Desktop Screenshots
Tom B.
more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
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Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
Good idea, Roy. Excellent bit of advocacy,if I do say so myself.
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
Slick.
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
theme I am currently using..
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Roy Culley
Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
> Tom B spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> and the letters spelled:
>
>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Good idea, Roy. Excellent bit of advocacy,if I do say so myself.
Well thankyou. But for what? :-)
Tom B.
<snip>
>http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>
>That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>
>Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>theme I am currently using..
Very nice!
As for Firebird, it certainly looks slicker in that screenshot than
what I've seen of it on Windows.
Regards
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> begin <F5frb.2631$jt.1723@okepread05>,
> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>> Tom B spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
>> and the letters spelled:
>>
>>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>
>> Good idea, Roy. Excellent bit of advocacy,if I do say so myself.
>
> Well thankyou. But for what? :-)
Doing what you can to help others realize the freedoms that are
associated with free software, of course.
Michael Vester
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
How about
http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot1.png
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Roy Culley
Michael Vester <michae...@shaw.com> writes:
> Tom B. wrote:
>
>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>
> How about
> http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot1.png
That is just sick. Don't you realise that all Linux users are gay as
well as stupid? :-)
Roy Culley
Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
> Roy Culley spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> and the letters spelled:
>> begin <F5frb.2631$jt.1723@okepread05>,
>> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>>> Tom B spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
>>> and the letters spelled:
>>>
>>>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>>>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>>>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>>>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>>>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>>
>>> Good idea, Roy. Excellent bit of advocacy,if I do say so myself.
>>
>> Well thankyou. But for what? :-)
>
> Doing what you can to help others realize the freedoms that are
> associated with free software, of course.
Then I thank you most sincerely not only for the compliment but for
your posts to the same affect.
I still think you meant Tom in your initial reply. :-)
Lang may yer lum reek laddie. :-)
flatfish+++
How did he get the fonts to look so good?
The normal builds of firebird have god awful looking fonts.
Under Windows Firebird is fantastic.
I use Mozilla under SuSE Linux and it looks and performs great.
MUCH better than the Windows version in fact.
flatfish+++
Richard R
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
Ok, here's mine
RH9 - KDE
Handover Phist
I'll have to post a couple. This one is serving as an interim
workstation before going on server duty. My other workstation will be
posted later (and my other other one once I figure out what I did to the
keyboard o_O).
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Sugapablo
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
Mine isn't that exciting, but it suits me very well as I can be very
productive on it.
http://www.sugapablo.net/temp/desktop.png
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Rick
You use a build that uses XFT.
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I guess you'll all want a URL eh?
http://websterscafe.com/~jason/boron.png
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Russ Lyttle
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubution). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
Good looking desktops, but has anyone looked at ergonomic issues.
This is an important. I have lots of ergonomic issues with MS desktops and
many Linux desktops. Some (default) color/refresh/font/iconRendering
schemes give me real headaches.
Anyone looking for a good MS thesis might look at some of these issues. It's
nice to be able to configure my own desktop, but a manufacturer needs to
install one desktop on all his product. One that looks good and doesn't
hurt after 8 hours in the pit.
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flatfish+++
Really?
So where do I find this thing?
I go to the mozilla.org site and download the windows version of firebird
and it looks and runs fine.
The Linux version looks terrible.
So where is this good version located?
flatfish+++
Lysergic Acid
> I go to the mozilla.org site and download the windows version of firebird
> and it looks and runs fine.
>
> The Linux version looks terrible.
>
> So where is this good version located?
>
> flatfish+++
based on reports of the 2.6 kernel,
i'm thinking of going back to Mozilla
from Firebird -- i like all the features,
but with 2.6 it sounds like it will
run fast...
Linønut
> How did he get the fonts to look so good?
> The normal builds of firebird have god awful looking fonts.
Not if you override what the site picks with fonts that you like.
Of course, then it does not look like it might under IE.
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>
> So where is this good version located?
>
> flatfish+++
>
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/0.7-release-notes.html
Scroll down until you find the one that uses GTK2+XFT
I gotta agree, the regular one looks ugly.
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
Well, what bugged me about it is that an extremely attractive woman
stepped in front of his desk, right before he took the picture.
It kind of takes away from the screenshot. But perhaps we can start
another thread with pictures of the woman!
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:58:28 +0000, Tom B. wrote:
>
>> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>>
>>>That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>>>pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>>>gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>>
>>>Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>>>theme I am currently using..
>>
>> Very nice!
>>
>> As for Firebird, it certainly looks slicker in that screenshot than
>> what I've seen of it on Windows.
>>
>> Regards
>
> How did he get the fonts to look so good?
> The normal builds of firebird have god awful looking fonts.
I interestingly enough, I haven't done anything to this box, not one
thing, to improve the quality of the fonts. It's not really something I
put a lot of emphasis on. I am running with the defaults there.
