Re: 55746 posts to COLA? And Schestowitz is NOT being Paid?
SomeBloke
> Get real already.
>
> And he has only been posting since 2005 or so. Others who have been here
> for 10+ years have not even come close to his number of posts.
> And then you can look at the number of lines in a Schestowitz post which
> are at least 500+.
>
> Sure.
> He is doing this for free.
> I believe it.
> Don't you?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/about?hl=en
Hello Gary.
--
I'm always kind, polite and reasonable...
except when I'm not.
Phil Da Lick!
> Get real already.
>
> And he has only been posting since 2005 or so.
> Others who have been here for 10+ years have not even come close to his
> number of posts.
> And then you can look at the number of lines in a Schestowitz post which
> are at least 500+.
>
> Sure.
> He is doing this for free.
> I believe it.
> Don't you?
At least Roy has a reason to be here. The better question is who's
paying you and the rest of the dummy briagde to come here and rail
against linux every day? I can't think of anything sadder than an
individual spending time every day posting in a newsgroup for something
they hate.
Muad'Dib
> Get real already.
>
> And he has only been posting since 2005 or so.
> Others who have been here for 10+ years have not even come close to his
> number of posts.
> And then you can look at the number of lines in a Schestowitz post which
> are at least 500+.
>
> Sure.
> He is doing this for free.
> I believe it.
> Don't you?
>
WTF do I care? You have cross posted to Ubuntu which has NOTHING to do
with your subject. I couldn't possibly care less if he gets paid or not
for posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy, nor what his motives are. Keep
your trash out of areas that have nothing to do with your subject.
Further, are YOU an M$ FUDster getting PAID to make comments like this?
What are YOUR motives? What makes YOU any better? If you don't like
Linux and/or Schestowitz, get out of here and go update your Anti virus
Defs.
G'day
Roy Schestowitz
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DFS
It would be very difficult to libel a lying idiot like you, Spamowitz. You
have no credibility or reputation of sufficient value to be harmed by any
supposedly "libelous" statements made on cola.
Don Zeigler
> WTF do I care? You have cross posted to Ubuntu which has NOTHING to do
> with your subject. I couldn't possibly care less if he gets paid or not
> for posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy, nor what his motives are. Keep
> your trash out of areas that have nothing to do with your subject.
> Further, are YOU an M$ FUDster getting PAID to make comments like this?
> What are YOUR motives? What makes YOU any better? If you don't like
> Linux and/or Schestowitz, get out of here and go update your Anti virus
> Defs.
Meet flatfish aka Gary Stewart, a Wintroll who's been doing this crap for 10
years.
--
Pride is what we have. Pity is what others have.
Regards,
[dmz]
Owner and proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
Muad'Dib
Yeah, I know, but once in a great while I get fired up over
cross-posts/posts like that. As "Phil Da Lick" stated: "At least Roy has
a reason to be here. The better question is who's paying you and the
rest of the dummy briagde to come here and rail against linux every day?
I can't think of anything sadder than an individual spending time every
day posting in a newsgroup for something they hate." I think is a good
statement.
Cheers
Ignoramus18994
only dream of. So you cannot even comprehend how easy it could be to
make 55746 posts.
i
Muad'Dib
> Muad'Dib wrote:
>
>> WTF do I care? You have cross posted to Ubuntu which has NOTHING to do
>> with your subject. I couldn't possibly care less if he gets paid or not
>> for posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy, nor what his motives are. Keep
>> your trash out of areas that have nothing to do with your subject.
>> Further, are YOU an M$ FUDster getting PAID to make comments like this?
>> What are YOUR motives? What makes YOU any better? If you don't like
>> Linux and/or Schestowitz, get out of here and go update your Anti virus
>> Defs.
>
> Meet flatfish aka Gary Stewart, a Wintroll who's been doing this crap for 10
> years.
