www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate firewall seems to be blocking. Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com wrote: > www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested > with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times > renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site my Windows > computer has been running very slow and experiencing a lot of > outbound requests which my Sygate firewall seems to be > blocking. > Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the open proxy from Germany working out for you?
The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a comment spammer. Below we've reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers' networks and aids in law enforcement efforts. If you know something about this IP, please leave a comment. [/quote]
sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com wrote: > NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.230.58.14 > ... > Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
You'll pardon my skepticism about such a recommendation coming from someone posting from "Host Europe", the management of which is an outspoken supporter of Novell's SUSE Linux.
Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock sampurnashresthaoperator wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Appil Department of Marketing:
> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with > trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari > useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running > very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate > firewall seems to be blocking. > Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
Don't believe micoshaft sponsored fraudsters and novel's crap
Whoooop! Whoooop! Whoooop! Micoshaft is sinking!! -------------------------------------------------
Every man woman and chair throwing persons JUMP SHIP!!! Excuse us, but WINTROLLS and Asstroturfers FIRST!
And if they don't jump, then throw them overboard!!!
Google now 70% size of micoshaft and continues to grow!!!
So do all Linux companies in a recession!!!
BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
Wintrolls and their opinions are worthless. Governments and businesses should listen to Google and Linux companies if they want economics advise on how to make growth happen because they are the growth companies in the recession.
Asstroturfing for micoshaft corporation has never been such a pissy joke of job. No one in government should pay any attention to micoshaft asstroturfers or do deals with micoshaft marketing criminals. Leverage Linux and crack the whip to get them out of your businesses. Escort all Micoshaft sales off your premises if they don't sign your NDA and agree not to file reports to management because this this is what they do behind your backs after sales meetings...
All in plain English how they abused Linux engineers and their opinions by getting at their management by threatening not to train techies, threatening to block del sales staff from sales meetings, denying further investment, and denying web content. Del management abused Linux engineers and managers back in 2002 on orders from micoshaft to eliminate Linux from their portfolio, lied to investors about Linux uptake and then ran Del to the ground by missing all the opportunities from 2002. Now companies like Ausus make more money from Linux PCs than Del. Del investors and the public have ALL been misled about Linux ALL this time.
All the while Linux has grown. 3 million+ embedded Linux gadgets PER DAY being sold. From flat TVs to MP3/MP4?MP5 players, Linux is everywhere. Whether its IP webcams, digital photoframes, routers, DVD players or set top boxes, its all Linux. The electronics high street market would not exist today if it were not for Linux. All the retailers should be totaling up everything that has Linux inside it as Linux based revenue and leverage that to push out micoshaft products that don't make money. And then change all the PCs to Linux and OpenOffice so that staff are more tuned to Linux and on how to serve the 3 million+ buying public better. And then send all the product managers packing to the Far East and tell them to specify more Linux products with more features. You want a camera flash disk player that can also record TV and have TV tuner? No problem - with Linux you just have to specify - someone will make it for you! The quicker you specify and get it to market, the more pile you make. And Linux has made more money for retailers than all of micoshaft and appil combined.
>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested >> with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times >> renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site my Windows >> computer has been running very slow and experiencing a lot of >> outbound requests which my Sygate firewall seems to be >> blocking. >> Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
> Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the open > proxy from Germany working out for you?
> The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP > address consistent with that of a comment spammer. Below we've > reported some other data associated with this IP. This > interrelated data helps map spammers' networks and aids in law > enforcement efforts. If you know something about this IP, please > leave a comment. > [/quote]
There is NO Trojan and the site had a lot of traffic coming mostly from Digg, so it need a rest until less requests are made. This happens every now and then despite page caching.
- -- ~~ Best of wishes
Roy S. Schestowitz | #00ff00 Day - Basket Case http://Schestowitz.com | Free as in Free Beer | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E Load average (/proc/loadavg): 0.75 0.85 0.91 1/269 17397 http://iuron.com - semantic search engine project initiative -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.230.58.14 >> ... >> Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
> You'll pardon my skepticism about such a recommendation coming from > someone posting from "Host Europe", the management of which is an > outspoken supporter of Novell's SUSE Linux.
