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Saeed Bushoo  
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 More options Sep 2 2004, 7:36 pm
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.os.linux, alt.os.linux.suse, alt.os.windows-xp
From: cockalo...@yahoo.com (Saeed Bushoo)
Date: 2 Sep 2004 16:36:33 -0700
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 7:36 pm
Subject: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
In another thread concerning hardware support for Linux, "Do you have
to buy specific hardware for Linux", the poster asks a question
concerning Dual Head support for a Matrox P650.

You responded saying that it works "out of the box".

I would like to know:

1. How you made this work.
2. Why Suse technical support says it is not supported
3. Why the web is FILLED with posts about people who CAN'T make this
work?

So what's the story Peter?
Are you making this all up?
Or did you forget to include the fact that you are using a G450 when
you said "Matrox works in Dual Head mode".

So what is the real truth Peter?

I say you are lying.
Prove me wrong.

And for all the others that side stepped the original post, the board
is a Matrox P650.
The Linux system is Suse 9.1 out of the box.

So for all of you that have been saying "dual head works with Linux"
please be SPECIFIC as far as model is concerned or don't waste our
time and make yourself look like a fool.

http://groups.google.ro/groups?dq=&hl=ro&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=7d96e89...

COCK


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 More options Sep 2 2004, 8:28 pm
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From: 7 <website_has_em...@www.ecu.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 00:28:55 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

Saeed Bushoo wrote:
> I say you are lying.
> Prove me wrong.

Flatness is a fishy thing grasshopper.

According to ye book of tech support Chapeter 7, verse 7:
"Ye who call the great GNU in vain
 shalleth on his bended kees assume
 the education position and hireth a consultant
 whom shalleth fix thine ropey knowledge
 of GNU and the great Linux
 by fixing what thou cannoteth fix by
 thine own hands."

Therefore you should hire a techie to fix
what you cannot fix yourself.


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Hamilcar Barca  
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 More options Sep 2 2004, 9:35 pm
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From: Hamilcar Barca <hamil...@tld.always.invalid>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:35:20 -0600
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
[Flatfish victim groups trimmed]

begin  In article <6e9f8efc.0409021536.2325...@posting.google.com> (Thu,
02 Sep 2004 16:36:33 -0700), Saeed Bushoo wrote:

> Prove me wrong.

No.

> please be SPECIFIC as far as model is concerned or don't waste our
> time and make yourself look like a fool.

The SPECIFIC model is Pleuronectes Americanus, whose common name is the
Winter Flounder.

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Linønut  
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 More options Sep 2 2004, 9:50 pm
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From: Linønut <linøn...@bone.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:50:04 -0500
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
Error BR-549: MS DRM 1.0 rejects the following post from Saeed Bushoo:

> In another thread concerning hardware support for Linux, "Do you have
> to buy specific hardware for Linux", the poster asks a question
> concerning Dual Head support for a Matrox P650.

> You responded saying that it works "out of the box".

> And for all the others that side stepped the original post, the board
> is a Matrox P650.
> The Linux system is Suse 9.1 out of the box.

> So for all of you that have been saying "dual head works with Linux"
> please be SPECIFIC as far as model is concerned or don't waste our
> time and make yourself look like a fool.

Dual head works with any two or more PCI graphics cards that are supported by
Linux.

These sites indicate that Linux is one of the supported OS's for the P650,
though the Matrox site does not:

http://computing.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/ps_508827/111601.html
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?MAT-P6564D
http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/itemdesc2.cfm?type=p&itmID=1191663&ItmS...
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-106-153&...

This article indicates it runs, though with display artifacts, using a 8-month
old driver:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=4120493&forum_...

This guy has nothing nice to say about Matrox:

http://andrew.hanenkamp.com/index.cgi/2004/08/04

   "Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to do this again. Everyone, if you use
   Linux and want to use dual monitors, do not purchase a Matrox card. Matrox's
   idea of a Linux driver is to take the contents of a dirty toilet and proceed
   to build code from those contents. A disgusting image, but I don't want
   anyone to doubt the sincerity or strength of my conviction that Matrox and
   dual-head Linux do not belong in the same document---and yet, here they are.
   My particular experience is with the Matrox P650, don't do it. If you want a
   headache, there are lots of ways to get one that are much more fun in the
   meantime.

   Anyway, I highly recommend NVidia or ATI if you want to do Linux and a
   dual-head display."

This guy laughs at the puniness of this graphics card:

http://www.micromart.co.uk/content/reviews/default.asp?Category=artic...

   "With only 64MB of dedicated RAM and 3D capabilities that would make a
   similarly priced nVidia card laugh until its lungs bleed, the Parhelia-LX
   based Matrox P650 appears expensive. When it comes to pure pixel-pushing
   power the Matrox P650 wouldn't even frighten a Playstation, but it is not to
   the geeky gamer that this card is marketed."

I like this one:

http://www.darksmile.net/hardware.html

   "Windows Based Systems

       maximus - SuperMicro P3TDDE Dual 1.2GHz, 1GB Memory. 250GB total disk
       space. Matrox P650 Dual head Video Card. This is my main system for
       MPLAB programming, and simulation/Engineering programs. It runs ok, but
       with WIN2K, I have to reboot often."

Sounds to me like this card is a bit of a dog, and everyone but Matrox is
reluctant to support it, and they did a half-assed job.  A self-fulfilling
prophecy of failure.

> COCK

Wear it with pride.  It may well be all the brain you've got.

