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Chris

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Mar 15, 2006, 12:55:31 AM3/15/06
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I have been hearing a lot of commercials on the radio lately from the
Business Software Alliance. They are offering rewards for current and
former disgruntled employees if they rat out their companies for
software piracy.

http://www.nopiracy.com

I know they have been doing this for a long time, but these new
commercials served to remind me of it.

Yet another reason to go FOSS.

B Gruff

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:33:06 AM3/15/06
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You *have* read 1984 I trust?
(I assume that the rewards would apply to kids turning in their parents?)

Strangely, I always thought that 1984 was a "warning" against the so-called
communism of the old USSR.
However, I suppose that the last couple of pages of Animal Farm (same
author, of course) and the fact that "...the animals could no longer tell
the pigs from the men..." kinda helps to make some sort of sense of it all?

Jamie Hart

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Mar 15, 2006, 9:05:31 AM3/15/06
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B Gruff <bbg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:47qfs2F...@individual.net:

> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 05:55 Chris wrote:
>
>> I have been hearing a lot of commercials on the radio lately from the
>> Business Software Alliance. They are offering rewards for current
>> and former disgruntled employees if they rat out their companies for
>> software piracy.
>>
>> http://www.nopiracy.com
>>
>> I know they have been doing this for a long time, but these new
>> commercials served to remind me of it.
>>
>> Yet another reason to go FOSS.
>
> You *have* read 1984 I trust?
> (I assume that the rewards would apply to kids turning in their
> parents?)
>
> Strangely, I always thought that 1984 was a "warning" against the
> so-called communism of the old USSR.

Not really, Orwell was a communist at one time and fought in the Spanish
Civil war with the United Workers Marxist Party militia. He renounced
Communism after that but remained a socialist all his life.

1984 was more to do with those in control abusing their power.

> However, I suppose that the last couple of pages of Animal Farm (same
> author, of course) and the fact that "...the animals could no longer
> tell the pigs from the men..." kinda helps to make some sort of sense
> of it all?
>

Animal farm was his earlier attempt (1945 as oposed to 1948) at a similar
theme, power corrupts.

It seems Mr Blair (George Orwells real name, I bet it would have pissed
him off to see what his namesake is doing while in power) only had the
one point to make, though he made it well.

ray

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Mar 15, 2006, 2:09:58 PM3/15/06
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Shows my age and heredity, I guess - I thought BSA was Birmingham Small
Arms - used to make motorcycles and other stuff.

William Poaster

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Mar 15, 2006, 6:12:09 PM3/15/06
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Airguns too, I used to have one. www.bsaguns.co.uk

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Jim

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Mar 15, 2006, 6:45:17 PM3/15/06
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they used to make barrels for the (now defunct) Webley Company. I have a
Stingray with a Birmingham stamp on the barrel... rare as rocking horse
shit these days.

William Poaster

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Mar 15, 2006, 7:48:20 PM3/15/06
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I have a 0.22 Webley Tempest pistol.

> I have a Stingray with a Birmingham stamp on the barrel... rare as rocking horse
> shit these days.

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Jim

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Mar 16, 2006, 3:46:23 AM3/16/06
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William Poaster wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:45:17 +0000, Jim wrote:
>
>
>>William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:09:58 -0700, ray wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:55:31 +0000, Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have been hearing a lot of commercials on the radio lately from the
>>>>>Business Software Alliance. They are offering rewards for current and
>>>>>former disgruntled employees if they rat out their companies for
>>>>>software piracy.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.nopiracy.com
>>>>>
>>>>>I know they have been doing this for a long time, but these new
>>>>>commercials served to remind me of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yet another reason to go FOSS.
>>>>
>>>>Shows my age and heredity, I guess - I thought BSA was Birmingham Small
>>>>Arms - used to make motorcycles and other stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>Airguns too, I used to have one. www.bsaguns.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>
>>they used to make barrels for the (now defunct) Webley Company.
>
>
> I have a 0.22 Webley Tempest pistol.
>

oh, yes, gorgeous pistols they are :)
tho I prefer CO2 power for pistols - I have a Walther CP-88, a Beretta
92FS and (my personal favourite) a Makharov MP-654K

