[News] Lulu Books go the Wrong Way: DRM
Roy Schestowitz
Hash: SHA1
Lulu introduces DRM
,----[ Quote ]
| I'm inclined to think that at the very least, I
| shouldn't publish with Lulu again; and,
| probably, I should also withdraw my existing
| publications from their system and find some
| other print-on-demand outfit. Is that an
| overreaction?
`----
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/books/lulu-introduces-drm.php
Ebook license "agreements" are a ripoff
,----[ Quote ]
| In today's Observer Business column, John
| Naughton discusses what a ripoff it is for
| ebook vendors to "sell" you books with abusive,
| multi-thousand word "license agreements,"
| pretending that because you bought your book
| over the network, it wasn't a sale, and so you
| don't get to own it.
`----
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/08/ebook-license-agreem.html
Recent:
Will eBooks Kill Off The Hard-Cover Book?
,----[ Quote ]
| Arnaud Nourry, CEO of French publishing group Hachette Livre told the
| Financial Times that pressure from Google’s (GOOG) digital library project
| and from the move by Amazon (AMZN), Barnes & Noble (BKS) and others into
| electronic books is forcing publishers to consider drastic price cuts. He
| thinks one result could be the death of hardback books.
`----
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/08/31/will-ebooks-kill-off-the-hard-cover-book/
OpenInkpot: free software for e-book readers
,----[ Quote ]
| Back in July, Jonathan Corbet lamented that
| Amazon was making the Kindle an unattractive
| hacking target for Linux users. The comments
| to his article suggested having a closer look
| at OpenInkpot, a fairly new Linux distribution
| for e-book readers. This much in advance: It
| doesn't run on the Kindle. Not yet, anyway.
`----
http://lwn.net/Articles/354714/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
iEYEARECAAYFAkr4rjEACgkQU4xAY3RXLo5uxgCfXSfb3Y+V7VuvNN0Z2eNGL7+2
GCQAnidOpEbK3lxL7k8OdVdpn6qV1Mp3
=NSuW
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
John Fuhrer
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Lulu introduces DRM
Typical cheap Linux freetard who doesn't like paying for anything.
Nigel Feltham
We don't mind paying for things - what we object to is being sold something
and being told we now own it only to find out later we're only leasing it.
Terry Porter
> John Fuhrer wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:05:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Lulu introduces DRM
>>
>> Typical cheap Linux freetard who doesn't like paying for anything.
That's rich coming from flatfish, a self admitted OS thief.
>
> We don't mind paying for things - what we object to is being sold
> something and being told we now own it only to find out later we're only
> leasing it.
Flatfish still doesn't understand the difference between free beer and
liberty, and that's his problem, not ours.
--
This machine running Gnu/Linux Ubuntu 9.10 and posting via Pan.
Get your Free copy NOW! http://www.ubuntu.com/
William Poaster
say:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:03:27 +0000, Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:05:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> Lulu introduces DRM
>>>
>>> Typical cheap Linux freetard who doesn't like paying for anything.
>
> That's rich coming from flatfish, a self admitted OS thief.
Yes, it sure is.
I wonder how many 'warez' apps he has on his windoze machine.
>> We don't mind paying for things - what we object to is being sold
>> something and being told we now own it only to find out later we're only
>> leasing it.
>
> Flatfish still doesn't understand the difference between free beer and
> liberty, and that's his problem, not ours.
You can't educate the intentionaly clueless, it would sooner troll.
--
Linux. The Malicious Software Removal
tool which wipes Windows from your PC in
seconds!
Roy Schestowitz
Hash: SHA1
____/ William Poaster on Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 10:40 : \____
Their heckling/'defences' get weaker all the time.
- --
~~ Best of wishes
[..http://Schestowitz.com | Mandriva Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
run-level 2 Oct 13 21:03
http://iuron.com - help build a non-profit search engine
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
iEYEARECAAYFAkr5mMMACgkQU4xAY3RXLo6ItwCgjKlJtreukXTZf9nGYD8GglOu
QyQAniDrTv7kRPCc7GdyLotToba1ED3g
=C5Ve
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tim Smith
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Lulu introduces DRM
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | I'm inclined to think that at the very least, I
> | shouldn't publish with Lulu again; and,
> | probably, I should also withdraw my existing
> | publications from their system and find some
> | other print-on-demand outfit. Is that an
> | overreaction?
> `----
>
> http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/books/lulu-introduces-drm.php
So choice is bad? Authors don't have to use DRM on their books if they
don't want to.
--
--Tim Smith
chrisv
>So choice is bad?
Idiot.
Roy Schestowitz
Hash: SHA1
____/ chrisv on Tuesday 10 Nov 2009 19:55 : \____
> Timmy wrote:
>
>>So choice is bad?
>
> Idiot.
Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
"freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
- --
If I had it all to do over again, I'd spell creat with an "e". -
Kernighan
http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
iEYEARECAAYFAkr6EYAACgkQU4xAY3RXLo4aYACfacl3E/r+eRIZDINCW7Q+ddLD
PgwAnjEFsbVT8/95tDIjFECTsFzxj38V
=TRZs
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tim Smith
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> >>So choice is bad?
> >
> > Idiot.
>
> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
distribute his work?
--
--Tim Smith
chrisv
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>> >>So choice is bad?
>> >
>> > Idiot.
>>
>> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
>> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
>
>How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>distribute his work?
Should I have the "choice" of slapping you upside the head, Timmy?