>
LOL, there ya go. "The pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind. He
just needs to run along and update his Anti Virus Defs, then scan, clean
the registry, scan for key loggers, scan for root kits, malware,
individually update every program installed, etc, etc, etc. That alone
should take up more time than he has for dissing Linux in here. Again,
at least Roy has a reason to be here in the LINUX ADVOCACY group doing
what? ADVOCATING Linux, rather than dissing it as others seem compelled
to do. (Paid to do?)
Cheers
DFS
> Roy simply has great automation tools.
Spamowitz the Liar says he does it all manually.
> Stuff that Windows users can only dream of.
Dont' be another ignorant Linux lamer - the world is full of them.
> So you cannot even comprehend how easy it could be to
> make 55746 posts.
The trick is to make them as stupid and dishonest as Roy does... that takes
a lot of work.
chrisv
> John wrote:
>>
>> Get real already.
>
>Hello Gary.
"John", I plonked. 8)
--
"OK, so wheres the proof that hes a troll of any kind and does lots of
nymshifting?" - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, defending
flatfish
amicus_curious
"John" <squatter...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1jvqvmvigs7nn$.19xrbx9qzqjra$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Get real already.
>
> And he has only been posting since 2005 or so.
> Others who have been here for 10+ years have not even come close to his
> number of posts.
> And then you can look at the number of lines in a Schestowitz post which
> are at least 500+.
>
> Sure.
> He is doing this for free.
> I believe it.
> Don't you?
>
of activity that gives them personal satisfaction.
In the case of Schestowitz, one can only ask the obvious question as to who
would pay him? The payer would have to be able to derive some advantage
from Schestowitz's activities and there just isn't any way to do that for
anyone, however hypothetical. Ergo, Schestowitz is just a nutcase with a
passion for creating a blitz of postings. If you filter him and a basic
group of toadies, then you only see threads where someone whom you are
interested in reading has posted. That seems to rid your screen of 90+
percent of his posts.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
Yeah. The first time I see "Linux loonies", "Linux sucks", "LiarMutt",
"Liarnut", "Linux liars", or "Hadron", I know the post is de facto garbage
and the poster is utterly clueless, worthy only of plonkage.
One can debate the merits of Linux in a civil manner; there's no need to
expose oneself to churlish behavior (unless you're looking for some
entertainment).
--
Federal grants are offered for... research into the recreation
potential of interplanetary space travel for the culturally disadvantaged.
Hadron
> After takin' a swig o' grog, chrisv belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> SomeBloke wrote:
>>
>>> John wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Get real already.
>>>
>>>Hello Gary.
>>
>> "John", I plonked. 8)
>>
>> --
>> "OK, so wheres the proof that hes a troll of any kind and does lots of
>> nymshifting?" - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, defending
>> flatfish
>
> Yeah. The first time I see "Linux loonies", "Linux sucks", "LiarMutt",
> "Liarnut", "Linux liars", or "Hadron", I know the post is de facto garbage
> and the poster is utterly clueless, worthy only of plonkage.
>
> One can debate the merits of Linux in a civil manner; there's no need to
> expose oneself to churlish behavior (unless you're looking for some
> entertainment).
Except in COLA you do not debate anything. If anyone mentions something
lacking in a Linux/OSS app you start screaming and shouting and pointing
fingers and accusing people of being "Winshills".
You will find no posts from me saying Linux sucks. You will find posts
from me saying many OSS projects are garbage. You will also find lots of
posts from me advocating the better OSS packages. You will find posts
from me suggesting that command line building is NOT a good idea for the
average nOOB. etc etc.
You can tell lies and huff and puff and make things up as much as you
like - the only person you are showing up is yourself as the bald faced
liar that you are.
--
"At BT Global, our crown jewels are the services we supply to our
customers. With jNetX we own the intellectual property for our
services, allowing us to evolve the services as and when required."
Mark Kent,Head of Technology Strategy,COLA.
chrisv
>Yeah. The first time I see "Linux loonies", "Linux sucks", "LiarMutt",
>"Liarnut", "Linux liars", or "Hadron", I know the post is de facto garbage
>and the poster is utterly clueless, worthy only of plonkage.
