As predicted by Hadron's crystal ball ...
Hadron
More and more Android phone mfrs are leaving the users in the lurch only
MONTHS after they buy a new android handset.
Nothing short of scandalous.
http://www.t3.com/news/motorola-milestone-froyo-update-may-not-happen?=47451
Told you so.
Hadron
And the fragmentation issues due to "market differentiation" features
being added are well discussed here.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/20/froyo-motorola-milestone-undecided/
This is a typical example of "thanks for the free stuff" - now we're
going to add non free stuff to it and stuff the customers.
Interesting reading.
The Hooded Plumber
wrote:
They are screaming over on Howard Forums about this.
Some day the Linturds and Freetards will understand that it's all
about money.
It's always been about money.
And it will always be about money.
They never will though.
voodoo
thats right. the machinations of a money grubbing company are all
the fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
that will sure solve things.
The Hooded Plumber
>thats right. the machinations of a money grubbing company are all
>the fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
>
>that will sure solve things.
I never said it was Linux or RMS fault.
Those are your words, not mine.
I'm simply saying that they are clueless with their freedom, mom and
apple pie marketing theories.
Why?
Because somewhere, somehow, someway, someone is making a buck off the
work of others.
Others = suckers.
voodoo
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:33:31 GMT, voodoo <voo...@tootycar.net> wrote:
>
>
>>thats right. the machinations of a money grubbing company are all the
>>fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
>>
>>that will sure solve things.
>
> I never said it was Linux or RMS fault. Those are your words, not mine.
>
> I'm simply saying that they are clueless with their freedom, mom and
> apple pie marketing theories.
yeah. quality, integrity, honest days work. you will never get ahead
with those character faults. bill gates led the way to showing us how
to do it right.
and freedom! phah. animals dont have rights.
> Why?
>
> Because somewhere, somehow, someway, someone is making a buck off the
> work of others.
>
> Others = suckers.
yes that is right. corporate freetards. just like when bill gates
company corbis took out a patent on the ideas and work of infoflows.
those infoflows suckers didnt take steps to protect their work so
gates company picked it up and ran with it. make a buck off the
work of others. nothing wrong with that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/technology/19startup.html?_r=3&ref=business&pagewanted=all
most of infoflows work was in the public domain anyway. so why shouldnt corbis
get a patent on it?
Chris Ahlstrom
The article discusses whether an Android upgrade is coming to a particular
model of phone in Europe.
This does seem like a strange move however, as the US version of the
phone, the Motorola Droid, is reportedly receiving an update. It also
begs the question as to why Google rolls out such updates when Moto and
HTC both struggle to get them working on their phones in good time.
Currently only the soon-to-be-defunct Nexus One officially rocks Android
2.2.
How do you feel about Motorola's indecision? Is Google rolling out
too may updates or does it need to be tougher with its partners and make
the upgrade quicker? Tell us now on Facebook and Twitter.
Kinda makes me glad I passed on the Motorola Backflip, though.
--
Formatted to fit your screen.
Chris Ahlstrom
> Hadron<hadro...@gmail.com> writes:
Indeed. Be wary of Motorola seems to be the message.
This article is more interesting:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/21/android-22-developers-perspective/
So, on the surface, it appears that Android 2.2 is goodness with few
downsides. Of course, with the SDK only being available for ~36 hours, we
may yet run into major regressions or other calamities. But Froyo went
how I would expect Gingerbread and future releases to go -- the core
remains largely unchanged, new APIs are added you can optionally
leverage, and lots of stuff gets added around and outside of app
development.
--
If God had wanted us to be concerned for the plight of the toads, he would
have made them cute and furry.
-- Dave Barry
chrisv
>the machinations of a money grubbing company are all
>the fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
>
>that will sure solve things.
Or, maybe we'd be better off if one "benevolent" company like
Micro$oft controlled things. No real competition, and "Here's the
product, here's the price, we've got you locked-in." for consumers.
No one would be screwed by THAT situation... (rolling eyes)
--
"I wonder what this hypocritical thinks of Ubuntu or Red Hat or ....
<insert hundreds of companies who make money from others peoples
work>." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, trying imply that
using FOSS for commercial reasons is somehow immoral
The Hooded Plumber
>On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:02:10 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:33:31 GMT, voodoo <voo...@tootycar.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>thats right. the machinations of a money grubbing company are all the
>>>fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
>>>
>>>that will sure solve things.
>>
>> I never said it was Linux or RMS fault. Those are your words, not mine.
>>
>> I'm simply saying that they are clueless with their freedom, mom and
>> apple pie marketing theories.
>
>yeah. quality, integrity, honest days work. you will never get ahead
>with those character faults. bill gates led the way to showing us how
>to do it right.