And I'm not trying to be a jackass towards you, flatty, but I never
thought the day would come that I would hear you compliment the4 fonts
on a linux box. Thanks.
> Under Windows Firebird is fantastic.
A lot better than IE.
> I use Mozilla under SuSE Linux and it looks and performs great.
> MUCH better than the Windows version in fact.
That's true also.
> flatfish+++
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> begin <Rxfrb.2637$jt.1018@okepread05>,
> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>> Roy Culley spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
>> and the letters spelled:
>>> begin <F5frb.2631$jt.1723@okepread05>,
>>> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>>>> Tom B spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
>>>> and the letters spelled:
>>>>
>>>>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>>>>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>>>>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>>>>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>>>>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>>>
>>>> Good idea, Roy. Excellent bit of advocacy,if I do say so myself.
>>>
>>> Well thankyou. But for what? :-)
>>
>> Doing what you can to help others realize the freedoms that are
>> associated with free software, of course.
>
> Then I thank you most sincerely not only for the compliment but for
> your posts to the same affect.
You're welcome. Lets keep up the effort alive.
> I still think you meant Tom in your initial reply. :-)
Hehe, yeah.
> Lang may yer lum reek laddie. :-)
Roy Culley
Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
> Roy Culley spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> and the letters spelled:
>> begin <bok1np$1ev45l$1...@id-121900.news.uni-berlin.de>,
>> Michael Vester <michae...@shaw.com> writes:
>>> Tom B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>>>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>>>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>>>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>>>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>>>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>>>
>>> How about
>>> http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot1.png
>>
>> That is just sick. Don't you realise that all Linux users are gay as
>> well as stupid? :-)
>
> Well, what bugged me about it is that an extremely attractive woman
> stepped in front of his desk, right before he took the picture.
LOL
Roy Culley
Very nice but what are those funny looking things with Trash, CD
Writer, etc under them? :-)
Erik Funkenbusch
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>
> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>
> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
> theme I am currently using..
Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
Two things to note:
First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
is slightly off.
Rick
Its located somewhere on the Mozilla page. Go find it.
Nevermind. As usual, someone has to do the easy work for you.
Freeride
HA! :) Ewik is jealous of your desktop!!!! :)
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>
>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>
>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>
>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>> theme I am currently using..
>
> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
You have got to be shitting me. For you to even suggest that I faked it
proves how low of a troll you really are.
> Two things to note:
>
> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
> This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
Okay, those are not xterms. They are Eterms. Eterms offer "artificail
transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
> background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
> is slightly off.
See previous statement.
Surely you can do better than that.
Franoculator
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> HA! :) Ewik is jealous of your desktop!!!! :)
I seemed to get the same impression.
Erik Funkenbusch
> Erik Funkenbusch spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> and the letters spelled:
>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>>
>>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>>
>>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>>
>>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>>
>>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>>> theme I am currently using..
>>
>> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
>
> You have got to be shitting me. For you to even suggest that I faked it
> proves how low of a troll you really are.
I said "either". As you state below, it's because it's the latter.
>> Two things to note:
>>
>> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
>> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
>> This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
>
> Okay, those are not xterms. They are Eterms. Eterms offer "artificail
> transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value, in
that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This fake
shit is pointless.
>> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
>> background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
>> is slightly off.
>
> See previous statement.
>
> Surely you can do better than that.
I was simply pointing out my first impression, which was not positive
because of those artifacts.
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:34:36 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>> Erik Funkenbusch spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
>> and the letters spelled:
>>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>>>
>>>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>>>
>>>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>>>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>>>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>>>
>>>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>>>> theme I am currently using..
>>>
>>> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
>>
>> You have got to be shitting me. For you to even suggest that I faked it
>> proves how low of a troll you really are.
>
> I said "either". As you state below, it's because it's the latter.
Boy, here I thought we had a nice friendly thread going here, and you
had to go and start slinging Fud...er, mud.
>>> Two things to note:
>>>
>>> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
>>> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
>>> This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
>>
>> Okay, those are not xterms. They are Eterms. Eterms offer "artificail
>> transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
>
> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value, in
> that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This fake
> shit is pointless.
No. If I wanted real transparancy, I could have used aterm. I don't
want that, however. It wouldn't be best for me. What if I have 2 terms
overlapping each other. How do you expect me to read the text? How
would I determine which text is in which term?
Right tool for the right job, I always say.
>>> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
>>> background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
>>> is slightly off.
>>
>> See previous statement.
>>
>> Surely you can do better than that.
>
> I was simply pointing out my first impression, which was not positive
> because of those artifacts.
What artifacts? The fact that I have it customized exactly the way I
like it? Customized in a fashion that is not only appealing to the
eye, but very functional at the same time?
Now I know that you're not able to change your desktop around quite as
much as the Linux users you see here, but that's not reason to throw a
jealous fit.