"BWAHAHAHA" falls in that cataegory, also.
Roy Schestowitz
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____/ Ignoramus18994 on Wednesday 14 January 2009 13:35 : \____
> Roy simply has great automation tools. Stuff that Windows users can
> only dream of. So you cannot even comprehend how easy it could be to
> make 55746 posts.
No automation at all. Knode has menu options for text decorations and good
facilities for identifying related posts. It takes 1-2 hours a day to do these
postings and longer to find them and read them.
I spend a lot more time doing other things.
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~~ Best of wishes
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Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Yeah. The first time I see "Linux loonies", "Linux sucks", "LiarMutt",
>> "Liarnut", "Linux liars", or "Hadron", I know the post is de facto garbage
>> and the poster is utterly clueless, worthy only of plonkage.
>>
>> One can debate the merits of Linux in a civil manner; there's no need to
>> expose oneself to churlish behavior (unless you're looking for some
>> entertainment).
>
> Except in COLA you do not debate anything. If anyone mentions something
> lacking in a Linux/OSS app you start screaming and shouting and pointing
> fingers and accusing people of being "Winshills".
>
> You will find no posts from me saying Linux sucks. You will find posts
> from me saying many OSS projects are garbage. You will also find lots of
> posts from me advocating the better OSS packages. You will find posts
> from me suggesting that command line building is NOT a good idea for the
> average nOOB. etc etc.
>
> You can tell lies and huff and puff and make things up as much as you
> like - the only person you are showing up is yourself as the bald faced
> liar that you are.
Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
--
If parents would only realize how they bore their children.
-- G. B. Shaw
DFS
> No automation at all. Knode has menu options for text decorations and
> good facilities for identifying related posts. It takes 1-2 hours a
> day to do these postings
You're a liar, Spamowitz.
Don Zeigler
> You're a liar, Spamowitz.
Prove it, dork.
--
If at first you don't succeed - so much for skydiving.
William Poaster
Indeed it is.
> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
<quote>
You can tell lies and huff and puff and make things up as much as you
like - the only person you are showing up is yourself as the bald faced
liar that you are.
<unquote>
Was Hadron Quack looking in the mirror when he said that?
Here's one lie from him:
<quote>
And to think Willy is normally telling us how Linux runs on a PIII
with 128 k of ram.
<unquote>
From: Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <asej15-...@news.individual.net>
Now Quack *can show the messages* where I'm normally saying "how
Linux runs on a PIII with 128 k of ram"?
Well he can can't he, or was the self-confessed troll making things up, &
lying yet *again*?
William Poaster
Quack says there are no posts of him saying Linux sucks. Take a look at
the "Why Linux sucks at being user friendly" thread, where Quack openly
supports the Zeke troll.
Oh, he doesn't actually *say* it, but it's clear he supports the subject.
Well, what else would you expect from a M$ fanboi.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Hadron belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> Except in COLA you do not debate anything. If anyone mentions something
>>> lacking in a Linux/OSS app you start screaming and shouting and pointing
>>> fingers and accusing people of being "Winshills".
What's really funny is I've never used that word. Maybe I've called some
people Windows fluffers. But I wouldn't call Hadron a "Windows fluffer".
Hadron is just a fluffer.
As for screaming, shouting, and pointing fingers, it is Hadron who is the
drama queen, not I.
>> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>
> Indeed it is.
>
>> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
>
> <quote>
> You can tell lies and huff and puff and make things up as much as you
> like - the only person you are showing up is yourself as the bald faced
> liar that you are.
> <unquote>
>
> Was Hadron Quack looking in the mirror when he said that?
>
> Here's one lie from him:
>
> <quote>
> And to think Willy is normally telling us how Linux runs on a PIII
> with 128 k of ram.