You seem to have a problem with basic reading comprehension.
Again, I never said that.
You are saying that.
Are you retarded?
Just asking.
ZnU
chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> voodoo wrote:
>
> >the machinations of a money grubbing company are all
> >the fault of linus and rms. how about we outlaw money.
> >
> >that will sure solve things.
>
> Or, maybe we'd be better off if one "benevolent" company like
> Micro$oft controlled things. No real competition, and "Here's the
> product, here's the price, we've got you locked-in." for consumers.
>
> No one would be screwed by THAT situation... (rolling eyes)
False dichotomy. The reasonable alternative to Android being controlled
by user-hostile carriers and clueless hardware makers is Android being
more centrally controlled by _Google_, which tends to be less
user-hostile and less clueless than most companies.
I mean, except in this case, where they seem to have deliberately thrown
end users to the wolves, so that the wolves will pre-install Android on
their devices and help it gain market share.
Google has to see the downsides here. Their lack of control over Android
hurts them more than anyone, because despite giving handset makers a
free OS, Google can't even guarantee that their services will be
featured in it. My guess is that Google is willing to accept this
because they prefer fragmentation to a unified OS controlled by _someone
else_ (presumably Apple), which they saw the long-term possibility of.
--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
chrisv
>False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
scenario.
Clogwog
news:sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com...
There are no second prizes, you fool, every word ZnU said is true!
Now slink away like a true retard!
ZnU
chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
Hadron
> In article <sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com>,
> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> ZnU wrote:
>>
>> >False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>
>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>> scenario.
>
> Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
> disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
poster. Amazing ...
chrisv
> chrisv wrote:
>
>> ZnU wrote:
>>
>> >False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>
>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>> scenario.
>
>Do you do this in the real world?
I don't do it anywhere, to decent, honest people.
>When someone says something you
>disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
You led-off your post falsely attacking me for some alleged error of
logic. My response to your trolling was quite appropriate.
Clogwog
Real meaning:
Anyone who dares to disagree with me, I call a "fscking moron" and a
"troll"!
Chris Ahlstrom
> ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> writes:
Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
--
In case of injury notify your superior immediately. He'll kiss it and
make it better.
DFS
turd's just a vicious child who uses Windows to make a living, and
defrauds his employer by posting on company time - just like his
sycophant Linosuck.
DFS
How utterly retarded do you have to be to give away your work and let
IBM and RedHat and others profit off it?
The Hooded Plumber
>How utterly retarded do you have to be to give away your work and let
>IBM and RedHat and others profit off it?
Exactly!
IBM, Redhat and others are laughing all the way to the bank while most
FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to paycheck.
To each his own I suppose.
voodoo
not at all. you are linking the irresponsible actions of motorola
with linturds and freetards. that would include linux and rms.
> Again, I never said that.
> You are saying that.
you are praising the predatory marketing and business practices of
bill gates and insulting the clueless fascination with freedom that
linturds have.
a mocking response is very appropriate.
> Are you retarded?
are you asking because of personal experience? does throwing insults
at rex stretch your mental facilities? is that why you think i have
trouble like that?
> Just asking.
just asking
voodoo
wow! you get to decide the motives, attitudes, preferences, and priorities
of everyone. congratulations on your promotion to minor godlet. you have
been so humble and quiet about that, nobody knew. obviously any deviation
from your views are perverted and disgusting so we will have our work cut
out to put that right.
when god goes on vacation next year will he leave you in charge?
REPENT YE LINUX LOONS. THE TIME OF JUDGMENT IS NEIGH. CONFESS BEFORE IT IS
TOO LATE.
voodoo
everything is a commercial transaction for you. interesting.
how much do you pay your friends so they will let you hang out with them?
Hadron
Well done. You win the "most retarded analogy of the year" award and its
still only July!
chrisv
> Hadron quacked:
>>
>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>> poster. Amazing ...
>
>Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
I am. "Hadron" is a liar.
>Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
"Hadron" seems amazed that I'm not "insightful" when merely
slapping-down a stupid troll.
--
"Dependency errors are rife in most distros." - "True Linux
advocate" Hadron Quark
chrisv
>>>How utterly retarded do you have to be to give away your work and let
>>>IBM and RedHat and others profit off it?
>>
>> Exactly!
>> IBM, Redhat and others are laughing all the way to the bank while most
>> FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to paycheck.
>>
>> To each his own I suppose.
>
>everything is a commercial transaction for you. interesting.
>
>how much do you pay your friends so they will let you hang out with them?
Troll1: (Something stupid and twisted and wrong)
Troll2: Exactly!
Amazing.