Johan Lindquist
Tom B was all like, "Dude,
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
Here's mine. I'm neither artistic nor big on glossy looks, so it's
pretty bare. It's just the way I like it, tho.
The wm is xfce4, and sensitive viewers should be warned that there's
one of those fake-tranparency terminals (aterm) doing a fake admin
task as well.
<http://www.smilfinken.net/screenshots/xfce/gentoo_xfce4_desktop.png>
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Sugapablo
> So anyway, it was like, 2003-11-09, if you know what I mean, and
> Tom B was all like, "Dude,
>
>
>>If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
>
> Here's mine. I'm neither artistic nor big on glossy looks, so it's
> pretty bare. It's just the way I like it, tho.
>
> The wm is xfce4, and sensitive viewers should be warned that there's
> one of those fake-tranparency terminals (aterm) doing a fake admin
> task as well.
>
> <http://www.smilfinken.net/screenshots/xfce/gentoo_xfce4_desktop.png>
>
Lindquist++ for having "sugapablo" in your screenshot. ;)
Sugapablo
> Good looking desktops, but has anyone looked at ergonomic issues.
> This is an important. I have lots of ergonomic issues with MS desktops and
> many Linux desktops. Some (default) color/refresh/font/iconRendering
> schemes give me real headaches.
I really try to make my desktop a place where I won't get headaches as
my job requires I code 8 hours a day plus whatever I do on my own (I
work from my home PC).
One thing I've found that REALLY helps is making sure all my text
editors have a black background with off-white (as opposed to pure
white) text. Sounds like a simple things, but it helps A LOT.
Rick
Erik, you are such a putz. First you claim you return for one reason, and
then you jump into all kinds of threads, and now your dissing desktops
people obviously like. What is your frelling problem?
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flatfish+++
Thanks for the information.
I'll give it a try.
flatfish+++
Robt. Miller
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
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Erik Funkenbusch
> Erik, you are such a putz. First you claim you return for one reason, and
> then you jump into all kinds of threads, and now your dissing desktops
> people obviously like. What is your frelling problem?
I never said I was returning for one reason. I'd ask why you're
fabricating things I never said.
Peter Köhlmann
You were dissing a desktop someone set up for himself, saying a great many
things about it.
A typical Erik F rant, devoid of any truth and meaning
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Jack McCue
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/
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Linønut
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
Here's a Shift-PrintScreen dump (converted to JPEG) from my Dell laptop
booted to Win 2000, running WindowMaker on top of cygwin's XFree86 port,
using RealVNC to access my Linux box where I was reading slrn (the WM
is icewm, no icons) while waiting for a Visual C++ project to build.
http://home.comcast.net/~linonut/mongrel-desktop.jpg
By the way, this is probably the best way to directly compare the looks
of Windoze and GNU/Linux.
Also note how well Linux helps me tolerate overtime work <grin>.
Chris
flatfish+++
To answer my own post, I downloaded and installed firebird and it looks a
runs fine.
Thanks for the info!
flatfish+++
Sinister Midget
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
I've done this before, but here goes:
http://sinister.webhop.biz/mydesktop.png
It's set up to emulate my desktop on the Win*DOH*s box at work.
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Rick
My mistake. You never said you weren't returning for one, or any reason.
However, why do you like swimming in cesspools?
"This newsgroup has been even more of a cesspooll"
Hmmmm?
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Tom B.
>Tom B. <t...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>
>Linux in pictures Site:
> http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/
>mine's not there yet, will be soon enough
Just by the off-chance, does anyone recognise the font used for the
menus in this one? http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/?act=view&id=10
Thanks
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BlaBla
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>
>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the
>> pekwm theme I am currently using..
>
> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
>
>
> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo
> does. This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
Perhaps you should seriously consider getting a clue before making an idiot
of yourself like this on a public forum.
KDE does not yet fully support XRender (for true transparency) so it is
emulated by redrawing the covered portion of the desktop's background in the
application's background window. If you're still skeptical, have a look at
http://kde-look.org where you'll see countless screenshots showing this
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BlaBla
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Michael Vester
> begin <ydjrb.2670$jt.2532@okepread05>,
> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
> > Roy Culley spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> > and the letters spelled:
> >> begin <bok1np$1ev45l$1...@id-121900.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> >> Michael Vester <michae...@shaw.com> writes:
> >>> Tom B. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for
> >>>> encouraging
> >>>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously,
> >>>> for
> >>>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> >>>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I
> >>>> could ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party
> >>>> tool.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> >>>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
> >>>>
> >>> How about
> >>> http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot1.png
> >>
> >> That is just sick. Don't you realise that all Linux users are gay
> >> as well as stupid? :-)
> >
> > Well, what bugged me about it is that an extremely attractive woman
> > stepped in front of his desk, right before he took the picture.
>
> LOL
>
Just one of of my sessions. I keep setiathome running on my Lexa Doig
screen. Search of extra-terrestrial intelligence and the robot from
Andromeda. See the connection? My sessions where I do my work are just
monochrome. Keeps the clutter down.
