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jac...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2006, 2:05:36 PM8/27/06
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The Financial Express website features an article where the Kerala
State is thinking of moving to support open source completely. Unlike
the ban on colas (The debate is still going on whether this is a good
thing or bad thing) this could actually be good news apart from
promoting the use of open source software
it could help in making the public in general aware about the
availability of non-proprietary software which is freely available.

Piracy is a big issue in India plus there is a lack of proper
information available on the use of proprietary software. The biggest
plus point is that it will be promoted in schools. It is easier to
teach children to use computers even if it is a bit complicated, since
they are able to grasp and learn thing faster. Plus it could have a
cascading effect on the public in general. Below are some of the
comments by certain DIGG users.

I'm glad to see advancement of such open source technology. The
internet is a good community, and introducing more people into only
further advances the community. Unfortunately with windows, there
really isn't much a community because it is closed source.

Why should the government pay some set amount for every single
computer simply to have an operating system, when an OS (and almost all
necessary software) can be had for free. Most people are simply
learning to use the word processor, cruising the Internet for
information. For programming, Linux has almost too many options for
learning languages, old and new. If you want to learn MS Windows later,
then buy a copy. It's hardly difficult to learn. I highly doubt any
school is teaching very much about Windows system management (to the
general student pop), as any system administrator worth his salt
wouldn't allow them to be used with the admin accounts.

One of the main hindrances for Linux has been the immense popularity of
windows which is used by around 90 % of the people worldwide. Linux
brings with a stereotype or phobia that it is meant only for geeks. The
UbuntuLinux is a good example of user friendliness in Linux. Apart from
being freely available for downloading you can even ask them freely
post it by Snail mail from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ to your house
with Zero Rupees being spent. All you have to is register and put your
Postal Address. The Cds usually take about a month or so to arrive. I
myself have used this service to get the Ubuntu Cds. You can order
multiple copies so that you can share it with other people.

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Scott Nudds

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Aug 27, 2006, 2:57:48 PM8/27/06
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jac...@gmail.com wrote:
> The Financial Express website features an article where the Kerala
> State is thinking of moving to support open source completely.

Who? Kerala? Island population of 45. Install Linux... Death is immediate.

Roy Schestowitz

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Aug 27, 2006, 3:05:06 PM8/27/06
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__/ [ jac...@gmail.com ] on Sunday 27 August 2006 19:05 \__

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala

,----[ Quote ]
| Population (2001)
| - Density 31,838,619 (12th)
| - 819/km²
`----

Who's next? Canada maybe?

alt

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Aug 27, 2006, 4:09:53 PM8/27/06
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Canada will go only when the US ceases to be worth 75%-80% of our exports
or the US switches to Open formats. In business (and pretty much
everything else), we follow the US.


7

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Aug 27, 2006, 4:44:00 PM8/27/06
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idio asstroturfer Scott Nudds wrote on behalf of micoshaft:

Idiot.

Kerala is a state similar to concept of a State like California in USA
and somewhat as big as a country like UK.
Kerala switching is BIG BIG BIG news as its equivalent to
saying that population as big as a whole country has switched
to Open Source GNU/Linux.

Other countries have switched already, and Kerala just adds to that.
So this whole Linux thing is now turning into a run away juggernaut.

casioc...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2006, 5:17:24 PM8/27/06
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Not only that, but Kerala is a highly admired state, so when Kerala
does something, many others would probably take notice.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kerala%20model

Roy Schestowitz

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Aug 28, 2006, 3:25:49 AM8/28/06
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__/ [ casioc...@gmail.com ] on Sunday 27 August 2006 22:17 \__

The Indian government gradually embraces Open source and open standards
(there are articles about it all over the place). The whole country is bound
to go Linux within, let us say, 5 years. Kerala is just the first step. It's
the trailblazer.

Best wishes,

Roy

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Aug 28, 2006, 6:03:55 AM8/28/06
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casioc...@gmail.com wrote:

It did boast highest literacy compared to anywhere else
on the planet.