It seems they miss the fact that the person (or the organization
paying the person) wasn't just doing the work to benefit others. They
did it because they wanted to benefit from the result themselves. The
task was *greatly* facilitated because they could build-upon the work
of others, instead of starting from scratch.
This is the beauty of FOSS. A continuous chain of people
building-upon the work of others, with *huge* gains in efficiency and
*everyone* benefitting.
Chris Ahlstrom
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Hadron quacked:
>>>
>>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>>> poster. Amazing ...
>>
>>Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
>
> I am. "Hadron" is a liar.
>
>>Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
>
> "Hadron" seems amazed that I'm not "insightful" when merely
> slapping-down a stupid troll.
Personally, though, I get tired of doing slap-downs after awhile,
and of reading them. Unless they're also funny, of course.
Tattoo comes out with some nice zingers :-D
--
Therefore it is necessary to learn how not to be good, and to use
this knowledge and not use it, according to the necessity of the cause.
-- Machiavelli
Marti van Lin
> Hadron posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> In article <sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com>,
>>> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ZnU wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>>>> scenario.
>>>
>>> Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
>>> disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
>>
>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>> poster. Amazing ...
>
> Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
Well he is, not only /sometimes/
>
> Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
>
Most GNU/Linux users in this group do *most of the time*.
Chirsv only attacks those o *deserve* it.
Cheers
--
|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin, alias ML2MST
|_|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040
|0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin
DFS
A real friend wouldn't accept money - and not share it - just for
letting you hang out with them.
IBM and RedHat are profiteers and freeloaders, as are most Linux users.
Want evidence? Sure thing:
http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/6/6c/Opensuse_survey_102_data_final.pdf
More than 27,000 respondents.
Question 13: 84.7% say they are "not involved at all" in the Suse
project. That means no bug reporting and no creating patches or
packages and no participating in mailing list discussions.
Only 8.2% say they submit bug reports.
Question 15: 77.5% say they get openSuse by downloading it from the Suse
homepage.
Multiply 84.7% * 77.5% and you find that approx. 66% of your "community"
is a pack of freeloading freetards that take and take and give nothing
at all back.
And there's no reason whatsoever to believe that number is appreciably
different in any other Linux distro.
DFS
> On 26-07-10 22:55, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Hadron posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> ZnU<z...@fake.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article<sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com>,
>>>> chrisv<chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ZnU wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>>>>> scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
>>>> disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
>>>
>>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>>> poster. Amazing ...
>>
>> Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
>
> Well he is, not only /sometimes/
huh - calling chrisv an 'amazing' poster? Where's your self-esteem,
Marti?
>> Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
>>
> Most GNU/Linux users in this group do *most of the time*.
The small part left over after the lies and idiocy is "good".
> Chirsv only attacks those o *deserve* it.
Then why hasn't he slit his own throat?
> Cheers
>
Hadron
> On 26-07-10 22:55, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Hadron posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>>
>>> ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article <sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com>,
>>>> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ZnU wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>>>>> scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
>>>> disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
>>>
>>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>>> poster. Amazing ...
>>
>> Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
>
> Well he is, not only /sometimes/
Put it away Marti. Creepy is in the way ...
>>
>> Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
>>
> Most GNU/Linux users in this group do *most of the time*.
>
> Chirsv only attacks those o *deserve* it.
>
> Cheers
Chrisv is a vicious little turd who offers nothing to Linux advocacy.
The Hooded Plumber
wrote:
>> everything is a commercial transaction for you. interesting.
>>
>> how much do you pay your friends so they will let you hang out with them?
>
>
>Well done. You win the "most retarded analogy of the year" award and its
>still only July!
This voodoo moron wins the award for retard of the year.
He seems to have a major problem with reading comprehension.
No wonder his village banished him.
The Hooded Plumber
>On 7/27/2010 10:37 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
>> Well he is, not only /sometimes/
>
>huh - calling chrisv an 'amazing' poster? Where's your self-esteem,
>Marti?
His master Spamowitz told him he didn't have any self esteem and of
course Marti believed him.
Sad.
Very sad.
Ezekiel
"Chris Ahlstrom" <ahls...@launchmodem.com> wrote in message
news:i2ksor$tm5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Hadron posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> In article <sufr46dk8aa4ipm81...@4ax.com>,
>>> chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ZnU wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >False dichotomy. (snipped, unread)
>>>>
>>>> Wrong again, you fscking moron. I simply presented an alternative
>>>> scenario.
>>>
>>> Do you do this in the real world? When someone says something you
>>> disagree with, do you just cut them off and shout obscenities at them?
>>
>> Just to remind you that Chris A thinks chrisv is an insightful
>> poster. Amazing ...