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Michael Vester was all like, "Dude,
> Roy Culley wrote:
>> begin <ydjrb.2670$jt.2532@okepread05>,
>> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>> > Well, what bugged me about it is that an extremely attractive
>> > woman stepped in front of his desk, right before he took the
>> > picture.
>>
>> LOL
>
> Just one of of my sessions. I keep setiathome running on my Lexa
> Doig screen. Search of extra-terrestrial intelligence and the robot
> from Andromeda. See the connection? My sessions where I do my work
> are just monochrome. Keeps the clutter down.
Yeah, because /that/ is obviously the reason why you have a cute chick
for a desktop background. *snicker*
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Andy Baxter
was received from the entity known as Tom B.:
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
It crossed my mind that a good advocacy project would be to set up a
public net-accessible linux desktop which people could use if they wanted
to have a look at the system before setting it up on their machine. You
could use vncserver to export the display, and people could view it either
through windows vncviewer or the java web applet vnc viewer. I don't think
I have the resources (I'd want to run it on a completely seperate machine
on a physically isolated subnet) or experience (mainly security questions)
to do a good job of this and not risk compromising my system, but if
anyone out there does it would be good if there was something like this on
the net. Might have to set time-limited access per IP address to stop it
getting overloaded.
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Rob S. Wolfram
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
... or you can opt to have an extremely poor looking desktop, which is
functional and tailormade to the way you work. Guess what, I'm a
minimalist, I hate unnecessary eyecandy and I like to avoid the mouse
whenever possible. Here is an import of my desktop (one of the five
workspaces):
http://www.siebert.nu/~rsw/mydesk.png
Choice is sweet...
Cheers,
Rob
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Michael Vester
> So anyway, it was like, 19:58 CET Nov 09 2003, you know? Oh, and,
> yeah, Michael Vester was all like, "Dude,
> > Roy Culley wrote:
> >> begin <ydjrb.2670$jt.2532@okepread05>,
> >> Franoculator <ma...@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
>
> >> > Well, what bugged me about it is that an extremely attractive
> >> > woman stepped in front of his desk, right before he took the
> >> > picture.
> >>
> >> LOL
> >
> > Just one of of my sessions. I keep setiathome running on my Lexa
> > Doig screen. Search of extra-terrestrial intelligence and the robot
> > from Andromeda. See the connection? My sessions where I do my work
> > are just monochrome. Keeps the clutter down.
>
> Yeah, because /that/ is obviously the reason why you have a cute chick
> for a desktop background. *snicker*
>
Well.... you caught me. At least it proves that Linux does not make you
gay. I certainly don't use this background when I am working in an
office environment. I don't want to be accused of "objectifying" women.
My "Shakira" calendar did not go over very well at my last post. Yet
my cubiclle neighbour had a life sized poster of Ricky Martin. Go
figure.
Usually I use a background with a nice picture of my cat like so:
http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot2.png
So far, politically correct. But I am sure that some group with nothing
better to whine about, will find offense with this background.
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Russ Lyttle
> Russ Lyttle wrote:
>
>> Good looking desktops, but has anyone looked at ergonomic issues.
>> This is an important. I have lots of ergonomic issues with MS desktops
>> and many Linux desktops. Some (default) color/refresh/font/iconRendering
>> schemes give me real headaches.
>
> I really try to make my desktop a place where I won't get headaches as
> my job requires I code 8 hours a day plus whatever I do on my own (I
> work from my home PC).
>
> One thing I've found that REALLY helps is making sure all my text
> editors have a black background with off-white (as opposed to pure
> white) text. Sounds like a simple things, but it helps A LOT.
>
>
I do that also, as far as I can. For my LSE (language sensitive editors), I
avoid any yellow or high saturation colors. On a black background, pink
stands out as well as full red. As a side benefit, that also seems to
extend battery life a bit on the laptop a minute or two.
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Milo T.
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>
>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>
>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>
>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
>> theme I am currently using..
>
> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
It's not real transparency and never has been. All they do is show a dimmed
version of the desktop wallpaper as the background of the window. No alpha
blending, no compositing... just a quick cheat.
Now if you want something that looks 'cool', it's ok. But if you want
something that's actually functional... nope, that doesn't cut it.
Scarletdown
http://webpages.charter.net/scarletdown/Misc/Lanya-Desktop-00.JPG
Hope it's not a heresy to have a duck on the desktop instead of a
penguin. :D
Pretty simple at the moment. But then again, I just got her up and
running a couple days ago and am still in the extensive tweaking
process; a process which would go faster had I not decided to try out
Maelstrom, which is a highly addictive game. :p
Jim Richardson
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No, but as an aside, I really want that Tux with a flyswatter background
:)
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Tom B.
