win8 must really be great

[philo]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
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[DFS]

On 11/13/2012 10:31 AM, philo wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113


Compared to Linux, yes, definitely.

[Tom Shelton]

philoￜ presented the following explanation :
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113

It is.

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[philo]

On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
> philo presented the following explanation :
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>
>
> It is.
>



Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?

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[Tom Shelton]

philo  presented the following explanation :
> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>
>>
>> It is.
>>
>
>
>
> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?

Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
not read his letter?

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[philo]

On 11/13/2012 09:52 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
> philo presented the following explanation :
>> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?
>
> Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
> not read his letter?
>

OOPs ...sorry about that...
My "happy pills" should have been worn off by now

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[philo]

On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?
>>
>> Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
>> not read his letter?
>

> I called a friend who works at MS and he said Sinofsky was "invited to
> seek new opportunities."
>
> I guess some heads had to roll...
>
>
>



Yes...when someone leaves suddenly it is not usually by their choice...
just a typical corporate answer.

For many high-level jobs, you fill out your resignation the day you are
hired.

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[Ezekiel]

"Soupe" <soupe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:plu4a8d3q42j5m4ll...@soupe.example.com...

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton

> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>>philo presented the following explanation :
>>> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?
>>
>>Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
>>not read his letter?
>

> I called a friend who works at MS and he said Sinofsky was "invited to
> seek new opportunities."
>

LOL - Riiiiight.

Some usenet nym from COLA has connected friends in high places who work an
Microsoft who (hours later) told you what's really happening at the highest
levels with one of the most senior people in the entire company.

Pull my other finger!!!!

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The "Hardon" moron who can't think of his own nym.

28 Mar 2012 19:37:14
<KLJcr.103621$4c4....@news.usenetserver.com>

[Tom Shelton]

Soupe wrote on 11/13/2012 :
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>

>> philoￜ presented the following explanation :

> I called a friend who works at MS and he said Sinofsky was "invited
> to seek new opportunities."
>

> I guess some heads had to roll...

Well, people who I actually believe have real contacts in MS say that
it was mutal decision. Though, they do say that it was known for a
while that he would be leaving shortly after the launch - and it had
nothing to do with nay products - but, apparently he rubbed his peers
and seniors the wrong way.

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[Ezekiel]

"philo " <ph...@privacy.not> wrote in message
news:k7tvpf$ng2$4...@dont-email.me...

I don't feel too sorry for him. He's already a multi-billionaire and with
his resume there would be a line of offers for him to be the CEO of some
tech company. He should just take the Paul Allen route and spend the rest of
his life enjoying the money he's worked for.

[philo]

On 11/13/2012 11:30 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Soupe" <soupe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:plu4a8d3q42j5m4ll...@soupe.example.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

>>X

>>>>
>>>> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?
>>>
>>> Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
>>> not read his letter?
>>
>> I called a friend who works at MS and he said Sinofsky was "invited to
>> seek new opportunities."
>>
>
> LOL - Riiiiight.
>
> Some usenet nym from COLA has connected friends in high places who work an
> Microsoft who (hours later) told you what's really happening at the highest
> levels with one of the most senior people in the entire company.
>
> Pull my other finger!!!!
>

Well , I have big connections at Microsoft too.

Years ago my wife's P-1 came with the 1995 version of Word.
One of the floppies went bad...maybe in the year 2001
and I actually called Microsoft and talked to someone in person.
He said they were out of the floppies and could not supply a replacement.

Some one on Usenet sent me a disk image and I burned all the CD's to cd...
However at least a have a big contact at Microsoft now :)

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[GreyCloud]

Kinda like when Petreus and Hilary are stepping down as well.

[GreyCloud]

Notice how the linux loonies speculate on what wasn't written. :-))

[GreyCloud]

On 11/13/12 11:07, Soupe wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:38:15 -0700, Tom Shelton

> This rubbing people the wrong way could well have been the reason he
> was volunteered to leave. I suppose maybe they gave him a choice of
> leaving or being fired, so perhaps that would make it a "mutual
> decision."
>
> I was just speculating about the heads having to roll, but it sure
> seems like quite a coincidence that he left right after the
> disappointing Win 8 launch.
>
>
And that is just it... speculation.
Now go and find the real facts.