> <unquote>
> From: Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com>
> Message-ID: <asej15-...@news.individual.net>
>
> Now Quack *can show the messages* where I'm normally saying "how
> Linux runs on a PIII with 128 k of ram"?
> Well he can can't he, or was the self-confessed troll making things up, &
> lying yet *again*?
Hadron made his own licey bedbug-ridden bed, and he has the nerve to gripe
about it. What a whiner.
--
Love is never asking why?
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
Like DFS, Hadron tries to weasel out of the truth with pedantic wording.
But it is clear to anyone who reads this newsgroup that Hadron is
contemptuous of open-source and its developers, even as he claims to use
their free products without coercion.
Yet his knowledge of many of the products (TuxGuitar, sudo, and Tripwire
being notable examples) is obviously of the surface variety, as if
obtained by Googling it.
Yet he won't admit it.
Rather, he makes bogus functionality claims with perfect confidence, and
counters reasoned responses from people with more knowledge
with shrieks and hypocritical claims that others only do what he does.
Rather standard troll material, I would say.
--
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase
was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"
(By iia...@www.linux.org.uk, Alan Cox)
William Poaster
> After takin' a swig o' grog, William Poaster belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>>>
>>> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
>>
>> Quack says there are no posts of him saying Linux sucks. Take a look at
>> the "Why Linux sucks at being user friendly" thread, where Quack openly
>> supports the Zeke troll.
>> Oh, he doesn't actually *say* it, but it's clear he supports the
>> subject. Well, what else would you expect from a M$ fanboi.
>
> Like DFS, Hadron tries to weasel out of the truth with pedantic wording.
>
> But it is clear to anyone who reads this newsgroup that Hadron is
> contemptuous of open-source and its developers, even as he claims to use
> their free products without coercion.
Well IMO this sums up what the Hadron Quack troll thinks about Linux:
<quote>
Linux: "looks quite amateurish"
If you ignore the reading of "amateurish" as "crap" one would hope
it does look like the work of amateurs since they are indeed amateurs
most of the time.
<unquote>
Hadron Quack - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 - COLA
> Yet his knowledge of many of the products (TuxGuitar, sudo, and Tripwire
> being notable examples) is obviously of the surface variety, as if
> obtained by Googling it.
>
> Yet he won't admit it.
Of course he won't. His knowledge of Linux is *very* thin IMO, & it
occurred to me about him googling stuff too.
> Rather, he makes bogus functionality claims with perfect confidence, and
> counters reasoned responses from people with more knowledge with shrieks
> and hypocritical claims that others only do what he does.
>
> Rather standard troll material, I would say.
I would agree.
(Quack is probably going to say something about a "me too" post, but who
cares what a self-confessed troll thinks)
William Poaster
> After takin' a swig o' grog, William Poaster belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Hadron belched out
>>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> Except in COLA you do not debate anything. If anyone mentions
>>>> something lacking in a Linux/OSS app you start screaming and shouting
>>>> and pointing fingers and accusing people of being "Winshills".
>
> What's really funny is I've never used that word. Maybe I've called some
> people Windows fluffers. But I wouldn't call Hadron a "Windows fluffer".
> Hadron is just a fluffer.
>
> As for screaming, shouting, and pointing fingers, it is Hadron who is the
> drama queen, not I.
Oh, yes. The troll can certainly froth, foam, & stamp his foot alright!
>>> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>>
>> Indeed it is.
>>
>>> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
>>
>> <quote>
>> You can tell lies and huff and puff and make things up as much as you
>> like - the only person you are showing up is yourself as the bald faced
>> liar that you are.
>> <unquote>
>>
>> Was Hadron Quack looking in the mirror when he said that?
>>
>> Here's one lie from him:
>>
>> <quote>
>> And to think Willy is normally telling us how Linux runs on a PIII with
>> 128 k of ram.