>
> Not amazing. Sometimes he *is*.
And sometimes a broken clock has the correct time. But that doesn't make it
useful the remaining 99.9% of the time.
> Everyone has something good to say *sometime*. ;->
'always' 'never' 'everybody' - if you use the exact literal definition of
the word then sure. But for all practical purposes a broken clock which
*sometimes* tells the correct time is completely useless. And those morons
you consider "insightful posters" are just as useless.
Chris Ahlstrom
> Chrisv is a vicious little turd who offers nothing to Linux advocacy.
What does that make you, then?
--
What are you waffling on about now Raytard? Are you now saying that MS
dont do due diligence? They ship an OS that is on about 1000 x more
machines than Linux. Shit happens in SW. But they, in fairness to them,
support a lot of HW and SW and maintain quite a good level of backward
compatibility.
It takes a real know nothing idiot to claim they are useless and that
OSS exceeds their standards. Hint : Vista was not the best. But it was
still good enough for many. Win 7, bleugh, has won the begrudgers over.
Why so bitter and clueless. Why do you keep talking about Windows
Raytard?
. . .
You're beginning to sound like Liarsuck.
-- "Hadron" <mtjuc7-...@news.eternal-september.org>
voodoo
> On 7/27/2010 2:40 AM, voodoo wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:46:33 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:20:26 -0400, DFS<nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> How utterly retarded do you have to be to give away your work and let
>>>> IBM and RedHat and others profit off it?
>>>
>>> Exactly!
>>> IBM, Redhat and others are laughing all the way to the bank while most
>>> FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to paycheck.
>>>
>>> To each his own I suppose.
>>
>> everything is a commercial transaction for you. interesting.
>>
>> how much do you pay your friends so they will let you hang out with
>> them?
(omg! just look what shows up overnight in usenet. dfs starts this off
intelligently so lets be serious here)
> A real friend wouldn't accept money
that is right. there are many motivations for having friends.
beer buddies to war comrades. social clubs and hobbies.
money need not play any any significant role.
> - and not share it
(then dfs just fucking blows it. geez, does he have the microsoft security
programmers scripting this? such an opening! you could drive a big fat
worm, a virus, and three trojans through it. enough of the serious.)
whoa. back up. lets see that again.
> A real friend wouldn't accept money - and not share it - just for
> letting you hang out with them.
and not share it? and not share it? always the thrifty soul that
you are, you insist on rebates with your purchase of friends?
what store do you go to? is it a franchise operation?
> IBM and RedHat are profiteers and freeloaders, as are most Linux users.
>
>
> Want evidence? Sure thing:
>
>
> http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/6/6c/Opensuse_survey_102_data_final.pdf
>
> More than 27,000 respondents.
blah, blah, blah. all those foss programmers gave up their code with a smile.
the same cannot be said when corporate freetards gets involved. do you
remember the link you posted about bill gates company corbis?
here is that link again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/19/technology/19startup.html?_r=3&ref=business&pagewanted=all
this is the story about that corporate freetard corbis getting a patent on
infoflows ideas and than saying oh so what? those ideas were in the public
domain. did those freetards really get a patent on public domain ideas?
corbis lost the lawsuit by the way.
do you see any difference in attitude between corporate freetards and foss
freetards?
voodoo
dont you be bringing cars into this thread.
the hooded plumber and dfs are fixated on money. they have displayed an
incapacity to believe that human activity can be driven by anything else.
it is not a big leap of the imagination that this includes their social
life. what is so hard to understand?
Mithrandir
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Micro$oft will soon die away (like IBM) and Google will try to rule
Earth. Micro$oft will go down as "that tech company that when wrong."
Google will, someday, go down as "that tech company that made a bundle
off of open source programs and stealing user data." (Like anyone
believes their stupid excuse "We dun know dat we was doin' dat.")
And where will Linux be? Somewhere in between, wherever us crabby
Usenetters are, there's Linux. :)
That's my two cents, anyway. (If someone here doesn't shoot me down,
Piers Morgan probably will. Not that I watch that show, of course.)
Regards.
- --
People should read more.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:MithrandirAgain
"All that is gold does not glitter,
not all those who wander are lost;
the old that is strong does not wither,
deep roots are not reached by the frost.
- From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
a light from the shadows shall spring;
renewed shall be blade that was broken,
the crownless again shall be king."
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DFS
> Micro$oft will soon die away
Well of course they will... real soon now.
MS was "officially dying very quickly" 4 years ago, according to our
resident loonie-bin reject Dr. Roy Spamowitz.
chrisv
> Quack snotted:
>>
>> Chrisv is a vicious little turd who offers nothing to Linux advocacy.