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>
>On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:56:45 +0000,
> Tom B <t...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> j_m...@SPAMisBADcomcast.net (Jack McCue) wrote:
>>
>> Just by the off-chance, does anyone recognise the font used for the
>> menus in this one? http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/?act=view&id=10
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>No, but as an aside, I really want that Tux with a flyswatter background
>:)
I've seen that before somewhere.
*Searches through kde-look.org*
Here it is:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7858
I find kde-look.org a great place for things like wallpapers, window
decorations, widget styles, etc.
Regards
Tom B.
>I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
>Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
>If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
This isn't one of mine, but found it while surfing the Web:
http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=8769-2.jpg
Love those icons!
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
[snippity]
> This isn't one of mine, but found it while surfing the Web:
> http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=8769-2.jpg
>
> Love those icons!
As much as I dislike icons, I have to agree, those are slick.
Here's a screen of the desktop used by my boss. I took it while I was
attemting some maintainence the other day.
In order to realize the true beauty of it, you should not the URL in the
browser window.
http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/error.png
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Scarletdown
news:1k0381-...@grendel.myth:
Anyone know where I can find this one particular desktop wallpaper?
It shows a shattered Windows logo, and behind it is Tux, with a stone
in hand.
I saw this during my squadron's Annual Field Training, when another
guy in the barracks was showing us his laptop that was loaded with
Linux. That particular Tux picture was his wallpaper. I was also
rather impressed, BTW, when he booted Windows-2000 without leaving
Linux (via vmware).
I was quite impressed with the people involved in this year's AFT.
The majority of them were quite aware of Linux and were either using
it at home themselves, or were planning on trying it out. During
previous deployments, I have always been surrounded by a bunch of
Windows zombies. It sure felt great being in a Linux-friendly crowd
this time around. :D
Jim Richardson
Hash: SHA1
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:47:16 +0000 (UTC),
Rob S. Wolfram <ve...@hamal.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Tom B <t...@invalid.address> wrote:
>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> ... or you can opt to have an extremely poor looking desktop, which is
> functional and tailormade to the way you work. Guess what, I'm a
> minimalist, I hate unnecessary eyecandy and I like to avoid the mouse
> whenever possible. Here is an import of my desktop (one of the five
> workspaces):
>
> http://www.siebert.nu/~rsw/mydesk.png
>
> Choice is sweet...
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
Same for me for the most part, keep it simple, and clear. I want to get
stuff done, not look at the buttons.
As an aside, looks like you have a Dell laptop, you might want to
consider wmi8k for the dock, rather than i8kmon, it's a true dockapp,
and allows the same functions as i8kmon, with the addition of watching
the RPM speed of the fans. It's worked well for me, although earlier
versions had bugs. The latest has been quite stable and useful.
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Jim Richardson
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For true transparency, look into Xrender, image compositing, alpha
transparency, RGB tinting, and more.
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I mean, wasn't that his job description? i.e. Sanitary Engineer? ;)
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BlaBla
Cats are a symbol of prowess, which characterizes most Linux users. :)
Jim Richardson
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:09:21 +0000,
Tom B <t...@invalid.address> wrote:
> Jim Richardson <war...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>
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>>On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:56:45 +0000,
>> Tom B <t...@invalid.address> wrote:
>>> j_m...@SPAMisBADcomcast.net (Jack McCue) wrote:
>>>
>>> Just by the off-chance, does anyone recognise the font used for the
>>> menus in this one? http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/?act=view&id=10
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>>No, but as an aside, I really want that Tux with a flyswatter background
>>:)
>
> I've seen that before somewhere.
>
> *Searches through kde-look.org*
>
> Here it is:
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7858
>
> I find kde-look.org a great place for things like wallpapers, window
> decorations, widget styles, etc.
>
Cool, thanks. I hoped someone would point me in the right place :)
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flatfish+++
> This isn't one of mine, but found it while surfing the Web:
> http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?file=8769-2.jpg
>
> Love those icons!
That one is amazing!
Very creative indeed!
flatfish+++
Linønut
> In article <i3uqqv07l6320aq26...@4ax.com>, Tom B wrote:
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>
A real tour de force!
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>
> My mistake. You never said you weren't returning for one, or any reason.
> However, why do you like swimming in cesspools?
Turds of a feather flock together? <sick!>
> "This newsgroup has been even more of a cesspooll"
>
> Hmmmm?
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Linønut
> Just by the off-chance, does anyone recognise the font used for the
> menus in this one? http://beyond.tuxfamily.org/?act=view&id=10
Dunno. I like the bloody "Wolfenstein" character in the gkrellm applet.
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> In article <i3uqqv07l6320aq26...@4ax.com>, Tom B wrote:
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
> http://robtmil.com
What is that little seti app in the top right corner called?
Linønut
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/0.7-release-notes.html
>>>
>>> Scroll down until you find the one that uses GTK2+XFT
>>> I gotta agree, the regular one looks ugly.
>>
>> Thanks for the information.
>> I'll give it a try.