> But that's just me.
The same you that posts using a closed source Windows newsreader?
Roy Schestowitz wrote: > There is NO Trojan and the site had a lot of traffic coming mostly from > Digg, so it need a rest until less requests are made. This happens every > now and then despite page caching.
Of course there isn't, the Wintrolls, have just targeted you once again.
Your site works perfectly for me, and has a ton of interesting info!
What's more, when I checked it today, I discovered you're the author of a variant of my *favorite* game, Othello, also known as Reversi :)
Awesome!
-- If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or less by definition, *promote* ignorance. Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
>> There is NO Trojan and the site had a lot of traffic coming mostly from >> Digg, so it need a rest until less requests are made. This happens every >> now and then despite page caching.
> Of course there isn't, the Wintrolls, have just targeted you once again.
> Your site works perfectly for me, and has a ton of interesting info!
> What's more, when I checked it today, I discovered you're the author of a > variant of my *favorite* game, Othello, also known as Reversi :)
> Awesome!
The site is likely to stay down for a few more hours. We made Digg's front page at around 4 (and several other big sites) that brought about 100,000 hits per hour. The server couldn't cope.
Whenever these things happen (not the first time) the trolls like to actually vilify the site, accusing it of bad things.
The crossposting and sockpuppets are intended to ensure that they can link to the libel in the future as 'proof'.
They also accused the site of delivering malware due to Google's global glitch and this was deliberate. All sites on the Web were flagged as "malware", but they needed some dirt to cite in the future.
- -- ~~ Best of wishes
"I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good."
--Adam Smith -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
A wintroll using the name sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com FUDded RoyS and 1/2 of Usenet today with the following trash:-
> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with > trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari > useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running > very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate > firewall seems to be blocking. > Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
The true facts are of course, another matter entirely. Just ask yourself, if the wintrolls are willing to pervert the truth so badly about a pro Linux posters website, what length are they willing to go to to *lie* about GNU/Linux ?
Can anybody believe *anything* the wintrolls post ?
begin{quote} Earlier this morning, you may have been surprised to see that every Google search you performed resulted in links to sites which were, according to Google, potentially harmful to your computer. As it turns out, Google's malware detection system got a little trigger-happy - due to a human error.
Google's malware detector works via a partnership with the non-profit organisation StopBadware.org, who aid Google by supplying them with a list of sites known to install malware. Google updates these lists regularly, but sadly, the URL "/" got accidentally added to the list- effectively blacklisting every asite on the internet (except YouTube, actually).
Unfortunately (and here's the human error), the URL of '/' was mistakenly checked in as a value to the file and '/' expands to all URLs. Fortunately, our on-call site reliability team found the problem quickly and reverted the file. Since we push these updates in a staggered and rolling fashion, the errors began appearing between 6:27 a.m. and 6:40 a.m. and began disappearing between 7:10 and 7:25 a.m., [all time sin PST] so the duration of the problem for any particular user was approximately 40 minutes."
The error was quickly fixed by Google, and the company has promised to review their policies regarding the malware detector blacklists, and assures us it won't happen again. end{quote}
-- If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or less by definition, *promote* ignorance. Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with > trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari > useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running > very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate > firewall seems to be blocking. > Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
Looks like there's a bit of an issue: This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties
"Although founded by Shane Coyle, Boycott Novell is best known for the writings of Roy Schestowitz, a seemingly tireless poster who frequently writes half a dozen or more articles a day for the site, and posts numerous comments elsewhere across the Internet"
Ahh, there we go.
There's a freak writing paranoid delusions on the site.
sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com wrote: >www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with >trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari >useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running >very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate >firewall seems to be blocking. >Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
"This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties."
