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Roy Schestowitz  
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 11:34 am
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From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:34:08 +0000
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 11:34 am
Subject: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
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"Expect Microsoft to ally even more closely with the RIAA and MPAA in making
yet another try at hardware-based DRM restrictions — and legislation making
them mandatory. The rationale will be to stop piracy and spam, but the real
goal will be customer control and a lockout of all unauthorized software. Two
previous attempts at this have failed, but the logic of Microsoft's situation
is such that they must keep trying.

"I also expect a serious effort, backed by several billion dollars in bribe
money (oops, excuse me, campaign contributions), to get open-source software
outlawed on some kind of theory that it aids terrorists. We can only defeat
that by making sure that national governments become so attached to
open-source code that their military men and bureaucrats will short-stop the
bribed legislators, rather than let their vital infrastructure be outlawed."

http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween11.html

Lots more there. It's prophetic
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From: 7 <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:30:44 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 11:30 am
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

Eliminating micoshaft is the best way to stop all this crap.
Very sound business practices to get rid of the WINDUMMY osen and replace
it with free software below:
Original article by Rex Ballard.

"
Here are some tactics I've been hearing about from different companies
who are trying to prevent another "forced upgrade" to Vista at the
cost of jobs, poor earnings reports, and loss of productivity.

Executive Management Approval
Employees who want Vista or Office 2007 have to get approval from
their supervisor, who has to get approval from his supervisor, and so
on up the chain almost to the CEO or COO.  If a lower level manager
approves, and doesn't get prior approval from his management, a
substantial charge is assessed to his budget, sufficient to clearly
and negatively affect his bonuses.  In effect, any Vista or Office
2007 he personally approves, comes out of his bonus.

The point is that most lower level workers are not willing to go
through the hassles of writting a justification sufficient to merit
the approval of a high level executive, and mid-level managers aren't
going to eliminate their chances of promotion or bonuses by bucking
upper management.

Self Funded Personal Platforms

The company will provide the PC and Windows 2000, XP, or Linux, but if
the employee feels that he has to have Vista or Office 2007, they have
to purchase it through the corporate procurement system, and the cost
of the software will be deducted from their bunuses or raises.

Linux bonuses
Company offers bonuses, or adds to annual bonuses based on the
employee's ability to use Linux, with higher bonuses for Linux in
Native mode, slightly less for Virtual Mode, because they have taken
the time to self-train and take responsibility for their own desktop
or laptop environment.

Annual surcharges.
Rather than just giving every employee a copy of Windows and Office,
the employees department gets charged for the licenses and support
they are using.  For example, a call to the help desk for XP issues
would be over $300 per call.  A support call for Linux might be as
little as $30 per call.  In addition, administrative fees and support
fees for just having XP or Linux are similarly proportionally priced.

Full Time Reportinng
Time spent dealing with Windows XP or Office issues, ranging from back-
up and restore to reinstallation of software or Windows, has to be
reported separately on a time sheet.  If this time is from the 40 hour
work week, it's treated similar to "sick time".  If it's done in
ADDITION to the standard 40 hour week, it is considered volunteer
effort, but this gives companies a much better picture of how much
time is spent dealing with Microsoft related issues, and makes a
better case for switching to Linux.

Extra time spent installing and learning to use Linux ad Open Office
are treated like training, since these are new skills that the company
wants to encourage.  Since this training time indicates a willingness
to follow corporate guidelines,   Therefore this is a positive when
considering bonuses, raises, and promotions.

Client Provided software
More consulting firms are now expecting the client to pay for special
software.  If the client is using Vista and/or Office 2007 and won't
share documents in a legacy friendly way, the consultant has to
purchase the software through corporate procurement, and expense it to
the client along with travel and other expenses (at full corporate
price).  This is because too many clients have been "giving" pirated
copies of Vista and Office 2007 to consultants, and the corporate
licenses ONLY apply to permanent employees of the corporation.  The
consulting company is liable to Microsoft for the pirated licenses and
could even face a $10,000 per copy fine for the copyright violation.
In some countries, the penalties for stealing are quite severe,
including the loss of body parts.

Automated License and software audits

Most corporations now have the ability to get a comprehensive list of
who has what software, and many are on the lookout for pirated copies
of Vista or Office 2007.  If it's not on the inventory as a purchased
license, then it's pirated.  Many companies are also asking violators
to come to the data center or customer support depot and have their
laptops re-imaged.  Some corporate desktops can automatically be re-
imaged if pirated software is detected.