Johan Lindquist

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Mar 16, 2006, 4:23:41 AM3/16/06
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So anyway, it was like, 09:46 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Jim was all like, "Dude,

> tho I prefer CO2 power for pistols - I have a Walther CP-88, a
> Beretta 92FS and (my personal favourite) a Makharov MP-654K

So how /do/ you get the CO2 to stay in the casings while you seat the
bullets for the 9mm ammo anyway? :)

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Jim

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:50:40 AM3/16/06
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Johan Lindquist wrote:
> So anyway, it was like, 09:46 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
> Jim was all like, "Dude,
>
>
>>tho I prefer CO2 power for pistols - I have a Walther CP-88, a
>>Beretta 92FS and (my personal favourite) a Makharov MP-654K
>
>
> So how /do/ you get the CO2 to stay in the casings while you seat the
> bullets for the 9mm ammo anyway? :)
>

roflcopter!

FTWHR, I'm talking about air weapons - serious cartridge weapons are
unbelievably hard to get one's hands on in the UK, even on ticket.

Jim Richardson

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Mar 16, 2006, 9:59:09 PM3/16/06
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I've had a few BSA's, a B44VS, (441cc scrambler) a 1959 A10SR (lovely
650 Twin) and a BSA manufactured SMLE #4Mk1* which currently graces my
brother's house.

I have always like the piled arms people, no matter what the product in
question was. Brummies with attitude...


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Jim Richardson

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Mar 16, 2006, 10:04:47 PM3/16/06
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You have my sympathies. :) I have enjoyed shooting all mine, and do so
on a weekly basis these days. Not as often as I'd like perhaps, but work
intervenes.

Current favourite? a 1960 era S&W Mdl 1955 Target model revolver,
basically, a model 25-2 in 45 ACP. About the fastest loading revolver
out there if you use full moon clips. Can clean a row of plates with it
in less than 4 secs.

(google for plate shooting, it's a barrel of fun, compete against you
opponant, and the clock, to knock down 5 or 6 large metal plates at
about 10m range) My best time, for a 5 plate shoot, was 3.07 secs, sweet
feeling :) Now if I could just get my average down below 4secs... Still,
when I started, a sub 6sec run and I was happy.

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Johan Lindquist

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Mar 17, 2006, 2:38:52 AM3/17/06
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So anyway, it was like, 16:50 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,

Jim was all like, "Dude,
> Johan Lindquist wrote:
>> So anyway, it was like, 09:46 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>> Jim was all like, "Dude,

>>>tho I prefer CO2 power for pistols - I have a Walther CP-88, a
>>>Beretta 92FS and (my personal favourite) a Makharov MP-654K
>>
>> So how /do/ you get the CO2 to stay in the casings while you seat
>> the bullets for the 9mm ammo anyway? :)
>
> roflcopter!
>
> FTWHR, I'm talking about air weapons - serious cartridge weapons are
> unbelievably hard to get one's hands on in the UK, even on ticket.

I hear that. It seems that the powers that be believe that if you
stop all the legal ownership of weapons, including for competition
purposes, somehow the illegal weapons will go away. I'm not clear on
how they make that connection.

Better get the most out of my CM22 and SW1911 before they take them
away. :)

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Jim

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Mar 17, 2006, 7:00:40 AM3/17/06
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aye, you can't beat Brum steel. Whether it's on a motorbike or a rifle,
it's practically indestructible and very, very dependable.

Jim

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Mar 17, 2006, 7:09:27 AM3/17/06
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nice... I'm happy with a six second, ten plate (we're talking Pez,
actually, not plates - I'd do plates at upwards of 100 yards, they're no
fun otherwise) knockdown at ten yards with my S200, ten-shot mag and
bolt action.