I think I'd be avoiding Safari if it allowed Trojans to be installed without any active input from the user. :) -- Martin Jay
Hadron wrote: > Shouldn't you be tucking Liarnut into bed? He's all tired after his day > insulting OSS developers and making an arse of himself.
Shouldn't you be getting ready for the weekly circle jerk of the COLA trolls? DFS says it's your turn to be the pivot man... -- Regards, [dmz] Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
> A wintroll using the name sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com FUDded RoyS and > 1/2 of Usenet today with the following trash:-
>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with >> trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari >> useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running >> very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate >> firewall seems to be blocking. >> Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
> The true facts are of course, another matter entirely. Just ask yourself, if > the wintrolls are willing to pervert the truth so badly about a pro Linux > posters website, what length are they willing to go to to *lie* about > GNU/Linux ?
> Can anybody believe *anything* the wintrolls post ?
> begin{quote} > Earlier this morning, you may have been surprised to see that every Google > search you performed resulted in links to sites which were, according to > Google, potentially harmful to your computer. As it turns out, Google's > malware detection system got a little trigger-happy - due to a human error.
> Google's malware detector works via a partnership with the non-profit > organisation StopBadware.org, who aid Google by supplying them with a list > of sites known to install malware. Google updates these lists regularly, > but sadly, the URL "/" got accidentally added to the list- effectively > blacklisting every asite on the internet (except YouTube, actually).
> Unfortunately (and here's the human error), the URL of '/' was mistakenly > checked in as a value to the file and '/' expands to all URLs. Fortunately, > our on-call site reliability team found the problem quickly and reverted > the file. Since we push these updates in a staggered and rolling fashion, > the errors began appearing between 6:27 a.m. and 6:40 a.m. and began > disappearing between 7:10 and 7:25 a.m., [all time sin PST] so the duration > of the problem for any particular user was approximately 40 minutes."
> The error was quickly fixed by Google, and the company has promised to > review their policies regarding the malware detector blacklists, and > assures us it won't happen again. > end{quote}
Roy Schestowitz wrote: > ____/ Terry Porter on Saturday 31 January 2009 23:16 : \____
>> Crossposts snipped.
>> A wintroll using the name sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com FUDded RoyS and >> 1/2 of Usenet today with the following trash:-
>>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested with >>> trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times renders Safari >>> useless. Since I visted that site my Windows computer has been running >>> very slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate >>> firewall seems to be blocking. >>> Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice. >> The true facts are of course, another matter entirely. Just ask yourself, if >> the wintrolls are willing to pervert the truth so badly about a pro Linux >> posters website, what length are they willing to go to to *lie* about >> GNU/Linux ?
>> Can anybody believe *anything* the wintrolls post ?
>> begin{quote} >> Earlier this morning, you may have been surprised to see that every Google >> search you performed resulted in links to sites which were, according to >> Google, potentially harmful to your computer. As it turns out, Google's >> malware detection system got a little trigger-happy - due to a human error.
>> Google's malware detector works via a partnership with the non-profit >> organisation StopBadware.org, who aid Google by supplying them with a list >> of sites known to install malware. Google updates these lists regularly, >> but sadly, the URL "/" got accidentally added to the list- effectively >> blacklisting every asite on the internet (except YouTube, actually).
>> Unfortunately (and here's the human error), the URL of '/' was mistakenly >> checked in as a value to the file and '/' expands to all URLs. Fortunately, >> our on-call site reliability team found the problem quickly and reverted >> the file. Since we push these updates in a staggered and rolling fashion, >> the errors began appearing between 6:27 a.m. and 6:40 a.m. and began >> disappearing between 7:10 and 7:25 a.m., [all time sin PST] so the duration >> of the problem for any particular user was approximately 40 minutes."
>> The error was quickly fixed by Google, and the company has promised to >> review their policies regarding the malware detector blacklists, and >> assures us it won't happen again. >> end{quote}
>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be infested >> with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and at times >> renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site my Windows >> computer has been running very slow and experiencing a lot of >> outbound requests which my Sygate firewall seems to be >> blocking. >> Avoid the site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
> Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the open proxy from > Germany working out for you?