There are also some new viruses out that are causing full indexes of
the entire file-system to be generated, and sending the index to some
unknown location on a "trickle" basis.  If your laptop is suddenly
runnig very SLOWLY, this might be why.

Another virus is looking for file-sharing software such as bit-
torrent, if it's found, the virus deletes all mp3 files.  It only
impacts Win2K, XP and Vista users.

Seems like a lot of corporate and hacker forces are starting to make
Windows users really "suffer" for their addiction to Windows.  And
attempts to install Vista are pretty much the road to an
"Intervention".

"

So start with LiveCDs me thinks....

http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com


 
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amicus_curious  
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 12:31 pm
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From: "amicus_curious" <A...@sti.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:31:18 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

"7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message

news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.  Here we
have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going to happen and
nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of credibility in the
forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up again?  You look like a
stupid idiot.

 
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 12:33 pm
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From: Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:33:27 +0200
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

"amicus_curious" <A...@sti.net> writes:
> "7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
> news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.
> Here we have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going
> to happen and nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of
> credibility in the forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up
> again?  You look like a stupid idiot.

He is a stupid idiot. Notice how all the other "advocates" now have him
killfiled?

 
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 1:10 pm
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From: bbgruff <bbgr...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:10:43 +0100
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

amicus_curious wrote:

> "7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
> news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.  Here we
> have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going to happen and
> nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of credibility in the
> forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up again?  You look like a
> stupid idiot.

Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

Try this:-
--------------------------------------
Yeah, sure!
    Sure they have a better browser and the only reason that 96% of the world
doesn't use it is that they are too lazy to download it and give it a try!
LOL!!!

    The real reason is that it is not any better and for most users it is a
lot worse than anything else that they are using. People do not see it as
worth bending over to pick up off the floor for free. Like a penny laying
under the table on the floor across the aisle!

    Some better product. Baloney.
    Posted by: amicus_curious   Posted on: 06/10/04
-----------------------------------------
http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=3703&me...


 
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 1:28 pm
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From: Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:28:18 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
* bbgruff peremptorily fired off this memo:

LOL!!!

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From: "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:31:31 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:10:43 +0100, bbgruff wrote:
> amicus_curious wrote:

>> "7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>> news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>> This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.  Here we
>> have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going to happen and
>> nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of credibility in the
>> forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up again?  You look like a
>> stupid idiot.

> Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

Yep.

You can see Linux's desktop market share at just about the same point it is
today.
Less than 1 percent by most stats.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 1:41 pm
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From: Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:41:29 +0200
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
Hadron stuttered incoherently:

> "amicus_curious" <A...@sti.net> writes:

>> "7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>> news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>> This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.
>> Here we have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going
>> to happen and nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of
>> credibility in the forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up
>> again?  You look like a stupid idiot.

> He is a stupid idiot. Notice how all the other "advocates" now have him
> killfiled?

Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the
"true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "defragger
professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven", "time
coordinator", "email sage" and "OSS culling committee chairman"  Hadron
Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka Damian O'Leary

Notice how you "interpret" in Snot Glasser technique?
That is, your "conclusion" is not backed by *any* facts
--
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From: 7 <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:02:26 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Thats cracked me up totally!!!!!!!!!

> -----------------------------------------
> http:/

talkback.zdnet.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=3703&messageID=77006 &start=-9927

 
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 More options Aug 25 2008, 1:31 pm
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From: JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:31:16 -0500
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
On 2008-08-25, amicus_curious <A...@sti.net> wrote:

> "7" <website_has_em...@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
> news:EeAsk.47874$E41.11007@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> This out of date tripe must be an embarassment to the Linux lovers.  Here we
> have ESR pontificating some 4 years ago about what was going to happen and

We all got over being embarassed about ESR a LONG time ago...

Compared to St. Ignucious, he really isn't all that anyways.

> nothing at all occurred, showing his complete lack of credibility in the
> forcasting department.  Why would you bring it up again?  You look like a
> stupid idiot.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:10:45 +0100
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

Linonut wrote:
> LOL!!!

Yep - it's a bit of a givaway, isn't it?:-)

 
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:42:37 +0000
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Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
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____/ 7 on Monday 25 August 2008 18:02 : \____

Yuk. Bill Weisbgerber is a repellent character just as he was 4 years ago.
Probably a very lonely one, too...