Jim

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Mar 17, 2006, 7:23:14 AM3/17/06
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Johan Lindquist wrote:
> So anyway, it was like, 16:50 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
> Jim was all like, "Dude,
>
>>Johan Lindquist wrote:
>>
>>>So anyway, it was like, 09:46 CET Mar 16 2006, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>>>Jim was all like, "Dude,
>
>
>>>>tho I prefer CO2 power for pistols - I have a Walther CP-88, a
>>>>Beretta 92FS and (my personal favourite) a Makharov MP-654K
>>>
>>>So how /do/ you get the CO2 to stay in the casings while you seat
>>>the bullets for the 9mm ammo anyway? :)
>>
>>roflcopter!
>>
>>FTWHR, I'm talking about air weapons - serious cartridge weapons are
>>unbelievably hard to get one's hands on in the UK, even on ticket.
>
>
> I hear that. It seems that the powers that be believe that if you
> stop all the legal ownership of weapons, including for competition
> purposes, somehow the illegal weapons will go away. I'm not clear on
> how they make that connection.
>
> Better get the most out of my CM22 and SW1911 before they take them
> away. :)
>

what needs to be done is the /sport/ of shooting needs to become more
mainstream.

I could count the number of members of my shooting club, which is
apparently one of the most popular private clubs in the country, on the
digits of both hands and both feet - and have change.

This, while it makes the paperwork very light and allows me time for
some actual shooting, isn't an ideal situation - the club is a business,
and like every other business, exists to make money (which to us is a
secondary concern - our primary concern is to have somewhere to shoot
legally on a regular basis), but right now we're not doing that. We're
ticking over, paying the range fees and the insurance, filling the air
tank, and putting the night's profits in a small jar.
We have five club officials, and the way we're going, the end of year
party is going to involve us sitting around a half pint of lager
drinking through rented straws.

Point being, yes I have somewhere to shoot, and yes I do enjoy the
sport. But yes, the sport is suffering from bad press at the hands of
the media and the bleeding heart liberals who seem to be under the
impression that guns are generally bad and that nobody should /legally/
be able to get his hands on one.

I've got one thing to say to that, and I think it's very obvious.

Toy BB guns, nerf launchers, staplers, water cannons,rubber bands,
drinks can ring pulls, paper clips, and garden hoses ALL have the
potential to kill at standoff range. I do sincerely hope that if guns
are banned outright, then these items meet the same fate very soon
thereafter.

FWIW, more people have died accidentally and as a direct result of
cranial impact with terminal fishing tackle (ie lead bombs, feeder rigs,
fly lures and spoons/spinners) than have EVER died in a shooting
incident. Let's ban angling with rod and line as well.

I could go on. But only if you want me to. This is an argument I've had
MANY times with people who are for some unknowable reason totally
against guns of any description, yet have neither met one nor handled
one. I'll part with this funny tho: my sister in law was one such. Until
I invited her to the club, lent her a pistol and pointed her at the
target. She's now a full member and attends regularly.

Jim

chrisv

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Mar 17, 2006, 7:43:16 AM3/17/06
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Jim wrote:

>FWIW, more people have died accidentally and as a direct result of
>cranial impact with terminal fishing tackle (ie lead bombs, feeder rigs,
>fly lures and spoons/spinners) than have EVER died in a shooting
>incident. Let's ban angling with rod and line as well.

You're cracked, obviously.

Jim

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Mar 17, 2006, 7:47:46 AM3/17/06
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Yeah. I think it was that last feeder rig that twatted me on the back of
the head.

Mark Kent

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Mar 19, 2006, 2:45:35 AM3/19/06
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Jim Richardson <war...@eskimo.com> espoused:

Hehe yeah... of all the improbable things, I had a BSA pushbike when I
was a kid :-)

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