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GreyCloud  
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 More options Sep 2 2004, 11:13 pm
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From: GreyCloud <m...@cumulus.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:13:12 -0600
Local: Thurs, Sep 2 2004 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

LOL!!

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Peter Köhlmann  
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 2:59 am
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From: Peter Köhlmann <Peter.Koehlm...@t-online.de>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 08:59:33 +0200
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 2:59 am
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
begin  Saeed Bushoo wrote:

< snip >

> I say you are lying.
> Prove me wrong.

No. It  does not workj this way

And yes, I say this setup works. Since you such an intelligent flatfish, you
will certainly find out how

BTW, your crossposting gave you away (again). Youz know damn well that
crossposting to aow-xp is used for *one* sole purpose: Flatfish is calling
in the idiots for help
--
Who the fuck is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?


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spi...@freenet.co.uk  
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 6:09 am
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From: spi...@freenet.co.uk
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:09:55 +0100
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 6:09 am
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

Peter K?hlmann <Peter.Koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote:
> BTW, your crossposting gave you away (again). Youz know damn well that
> crossposting to aow-xp is used for *one* sole purpose: Flatfish is calling
> in the idiots for help

And this time, even THEY'RE not taking the bait.

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Discussion subject changed to "A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann." by Peter Bilt
Peter Bilt  
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 6:33 am
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From: peterbilt_...@hotmail.com (Peter Bilt)
Date: 3 Sep 2004 03:33:15 -0700
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 6:33 am
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann.

And you expect that idiot Kuntman to have any material to prove his
lies? Dream up, that idiot is the most retarded piece of cunt on COLA,
he lies through his rotten teeth (german teeth?), like 99% of all COLA
Linux poasters, he is not a Linux advocate, he is an anti-Microsoft
anti-American troller. But don't loose hope, we're here 24x7 to
uncover these Linux cocksucker's lies.

Peter Bilt
MCSE


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Hacking Coff  
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 7:03 am
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From: Hacking Coff <je...@messiah.com.plex>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 07:03:59 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 7:03 am
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann.

Penis Bilt wrote:

> And you expect that idiot Kuntman to have any material to prove his
> lies? Dream up,

Dream up?

Up?

> that idiot is the most retarded piece of cunt on COLA,
> he lies through his rotten teeth (german teeth?), like 99% of all COLA
> Linux poasters,

My rotten teeth are all-American. I guess that makes me a one-percenter.

> he is not a Linux advocate, he is an anti-Microsoft
> anti-American troller. But don't loose hope,

No, we certainly wouldn't want hope running loose.

> we're here 24x7

Putting your MCSE to good use, I see.

> to uncover these Linux cocksucker's lies.

How does it feel to know that an idiotic, anti-American, german-toothed,
cocksucking poaster writes better English than you?

> Penis Bilt
> MCSE

Budweiser makes you stupid.

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GreyCloud  
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 12:49 pm
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From: GreyCloud <m...@cumulus.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:49:03 -0600
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann.

What does the MCSE stand for?  ...  Must Consult Someone Else?
But you can cut your trolling crap out, luser.
I also cut out the XP ng... no need to stir up the seagulls over there.

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Discussion subject changed to "A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann." by filesiteguy
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 1:18 pm
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From: filesiteguy <ab...@127.0.0.1>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:18:03 -0700
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.
Saeed Bushoo scratched out in the sand

<drivel snipped>

> COCK

..a doodle do!

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Discussion subject changed to "A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann." by Hacking Coff
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 More options Sep 3 2004, 8:18 pm
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From: Hacking Coff <je...@messiah.com.plex>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 20:18:09 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 3 2004 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to COLA's #1 moron: Peter Kohlmann.

GreyCloud wrote:

> Peter Bilt wrote:

>> I'm a fuckin' retard. YEEHAW!

>> Peter Bilt
>> MCSE

> What does the MCSE stand for?  ...  Must Consult Someone Else?

It stands for the single most important woman in his life - his
Mother/Cousin/Sister/Ex-wife. How he and his inbred family managed that
is beyond me.

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Discussion subject changed to "A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann." by Peter Bilt
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 More options Sep 7 2004, 4:36 pm
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From: peterbilt_...@hotmail.com (Peter Bilt)
Date: 7 Sep 2004 13:36:23 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 7 2004 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

Peter Köhlmann <Peter.Koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote in message <news:ch9457$3fs$03$1@news.t-online.com>...
> begin  Saeed Bushoo wrote:

> < snip >

> > I say you are lying.
> > Prove me wrong.

> No. It  does not workj this way

Yes it does, prove that you're not lying mfucker.

> And yes, I say this setup works. Since you such an intelligent flatfish, you
> will certainly find out how

> BTW, your crossposting gave you away (again). Youz know damn well that
> crossposting to aow-xp is used for *one* sole purpose: Flatfish is calling
> in the idiots for help

Idiot.

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Ge' zam !  
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 More options Sep 7 2004, 5:14 pm
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From: "Ge' zam !" <ge...@gezam.gezam>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:14:23 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 7 2004 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

There is really no other newsgroup that can conceivably be related to
the discussions in COLA -- hence, I don't think one should every
crosspost to COLA and any other newsgroup.

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Diogenes  
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 More options Sep 7 2004, 6:12 pm
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From: "Diogenes" <dioge...@sinope.gr>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:12:16 -0700
Local: Tues, Sep 7 2004 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: A direct Challange to Peter Kohlmann.

There is one... alt.comp.os.linux-faggot.advocacy

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