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                ~~ Best of wishes

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 More options Aug 25 2008, 3:43 pm
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From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:43:14 +0000
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
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____/ bbgruff on Monday 25 August 2008 18:10 : \____

> Linonut wrote:

>> LOL!!!

> Yep - it's a bit of a givaway, isn't it?:-)

How old was he 4 years ago. Like 5?

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From: "Ezekiel" <z...@zekerules.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:11:44 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message

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> ____/ bbgruff on Monday 25 August 2008 18:10 : \____

>> Linonut wrote:

>>> LOL!!!

>> Yep - it's a bit of a givaway, isn't it?:-)

> How old was he 4 years ago. Like 5?

Says the child named Roy Schestowitz who has never had a job, never paid his
own bills and who lives in a dorm room while his mommy and daddy pay for his
way through life.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


 
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From: "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:17:42 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

Schestowitz is obviously a leech.

If he ever makes it into the workforce, he will change his tune.

--
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Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:34:23 GMT
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Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Ezekiel
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:

You utter fscked up twat!!
Keep your personal attacks to yourself!
You should talk to the man in the mirror when you write your personal
attacks instead of spilling it out on to the real world on behalf
of asstroturfing purposes for Micoshaft corporation.
Got that asshole?

 
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:44:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

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It's not a personal attack if it's true.

And it is true. Roy Schestowitz is an unemployed loser. Kind of like you.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:00 -0400
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

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> Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

Perhaps, but you don't see me dredging it up to embarass my position either.
Whereas, you silly geese tolerate Shestowitz and his magpies doing the very
thing.

 
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:07:48 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:00 -0400, amicus_curious wrote:
> "bbgruff" <bbgr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6hg7cfFlnl26U1@mid.individual.net...

>> Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

> Perhaps, but you don't see me dredging it up to embarass my position either.
> Whereas, you silly geese tolerate Shestowitz and his magpies doing the very
> thing.

Schestowitz has them all dancing on the end of a rope, like marionettes.
I have to give him credit in that he has managed to dupe quite a few people
in COLA.

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From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:05:28 +0000
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
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Personal attacks in a technical forum are a verification of the truth of the
stories. It means that there's no way to dismiss the message.

They can libel me all they want. I don't see it and I don't let it distract.
Times are too good for GNU/Linux, so getting people's eyes off the ball or
intimidating them is the best Microsoft and its minions can do.

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From: Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:30:32 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
* Moshe Goldfarb. peremptorily fired off this memo:

> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:10:43 +0100, bbgruff wrote:

> You can see Linux's desktop market share at just about the same point it is
> today.
> Less than 1 percent by most stats.

But but... you used to say it was 0.24%, now you say it is 1%.  So it
has increased 4 times on the desktop!

On the serious side, though, one has to suspect that Microsoft's and
Sun's subsidizing of SCO had some deleterious effect on Linux uptake,
at least by business.

And yet....

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From: Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:31:37 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
* amicus_curious peremptorily fired off this memo:

> "bbgruff" <bbgr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6hg7cfFlnl26U1@mid.individual.net...

>> Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

> Perhaps, but you don't see me dredging it up to embarass my position either.
> Whereas, you silly geese tolerate Shestowitz and his magpies doing the very
> thing.

Cry us a river.

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From: Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:32:37 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
* Moshe Goldfarb. peremptorily fired off this memo:

> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:00 -0400, amicus_curious wrote:

>> "bbgruff" <bbgr...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:6hg7cfFlnl26U1@mid.individual.net...

>>> Funny what you find when you look back 4 years, isn't it?

>> Perhaps, but you don't see me dredging it up to embarass my position either.
>> Whereas, you silly geese tolerate Shestowitz and his magpies doing the very
>> thing.

> Schestowitz has them all dancing on the end of a rope, like marionettes.
> I have to give him credit in that he has managed to dupe quite a few people
> in COLA.

I'll bet you've duped far more people in your Usenet peregrinations.
<grin>

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:53:26 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)

I call em' as I see em'.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:06:12 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 25 2008 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: ESR on the Anti-Linux Microsoft Campaigns (Halloween Documents)
In article <1923972.UTzysUW...@schestowitz.com>,
 Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> Personal attacks in a technical forum are a verification of the truth of the
> stories. It means that there's no way to dismiss the message.

So, according to you, we can conclude that when you make personal
attacks on Miguel de Icaza, Rick Jelliffe, Jesper Lund Stocholm, and
many others, it is because you recognize the truth of their arguments
and have no way to refute them?

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