>> <unquote>
>> From: Hadron <hadro...@googlemail.com> Message-ID:
>> <asej15-...@news.individual.net>
>>
>> Now Quack *can show the messages* where I'm normally saying "how Linux
>> runs on a PIII with 128 k of ram"? Well he can can't he, or was the
>> self-confessed troll making things up, & lying yet *again*?
>
> Hadron made his own licey bedbug-ridden bed, and he has the nerve to gripe
> about it. What a whiner.
More like a luser IMO.
Chris Ahlstrom
He's the biggest "me-too'er" and "suck up", and applies these techniques
only to people who post anti-Linux material here. For the pro-Linux people
(even such balanced posters as myself), he is an insult-monger.
--
He thinks the Gettysburg Address is where Lincoln lived.
-- Wanda, "A Fish Called Wanda"
chrisv
>>
>> You will find no posts from me saying Linux sucks.
Poor "Hadron". How would you interpret what is below in my sig?
>> bald faced liar
Yes, you are a bald-faced liar, "Hadron" Quark, and documented as
such. Your IKYABWAI is as ridiculous as most of your posts, Wintroll.
--
"LOL. You are quite mad." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, in
response to the suggestion that "Linux itself /is/ ready for the
masses. In some ways more so than Windows."
cc
> After takin' a swig o' grog, William Poaster belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> >> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>
> >> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
>
> > Quack says there are no posts of him saying Linux sucks. Take a look at
> > the "Why Linux sucks at being user friendly" thread, where Quack openly
> > supports the Zeke troll.
> > Oh, he doesn't actually *say* it, but it's clear he supports the subject.
> > Well, what else would you expect from a M$ fanboi.
>
> Like DFS, Hadron tries to weasel out of the truth with pedantic wording.
Like some people weaseling out of the truth that they didn't say
"Linux is perfect" with pedantic wording? Of course Peter Koehlmann
actually did say it outright, but that's another story. Although I
didn't read the thread and don't plan to, so maybe this comment is
totally wrong, but saying "Linux sucks at being user friendly" is
entirely different from saying "Linux sucks", and not in a pedantic
way. There might be better examples out there, but hanging onto this
one won't cut it.
Rex Ballard
wrote:
> > Roy simply has great automation tools. Stuff that Windows users can
> > only dream of. So you cannot even comprehend how easy it could be to
> > make 55746 posts.
> No automation at all. Knode has menu options for text decorations and good
> facilities for identifying related posts. It takes 1-2 hours a day to do these
> postings and longer to find them and read them.
That would do the trick.
> I spend a lot more time doing other things.
A tribute to the productivity tools of Linux and OSS.
Rex Ballard
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> > I'm not paid, it's libel.
> It would be very difficult to libel a lying idiot like you, Spamowitz. You
> have no credibility or reputation of sufficient value to be harmed by any
> supposedly "libelous" statements made on cola.
95% of Roy's posts are citations of other articles, mostly published
by known publishers, a paragraph of interesting quote, and a 1-liner
personal comment to pique interest.
Roy probably SHOULD be paid - by Google or the Publishers, for all the
hits he gives them, but it's easy to see how he could do what he does
with google, konqueror, and k-node. And it's pretty easy to see how
he does it in an hour or two.
Keep up the good work Roy. I may not agree with all of your views,
but you do provide useful information about Linux and it's opposition.
Hadron
> After takin' a swig o' grog, William Poaster belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>>>
>>> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
Nice try Liarmutt. You are caught time and time again. Still waiting for
the DDD list by the way.
>>
>> Quack says there are no posts of him saying Linux sucks. Take a look at
>> the "Why Linux sucks at being user friendly" thread, where Quack openly
>> supports the Zeke troll.
>> Oh, he doesn't actually *say* it, but it's clear he supports the subject.
>> Well, what else would you expect from a M$ fanboi.
Oh! So you agree that I never said Linux Sux. What I did say is that
some of the UIs and the OSS Apps suck. But you DO know the difference
between Linux and the front ends dont you? No? Go look it up.
>
> Like DFS, Hadron tries to weasel out of the truth with pedantic wording.