[philo]

On 11/13/2012 12:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 11/13/12 10:25, philo wrote:
>> On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>>> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>>>>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

>> Yes...when someone leaves suddenly it is not usually by their choice...
>> just a typical corporate answer.
>>
>> For many high-level jobs, you fill out your resignation the day you are
>> hired.
>>
> Kinda like when Petreus and Hilary are stepping down as well.
>

I don't know why Hillary is leaving...
but with Petreus it's pretty obvious

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[GreyCloud]

I believe they asked her to... but I'm not sure yet.

> but with Petreus it's pretty obvious
>

Why, Bill Clinton said it was only sex, and he got off the hook.
And he was the commander in Chief at the time.
So we have to ask the question why do they want him out of there? Really?

[GreyCloud]

On 11/13/12 12:05, Soupe wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:57:52 -0700, GreyCloud<cum...@mist.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> And that is just it... speculation.
>> Now go and find the real facts.
>
>
>

> "Whose house is of glasse, must not throw stones at another."
So, this is fact finding? Guffaw!

[RonB]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:56:05 -0500, Soupe wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton

> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>>philo  presented the following explanation :
>>> On 11/13/2012 09:37 AM, Tom Shelton wrote:
>>>> philo presented the following explanation :
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/13/us-microsoft-windows-
sinofsky-idUSBRE8AC02Z20121113
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe...but why was Shelton canned?
>>
>>Sinofsky. And he wasn't canned. He left on his own accord - did you
>>not read his letter?
>

> I called a friend who works at MS and he said Sinofsky was "invited to
> seek new opportunities."
>
> I guess some heads had to roll...

Yeah, Sinofsky "left on his own accord" -- just like fired NFL coaches
"leave on their own accord." They're given options, "leave and we won't
fire you."

ME, Vista, 8. The losing tradition continues.

--
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Using Linux Mint Mate 13

[DFS]

You're an idiot, RonG. Sinofsky was responsible for Win7 and Office.
He was apparently abrasive and determined he wouldn't rise any further
in the company.

He and the products he oversaw are huge MS success stories - while the
desktop Linux "community" just goes from failure to failure.

[philo]

On 11/13/2012 04:31 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 11/13/12 13:40, philo wrote:
>> On 11/13/2012 12:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 11/13/12 10:25, philo wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know why Hillary is leaving...

She says she's burned out...
but I'm wondering if she is going to make a run for president in 2016
and is starting the preparations now

>
> I believe they asked her to... but I'm not sure yet.
>
>> but with Petreus it's pretty obvious
>>
> Why, Bill Clinton said it was only sex, and he got off the hook.
> And he was the commander in Chief at the time.
> So we have to ask the question why do they want him out of there? Really?
>

Clinton got off the hook as it was just an affair ...
though yes, he lied about it.

With Petreus , a lot more is going to come out
and there is a lot more involved than just an affair

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[Ezekiel]

"philo " <ph...@privacy.not> wrote in message

news:k7uksb$32j$3...@dont-email.me...

> On 11/13/2012 04:31 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 11/13/12 13:40, philo wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2012 12:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/12 10:25, philo wrote:
>>>>> On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>>>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why Hillary is leaving...
>
> She says she's burned out...
> but I'm wondering if she is going to make a run for president in 2016
> and is starting the preparations now
>

She's going to be way, way, way too old by then.

She's 64 years old now. She'll be 69 in 2016. By the end of her first term
she'll be 73.

Ronald Reagan was 69 years old when he was inaugurated which I believe is
the oldest ever for a President.