>>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be >>> infested with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and >>> at times renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site >>> my Windows computer has been running very slow and >>> experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate >>> firewall seems to be blocking. Avoid the site >>> www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
>> Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the open >> proxy from Germany working out for you?
> So [snip net k00k false data with ad hominem rant]
Clogwog must be posting again from his office in the Nederlander bird sanctuary island or in the Australian desert outpost.
Not to bore advocates, for those new to the group may read all about him in:
After takin' a swig o' grog, Don Zeigler belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Shouldn't you be tucking Liarnut into bed? He's all tired after his day >> insulting OSS developers and making an arse of himself.
Where did I insult anyone? I jibed Jörg, and then apologized for it.
The Lying Hadron Cunt, of course, ignores the apology.
> Shouldn't you be getting ready for the weekly circle jerk of the COLA > trolls? DFS says it's your turn to be the pivot man...
Hadron's special expertise is in arses, pee-pees, and tongues.
Except when he exhibits his fake Victorian sensibilities.
-- During the American Revolution, a Britisher tried to raid a farm. He stumbled across a rock on the ground and fell, whereupon an agressive Rhode Island Red hopped on top. Seeing this, the farmer commented, "Chicken catch a Tory!"
> Clogwog (Rick Mather AKA many nyms) wrote: >> High Plains Thumper schreef... >>> sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com (Gary AKA flatfish) >>> wrote:
>>>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be >>>> infested with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly and >>>> at times renders Safari useless. Since I visted that site >>>> my Windows computer has been running very slow and >>>> experiencing a lot of outbound requests which my Sygate >>>> firewall seems to be blocking. Avoid the site >>>> www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
>>> Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the open >>> proxy from Germany working out for you?
>> So [snip net k00k false data with ad hominem rant]
> Clogwog must be posting again from his office in the Nederlander > bird sanctuary island or in the Australian desert outpost.
> Not to bore advocates, for those new to the group may read all > about him in:
"Roy Schestowitz is a career college student at some liberal artsy university. He has never had a job or any responsibility in his life and his poor parents have been supporting his butt for many years. Instead of actually graduating like you're supposed to this proven liar spends 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (including all holidays) posting lies to every corner of the internet. He posts to a Microsoft-hate newsgroup called COLA for instance where he finds the time to make thousands of posts each month. Really... this is no exaggeration. He literally makes several thousand posts per month to this lowly newsgroup instead of studying or getting a job. He was posting so much and misusing his college computers so much that after several warnings and complaints his school had no choice but to suspend his internet posting privileges. (He's not supposed to use school computers for personal gain.) Now he uses Mark Kent's account (another linux liar) to spew his lies and hatred from.
He was recently found guilty of stealing artwork from other websites and posting them on his site despite the clear and obvious copyright warnings. He has no hesitation in shamelessly stealing the work of others and posting it up on his website as his own in order to try and make a few pennies profit.
Other than posting to COLA he has his own anti-Microsoft website and created for-profit websites that attempt to boycott linux vendors he doesn't like such as Novell, Xandros and etc. His specialty is to take news stories and twist the headline and contents of the story into something that was never written. Unsuspecting readers will see the post from Roy Schestowitz and assume it's the truth when in reality it's nothing but lies, delusions, ravings and rants from this immature child."
......... And read the fucking FAQ, troll! http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43327f0c6ce4... -- High Plains Thumper AKA HPT AKA Rafael AKA George Hostler AKA Wendy Toiletwater AKA Willy Wong AKA Wang Mycock AKA Anna Banger AKA Susan McSquatter and many, many, many others. High Plains Thumper seems to have a crossdressing fetish mixed in with his admitted homosexuality. High Plains Thumper the Liar, Cocksucker, Retard, Nymshifter, NetKKKop, Netnanny!