That's quite an endorsement, Larry, considering that you are
*incapable* of being honest, in regards to a FOSS advocate.
>What does that make you, then?
Larry Qualig is a Linux-hating, lying asshole.
--
'Most of us also know that most "advocates" are freetards and pirate
on a regular basis.' - Hadron Quark, lying shamelessly
DFS
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Quack snotted:
>>>
>>> Chrisv is a vicious little turd who offers nothing to Linux advocacy.
>
> That's quite an endorsement, Larry, considering that you are
> *incapable* of being honest, in regards to a FOSS advocate.
>
>> What does that make you, then?
>
> Larry Qualig is a Linux-hating, lying asshole.
Why are you lying about Larry Qualig behind his back, you piece of shit?
He hasn't posted in this thread - in fact he's hardly posted for a month.
Hadron
The turd thinks I am someone called "Larry".
Also note him continuing this nonsense about me hating Linux. Seriously,
do you ever see me hating Linux?!?!??! I hate vicious, nasty, dishonest
little turds like the "original chrisv". It beggars belief that Creepy
actually sucks up to him and openly admires his contributions. I can not
think of, off hand, of a single decent advocacy post the turd has ever
made.
Chris Ahlstrom
> DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
It figures, as your confabulations of people's posts here are legendary.
I've seen one, maybe two posts here in COLA where you actually praised an
OSS product, without also including a lie or insult concerning another
poster.
chrisv has made a notable number of reasonable and decent advocacy posts.
As for bile, I think a word count would put you ahead of chrisv on that
score. "Turd", "Creepy" in the same post where you tell someone else off!
I personally don't mind the occasion curse and jibe, especially if leavened
with sardonic humor. But it gets to be too much on both sides. A pinch of
salt is all that is needed.
--
The better part of valor is discretion.
-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"
chrisv
> Hadron quacked:
>>
>> Also note him continuing this nonsense about me hating Linux. Seriously,
>> do you ever see me hating Linux?!?!??!
Seriously, your hatred of Linux is palpable, Larry. You don't really
even attempt to hide it.
>I've seen one, maybe two posts here in COLA where you actually praised an
>OSS product, without also including a lie or insult concerning another
>poster.
"Hadron" is as shitty as they come.
>chrisv has made a notable number of reasonable and decent advocacy posts.
And ChrisA is one of our most decent and reasonable advocates, yet he
is relentlessly attacked by the Quack asshole.
--
'What part of "there is no advantage if they do not ever use the
source" confuses you?' - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark,
asserting that only developers benefit from FOSS.
chrisv
> Larry lamed:
>>
>> I can not think of, off hand, of a single decent advocacy post (chrisv) has made
>
>chrisv has made a notable number of reasonable and decent advocacy posts.
Hell, there's a fairly decent one in this very thread!
<lklt46h697erpvcnr...@4ax.com>
But, I suppose, "Hadron" would argue that that was *not* a "decent
advocacy post", because, according to "Hadron", I was *wrong*, while
his fellow Wintrolls, claiming that FOSS developers must be "utterly
retarded", were *correct*.
Yeah, "true Linux advocate" Hadron Quark is a *really* good judge of
what "decent advocacy" is... NOT
--
"Thanks beardies - a lot of people will become very rich from your
hard work." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
The Hooded Plumber
>the hooded plumber and dfs are fixated on money. they have displayed an
>incapacity to believe that human activity can be driven by anything else.
Wrong again voodoo.
Like I said, you don't appear to be too smart.
I'm saying it's human nature to want to earn money and when one person
is doing the work, let's say the oss programmer, and a huge company,
say IBM is making oodles of cash off the back of that person, he is
indeed a sucker.
>it is not a big leap of the imagination that this includes their social
>life. what is so hard to understand?
Conjecture, and as usual wrong.
I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
does in a year.
See Spamowitz for example who wouldn't proof read another students
paper without being compensated.
One Shot, One Kill
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:37j0569rfq9bdkulm...@4ax.com...
chrisv is a liar. chrisv is a worthless piece of fscking shit.
voodoo
> I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
> does in a year.
well good for you. seriously. to make such a proud pronouncement you must
not be one of the windows fools that claim linux programmers are poor
loons that live in their mothers basement. just a few days ago some bozo
posted "FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to paycheck." cant
remember who that was. some no-account trash mouth noisemaker that burst
into cola a few weeks ago, kept repeating shit this and fuck that.
perhaps you can look the turkey up. just in case dfs says im lying and i
cant prove he was ever here this is a link to one of the early posts.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3f87a608fc88515f
its a good thing you would never claim foss programmers are poverty
stricken and then brag about how you can out charity them. that would be
cynical glory hounding. dfs would quickly jump on your case with his lame
and tiresome left mouth-right mouth shtick. let me tell you from personal
experience, that is *so* embarrassing. your reputation would go straight
to the toilet!
so you are a charity giver? good. do you go for the high level stuff like
unicef or red cross? maybe you prefer a more low level hands on style
like meals-on-wheels or helping at the local soup kitchen? lately i have
been helping some youngsters in poor countries finish high school and
even go to trade school. 2 in the past, 1 currently, and 1 more lined
up. $350 seems to pay for a year of tuition and $100 a month takes care
of living expense. cheap! thats an entertainment budget for the middle
class in a rich country.