[Snit]

On 11/13/12 4:24 PM, in article k7uksb$32j$3...@dont-email.me, "philo "

<ph...@privacy.not> wrote:

> On 11/13/2012 04:31 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 11/13/12 13:40, philo wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2012 12:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/12 10:25, philo wrote:
>>>>> On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>>>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why Hillary is leaving...
>
> She says she's burned out...
> but I'm wondering if she is going to make a run for president in 2016
> and is starting the preparations now

I hope she does not run.

>> I believe they asked her to... but I'm not sure yet.
>>
>>> but with Petreus it's pretty obvious
>>>
>> Why, Bill Clinton said it was only sex, and he got off the hook.
>> And he was the commander in Chief at the time.
>> So we have to ask the question why do they want him out of there? Really?
>>
>
>
> Clinton got off the hook as it was just an affair ...
> though yes, he lied about it.

It was an affair - not an open marriage. Of course he lied.

> With Petreus , a lot more is going to come out
> and there is a lot more involved than just an affair



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[philo]

Good point...maybe her statement that she's simply had enough with
politics is true

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[philo]

I am sure more will come up soon enough...
but I agree, it's not too likely he left willingly

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[Tom Shelton]

philoￜ explained on 11/13/2012 :

LOL.. I think it is. If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the
top. He was abrasive, he started infights and warfare between the
different groups, had a huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain
power. He was not a team player. And, I think it became apparent that
not only was he not going to take over for Balmer (as the rumors a
while back implied), but was likely to get fired. So, he left - and MS
said see ya! I mean seriously, they put Julie Larson-Green over
windows now. She was in charge of live tiles and the Ribbon in office.
You think she is going to bring some fundamental shift to product
strategy?

Face it - this has nothing to do with windows 8. It was a normal
reorg. It's not uncommon at this point. Windows 8 is shipped, the dev
cycle for windows next is in planning. The calm before the storm...

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[philo]

On 11/13/2012 06:04 PM, Tom Shelton wrote:
> philo explained on 11/13/2012 :

>> On 11/13/2012 05:00 PM, RonB wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:56:05 -0500, Soupe wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:

>>>>X
>>>>>>Xome up soon enough...

>> but I agree, it's not too likely he left willingly
>
> LOL.. I think it is. If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the
> top. He was abrasive, he started infights and warfare between the
> different groups, had a huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain
> power. He was not a team player. And, I think it became apparent that
> not only was he not going to take over for Balmer (as the rumors a while
> back implied), but was likely to get fired. So, he left - and MS said
> see ya! I mean seriously, they put Julie Larson-Green over windows now.
> She was in charge of live tiles and the Ribbon in office. You think she
> is going to bring some fundamental shift to product strategy?
>
> Face it - this has nothing to do with windows 8. It was a normal
> reorg. It's not uncommon at this point. Windows 8 is shipped, the dev
> cycle for windows next is in planning. The calm before the storm...
>

Well...I guess I cannot worry too much about someone with all the money
he has

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[Sinister Midget]

On 2012-11-14, Tom Shelton <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> claimed:

> LOL.. I think it is. If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the
> top. He was abrasive, he started infights and warfare between the
> different groups, had a huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain
> power. He was not a team player. And, I think it became apparent that
> not only was he not going to take over for Balmer (as the rumors a
> while back implied), but was likely to get fired. So, he left - and MS
> said see ya! I mean seriously, they put Julie Larson-Green over
> windows now. She was in charge of live tiles and the Ribbon in office.
> You think she is going to bring some fundamental shift to product
> strategy?

Funny that it took them 23 years to discover he was a pain in the ass,
huh?

> Face it - this has nothing to do with windows 8. It was a normal
> reorg. It's not uncommon at this point. Windows 8 is shipped, the dev
> cycle for windows next is in planning. The calm before the storm...

23 years after the guy started working there and was - how did you put
it? - abrasive, started infights and warfare, had a huge ego and was

constantly trying to gain power. He was not a team player.

Did I get it all?