>
> But it is clear to anyone who reads this newsgroup that Hadron is
> contemptuous of open-source and its developers, even as he claims to use
> their free products without coercion.
>
> Yet his knowledge of many of the products (TuxGuitar, sudo, and Tripwire
> being notable examples) is obviously of the surface variety, as if
> obtained by Googling it.
Nice try moron. You hate it that I provided the links to acknowledged
and logged problems with the tuxguitar package. You simply HATE it that
once again I backed up the problems I had with the bug knowledgebase.
Poor, poor Willy.
What you are talking about sudo for I really dont know. Since I'm not
aware of any distortions on your part from that? Or did you only learn
that be default sudo is NOT set up for users in Debian?
>
> Yet he won't admit it.
Admit what? That there are problems in some packages? Only a moron (you)
would deny it.
>
> Rather, he makes bogus functionality claims with perfect confidence, and
> counters reasoned responses from people with more knowledge
> with shrieks and hypocritical claims that others only do what he does.
>
> Rather standard troll material, I would say.
You need to buy a new brain Willy. Yours is clearly hosed.
--
"I really think XP is going to be a flop. Between the glut of hardware out
there (and slowing down of purchasing), and the fact that W2K is
sufficient for so many casual users.... I just don't see it taking off."
comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy
Hadron
Willy and Chris Arsestrom are just bitter little men who are sick of
being caught out with links to FACTS.
Their mutual love in up there just makes them look ridiculous and if
anything strengthens my views. They even admit I never said Linux Sucks
which is the entire subject in hand.
I feel sorry for them.
Rex Ballard
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> > I'm not paid, it's libel.
> Yeah, I know, but once in a great while I get fired up over
> cross-posts/posts like that. As "Phil Da Lick" stated: "At least Roy has
> a reason to be here. The better question is who's paying you and the
> rest of the dummy briagde to come here and rail against linux every day?
> I can't think of anything sadder than an individual spending time every
> day posting in a newsgroup for something they hate." I think is a good
> statement.
Many of the WinTrolls are not "paid to post", but they do have a
vested economic interest in the success of Microsoft. DFS, for
example is a highly paid independent consultant who writes ASP
and .NET interfaces to SQL Server databases.
They are very similar to the Linux posters in this group who make a
substantial portion of their income supporting Linux, Unix, and OSS
based products and services.
This "feud" has been going on for almost 25 years, since the first PCs
were pitted against BSD UNIX accessed via terminals. In many cases,
the terminals were "smart" and were in essence - PCs that just ran
terminal software and didn't have hard drives.
We see the same concepts today - with Linux powered sub-notebooks used
primarily to access internet servers, most of which are based on Unix
or Linux. They don't have internal hard drives, because they don't
need them. They have Open Office installed for reviewing attachments
or generating attachments that can be included in e-mails.
Linux has always been a good launching ground for Internet based
services. Linux had web servers and browsers back when Windows 3.1
was still struggling with 9600 baud modems and terminal emulation.
Windows didn't even have a TCP/IP stack when Linux was offering full
TCP/IP and Web services as well as e-mail, ftp, and IRC.
Linux/Unix supported CORBA and RPC back when Microsoft was still
trying to get DCOM to be functional.
Linux/Unix supported VoIP back when Microsoft was still trying to CDs
to play properly.
Linux/Unix had real multitasking back when Microsoft was still
dependent on threads and a single process.
By the time Microsoft came out with Windows 95, Linux/Unix already had
MPEG players, JPEG viewers, and compressed audio play-back.
Unix was doing telephone switching back when Microsoft was still
trying to get MS-DOS to do decent dial-up service.
There are almost no major "innovations" from Microsoft that weren't
previously available in some form on Unix or Linux.
In fact, Microsoft was remarketing UNIX (Xenix) even before they
created PC-DOS and MS-DOS. I guess IBM wanted to "dumb down" the PC
so it wouldn't compete with Series 1, System 360, or System 370.