>>
>> flatfish+++
>
> To answer my own post, I downloaded and installed firebird and it looks a
> runs fine.
I just took flattie's advice, and it wiped out my personal font configuration.
However, it looks very good and readable, so, thanks, flatfish!
Linønut
>
> Usually I use a background with a nice picture of my cat like so:
> http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot2.png
> So far, politically correct. But I am sure that some group with nothing
> better to whine about, will find offense with this background.
Nice pussy.
Linønut
> Here's the desktop on my current Linux project:
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/scarletdown/Misc/Lanya-Desktop-00.JPG
Frickin' RedHat! <grin>
GreyCloud
>
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
> > pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
> > gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
> >
> > Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
> > theme I am currently using..
>
> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
>
>
> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
> This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
>
> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
> background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
> is slightly off.
I think you are just slightly off.
How many times has Sweaty Balmer jumped you any way?
GreyCloud
>
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:34:36 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
> > Erik Funkenbusch spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> > and the letters spelled:
> >> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
> >>
> >>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
> >>>
> >>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
> >>>
> >>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
> >>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
> >>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
> >>>
> >>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the pekwm
> >>> theme I am currently using..
> >>
> >> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
> >
> > proves how low of a troll you really are.
>
> I said "either". As you state below, it's because it's the latter.
>
> >> Two things to note:
> >>
> >> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
> >> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo does.
> >> This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
> >
> > transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
>
> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value, in
> that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This fake
> shit is pointless.
>
I think that Ewik Fudd here is totally pointless. I think
you must be smoking something that is illegal.
Go get some pussy, or get yourself a girlfriend.
> >> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how the
> >> background is offset from the background around it. Even the Gentoo logo
> >> is slightly off.
> >
> > See previous statement.
> >
> > Surely you can do better than that.
>
> I was simply pointing out my first impression, which was not positive
> because of those artifacts.
The artifacts?? Go clean your glasses off... probably just
sphagetti.
Sinister Midget
> At earth time Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:24:01 +0000, the following transmission
> was received from the entity known as Tom B.:
>
>> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
>> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
>> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
>> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
>> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>>
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
> It crossed my mind that a good advocacy project would be to set up a
> public net-accessible linux desktop which people could use if they wanted
> to have a look at the system before setting it up on their machine. You
> could use vncserver to export the display, and people could view it either
> through windows vncviewer or the java web applet vnc viewer. I don't think
> I have the resources (I'd want to run it on a completely seperate machine
> on a physically isolated subnet) or experience (mainly security questions)
> to do a good job of this and not risk compromising my system, but if
> anyone out there does it would be good if there was something like this on
> the net. Might have to set time-limited access per IP address to stop it
> getting overloaded.
>
> andy.
This got me started working on something on another machine. It's
giving me a couple of problems right now, but I have it going somewhat.
I need to work a few details out before I try putting it online. In
particular, some security thingies. But I hope to have it all set in a
few days (providing work doesn't slow me down).
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On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:03:17 -0600,
Robt. Miller <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <i3uqqv07l6320aq26...@4ax.com>, Tom B wrote:
>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>
>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>
Are you using root-portal for that? I haven't managed to config that
yet, still using root-tail, but I would like to get root-portal going.
Any chance of getting a copy of the configuration file you used for
that?
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Jim Richardson
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Looks fine, but if you are logging in as root, I'd recommend against it.
Far better to log in as a normal user, and su to root when you need to
do rootish things. Or even better, use sudo instead of su. (some config
required for that. )
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Franoculator
> Robt. Miller spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
> and the letters spelled:
>>
>> http://robtmil.com
>
> What is that little seti app in the top right corner called?
Nevermind...It's msetimon.
Scarletdown
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> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:52:10 -0000,
> Scarletdown <Secret...@MYTAILFEATHERSSoftHome.net> wrote:
>> Here's the desktop on my current Linux project:
>>
>> http://webpages.charter.net/scarletdown/Misc/Lanya-Desktop-00.JP
>> G
> Looks fine, but if you are logging in as root, I'd recommend
> against it. Far better to log in as a normal user, and su to
> root when you need to do rootish things. Or even better, use
> sudo instead of su. (some config required for that. )
I'll be creating a couple user accounts eventually. But right now,
this really isn't a major issue for me. The Linux system I'm working
on, I have designated as a Linux training and experimentation
station. So If I screw something up because I'm logged in as root, I
can simply wipe the system and start from scratch. Also, I don't
_think_ I'm at any significant risk from intrusions, because this
system connects to the Internet through a Win-98SE Lite system
running Zone Alarm Pro, which I have not ever had any problems with.
That system, BTW, will also eventually be getting Linux (RH9), once I
do a little more experimenting on the trainer. Only reason that one
is currently running 98SE now is because 98 has become real quick and
easy for me to set up. Took me about a 1/2 hour or so to have her
fully operational and set up for Internet Connection Sharing (cable
modem via the USB port).