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Dell Inspiron 530, Snowlinux 3 Crystal
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[Tom Shelton]

Sinister Midget wrote :

> On 2012-11-14, Tom Shelton <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> claimed:
>
>> LOL.. I think it is. If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the
>> top. He was abrasive, he started infights and warfare between the
>> different groups, had a huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain
>> power. He was not a team player. And, I think it became apparent
>> that not only was he not going to take over for Balmer (as the
>> rumors a while back implied), but was likely to get fired. So, he
>> left - and MS said see ya! I mean seriously, they put Julie
>> Larson-Green over windows now. She was in charge of live tiles and
>> the Ribbon in office. You think she is going to bring some
>> fundamental shift to product strategy?
>
> Funny that it took them 23 years to discover he was a pain in the
> ass, huh?
>
>> Face it - this has nothing to do with windows 8. It was a normal
>> reorg. It's not uncommon at this point. Windows 8 is shipped, the
>> dev cycle for windows next is in planning. The calm before the
>> storm...
>
> 23 years after the guy started working there and was - how did you
> put it? - abrasive, started infights and warfare, had a huge ego and
> was constantly trying to gain power. He was not a team player.
>
> Did I get it all?

Yes - but, he was very good at what he did, and so was tolerated. And
MS culture encouraged that kind of behavior. But, apparently, based on
what I'm reading today, Balmer is wanting there to be more
collaboration between divisions - particularly, windows, windows phone,
and xbox - and Sinofsky was now seen as a hinderance to that. So, I
suppose if he hadn't left he would have been fired.

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[RonB]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:48:16 -0600, Sinister Midget wrote:

> Funny that it took them 23 years to discover he was a pain in the ass,
> huh?

Yep. Just like the guy Apple who they finally figured out was "abrasive"
and not "a team player" -- who had just overseen the release of Apple's
horrible map app. I'm sure it was just a "coincidence" there, too.

[chrisv]

Ezekiel wrote:

> (snip)

It's amazing how these creeps try to act all "reasonable" only moments
after demonstrating what stupid, lying, completely *unreasonable*
pieces of shit they are.

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[William Poaster]

Soupe wrote:

> Yes, I was afraid that would be over your head. <sigh>

Some facts about Windows 8:

"Windows 8 security is like a swiss cheese flak jacket - AV firm"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/13/win_defender_inadequate/

MS plugs 'highly exploitable' IE 9 hole in November Patch Tuesday
Plus 3 jabs for Win 8 baby ... can they ward off VUPEN?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/14/nov_patch_tuesday/

Next!

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Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.

[Tom Shelton]

Soupe has brought this to us :

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:33:33 -0700, Tom Shelton
> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> Yes - but, he was very good at what he did, and so was tolerated.
>> And MS culture encouraged that kind of behavior. But, apparently,
>> based on what I'm reading today, Balmer is wanting there to be
>> more collaboration between divisions - particularly, windows,
>> windows phone, and xbox - and Sinofsky was now seen as a hinderance
>> to that. So, I suppose if he hadn't left he would have been fired.
>

> That would support my friend's statement that Sinofosky was asked to
> leave. Balmer wanted him gone, and it was either leave on his own or
> be fired.
>
> I think you owe me an apology.

No I don't.

--
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[William Poaster]

Soupe wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:33:33 -0700, Tom Shelton
> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Yes - but, he was very good at what he did, and so was tolerated. And
>>MS culture encouraged that kind of behavior. But, apparently, based on
>>what I'm reading today, Balmer is wanting there to be more
>>collaboration between divisions - particularly, windows, windows phone,
>>and xbox - and Sinofsky was now seen as a hinderance to that. So, I
>>suppose if he hadn't left he would have been fired.
>

> That would support my friend's statement that Sinofosky was asked to
> leave. Balmer wanted him gone, and it was either leave on his own or
> be fired.
>
> I think you owe me an apology.

"Sinofosky, you can either leave by the door or I'll defenestrate you!"

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agents.


Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.

