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My Fedora shitware works great... until the 1st time I boot it up :(

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DFS

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Feb 9, 2012, 7:40:26 PM2/9/12
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"I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
amazingly until the initial bootup.

I'm firstly getting a scrambled screen and if I do a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace,
I get it unscrambled, but I can't click anything. It is like it gets
locked up!

Is there anything I can do to fix this?"

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276113



The fix? Just keep rebooting and rebooting and rebooting. It may take
4 hours but eventually it will "just work". Trust them.

BWAHAHA!!!!

Too fsckin' funny!



Homer, didn't you work on Fedora 16....

Foster

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Feb 10, 2012, 8:17:50 AM2/10/12
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux!
What baffles me is why these people, those having problems like
this, keep going at it for weeks?

Ok, so maybe the install went sour. It happens and it can happen
with Windows or OSX as well but once you've tried a different
approach with the same results, why punish yourself?

It's time to move on.

>
> Homer, didn't you work on Fedora 16....

Yea, and he's still begging for money.

DFS

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:47:34 AM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 8:17 AM, Foster wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:40:26 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>
>> I'm firstly getting a scrambled screen and if I do a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace,
>> I get it unscrambled, but I can't click anything. It is like it gets
>> locked up!
>>
>> Is there anything I can do to fix this?"
>>
>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276113
>>
>>
>>
>> The fix? Just keep rebooting and rebooting and rebooting. It may take
>> 4 hours but eventually it will "just work". Trust them.
>>
>> BWAHAHA!!!!
>>
>> Too fsckin' funny!
>
> Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux!
> What baffles me is why these people, those having problems like
> this, keep going at it for weeks?
>
> Ok, so maybe the install went sour.

Sure, but the hobbyware didn't say so: "everything was going amazingly
until the initial bootup."

Probably a hardware issue anyway...



> It happens and it can happen
> with Windows or OSX as well but once you've tried a different
> approach with the same results, why punish yourself?
>
> It's time to move on.
>
>>
>> Homer, didn't you work on Fedora 16....
>
> Yea, and he's still begging for money.

To make room in his "very busy schedule"...

Ezekiel

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:50:27 AM2/10/12
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"DFS" <nos...@dfs.com> wrote in message news:jh3amg$agd$6...@dont-email.me...
But if enough people give him free money then his schedule will magically
open up.



JEDIDIAH

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:24:03 AM2/10/12
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On 2012-02-10, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
> amazingly until the initial bootup.

Someone else's problem.

Someone that never asked you to speak for them.

Someone that never gave you permission to speak for them.

Someone who's words you are likely misrepresenting.

[deletia]

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DFS

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:38:45 AM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>
> Someone else's problem.

Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.


> Someone that never asked you to speak for them.

I'm not speaking for them.


> Someone that never gave you permission to speak for them.

I'm not speaking for them.


> Someone who's words you are likely misrepresenting.

Only you misrepresented anyone here - I didn't use Google at all.



> [deletia]

[dementia]


JEDIDIAH

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:55:15 PM2/10/12
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On 2012-02-10, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>
>> Someone else's problem.
>
> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.

It's hearsay.

"Altruism" has nothing to do with it.

DFS

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:14:28 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 1:55 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>>>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>>
>>> Someone else's problem.
>>
>> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.
>
> It's hearsay.

But I have had several direct experiences with Linux failing to boot
after the supposed successful install. Therefore, not hearsay.

But even if hearsay, so what? You claiming the victim is lying?



> "Altruism" has nothing to do with it.


It's you shrugging it off because it doesn't affect you.

When's the last time you contributed anything to the "Linux community"?

Homer

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:11:07 PM2/10/12
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Verily I say unto thee that JEDIDIAH spake thusly:
> On 2012-02-10, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was
>>>> going amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>>
>>> Someone else's problem.
>>
>> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.
>
> It's hearsay.
>
> "Altruism" has nothing to do with it.

And advocacy is not technical support, as the trolls well know.

Being an advocate doesn't preclude one from /also/ offering technical
support though ... in the /correct/ forum.

Of course, the trolls are well aware of that too.

But if DooFuS wants to crapflood COLA with technical support issues, he
should have a look here first:

[quote]
. Windows slow/freezing up
. Blue Screen during SWTOR update.
. Win7 64bit / Vista 32bit printer
. Windows 7 won't boot after restore
. Sony Vaio hard disk failure/ replacing and installing OS
. Where are System Restore points in win7
. Solved: strange file
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. 1 Attachment(s) Reinstall O.S. - Can I copy program files first?
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. 2 Attachment(s) Computer Problems - Please Help (Multi-page thread
. Win Update, Sys Restore & Device Manager not Working
. Displey driver freezes computer!
. How to best organise the harddrives of my new PC
. LGA 1155 and Video
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. Boot up to black screen and blinking cursor
. 1 Attachment(s) -Blue Screen-.dmp file included- IRQL less than or
. Solved: process explorer and task manager problems
. Network Issues (Multi-page thread 1 2)
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. Okay is this a problem with windows vista and windows 7?
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. 3 to 9 second delays on most mouse clicks
[/quote]

http://forums.techguy.org/86-windows-7/

I've told DooFy before, if he wants to play the "problems" game, he's
going to lose badly. Windows lost the technical argument years ago. In
fact it was never even a contender to begin with. All that's left of
Windows "evangelism" is boasting about how much money racketeers extort
from their victims - like that's something any decent human being should
be proud of. To witness such people talk about "altruism" is laughable.