I actually do have a hard drive set up with Linux for that one. I
just haven't had time to figure out how to configure a proxy server
or a firewall on it yet. So until I can set aside some time to
experiment, the Linux drive remains disconnected, and the Windows
drive remains operational. I'm actually looking forward to finally
getting him permanently operational with Linux, since that means I
can free up the Windows drive (4GB) for another project.
Jim Richardson
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You can do much the same thing, by booting one of the firewall distros,
and answering a few simple questions. They don't even install to the HD,
so there's nothing to install per se. Coyote Linux, Openwall,
smoothwall, a couple of others. Some CD distros, Coyote Linux is, IIRC,
a single floppy distro.
No need to install a full sized distro like RH9 for a router/firewall.
Not running as root, is a good habit to get into, no matter how secure
you feel now.
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i.e., none to speak of.
-- Lazarus Long
Robt. Miller
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> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:03:17 -0600,
> Robt. Miller <robtmil....@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In article <i3uqqv07l6320aq26...@4ax.com>, Tom B wrote:
>>> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
>>> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>>>
>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>
>> http://robtmil.com
>>
>>
>
>
> Are you using root-portal for that? I haven't managed to config that
> yet, still using root-tail, but I would like to get root-portal going.
> Any chance of getting a copy of the configuration file you used for
> that?
Don't know what root-portal is. Tell me which thing you're referring to
and I'll tell you how I did it.
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Rick
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:34:36 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>> Erik Funkenbusch spilled his alphabet soup on the floor, and the letters
>> spelled:
>>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:36:05 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
>>>>
>>>> http://franoculator.ath.cx:8880/aquashot.png
>>>>
>>>> That's my desktop. It's big, becuase I have 3 heads. It's running
>>>> pekwm, version 0.1.3, with transparant Eterms, xchat, xmms, some
>>>> gkrells, and mozilla-firebird.
>>>>
>>>> Firebird, xmms, and the gkrellms all have aqua themes to match the
>>>> pekwm theme I am currently using..
>>>
>>> Either you faked this, or X transparency is really piss-poor.
>>
>> You have got to be shitting me. For you to even suggest that I faked it
>> proves how low of a troll you really are.
>
> I said "either". As you state below, it's because it's the latter.
In your opinion, which apparently, others do not share.
>
>>> Two things to note:
>>>
>>> First, on the xterm on the upper left, note how the the shaded windows
>>> behind it do not show through the transparency, yet the gentoo logo
>>> does. This is a sure fire sign that it's not real transparency at all.
>>
>> Okay, those are not xterms. They are Eterms. Eterms offer "artificail
>> transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
>
> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value,
> in that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This
> fake shit is pointless.
If it is pointless, why do some people like and use it?
>
>>> Second, on the xterm on the lower left, the one running top. Note how
>>> the background is offset from the background around it. Even the
>>> Gentoo logo is slightly off.
>>
>> See previous statement.
>>
>> Surely you can do better than that.
>
> I was simply pointing out my first impression, which was not positive
> because of those artifacts.
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Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
>> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value,
>> in that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This
>> fake shit is pointless.
>
> If it is pointless, why do some people like and use it?
As someone else pointed out, he seems to be a bit jealous. In the world
he lives in, it is not possible to customize 100% of his desktop
environment. That's a feature he would like, but since he cannot have
it, he throws insults and argues that people shouldn't use settings that
they prefer.
In his world, the UI is very standard. No desktops have personality.
It seems, in a round about way, that he's trying to push his favorite OS
by attacking the strongpoints of another.
The FUDsters are surely running short on ideas.
Jesse F. Hughes
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:34:36 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>> Okay, those are not xterms. They are Eterms. Eterms offer "artificail
>> transparancy" that displays the underlying desktop background.
>
> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value, in
> that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This fake
> shit is pointless.
"Real" transparency very rarely has any real value, aside from
aesthetic value. Eterm's transparency presumably has some aesthetic
value, too, even if it's not as pretty as the "real" thing. It is
certainly computationally much easier, so that those who want it (me
included) can have the appearance of transparency without the cost of
perfect transparency.
The fake shit is pointless if you don't want it. In this respect,
your criticism is an echo of every criticism you have regarding
Linux. If anything was any good, Windows would do it the same way.
If Windows doesn't do it that way, then that's a bad way to do it.
Your opinion is dull, narrow and stupidly arrogant. Why don't you go
away again, little man?
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*did* happen, so he wasn't really out of his times." -- JSH on Galois
(1811 - 1832) prefiguring the French Revolution (1789)
Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> Johan Lindquist wrote:
>> <http://www.smilfinken.net/screenshots/xfce/gentoo_xfce4_desktop.png>
> Lindquist++ for having "sugapablo" in your screenshot. ;)
Lindquist-- for using xfce ;-)
Andy Baxter
was received from the entity known as Tom B.:
> I see a lot of posts about what would be necessary for encouraging
> more people to "Linux" (i.e. a Linux distrubition). Obviously, for
> current Windows users, a big factor would be the GUI. KDE, for
> example, can be made to look very nice indeed, much nicer than I could
> ever make Windows look without purchasing a third-party tool.