[GreyCloud]

On 11/13/12 16:24, philo wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 04:31 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 11/13/12 13:40, philo wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2012 12:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 11/13/12 10:25, philo wrote:
>>>>> On 11/13/2012 10:56 AM, Soupe wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:52 -0700, Tom Shelton
>>>>>> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know why Hillary is leaving...
>
> She says she's burned out...
> but I'm wondering if she is going to make a run for president in 2016
> and is starting the preparations now
>

I can believe that.

>>
>> I believe they asked her to... but I'm not sure yet.
>>
>>> but with Petreus it's pretty obvious
>>>
>> Why, Bill Clinton said it was only sex, and he got off the hook.
>> And he was the commander in Chief at the time.
>> So we have to ask the question why do they want him out of there? Really?
>>
>
>
> Clinton got off the hook as it was just an affair ...
> though yes, he lied about it.
>
> With Petreus , a lot more is going to come out
> and there is a lot more involved than just an affair
>

But it did start out with "an affair". A lot more is involved, like you
say, but I also believe that the vast majority of spin will be to draw
the publics attention from something more scandalous.

[GreyCloud]

She should do fine tho. Most women outlive men anyway.

[GreyCloud]

On 11/14/12 06:12, chrisv wrote:
> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> (snip)
>
> It's amazing how these creeps try to act all "reasonable" only moments
> after demonstrating what stupid, lying, completely *unreasonable*
> pieces of shit they are.
>

Quiet, moron.
No one solicited your opinion, you clueless bozo.

[GreyCloud]

On 11/14/12 06:39, Soupe wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:31:27 -0700, GreyCloud<cum...@mist.com>
> wrote:
>

> Yes, I was afraid that would be over your head.<sigh>

But you diverted the discussion away from the topic.
That is called the side step shuffle.

[GreyCloud]

On 11/14/12 06:47, William Poaster wrote:
> Soupe wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:31:27 -0700, GreyCloud<cum...@mist.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/13/12 12:05, Soupe wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:57:52 -0700, GreyCloud<cum...@mist.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And that is just it... speculation.
>>>>> Now go and find the real facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whose house is of glasse, must not throw stones at another."
>>> So, this is fact finding? Guffaw!
>>
>> Yes, I was afraid that would be over your head.<sigh>
>
> Some facts about Windows 8:
>
> "Windows 8 security is like a swiss cheese flak jacket - AV firm"
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/13/win_defender_inadequate/
>
> MS plugs 'highly exploitable' IE 9 hole in November Patch Tuesday
> Plus 3 jabs for Win 8 baby ... can they ward off VUPEN?
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/14/nov_patch_tuesday/
>
> Next!
>

And Linux is just as easily root kitted too, bozo.

[DFS]

On 11/14/2012 8:41 AM, Soupe wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:04:27 -0700, Tom Shelton
> <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>> I am sure more will come up soon enough...
>>> but I agree, it's not too likely he left willingly
>>
>> LOL.. I think it is. If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the
>> top. He was abrasive, he started infights and warfare between the
>> different groups, had a huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain
>> power. He was not a team player.
>

> Sounds just like Sweaty Balmer.


What would a know-nothing twerp like you know about one of the most
powerful people in technology?

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee that Tom Shillton spake thusly:

>> Tom Shillton wrote:
>>>
>>> If you read about him, he wasn't liked at the top. He was abrasive,
>>> he started infights and warfare between the different groups, had a
>>> huge ego, and was constantly trying to gain power. He was not a team
>>> player.

[...]

> Yes - but, he was very good at what he did, and so was tolerated. And
> MS culture encouraged that kind of behavior.

Sorry, but that's a blatant contradiction. What you're saying is that
Microsoft encourages its people to behave like thugs, then merely
"tolerates" that behaviour, after they specifically encouraged it? And
then we're supposed to believe that the reason Sinofsky was "encouraged
to seek new opportunities" (i.e. got shitcanned) was because Microsoft
suddenly developed a distaste for the behaviour they specifically
encouraged?

Uh-huh.