Clogwog (Rick Mather) AKA nymthief of chrisv, High Plains Thumper, AKA Kutloze Scheefgepoepte, Chelatobacter Ariomus, Cyanocobalamine-Hydrocobamine-derivaat-injectiecyclus-met- zaagtandvormige B12-lijn, Hans, Kadaitcha Man, Peer Geilzeever, Nicodemus Kwaadenkloot, Gozewienus Smegmasmuller, Arsene van Tiethuysen, Deodatus Kuttenvanger, Olivier Anusjager, Quirinus Pukkelpenis, Gradus Kanusmans, Berend van het Aarshouweel, Driekus van 't Lullenhof, Derk den Klotsoksel, Hentje Kotskameel, Arie Drollenboer, Wullum Droogkloot, Peer van der Berigheid, Arend Keuvelklier, Marinus Pielrukker, Karel Klootendraaier, Dingeman Sneerbakkus, Kobus Binnenaars, Manus Simpelcont, Jodocus Uytbuicker, Arsene den Rode-Apenkontjager, Desederius van der Keutelenhof, Querinus van der Tiethuyzen, Gezinus den Sluitspierbeul, Dingeman Sneerbakkus and others wrote:
> High Plains Thumper schreef... "High Plains Thumper" > schreef... >> Clogwog (Rick Mather AKA many nyms) wrote: >>> High Plains Thumper schreef... >>>> sampurnashresthaopera...@gmail.com (Gary AKA flatfish) >>>> wrote:
>>>>> www.boycottnovell.com is a site that appears to be >>>>> infested with trojans. The site loads extremely slowly >>>>> and at times renders Safari useless. Since I visted >>>>> that site my Windows computer has been running very >>>>> slow and experiencing a lot of outbound requests which >>>>> my Sygate firewall seems to be blocking. Avoid the >>>>> site www.boycottnovell.com is my advice.
>>>> Hello Gary. See you have a new flatfish nym. How's the >>>> open proxy from Germany working out for you?
>>> So [snip net k00k false data with ad hominem rant]
>> Clogwog must be posting again from his office in the >> Nederlander bird sanctuary island or in the Australian >> desert outpost.
>> Not to bore advocates, for those new to the group may read >> all about him in:
[comp.os.linux.advocacy] FAQ and Primer for COLA, Edition III
Copyright: (c) 2002 The FAQ and Primer for COLA Team -- All Rights Reserved
Frequently Asked Questions and Primer for comp.os.linux.advocacy
Edition III
April 19, 2002
+-------------------------------------------------+ | Beware of those who would call you a friend for | | many will eat your bread while working against | | you. They will take credit for your good works | | and blame you for their own misdeeds. | | - TheGreat Unknown | +-------------------------------------------------+
1.1 Availability
This document is posted on a weekly to the comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.answers, and news.answers newsgroups. In addition it is archived at rtfm.mit.edu ftp archive and its mirrors and is also available on the Internet FAQ Consortium's website at www.faqs.org.
1.2 Welcome to comp.os.linux.advocacy
If you are new to Linux and/or comp.os.linux.advocacy, welcome. It is hoped that you will will enjoy your time in comp.os.linux.advocacy and find it educational. We also hope that you will find Linux as useful for you. and that in the ripeness of time that you will become a contributing member of the Linux community.
COLA is like a meeting hall for Linux advocacy. A place where those who advocate the use of Linux can meet and discuss all things Linux. In addition it is a place were individuals interested in Linux can come to gain an understanding of the Linux and the Linux community and to learn about the capabilities of Linux from those who are experienced with the use, administration, and development of Linux.
By using Linux as a user or sysadmin you are a member of the Linux community of which this newsgroup is an asset. The Linux community is world-wide and interconnected by the internet and other networks gated to the internet.
The description that your news server delivers to you for comp.os.linux.advocacy, or COLA for short, is "Benefits of Linux compared to other operating systems". That description is derived from the charter of COLA. Sometimes advocacy groups are viewed as a place where the bickering undesirables of other newsgroups are directed, in order to remove a disruption from another group on the same general subject. That is incorrect for COLA.