Hadron
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:30:00 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>
>> I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
>> does in a year.
>
> well good for you. seriously. to make such a proud pronouncement you must
> not be one of the windows fools that claim linux programmers are poor
> loons that live in their mothers basement. just a few days ago some
> bozo
How do you continue to get things SO wrong?
No one claims Linux programmers live in their mothers basements. And
even if they did it would be nothing to do with them being poor.
Freetards and disfunctional loonies like the COLA extremists are the
ones who we claim live in their mother's basements and feel that by
joining Boycott Novell etc they are making a difference. They live in
their mother's basements because they lack any social graces, smell and
need their Mom's to tell them how special they are.
See?
The Hooded Plumber
wrote:
Voodoo is just not too bright.
He continually misses the points and tries to be cute.
He just ends up looking like the idiot he is.
BTW Hans Reiser *was* caught hiding in his mother's basement.
I guess he felt comfortable there.
Kind of like when grown adults assume the fetal position when
threatened :)
DFS
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:30:00 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>
>
>> I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
>> does in a year.
>
> well good for you. seriously. to make such a proud pronouncement you must
> not be one of the windows fools that claim linux programmers are poor
> loons that live in their mothers basement. just a few days ago some bozo
> posted "FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to paycheck."
Most FOSS programmers don't give enough info to verify that, but I'm
sure it's true in many cases. Open source programming doesn't pay much
in general, if it pays anything at all.
A couple years I gave some FOSS idiot a hard time for his blog posting
where he was soliciting money for living expenses (he was married with 1
child) so he could pursue hobbyware coding. He wasn't even working on a
specific project you could contribute to.
How shameful. He got upset with me for calling him out on asking
strangers to pay his way through life.
> cant
> remember who that was. some no-account trash mouth noisemaker that burst
> into cola a few weeks ago, kept repeating shit this and fuck that.
chrisv? (p)Rick?
> perhaps you can look the turkey up. just in case dfs says im lying and i
> cant prove he was ever here this is a link to one of the early posts.
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3f87a608fc88515f
That was Moshe with another of his lame nymshifts.
> its a good thing you would never claim foss programmers are poverty
> stricken and then brag about how you can out charity them. that would be
> cynical glory hounding. dfs would quickly jump on your case with his lame
> and tiresome left mouth-right mouth shtick.
I'll be watching you, fella. It's best you stick with the truth and
have a consistent opinion.
> let me tell you from personal
> experience, that is *so* embarrassing. your reputation would go straight
> to the toilet!
You're a cola Linux "advocate"; you've been floating in the bowl for a
while now. Look to your left and see chrisv floating beside you.
> so you are a charity giver? good. do you go for the high level stuff like
> unicef or red cross? maybe you prefer a more low level hands on style
> like meals-on-wheels or helping at the local soup kitchen? lately i have
> been helping some youngsters in poor countries finish high school and
> even go to trade school. 2 in the past, 1 currently, and 1 more lined
> up.
How do you know they're doing any of this?
> $350 seems to pay for a year of tuition and $100 a month takes care
> of living expense.
My wife gives nearly identical amounts to St Judes Children's Hospital.
> cheap! thats an entertainment budget for the middle
> class in a rich country.
Don't you think you should help your fellow poor citizens before helping
poor foreigners?
voodoo
> Voodoo is just not too bright.
> He continually misses the points and tries to be cute. He just ends up
> looking like the idiot he is.
>
> BTW Hans Reiser *was* caught hiding in his mother's basement. I guess he
> felt comfortable there.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/11/REISER.TMP
sorry to bust up your fantasy.
voodoo
> On 7/28/2010 10:46 PM, voodoo wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:30:00 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
>>> does in a year.
>>
>> well good for you. seriously. to make such a proud pronouncement you
>> must not be one of the windows fools that claim linux programmers are
>> poor loons that live in their mothers basement. just a few days ago
>> some bozo posted "FOSS programmers are barely surviving paycheck to
>> paycheck."