I think it's crystal clear what actually happened. Microsoft is just a
bunch of gangsters that attracts thugs like Sinofsky then encourages
their thuggish behaviour, until those thugs fail to deliver the goods,
at which point they shoot the goon and dump the body, then promote
another goon from the ranks.

That's not even newsworthy, it's just another day at Vole HQ, one of a
countless number just like it, stretching back nearly four decades.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371608/Bill-Gates-tried-cut-Paul-Allen-Microsoft-fell-ill-cancer.html

--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 23 days | ~ V for Vendetta.

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee that Soupe spake thusly:
>
> So many of these people have lost their humanity along the way to
> gaining their riches.

They didn't lose their humanity, they deliberately sold it.

[DFS]

On 11/15/2012 10:43 PM, Homer wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee that Soupe spake thusly:
>>
>> So many of these people have lost their humanity along the way to
>> gaining their riches.
>
> They didn't lose their humanity, they deliberately sold it.

Hypocrite Homer bragging about how much money he makes:
"I've worked in areas of political and military conflict before. I am
one of the few who agrees to those types of contracts, which make
contractors like me a scarce commodity (and therefore, very well paid)."



Hypocrite Homer admitting his utter greed, Jan 2011:
"Meanwhile, I make a moderate income from something I actually enjoy
doing, as opposed to the years I endured doing something I didn't..."



Hypocrite Homer grubbing for money so he can "devote more time" to his
favorite OSS project for his favorite distro: "I would very much
appreciate donations to assist me with the hardware and software costs
associated with maintaining my build systems and test systems, and also
so I can justify dedicating more of my very busy schedule to maintaining
the Fedora Tripwire package."

[chrisv]

Homer wrote:

>I think it's crystal clear what actually happened. Microsoft is just a
>bunch of gangsters that attracts thugs like Sinofsky then encourages
>their thuggish behaviour, until those thugs fail to deliver the goods,
>at which point they shoot the goon and dump the body, then promote
>another goon from the ranks.

Exactly. He must have gotten "soft" in his older years, unwilling to
destroy more people so that he could have a bigger yacht.

[GreyCloud]

On 11/19/12 13:25, Soupe wrote:

> I know about thugs like the very powerful Joseph Stalin too. So?
>

You were there then?

[Homer]

Verily I say unto thee that Soupe spake thusly:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:21:12 -0500, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>

>> What would a know-nothing twerp like you know about one of the most
>> powerful people in technology?
>>
>

> I know about thugs like the very powerful Joseph Stalin too. So?

You must be new.

DooFy is completely enamoured with tyrants, the more powerful and
malevolent the better. Few people are more deserving of the title
"evil minion" than him.

--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."

kernel 2.6.31.5, up 27 days | ~ V for Vendetta.

[DFS]

On 11/19/2012 3:25 PM, Soupe wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:21:12 -0500, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>

> I know about thugs like the very powerful Joseph Stalin too. So?

So you're as ignorant about Stalin as you are about Ballmer.

You proud?

[chrisv]

Homer wrote:

> Soupe spake thusly:

>>
>> DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What would a know-nothing twerp like you know about one of the most
>>> powerful people in technology?
>>
>> I know about thugs like the very powerful Joseph Stalin too. So?
>
>You must be new.
>
>DooFy is completely enamoured with tyrants, the more powerful and
>malevolent the better. Few people are more deserving of the title
>"evil minion" than him.

What? Don't you know that Stalin was chosen by his people? He was so
vastly superior to any other candidate that none of them could have
garnered even 1% of a vote. It's clear that the people didn't even
want a choice!

--
"In this case they don't want a choice. They already chose. They want
a Windows PC." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark

[GreyCloud]

On 11/20/12 08:26, Soupe wrote:

> So one has to be in a particular place or time to know things? Did you
> have a point to make, or are you just being a jerk again?

Just poking fun at people that think they know about famous people and
yet were never there. All we can go on is what was written about them.
And sometimes those reports are false.