1.3 Contributing to this FAQ and Primer
All those who advocate the use of Linux are invited to submit material and suggestions to be considered for future versions of this document. Submissions should be sent by email to m...@mindspring.com. You may also post your submissions in COLA; however, in that case you should still email your submission as well, so that the submission will not be missed as can happen if it were posted in COLA only.
Submissions offered by those who may deemed to be hostile to Linux, including but not limited to anti-Linux propagandists, will not be accepted.
1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other operating systems.
That single sentence is the one and only charter of the newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to discredit Linux.
You may have heard of another charter sometimes called by some the "original charter," that opens the newsgroup to the abuses that are inflicted on Linux by those who oppose Linux. That other charter never existed, it was a proposed charter for another newsgroup that never was created that would also have been called comp.os.linux.advocacy.
On 14 Feb 1994, Danny Gould dgo...@helix.nih.gov posted comp.os.linux.advocacy-R...@uunet.uu.net a Request for Discussion entitled "Request for Discussion (RFD) on comp.os.linux.advocacy" to the news.groups newsgroup. That RFD was cross posted to the appropriate newsgroups and a number of other inappropriate newsgroups as well. It included the following proposed charter:
The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of Linux. In addition, it will allow comp.os.linux.misc to deal with Linux-specific issues. Discussion will include (but not be limited to) the discussion of the pros and cons of Linux and applications for Linux, and the comparison of Linux with other operating systems and environments such as Microsoft DOS and Windows, SCO UNIX, Coherent, NeXTstep, Macintosh System, etc. It will be an unmoderated forum.
The call for votes on the proposal was not posted, the issue died without a vote.
On 4 Oct 1994, Dave Sill d...@ornl.gov posted 37mn57$...@rodan.UU.NET a Request for Discussion entitled "REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) comp.os.linux reorganization." Thus far comp.os.linux.advocacy was not yet proposed. Note that unlike Danny, Dave posted the Request for Discussions to appropriate newsgroups only, that is a hallmark of a serious effort.
On 14 Oct 1994, Dave Sill d...@de5.ornl.gov posted 37mn57$...@rodan.UU.NET a revised version of this Request for Discussion, this revised posting called for the creation of comp.os.linux.advocacy among other comp.os.linux.* groups. Dave proposed this charter for comp.os.linux.advocacy:
For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other operating systems.
The Call for Votes went out in the required form, and on 13 Dec 1994 posted the results ikl...@amdahl.com with greater than 8 to 1 in favor of the creation of comp.os.linux.advocacy (our COLA) with Dave's proposed charter. On that date, that charter became effective and that other charter that was proposed for the other comp.os.linux.advocacy that never was created, never became anything that affects this comp.os.linux.advocacy.
Those who oppose Linux and have invaded comp.os.linux.advocacy in order to try to subvert the purpose of this newsgroup will continue as they have to insult the intelligence of the Linux advocates by citing that other proposed charter of that other newsgroup that never came into existence. They also have continued to quote from the introductory paragraph of the Danny's Request for Discussion as though that were a part of any actual or even a part of the failed, proposed charter. Perhaps they feel that the introductory section provides them with a greater impact.
When someone posts citations from that failed Request for Discussion in order to make it appear that the anti-Linux propagandists are sanctioned to be posting in COLA, as was done by an anti-Linux propagandist on January 13, 2002 in article pMr08.457$Wf1.316...@ruti.visi.com, then once again by another anti-Linux propagandist on February 13, 2002 in article d6761fb5.0202131955.6c3b9...@posting.google.com they are not only using disinformation they are also insulting the intelligence of everyone who is a reader COLA.
2 COLA
2.1 On Topic Subjects
On-topic is anything anything regarding Linux that is of interest to a person who advocates the use of Linux, or requests for information about Linux by a person who would like to learn about it. COLA is also a great place to share your Linux
...
Martin Jay wrote: > "This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties."