>
> Here's a screenshot of my current desktop:
> http://www34.brinkster.com/yahshell/ss.png
>
> If anyone has any screenshots of their own, free free to share =)
http://www.niftybits.ukfsn.org/desktop.png
(best viewed in konqueror, for reasons you'll see when you load it ;) )
andy.
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> As an aside, looks like you have a Dell laptop, you might want to
> consider wmi8k for the dock, rather than i8kmon, it's a true dockapp,
> and allows the same functions as i8kmon, with the addition of watching
> the RPM speed of the fans. It's worked well for me, although earlier
> versions had bugs. The latest has been quite stable and useful.
Thanks! I most certainly will.
Cheers,
Rob
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Sinister Midget
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 02:48:17 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> I fail to see the point of such a feature. Real transparency has value,
>> in that it allows you to see what's going on behind your window. This
>> fake shit is pointless.
>
> If it is pointless, why do some people like and use it?
This isn't unusual for Ewik. He was pondering the uselessness of
multiple desktops when his precious WinDOS was being slammed for the
poor implementation they did. I pointed out that it's the only thing at
work that's nearly universally liked.
If Erik doesn't use/like/need it, it should be done away with
apparently.
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Erik Funkenbusch
> As someone else pointed out, he seems to be a bit jealous. In the world
> he lives in, it is not possible to customize 100% of his desktop
> environment. That's a feature he would like, but since he cannot have
> it, he throws insults and argues that people shouldn't use settings that
> they prefer.
I have true transparency already. And you're completely mistaken if you
believe I can't customize 100% of my desktop.
> In his world, the UI is very standard. No desktops have personality.
> It seems, in a round about way, that he's trying to push his favorite OS
> by attacking the strongpoints of another.
My desktop has quite a bit of personality. You're mistaken.
Try looking at some examples:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/192337/
http://www.litestep.net/snapshot1.png
http://www.metaphorcity.com/evwm/evwm3.gif
http://skins.stardock.com/gillon/nextstart/Revised.jpg
http://skins.stardock.com/Skwire/nextstart/urban-terror-ns.jpg
http://floa.ch/images/litestep/screenshot-052102.png
> The FUDsters are surely running short on ideas.
You don't know anything about the topics you are pretending you are
knowledgeable of.
Peter Köhlmann
Fine. Now do all of that without 3rd-party apps.
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Johan Lindquist
Michael Vester was all like, "Dude,
> Usually I use a background with a nice picture of my cat like
> so: http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot2.png So far,
> politically correct. But I am sure that some group with nothing
> better to whine about, will find offense with this background.
If I showed it to this guy, I'm sure he'd have an opinion.
<http://www.smilfinken.net/screenshots/xfce/gentoo_xfce4_mutt.png>
Problem with him is that he makes some of the text in the aterms hard
to read, and I'm not so fond of using the xor setting.
(Is it about time to rename this thread to "linux users and their pets"
yet?)
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Michael Vester
> On 2003-11-09, Michael Vester <michae...@shaw.com> wrote:
> >
> > Usually I use a background with a nice picture of my cat like so:
> > http://members.shaw.ca/michaelvester/snapshot2.png
> > So far, politically correct. But I am sure that some group with
> > nothing better to whine about, will find offense with this
> > background.
>
> Nice pussy.
>
She sure is. And she is highly sophisticated and very elegant.
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Franoculator
and the letters spelled:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:23:32 GMT, Franoculator wrote:
>
>> As someone else pointed out, he seems to be a bit jealous. In the world
>> he lives in, it is not possible to customize 100% of his desktop
>> environment. That's a feature he would like, but since he cannot have
>> it, he throws insults and argues that people shouldn't use settings that
>> they prefer.
>
> I have true transparency already. And you're completely mistaken if you
> believe I can't customize 100% of my desktop.
It doesn't appear that you can change your window manager. If that's
the case, the windows GUI is useless, and should simply be done away
with.
>> In his world, the UI is very standard. No desktops have personality.
>> It seems, in a round about way, that he's trying to push his favorite OS
>> by attacking the strongpoints of another.
>
> My desktop has quite a bit of personality. You're mistaken.
>
> Try looking at some examples:
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/view/192337/
> http://www.litestep.net/snapshot1.png
> http://www.metaphorcity.com/evwm/evwm3.gif
> http://skins.stardock.com/gillon/nextstart/Revised.jpg
> http://skins.stardock.com/Skwire/nextstart/urban-terror-ns.jpg
> http://floa.ch/images/litestep/screenshot-052102.png
How much did the software to do that cost?
>> The FUDsters are surely running short on ideas.
>
> You don't know anything about the topics you are pretending you are
> knowledgeable of.
Maybe...maybe not.