>> cant remember who that was. some no-account trash mouth noisemaker that
>> burst into cola a few weeks ago, kept repeating shit this and fuck
>> that.
>
> chrisv? (p)Rick?
yeah. yeah. yeah, one of them.
>> perhaps you can look the turkey up. just in case dfs says im lying and
>> i cant prove he was ever here this is a link to one of the early posts.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3f87a608fc88515f
> That was Moshe with another of his lame nymshifts.
try to get moshe to help you out with this one. you need to find out what
you are missing from a friend.
>> its a good thing you would never claim foss programmers are poverty
>> stricken and then brag about how you can out charity them. that would
>> be cynical glory hounding. dfs would quickly jump on your case with his
>> lame and tiresome left mouth-right mouth shtick.
>
> I'll be watching you, fella. It's best you stick with the truth and
> have a consistent opinion.
oh very good! you are taking on the responsibilities of being a minor
godlet with commendable enthusiasm. i will bow down and pray to you
starting tomorrow.
>> let me tell you from personal
>> experience, that is *so* embarrassing. your reputation would go
>> straight to the toilet!
>
> You're a cola Linux "advocate"; you've been floating in the bowl for a
> while now. Look to your left and see chrisv floating beside you.
>
>> so you are a charity giver? good. do you go for the high level stuff
>> like unicef or red cross? maybe you prefer a more low level hands on
>> style like meals-on-wheels or helping at the local soup kitchen? lately
>> i have been helping some youngsters in poor countries finish high
>> school and even go to trade school. 2 in the past, 1 currently, and 1
>> more lined up.
>
> How do you know they're doing any of this?
they mail copies of tuition bills and report cards to me. sometimes
pictures as well.
>> $350 seems to pay for a year of tuition and $100 a month takes care of
>> living expense.
>
> My wife gives nearly identical amounts to St Judes Children's Hospital.
>
>> cheap! thats an entertainment budget for the middle class in a rich
>> country.
>
> Don't you think you should help your fellow poor citizens before helping
> poor foreigners?
ill get right on that. soon as those illegal alien honkys go back to
europe where they belong.
voodoo
> voodoo <voo...@tootycar.net> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:30:00 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>>
>>> I probably give more to charity in a month than the typical Linux loon
>>> does in a year.
>>
>> well good for you. seriously. to make such a proud pronouncement you
>> must not be one of the windows fools that claim linux programmers are
>> poor loons that live in their mothers basement. just a few days ago
>> some bozo
>
> How do you continue to get things SO wrong?
>
> No one claims Linux programmers live in their mothers basements. And
> even if they did it would be nothing to do with them being poor.
that may be your view on what goes on with this newsgroup. considering
the tone of what gets posted here your position is astonishing. let us
assume for the sake of argument that your postings are in line with this
claim. you said "no one". be careful with such a sweeping proclamation.
that sucks in a slew of oddball fringe posters like clogwog and one shot
one kill. the likelihood that a careful investigation of their posting
history will show that they have been as careful as you to keep that
distinction is vanishingly small.
even a reputable poster like dfs (gotta roll the eyes on that one) gets
fast and loose in this area. his dumping of issues from ubuntu boards and
calling it hobbyware does damage to your claim.
if there is any separation of linux and foss programmers here it is only
something a lawyer could love. your valiant efforts to fight the good
fight is simply lost in the noise.
> Freetards and disfunctional loonies like the COLA extremists are the
> ones who we claim live in their mother's basements and feel that by
> joining Boycott Novell etc they are making a difference. They live in
> their mother's basements because they lack any social graces, smell and
> need their Mom's to tell them how special they are.
freetards. speaking of freetards, where do corporate freetards, you know
the ones involved in bill gates company corbis, fit into your world? they
are the ones that got a patent on infoflows ideas. then the silly gits
tried to defend their actions by claiming infoflows ideas (that corbis
patented) were in the public domain! does that fit your definition of a
freetard?
> See?
not being a lawyer, no.
DFS
> they mail copies of tuition bills and report cards to me. sometimes
> pictures as well.
Do you send the money directly to them, or to the institutions, or to a
charitable organization?
>> Don't you think you should help your fellow poor citizens before helping
>> poor foreigners?
>
> ill get right on that. soon as those illegal alien honkys go back to
> europe where they belong.
honkys = honkeys
What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity, jigaboo?
The Hooded Plumber
I doubt the voodoo idiot is capable of signing a check.
Anyway, check his posting history.
He's yet another nym of one of our guests in the COLA zoo.
He must have escaped from his cage.
Homer
thusly:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:30:00 -0400, The Hooded Plumber wrote:
>> I probably give more to charity in a month
>> than the typical Linux loon does in a year.