Blix
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Go suck another cock, Faggot.
DFS
> On Jan 14, 8:16 am, "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>>> I'm not paid, it's libel.
>
>> It would be very difficult to libel a lying idiot like you,
>> Spamowitz. You have no credibility or reputation of sufficient
>> value to be harmed by any supposedly "libelous" statements made on
>> cola.
>
> 95% of Roy's posts are citations of other articles, mostly published
> by known publishers, a paragraph of interesting quote, and a 1-liner
> personal comment to pique interest.
And it's those one-liners that have shown him to be another cola buffoon.
> Roy probably SHOULD be paid - by Google or the Publishers, for all the
> hits he gives them,
All 3 hits? Nobody reads cola (pit of Linux idiocy)
> but it's easy to see how he could do what he does
> with google, konqueror, and k-node. And it's pretty easy to see how
> he does it in an hour or two.
It's impossible. Spamowitz is a liar.
> Keep up the good work Roy. I may not agree with all of your views,
> but you do provide useful information about Linux and it's opposition.
You mean Microsoft didn't really drive Hans Reiser to murder his wife and
bury her in a hole in the ground, as the piece of shit Spamowitz claimed?
DFS
> Many of the WinTrolls are not "paid to post", but they do have a
> vested economic interest in the success of Microsoft. DFS, for
> example is a highly paid independent consultant who writes ASP
> and .NET interfaces to SQL Server databases.
Mostly MS Access clients, accessing Oracle, DB2, SQL Server and Jet
databases.
> They are very similar to the Linux posters in this group who make a
> substantial portion of their income supporting Linux, Unix, and OSS
> based products and services.
I wasn't aware there was such a thing in cola.
<snip revisionist history>
Hadron
Gidget reckons he maintains 400 XP laptops if that's any help. But,
apparently, he uses Linux "at work" when no one is looking.
--
"Opening slide in movie: - Why Linux Sucks (4 Reasons) [no need to further explain, move along ....]"
-- High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
The Lost Packet
I want to /see/ a PIII with 128k of RAM!
--
TLP
- Last night I played a blank tape at full volume. The mime next door
went nuts.
- No, I will not fix your computer.
- Thought: It must be a bitch to write your name in the snow in Arabic...
- Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.
- Rice: 1.4 billion Chinese can't all be wrong.
- I'm dreaming of a better world where chickens can cross the road and
not have their motives questioned!
- If you can make a cheesecake you can install a Linux driver from source.
- Don't listen to the do-gooders, condoms are useless. They split,
they leak and they burst. And the human stomach can't handle the impact
of two kilos of cocaine.
*#* Signoff: labo-rat (find / -name \*yourbase\* -exec chown us:us {} \;)
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Jan 15, 7:18 am, Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstr...@launchmodem.com> wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, William Poaster belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:31 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>> >> Like I said, "Hadron" is a watchword for lying and garbage.
>>
>> >> And that's no lie, anonymous coward.
>>
>> > Quack says there are no posts of him saying Linux sucks. Take a look at
>> > the "Why Linux sucks at being user friendly" thread, where Quack openly
>> > supports the Zeke troll.
>> > Oh, he doesn't actually *say* it, but it's clear he supports the subject.
>> > Well, what else would you expect from a M$ fanboi.
>>
>> Like DFS, Hadron tries to weasel out of the truth with pedantic wording.
>
> Like some people weaseling out of the truth that they didn't say
> "Linux is perfect" with pedantic wording?
Nope, not at all.
> Of course Peter Koehlmann
> actually did say it outright, but that's another story.
Hint: Expressing joy about Linux in COLA is normal.
> Although I
> didn't read the thread and don't plan to, so maybe this comment is
> totally wrong, but saying "Linux sucks at being user friendly" is
> entirely different from saying "Linux sucks", and not in a pedantic
> way. There might be better examples out there, but hanging onto this
> one won't cut it.