Roy Schestowitz

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Aug 28, 2006, 6:37:19 AM8/28/06
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__/ [ 7 ] on Monday 28 August 2006 11:03 \__

If I recall correctly, Kerala becomes (at least) the third Linux-only
valley/region. Korea, a part of Spain and parts of Germany come to mind...

Best wishes,

Roy

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Mark Kent

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Aug 28, 2006, 5:12:54 PM8/28/06
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Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:

> __/ [ 7 ] on Monday 28 August 2006 11:03 \__
>
>> casioc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 7 wrote:
>>>> idio asstroturfer Scott Nudds wrote on behalf of micoshaft:
>>>>
>>>> > jac...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> >> The Financial Express website features an article where the Kerala
>>>> >> State is thinking of moving to support open source completely.
>>>> >
>>>> > Who? Kerala? Island population of 45. Install Linux... Death is
>>>> > immediate.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Kerala is a state similar to concept of a State like California in USA
>>>> and somewhat as big as a country like UK.
>>>> Kerala switching is BIG BIG BIG news as its equivalent to
>>>> saying that population as big as a whole country has switched
>>>> to Open Source GNU/Linux.
>>>>
>>>> Other countries have switched already, and Kerala just adds to that.
>>>> So this whole Linux thing is now turning into a run away juggernaut.
>>>
>>> Not only that, but Kerala is a highly admired state, so when Kerala
>>> does something, many others would probably take notice.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kerala%20model
>>
>> It did boast highest literacy compared to anywhere else
>> on the planet.
>
> If I recall correctly, Kerala becomes (at least) the third Linux-only
> valley/region. Korea, a part of Spain and parts of Germany come to mind...
>

It does appear that the unstoppable force of openness (avoidance of vendor
lock-in) has combined with the immovable object of the GPL; there is no
possibility of imposing proprietary taxation-models on these people again.
I suspect that the speed at which other governments around the planet
adopt the same approach will be directly but inversely proportional to
the levels of local corruption.

Venezuala was right at the front, afairc, along with the very forward
looking if not huge city of Largo.

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Mark Kent

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Aug 28, 2006, 5:15:32 PM8/28/06
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alt <spam...@lazyeyez.net> espoused:

I suspect that Canada will move in the same way as the rest of the G8,
ie., by politicians and local people wanting their local governments to
not pay foreign powers for the privilege of accessing their own data.
Once this realisation has been made, the rest is relatively easy.

If it's necessary to keep an odd copy of MS Windows and MS Office to
talk to the legacy folks in the US, I'm sure Canadians will be up to the
job.

Vcott Nudds

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Aug 29, 2006, 4:40:10 PM8/29/06
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Mark Kent wrote:
> Venezuala was right at the front, afairc, along with the very forward
> looking if not huge city of Largo.

Yesterday Venezuala. Today Kerala. Tomorrow the world.

Hmmm Only Communist nations...

Perhaps that's because Linux is Pure COMMUNISM.

alt

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Aug 30, 2006, 12:00:42 AM8/30/06
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The problem is that our economy is so tightly tied to the US economy that
if a US company wants documents in Microsoft's proprietary formats, then
we really don't have a choice in the matter.


>
> If it's necessary to keep an odd copy of MS Windows and MS Office to talk
> to the legacy folks in the US, I'm sure Canadians will be up to the job.

Yep. OOo is really good for that too. I routinely transfer docs in
Word/Excel format to US parties.


Mark Kent

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Aug 30, 2006, 1:20:17 AM8/30/06
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You have some choice, I think - MS Word is a very dangerous choice for
commercially-sensitive documents, due to the file format which can
contain unexpected and unintended information; PDF is a much better
format, far safer, and can be read by anyone. OO can even write it
natively. Corporate lawyers are likely to have some view on this.