What happens to Lenovo staff who cross Micoshaft? ------------------------------------------------
To cross the line with micoshaft, mention Linux and open source and be done with.
Don't be afraid! It is as simple as that!!! That is how you cross the line with micoshaft corporation.
This is what happens when you mention Linux and open source.
1. First, your micoshaft rep will turn up to work you over and will know you have mentioned Linux / Open source.
2. His technology evangelism course has taught him to mark you down so you will see him furiously writing notes. Hopefully with notepad.exe. But who cares?
3. He will then plaster your name, your photo and all the things you said on all the walls of micoshaft like his good little unethical technology evangelism course has taught him at micoshaft so that other true micoshaft bum boyees can spit at your image.
The moment your boss/leader sticks up a poster of a person and point at that picture as your enemy and object of hate, and follow it up with words of derision, and rant on through frequent meetings and finger pointing, your company has embraced unethical technology evangelism.
The resources within micoshaft are no longer interested in making product. It is now more interested in smashing Lenov management faces in for profit and roping in as many retards as it can find to join the unethical technology evangelists.
Remember what happened to Del?
4. The truly enraged bum boyees of micoshaft who have no life of their own will start murmering and grinding their teeth so that their beloved Pappy, Balmer can become rich.
5. These photos and all the things you said are repeated again and again in meetings until the micoshaft bum boyees are energetically whipped up into rage in an anti-trust breaking way.
6. Now the foaming micoshaft bum boyees are truly ready to do ANYTHING including break the law and attack total strangers because their company told them to do it.
7. The fact that these bum boyees are total fsckwits and what they do in the name of micoshaft agaist other innocent people will not have sank into them just yet - that will take several years for the guilt concience to catch up.
[Aside: Installing Ubuntu and compiz like the stuff you can see in www.youtube.com with 3D rotating translucent desktop may help some of the enraged micoshaft bum boyees to see the accomplishments of the other side and may help them calm down and turn human at this point and refuse to fight an opponent who is a better soul - but no guarantees!]
8. So now the enraged bum boyees will go about trying to satisfy their rage by doing the following:
a) Call up your company bosses and directors and offer to donate money but walk away at the last minute in a monopoly anti-trust way.
b) Call up your board of directors and offer to invest again but this time point at the your Linux and open source speech and insist that you are removed along in a monopoly anti-trust way.
c) Threaten the company bosses and directors with audits and loss of rebates and discounts and then bar sales staff from sales meetings in a monopoly anti-trust way.
d) Threaten the Lenovo techies and support staff with no admission to training programmes in a monopopy anti-trust way.
All because one person in Lenovo mentions Linux and open source with his right to free speech and this attacked Micoshaft Directly.
How do you defend against unethical technology evangelism?
Tell them they can't enter into Lenovo premises until an NDA has been signed that is very very restrictive and addresses PX09280.pdf http://www.iowa.gotthefacts.org and the way the sales staff hold information in their systems illegally gathered through spying. They must delete and/or turn over all historical information on Lenovo staff before micoshaft can be allowed to enter Lenovo premises.
Talk with the shareholders and let the investors threaten all the directors to sue any director that accept micoshaft money to harm Lenovo Linux engineers.
If any Linux engineers and projects have been harmed by revolving doors that allow micoshaft spies to enter, do harm and leave, then sack the directors that allowed this to happen and re-instate all the Linux projects and engineers. You are loosing a lot of money and sales unlike your competitors like Ausus and Acer (that grew market share to double that of Appil last year through Linux). While they were making profits the micoshaftees inside Lenovo was trying to sell laptops at hideously inflated prices to hide the fact they were acting on orders from micoshfat.
Remember Del did the same - but in reality it was all a put up job. And they sank their company to the ground. Like Lenovo is doing now. Del investors sued. Lenovo investors should sue - there is ample evidence of same problem in Lenovo as Del.
So Lenovo needs to act swiftly to sack all the micoshaftees and get some Linux products out the door like Acer and Ausus and win some market share!!!