Well, the problem is that there are many nuances, and "correct" opinions
span the gamut of situations.
Even so, how you express your opinion of problems is important.
A decent Linux advocate can get away with saying "audio editing on Linux is
not as complete as on Windows".
Not even a decent Linux advocate can get away with saying "Linux sucks".
And, when it is an insulting, prevaricating anonymous poltroon?
Forgeddaboutit.
By the way, not to <cough> suck up to you, but you're not one of /those/.
--
Schapiro's Explanation:
The grass is always greener on the other side -- but that's
because they use more manure.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Go suck another cock, Faggot.
Ooooh. Got onto Mommy's computer again? Better watch it, or it's the soap
mouthwash for you /again/!
--
O'Toole's commentary on Murphy's Law:
Murphy was an optimist.
chrisv
> some fsckwit wrote:
>>
>> Like some people weaseling out of the truth that they didn't say
>> "Linux is perfect" with pedantic wording?
>
>Nope, not at all.
Of course not at all. the *real* issue is what the advocates truly
think, not what their words can be twisted-into or dishonestly
interpreted as.
Terry Porter
> Rex Ballard wrote:
>
>> Many of the WinTrolls are not "paid to post", but they do have a
>> vested economic interest in the success of Microsoft. DFS, for
>> example is a highly paid independent consultant who writes ASP
>> and .NET interfaces to SQL Server databases.
>
> Mostly MS Access clients, accessing Oracle, DB2, SQL Server and Jet
> databases.
I'm so glad you do ... I can't think of a more fun job than working with MS
Access.
>
>
>
>
>> They are very similar to the Linux posters in this group who make a
>> substantial portion of their income supporting Linux, Unix, and OSS
>> based products and services.
>
> I wasn't aware there was such a thing in cola.
Lack of awareness does not equate to surplus of knowledge.
>
>
> <snip revisionist history>
--
If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
DFS
> DFS wrote:
>
>> Rex Ballard wrote:
>>
>>> Many of the WinTrolls are not "paid to post", but they do have a
>>> vested economic interest in the success of Microsoft. DFS, for
>>> example is a highly paid independent consultant who writes ASP
>>> and .NET interfaces to SQL Server databases.
>>
>> Mostly MS Access clients, accessing Oracle, DB2, SQL Server and Jet
>> databases.
>
> I'm so glad you do ... I can't think of a more fun job than working
> with MS Access.
If you knew what you were doing you wouldn't feel that way.
>>> They are very similar to the Linux posters in this group who make a
>>> substantial portion of their income supporting Linux, Unix, and OSS
>>> based products and services.
>>
>> I wasn't aware there was such a thing in cola.
>
> Lack of awareness does not equate to surplus of knowledge.
heh! Sounds like High Plains Hypocrite trying to sound intelligent.
You trying to say you earn a living with Linux, and only Linux? I doubt it,
very much.
High Plains Thumper
This is an example of:
http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy
[quote] Ad hominem troll
Ad hominem troll at its simplest, will attack people
personally, rather than the merits of their statements or
methodologies.
The ad hominem troll often has already lost a rational
argument about a topic, and thus its goal is to change the
argument from being about a topic, to being about the people
opposed to the troll (which could mean any/all rational
person(s) in the discussion), in the hopes of both
discrediting people's ideas indirectly by discrediting the
people, and engendering an emotional reaction from the
people by attacking their egos / self-image. The "getting a
reaction out of" goal is common to most troll types. [/quote]
>> You trying to say you earn a living with Linux, and only
>> Linux? I doubt it, very much.
Not only is this an ad hominem attack, it is off-topic.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
operating systems.
That single sentence is the one and only charter of the
newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for
the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to
discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the
promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place
for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to
learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a
place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to
discredit Linux.
[/quote]
> Unlike most of the so called Linux advocates in COLA, I do
> believe Terry uses Linux and is pretty much truthful when he
> says he has been Windows free since 1997/95 I forget which.
--
HPT