go - another piece of knowledge for you. If you wish
to claim you already knew this, even though you have repeatedly demonstrated
you did not, I am OK with that. Just show *now* and in the future you
understand. You can save your clearly delicate ego *and* learn. And more
than that, perhaps you will stop trolling me with your claims about this.
Again, a win-win for everyone... if only you are able to learn from the
evidence provided. Are you?
And below you lash out with insults and accusations but never actually get
around to showing anywhere I am actually wrong.
> To educate others you have to educate yourself first. To educate yourself,
> you have to be willing and able to do so. Your insistence on so many dumb
> claims even after being shown clear proof they are wrong leads me to believe
> you are either unwilling or unable to do so.
This very thread is proof against your claims (another chance for you to
learn!) In this thread you *finally* caught me in an error - and my
response was to not just acknowledge it but to openly congratulate you on
doing so. In response such behavior you claim you believe I am "unwilling or
unable" to acknowledge when I have been shown to be wrong.
What a bizarre claim of yours! Do you see, now, how irrational it is?
> More importantly, the fact that you still have not corrected or removed that
> video after you were informed by me of its problems is very regrettable,
> especially for someone that claims to be a teacher.
I have no obligation to sooth your ego, which is really what you are asking
me to do.
>> You are embarrassed you did not know. A shame. But it is the norm of the
>> COLA "advocates" of COLA... only information they will accept in COLA is
>> from their own herd... does not matter how accurate or well supported the
>> information is. And here you are backing my claims. So, I suppose, I owe
>> you a thank you for, again, showing me to be right about your herd
>> (though, I admit, you have made some statements that go against the list
>> of herd-accepted BS).
>>
>>>>>> Chalk it up to posting this as I was taking care of a sick
>>>>>> kid... whatever, still a goof.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish your kid a quick recovery.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. Sincerely.
>>>>
>>>>>> Still: kills the idea of any openness on the part of Google. You can
>>>>>> use their services only if they get their cut. No different from other
>>>>>> corporations. Go figure!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, imagine that, a company providing services for money. What will
>>>>> they invent next?!
>>>>
>>>> Still, the idea that they are a Linux "Free" company is silly,
>>>
>>> "Linux 'Free' company", what does that even mean?!
>>
>> Who knows? It is another herd BS claim that somehow Google is a Linux
>> company
>
> Google critically depends on Linux. All Google's services run on GNU/Linux
> servers. Google's ChromeOS and Android OSs are Linux based. Google is very
> much a Linux company.
No, they are not a "Linux company" - they are a company that uses Linux in
many ways (though they also use other OSs and software).
>> and embraces the "Free" BS of Stallman. Utter gibberish... but
>> that is what you herd pushes.
>
> Who claimed that Google "embraces the 'Free' BS of Stallman"?
> My bet is that you are just lying as usual.
This is the belief repeatedly shown by the herd as Google is defended. They
are the "good" company to balance the non-Linux companies of Apple and
Microsoft. It is a herd delusion.
>>>> but that is what many of the herd seem to believe.
>>>
>>> And yet another Snit lie and with an insult as usual.
>>
>> What insult? Really?
>
> If you really need me to answer that question you are even dumber than I
> though.
You think it is an "insult" to use the term herd, but I have repeatedly ask
you and others to offer an alternative but *honest* term for the group that
dishonestly calls itself the "advocates" (even though they are false
"advocates"). You have not done so.
But I am open to another term... just has to be honest and concise. And keep
in mind I have been quite clear about the baseless, inaccurate, and even
contradictory claims pushed by the herd (or, at best, rarely if ever
questioned).
Why don't you chime in on that thread and state which of those beliefs you
back? You have been willing to stand up against the herd BS and state you
disagree with Stallman's in terms of his decency and hygiene. I commend you
for that.
--
> As for Stallman, he is a repulsive person by any standard of decency.
... standard of decency or hygiene.
-- Lusotec