>
> well good for you.
Flatty betrays his white-trash roots with comments like that,
although I suspect his bragging is little more than wishful thinking.
The Hooded Plumber
Hahaha!
Spoken like a true Scotsman!
Go blow a bagpipe, screw a sheep or something.
voodoo
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:48:22 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>
>>On 7/29/2010 1:31 AM, voodoo wrote:
>>
>>> they mail copies of tuition bills and report cards to me. sometimes
>>> pictures as well.
>>
>>Do you send the money directly to them, or to the institutions, or to a
>>charitable organization?
>>>>
>>>> Don't you think you should help your fellow poor citizens before
>>>> helping poor foreigners?
>>>
>>> ill get right on that. soon as those illegal alien honkys go back to
>>> europe where they belong.
>>
>>
>>honkys = honkeys
>>
>>What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity,
>>jigaboo?
>
> I doubt the voodoo idiot is capable of signing a check.
goodness. so perceptive of you. got it on the first try. oh. oh. oh.
do clogwog. how does his posting history mark him on the social ladder?
you are so incredible. its even miraculous. are you in line to be
promoted to minor godlet like dfs? will you be throwing lightning bolts
across the sky as you fight him for domination of the heavens? i think
you will win. good as dfs is, he just does not have what it takes to be
divine. know what i mean?
speaking of dfs, please help him out. he became confused and lost here
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a893a72d568e43cd
he thinks you are chrisv. it would be better if a friend like you
straighten him out. those linux loons you know will tease him just
forever if they catch him first.
The Hooded Plumber
>speaking of dfs, please help him out. he became confused and lost here
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a893a72d568e43cd
>
>he thinks you are chrisv. it would be better if a friend like you
>straighten him out. those linux loons you know will tease him just
>forever if they catch him first.
Like I said voodoo, you are a moron incapable of reading
comprehension.
From your link:
*******************************
voodoo said:
> perhaps you can look the turkey up. just in case dfs says im lying and i
> cant prove he was ever here this is a link to one of the early posts.
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3f87a608fc8...
DFS said:
That was Moshe with another of his lame nymshifts. "
*********************************
You can't even comprehend what you have written, which is no surprise
because most people can't.
Good self nuke though.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
voodoo
> On 7/29/2010 1:31 AM, voodoo wrote:
>
>> they mail copies of tuition bills and report cards to me. sometimes
>> pictures as well.
>
> Do you send the money directly to them, or to the institutions, or to a
> charitable organization?
you are not one to engage in idle banter with linux loons. why is this
important to you?
>>> Don't you think you should help your fellow poor citizens before
>>> helping poor foreigners?
that is your job.
>> ill get right on that. soon as those illegal alien honkys go back to
>> europe where they belong.
>
>
> honkys = honkeys
>
> What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity,
> jigaboo?
about as much as the attempt to claim that your charity is better than my
charity.
> What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity,
> jigaboo?
you are right, i was lying. we exterminated enough of the natives, we
certainly have the right to take whatever is left behind. no that cant be
right.
> What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity,
> jigaboo?
you are right, i was lying. there were no humans here, just animals. we
europeans moved into empty lands. no that cant be right.
> What does your lie about illegal Europeans have to do with charity,
> jigaboo?
you are right, i was lying. the natives had no laws against flooding
their lands with white immigrants. they had no laws against killing all
their buffalo. they had no laws against the cavalry surrounding a village
and wasting anything that moved. it was europeans that brought the
benefits of law and order and slavery to the savages. just ignore the
episode of that genocidal man that put the seminoles on a death march,
yeah no laws against that. oops pardon me. there was a law against that.
too bad there were only a few supreme court justices, and they were
hundreds of miles too far away to do anything. yeah what the honkeys did
wasnt illegal. mostly.
> jigaboo?
cant you even get the racist insults right?
voodoo
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:38:26 GMT, voodoo <voo...@tootycar.net> wrote:
>
>
>>speaking of dfs, please help him out. he became confused and lost here
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/
a893a72d568e43cd
>>
>>he thinks you are chrisv. it would be better if a friend like you
>>straighten him out. those linux loons you know will tease him just
>>forever if they catch him first.
>
>
> Like I said voodoo, you are a moron incapable of reading comprehension.
>
> From your link:
>
> *******************************
>
> voodoo said:
>
>> perhaps you can look the turkey up. just in case dfs says im lying and
>> i cant prove he was ever here this is a link to one of the early posts.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/
msg/3f87a608fc8...
>
> DFS said:
>
> That was Moshe with another of his lame nymshifts. "
blah blah blah. you didnt look at the section where dfs thinks you are
chrisv, did you?