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JEDIDIAH

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Feb 10, 2012, 4:16:26 PM2/10/12
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On 2012-02-10, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 2/10/2012 1:55 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>>>>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>>>
>>>> Someone else's problem.
>>>
>>> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.
>>
>> It's hearsay.
>
> But I have had several direct experiences with Linux failing to boot

Then you should whine about those.

At least you can be cross examined.

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Chris Ahlstrom

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Feb 10, 2012, 5:26:47 PM2/10/12
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JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2012-02-10, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2012 1:55 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>>>>>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone else's problem.
>>>>
>>>> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.
>>>
>>> It's hearsay.
>>
>> But I have had several direct experiences with Linux failing to boot
>
> Then you should whine about those.

No! No more whines from that nut!

> At least you can be cross examined.

What? He'll never take an honest oath.

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and Notes strategy. Its great to have people following our strategy as long as
we execute a lot better than they do.
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Big Steel

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Feb 10, 2012, 5:55:53 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 4:16 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:

<snipped>

You again? So much for the technical aspects of this chicken-shit NG.
You are as much a part of the trolling than anyone else in here.

DFS

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Feb 11, 2012, 8:38:37 AM2/11/12
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On 2/10/2012 4:16 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2012 1:55 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/2012 11:24 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-02-10, DFS<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "I installed Fedora 16 on a Toshiba A100-LE1 and everything was going
>>>>>> amazingly until the initial bootup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone else's problem.
>>>>
>>>> Such a good member of the "altruistic" Linux "community" you are.
>>>
>>> It's hearsay.
>>
>> But I have had several direct experiences with Linux failing to boot
>
> Then you should whine about those.
>
> At least you can be cross examined.


I did whine about them.

The sucky "advocates" on cola ran away or said I was lying.


DFS

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Feb 11, 2012, 9:42:51 AM2/11/12
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On 2/10/2012 3:11 PM, Homer wrote:


> But if DooFuS wants to crapflood COLA with technical support issues, he
> should have a look here first:
>
> http://forums.techguy.org/86-windows-7/
>
> I've told DooFy before, if he wants to play the "problems" game, he's
> going to lose badly.


And I've told you before, you're too stupid to adjust for the number of
users when you start drooling with Google results or problem reports
about Windows.

Windows has approx 90x as many users as Linux, but I have NEVER seen a
problem category in which Windows shows 90x as many Google hits.

Nor have I EVER seen a Windows complaint involving /*6 to 13 major
issues*/ like I've seen in the Ubuntu forums.

Linux just works.



> Windows lost the technical argument years ago.

In your deluded mind.

The primitive, bumbling, amateurish Linux system requires a victim to
spend years learning hundreds of manpages, apps and utilities just to
duplicate the immense functionality found in two point-click Windows tools:

1. Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc)
2. Security Policy Editor (secpol.msc)



Not to mention the hardware system requirements for a modern distro are
nearly identical to Windows 7:

Ubuntu Desktop Edition

* 1 GHz CPU (x86 processor (Pentium 4 or better))
* 1 GiB RAM (system memory)
* 15 GB of hard-drive space (or USB stick, memory card or external
drive but see LiveCD for an alternative approach)


Win 7
* 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
* 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
* 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
* DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements



Then there are the usual user-friendly obstacles that relegate Linux to
hobby status forever:

- any old hackjob "developer" can contribute
- poor documentation
- pre-1.0 releases are sent out for years on end
- 170+ "desktop" distros that have no reason to exits
- distros derived from distros derived from distros derived from distros
derived from distros
- entire distros developed and maintained by anonymous user names
- distros with 6-month fixed date release cycles
- cryptic config text files scattered all over
- no central store for config settings
- case-sensitive file names
- command line absolutely required at some point, and sooner rather than
later
- rude adolescent "community"
- 30 different file systems
- not one good native game
- ridiculously poor audio/video apps
- apps that have to be started from the command line
- learning how to install apps not in the repos
- theftware of ideas from Windows and Mac
- hidden .config folders
- device lists that include extremely obsolete technology
- package managers that give you no install options whatsoever
- majority of desktop users glom onto one distro Ubuntu
- desktop copy/paste gives different file modify dates from command line
copy/paste
- requires much more effort to learn and administer than Windows or Mac


MS is doomed.


> In fact it was never even a contender to begin with. All that's left of
> Windows "evangelism" is boasting about how much money racketeers extort
> from their victims - like that's something any decent human being should
> be proud of. To witness such people talk about "altruism" is laughable.

The population is much better served by having an /enormous/ ecosystem
of apps, dev tools, games, hardware, 3rd party support, and
documentation for one OS.


JEDIDIAH

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Feb 11, 2012, 3:44:42 PM2/11/12
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Translation: You can't fool anyone with the less obscure stuff because
chances are that someone in here has that exact combination
and will contradict you.

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DFS

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:58:28 AM2/12/12
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I don't need to fool anyone. That's what Linux is for.




Foster

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:50:13 AM2/12/12
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LOL!
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