JEDIDIAH
His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it difficult
for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is mooching
from the rest of us.
He is also interfering in the rights of his customers.
It's the Ayn Rand definition of freedom: The freedom to strip mine Yosemite.
--
The difference between a monopoly and a "market leader" is |||
that you can simply ignore a "market leader" and be no worse / | \
for it.
Ezekiel
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
news:slrnhflh7...@nomad.mishnet...
> On 2009-11-11, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In article <1439943.7...@schestowitz.com>,
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>> >>So choice is bad?
>>> >
>>> > Idiot.
>>>
>>> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
>>> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
>>
>> How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>> distribute his work?
>
> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
> difficult
> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
> mooching
> from the rest of us.
Exactly what public domain works does his book derive from?
cc
> Timmy wrote:
How do you not have that choice in the first place? That's not to say
there aren't consequences for your choices. Of course, you're a
keyboard warrior so it's a moot point.
JEDIDIAH
I am sure a literature geek could give you all the gory details.
Hadron
> On 2009-11-11, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> "JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhflh7...@nomad.mishnet...
>>> On 2009-11-11, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In article <1439943.7...@schestowitz.com>,
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>So choice is bad?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
>>>>> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
>>>>
>>>> How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>>>> distribute his work?
>>>
>>> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
>>> difficult
>>> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
>>> mooching
>>> from the rest of us.
>>
>> Exactly what public domain works does his book derive from?
>
> I am sure a literature geek could give you all the gory details.
So you don't know? Blowing hot air again eh Jed?
Ezekiel
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
> On 2009-11-11, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> "JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhflh7...@nomad.mishnet...
>>> On 2009-11-11, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In article <1439943.7...@schestowitz.com>,
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>So choice is bad?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
>>>>> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
>>>>
>>>> How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>>>> distribute his work?
>>>
>>> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
>>> difficult
>>> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
>>> mooching
>>> from the rest of us.
>>
>> Exactly what public domain works does his book derive from?
>
> I am sure a literature geek could give you all the gory details.
As I figured - you once again don't have a clue but are simply making up
bullshit. Thanks for confirming this.
John Fuhrer
> On 2009-11-11, Ezekiel <not-...@the-zeke.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> "JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhflh7...@nomad.mishnet...
>>> On 2009-11-11, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In article <1439943.7...@schestowitz.com>,
>>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>So choice is bad?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. It's like using the words "freedom" and "choice" to justify
>>>>> "freedom to steal" or "choice to assassinate".
>>>>
>>>> How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>>>> distribute his work?
>>>
>>> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
>>> difficult
>>> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
>>> mooching
>>> from the rest of us.
>>
>> Exactly what public domain works does his book derive from?
>
> I am sure a literature geek could give you all the gory details.
Translation: You don't know and are blowing smoke again.
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> > How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
> > distribute his work?
>
> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
> difficult
> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
> mooching from the rest of us.
I'm sure in the 70+ years it will take for any given author's work to
enter the public domain, we'll have the technology to ignore whatever
DRM that author chose to put on any copies he distributed through Lulu.
>
> He is also interfering in the rights of his customers.
No one is forced to become a customer. Seller offers his product on his
terms. Potential customers decide if the terms are acceptable or not,
and decide to buy accordingly.
--
--Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH
Not at all. The notion that creative types live and die by the
state of the art is hardly something I came up with all on my own.
JEDIDIAH
...no. Just paraphrasing judges and genuine literature geeks.
JEDIDIAH
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> > How is it not choice to let the author choose how he wishes to
>> > distribute his work?
>>
>> His work derives from the public domain. By choosing to make it
>> difficult
>> for his work to go back from the public domain when it is time, he is
>> mooching from the rest of us.
>
> I'm sure in the 70+ years it will take for any given author's work to
> enter the public domain, we'll have the technology to ignore whatever
> DRM that author chose to put on any copies he distributed through Lulu.
That's assuming that you even have a copy to decrypt.
That's kind of the whole point of DRM to begin with. Copies will likely
not exist and originals will be long done. This is if DRM does it's job and
you aren't just depending on scofflaws in Antigua to protect our global
cultural heritage.
>
>>
>> He is also interfering in the rights of his customers.
>
> No one is forced to become a customer. Seller offers his product on his
Great "libertarian" logic there.
> terms. Potential customers decide if the terms are acceptable or not,
> and decide to buy accordingly.
>
--
The best OS in the world is ultimately useless |||
if it is controlled by a Tramiel, Jobs or Gates. / | \
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >
> > No one is forced to become a customer. Seller offers his product on his
>
> Great "libertarian" logic there.
Do you think it is only "libertarians" who think people should be able
to decide for themselves on what terms they offer their work?
--
--Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH
No. I think it's only "libertarians" that think it's a good idea to allow
the freedom to exploit the commons and give nothing back. Most other people
aren't quite the psychopathic and self-centered.
If the work is not in a condition fit for entering the public domain
when it is time for that then it should get no special protection from the
government. And that is what we are talking about here. Without that special
protection from the government, any creative work is dust in the wind.
That's why it's not treated like real property. Protecting it too
aggressively tends to interfere with genuine individual civil liberties.
...thus the masters of decryption hide out in Antigua or other parts
unknown where certain anti-consumer laws aren't in force.
--
Nothing quite gives you an understanding of mysql's |||
popularity as does an attempt to do some simple date / | \
manipulations in postgres.