>
>
>>
>> If it's necessary to keep an odd copy of MS Windows and MS Office to talk
>> to the legacy folks in the US, I'm sure Canadians will be up to the job.
>
> Yep. OOo is really good for that too. I routinely transfer docs in
> Word/Excel format to US parties.
>

That's probably the best solution :-)

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Scott Nudds

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Sep 6, 2006, 11:26:42 PM9/6/06
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Mark Kent wrote:
> Venezuala was right at the front, afairc, along with the very forward
> looking if not huge city of Largo.

You are a real communust now aren't you?

Governments will indeed embrace open source operating environments
because they provide a level of security against spying and intrusion by
other governments = specifically the Fascist AmeriKKKan state.

You see, no government on earth can trusth that Bush hasn't ordered
Microsoft to include mechanisms by which American interests can access
and perhaps even maliciously alter the operation of computer systems
world wide.

If an OS is open source, then there is a good possibility that such
debasement can be detected if any attempt is made to intruduce it.

Open source has a lot of other benefits as well, and in general the
sharing of information is a good idea. Well, ok, it's always a good idea.

The problem is, Linux is such a stinking pile of shit, that it's ugly
and disgustingly inefficient nature is holding back the open source
community, and allowing companies like Microsoft to have more influence
and a longer lifetime than it would otherwise have.

Linix is doing great damage.


DFS

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Sep 6, 2006, 11:32:32 PM9/6/06
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Scott Nudds wrote:

> You see, no government on earth can trusth that Bush hasn't ordered
> Microsoft to include mechanisms by which American interests can access
> and perhaps even maliciously alter the operation of computer systems
> world wide.

Have you met Rex Ballard?

What makes you easily-hoodwinked oddballs think MS could keep something like
that quiet, when the slightest controversial statement (like the "Halloween"
memos or Ballmer "fucking kill Google!") is regularly leaked?

> Linix is doing great damage.

To the psyche of its users?

Ian Hilliard

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Sep 7, 2006, 10:58:19 AM9/7/06
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If you are of such an opinion, what do you recommend as an alternative?

The nice thing about open source is that you can change it. I would
recommend that you come up with a better alternative and get people to use
that. For my part, I am quite happy with Linux and I find is a very good
platform to 'get the job done'. I personally couldn't ask for anything
else.

Ian

Scott Nudds

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Sep 9, 2006, 3:03:21 AM9/9/06
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DFS wrote:
> What makes you easily-hoodwinked oddballs think MS could keep something like
> that quiet, when the slightest controversial statement (like the "Halloween"
> memos or Ballmer "fucking kill Google!") is regularly leaked?

I think MS simply has to include an OS component as a black box from
uncle sam and the dirty work is done.

The AmeriKKKan government and AmeriKKKan corporatins are populated by
untrustworthy liars.

That fact is all too evident.

Scott Nudds

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Sep 9, 2006, 3:06:06 AM9/9/06
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Ian Hilliard wrote:
> If you are of such an opinion, what do you recommend as an alternative?

There are no alternatives. That's why Microsoft always wins.


Ian Hilliard wrote:
> The nice thing about open source is that you can change it. I would
> recommend that you come up with a better alternative and get people to use
> that.

Better alternatives are easy to specify, but I don't have 200,000 man
years to write it.

Ian Hilliard wrote:
> For my part, I am quite happy with Linux and I find is a very good
> platform to 'get the job done'. I personally couldn't ask for anything
> else.

For my part, I'd like linux to take less than 15 seconds to paste a
single line of text into a 4K text file.

Linux = Shit Stick....

Peter Köhlmann

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Sep 12, 2006, 3:07:29 AM9/12/06
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Ian Hilliard wrote:

> It sounds like you've got something seriously broken in your system.
>

No. He makes up his claims, out of full cloth
This "linux-sux" retard (here posting as "Scott Nudds", he uses several
other names also) has no experience with linux worth mentioning
He is just mad at every linux user because they do something he is simply
too dumb to be able to do: they use linux

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