Me too!
TheLostPacket
1. Yeah, that's telling it like it is! (for advocates)
2. Works for me! (for those poor souls who can't get their penis to
work, never mind the challenge of getting a computer to do what they
need it to do)
3. Fuck off (for those who crawl newsgroups for the sole purpose of
raising hackles)
4. Have you read the manual? (for those who really do try but they're
lazy and CBA with doing some of their own research)
5. Here's what I did... (for those who /have/ tried everything they
can think of, even down to going through manuals and forums with a
fine tooth comb and finding sod-all)
6. I really don't know the answer to that... (for those who pose what
they think should be a really simple problem to solve directly to me
without first considering that I'm a: not a programmer, b: not a DBA,
c: not an MCP, d: not a cable monkey...)
...there's sure to be more, but I CBA ATM.
TLP
Hadron
TheLostPacket <jmthelo...@googlemail.com> writes:
Check out the Ubuntu irc channel for some great examples of this. It
goes something like this
p1> Hi guys I have a dbus issue when I plug in my X DVB TV stick. my
p1> taskbar closes down and my desktop freezes.
p2> Hmmm. Strange. My desktop works. Did you try restart?
p1> p2: Di you have an X DVB stick working on your Ubuntu?
p2> p1: No. Never needed one. The quality sucks.
p1> p2: So why are you trying to help if you dont know about them and dont
p1> use them?
p2> hey, if you dont like Linux fuck off back to Windows
p1> eh? I thought this was a help channel
p2> I have warned you once. If you dont want to take my help then go
p2> away.
p1> Huh? What help?
p2> Last warning
p1> WTF?
* console : p2 has locked p1 out of Ubuntu irc channel *
Happens all the time. Wannabe "tech gurus" talking shit. And thats the
way people screw up their machines. A bit like Liarnut advising Debian
users to use the NVidia installer even though Debian tech support
strongly advises against doing that.
--
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Clogwog
news:c3e831b2-ebe4-403a...@f13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
7. Read the fucking FAQ...... (a common answer you'll get when asking for
help in the Linux community.)
http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43327f0c6ce4d84b?hl=nl&dmode=source&output=gplain
Hadron
I remember Ray referring someone with ATI Video card issues to the XFree
documentation. Ubuntu uses Xorg .....
When I politely pointed this out I was "being obstructive" since they
are "similar".
Refer to Google to be thoroughly confused and marvel at the idiocy which
brings situations like Xorg v Xfree to the fore.
--
"Do a screen-shot of a text. Now disable anti-aliasing. Do again screen-shot of same text. Compare both. They are exactly the same."
Peter Koehlmann, COLA, explaining Anti Aliasing ....
http://tinyurl.com/33672q
TomB
> 7. Read the fucking FAQ...... (a common answer you'll get when asking for
> help in the Linux community.)
> http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43327f0c6ce4d84b?hl=nl&dmode=source&output=gplain
Most of the time that is a valid answer. As is man foobar. FAQs and
man pages are there for a reason. Use them. They should be part of
your everyday Linux experience.
~ Tommy
--
I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns
on the set, I go into the other room and read a book.
~ Groucho Marx
Hadron
> On 2008-11-23, Clogwog was urged to write the following:
>> 7. Read the fucking FAQ...... (a common answer you'll get when asking for
>> help in the Linux community.)
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43327f0c6ce4d84b?hl=nl&dmode=source&output=gplain
>
> Most of the time that is a valid answer. As is man foobar. FAQs and
> man pages are there for a reason. Use them. They should be part of
> your everyday Linux experience.
>
> ~ Tommy
No. Help channels are there to help. Some people have neither the time
nor the expertise to decipher man pages. They are an art. 99.99% of
things asked in programming/tech help forums can be answered by
mastering the relevant documentation. That takes time and effort -
neither of which the person asking has.
IF the answer is simply a line from a relevant document then by all
means reference that.
But to RTFM is obnoxious in all cases. If yuo have nothing to say better
to say nothing at all. They are help channels/forums for a reason - to
help. And what might appear trivial to one person may not be so for
another.
--
"Don't like Linux.. don't use it. Simple."
-- Rick <no...@nomail.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.windows-xp
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> "TheLostPacket" schreef...
>
>> Select from list:
>>
>> 1. Yeah, that's telling it like it is! (for advocates) 2.
>> Works for me! (for those poor souls who can't get their
>
> 7. Read the fucking FAQ...... (a common answer you'll get when
> asking for help in the Linux community.)
> http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43327f0c6ce4d84b?hl=nl&dmode=source&output=gplain
Oh yeah, Rick, the post where you nymthieved my nym to post your
bogus FAQ. This is an example of:
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/anti_troll_faq.htm
[quote]
Subject: 4.6 Forgeries
They regularly forge the identities of posters who they do not
like. This can vary from badly spelled versions of their name
and/or email address, to forgeries which the average reader would
not be able to detect.
At times this can reach a bizarre condition where they troll
using a forged identity at a Breidbart Index of well over 20.
They then at every opportunity call the victim a troll.
Larting the offender is often effective because ISPs recognise
the seriousness of this offence.
Where Forgery is done via an anonymous remailer complaints to
abuse@thelastremailerinthechain may well be effective. The
remailers administrators do not like their facilities being
misused, and have ways of combatting this. It is also worth
registering with http://www.paracrypt.com/remailerabuse/
[/quote]
Following has information on clogwog (Rick Mathers), who uses
anonymising remailers to hide his identity and location,
misleading the researcher to think he posts from Netherlands:
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/09/clogwog-troll.html
The correct FAQ can be found at:
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/os/linux/advocacy/%5Bcomp.os.linux.advocacy%5D_FAQ_and_Primer_for_COLA,_Edition_III
or http://tinyurl.com/4obfht
ftp://sipb.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/os/linux/advocacy/
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/faqs/faqs-hierarchy/comp/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
http://faqs.cs.uu.nl/na-dir/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer.html
http://www.opennet.ru/docs/FAQ/OS/Linux/faq-and-primer.html
http://static.slated.org/cola-faq.html
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
and other locations.
Give it up Rick, the more you post, the more stupid you look.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
Gregory Shearman
> On 2008-11-23, Clogwog was urged to write the following:
>
> man pages are there for a reason. Use them. They should be part of
> your everyday Linux experience.
Oh, they are!
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power