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DFS

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Nov 27, 2006, 8:39:52 AM11/27/06
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Hadron Quark

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Nov 27, 2006, 8:47:36 AM11/27/06
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"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:

Yeah, but what about Bubble Bobble? :)

BearItAll

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Nov 27, 2006, 8:55:00 AM11/27/06
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DFS wrote:

Of cause we knew that the MS Vista games player side would work, I bet that
was number one on the list of priorities for Vista.

Number two was probably to design a better blue screen of death, they didn't
manage that though because its still the same colour and text. Just goes to
show, once you come up with a perfectly designed page you just have to stay
with it.

From what I can gather that is in fact the whole of the list for the Vista
design spec.

DFS

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Nov 27, 2006, 9:32:42 AM11/27/06
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Here's a long list of reasons Vista will maintain Windows masterful hold on
desktop OS's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista

BearItAll

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Nov 27, 2006, 10:55:45 AM11/27/06
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DFS wrote:

There are some good things on that list, including some where you can only
respond with 'At last! But why didn't they do that earlier'.

All users are in a standard user mode by default, with prompts for admin
password if privelidges are needed. I am not sure that the method, as
described, for requesting the admin password would prevent spoofing. Unless
they mean that in the back ground during this process the message queues do
not accept additional messages.

The ASLR (Address Space Layout Randomization) is a false ecconomy. Built
into the 486+ and 68xxx is the ability to prevent anything going out of
it's own space. Application software can be effectively hardware locked out
of system areas, violations are errors that can be handled by the OS. Ok,
they haven't implemented any of this so have to deal with it as it is now,
but that was an area they could have sorted out in the 5 years that they
have had. With that in mind randomizing the layout is a reasonable step. I
still say that shouldn't be out in the open though. That is why refferences
are used in shared memory systems rather than direct access, because the it
means that the system can put memory storage any where it likes.

Windows has always used ram in top-down fashion, so if you do have access to
the whole of ram, then it isn't too much problem to map wht is where. It
would have served the same purpose therefore to malloc some random size on
the top, or between, layers.

I like the sound of the portable execution system, but it does give the
impression that there is a list of a particular format somewhere, find the
list and all is lost, even with the use of random numbers.

Probably the big one on that page though is that they have taken steps to
seperate code and data. Data should never be in a position where it might
be executed. Apart from the obvious crash potential, there is the
worm/trogen and many others that have one less way in.


So yes, all in all the security aspects look good on paper. That is my big
beef, get Windows secure and we can all move on to better things (even if
we do carry on fighting because I wear a Linux tshirt and you wear a Visata
one, boys will be boys).

Its just unfortunate that the kernel has already been cracked so it might
not get further than a paper exercise.

flatfish+++

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Nov 27, 2006, 11:09:43 AM11/27/06
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Where is Tetris for Linux!!!!
How about Pong?

Hahah!

The Ghost In The Machine

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Nov 27, 2006, 11:02:58 AM11/27/06
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DFS
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<UFCah.26113$m9.1...@bignews2.bellsouth.net>:

There's only *one* reason Vista will become the new
monopoly: Microsoft Marketing(tm).

With Microsoft Marketing(tm), one can turn:

- a sow's ear into a silk purse
- cacophony into music
- deranged ramblings into intelligent dissertations
- lines into abstract art
- abstract art into real pictures
- real pictures into real experiences
- real experiences into ... oh, wait, let's backtrack here...
- glass into diamonds
- an old clunker without wheels into a brand new luxury car
- a toy boat into a yacht

Microsoft Marketing(tm). When you care enough to sell the very best.
Plus everything else.

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OK

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Nov 27, 2006, 1:19:11 PM11/27/06
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Don't be silly! They probably have many flavors of each (OSS ==
choice, you know...) all of them in non-proportional, bitmap font text
mode. Hey, I'm sure you can play Pong on a TTY :-)

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Nov 27, 2006, 5:00:39 PM11/27/06
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asstroturfer DFS wrote on behalf of micoshaft corporation:

> .

Poor DFS. Just can't accept windopz games are sloooowww compared
to GNU/Linux games and keeps seeing 'things'.

Why don't you accept it DFS. Micoshaft has abandoned its (l)users
and switched to GNU/Linux and is now distributing SuSE Linux.

With 75% of all new projects in major corporations going open
souce and GNU/Linux, there will be no demand for windopz products
in 5 to 10 years time.

Thats why micoshaft have switched to GNU/Linux.

Why don't you too?!
http://www.livecdlist.com


The Ghost In The Machine

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Nov 27, 2006, 6:55:25 PM11/27/06
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, OK
<ot...@keiser.de>
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on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:19:11 +0100
<itamm25fe5qjs9qmp...@4ax.com>:

One can play Tetris in SVG, with a suitable plugin or browser:

http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.svg

Who says Linux doesn't have games? :-) ;-) :-)

http://torque.oncloud8.com/archives/000473.html

purports some other SVG games but most of them are AWOL, and
Pipes doesn't work on Mozilla Firefox.

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It's a question of when.

jack max

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Nov 28, 2006, 10:15:44 PM11/28/06
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Even with great tools like WINE and such, gaming on Linux is still
difficult. Some games just wont work for now. I hate to admit it, but I use
windows for games, and games are the only thing keeping windows around my
house. It will be a great day when we wont need things like wine and games
come FOR linux :).
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