For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other operating systems.
That single sentence is the one and only charter of the newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to discredit Linux. [/quote]
This is something that Gary has continuously violated for nearly the past decade, if not more, resorting to ad hominem attacks against the Linux advocate posting community.
-- HPT Quando omni flunkus moritati (If all else fails, play dead) - "Red" Green
John wrote: > The asshole known as trmanco, or tony manco, is a hypocrite of the 1st > order. > He is a rabid Linux zealot, yet he, amongst other rabid Linux zealots, use > MSN to IM.
Last time I checked we were still living in a free society. Using more than one brand of gadget does not make one a hypocrite. Trying to make something of this would however make one a zealoutous retard.
> What a phony...... > Here is the proof, right from Schestowitz's ICR log.
This is proof of nothing more than your own cluelessness.
> [quote] > 1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
> The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
> For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other > operating systems.
> That single sentence is the one and only charter of the > newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for > the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to > discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the > promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place > for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to > learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a > place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to > discredit Linux. > [/quote]
> This is something that Gary has continuously violated for nearly > the past decade, if not more, resorting to ad hominem attacks > against the Linux advocate posting community.
Gary and Timmy -- two stalkers. Have they informed the police? ;-)
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Congrats Tony, proof your Linux advocacy posts are working.
-- If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or less by definition, *promote* ignorance. Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
John <squatters.rig...@gmail.com> writes: > The asshole known as trmanco, or tony manco, is a hypocrite of the 1st > order. > He is a rabid Linux zealot, yet he, amongst other rabid Linux zealots, use > MSN to IM.
> What a phony...... > Here is the proof, right from Schestowitz's ICR log.
> trmanco today is monday and I can’t login to my msn im account Jan 12 14:33 > trmanco and I’m not the only one Jan 12 14:33 > schestowitz GAIM? Jan 12 14:33 > schestowitz Pidgin? Jan 12 14:33 > trmanco http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/… Jan 12 14:34 > trmanco pidgin Jan 12 14:34 > trmanco em empathy at least Jan 12 14:34 > trmanco I is giving me an internal server error Jan 12 14:34 > trmanco it* Jan 12 14:34 > trmanco (14:32:06) soap: current HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error > chestowitz Does it affect Micros~1 users? Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco now I can’t contact my freinds Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco schestowitz, I don’t think so Jan 12 14:35 > MinceR time to teach them about jabber and xmpp Jan 12 14:35 > kentma You need to get them onto xmpp/google. Jan 12 14:35 > schestowitz Let’s find out Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco I can’t confirm this with anybody Jan 12 14:35 > MinceR or psyc Jan 12 14:35 > MinceR i’ve heard pidgin problems Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco kentma, I try Jan 12 14:35 > MinceR 112714 <+_anon_> official msn client works, meebo works… pidgin > doesnt work, and they call it “internal msn error” (the other clients work > because Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco MinceR, it is not only pidgin Jan 12 14:35 > MinceR they can switch back to the older, working > protocol… msnp14 doesn’t work, and pidgin can’t switch back to the older > protocol… Jan 12 14:35 > trmanco it seems today empathy has that problem too Jan 12 14:36 > MinceR i use bitlbee and it hasn’t broken yet, but it might break once i > have to relogin Jan 12 14:36 > schestowitz *LOL* “internal msn error Jan 12 14:36 > schestowitz Is that new? Jan 12 14:36 > trmanco pidgin now uses msnp15 Jan 12 14:36 > MinceR bitlbee uses old gaim code (back then it was called gaim :> ) Jan 12 > 14:38 > MinceR afaik Jan 12 14:38 > trmanco I already asked some windows users Jan 12 14:38 > trmanco they can login Jan 12 14:38 > trmanco but somebody with empathy can login too Jan 12 14:39 > trmanco maybe it is using an old version of MSN’s crappy protocol Jan 12 > 14:39 > trmanco “Installing msn-pecan and changing to the WLM protocol worked for > me too - been off MSN through Pidgin for most of today in XP and Ubuntu > Intrepid. Thanks for the workaround!” Jan 12 14:44 > schestowitz
Good catch. Poor old Manco. All those months cultivating his Ubuntu forum "sleepers" and he's as transparent as a pane of glass.
-- "For example, user interfaces are _usually_ better in commercial software. I'm not saying that this is always true, but in many cases the user interface to a program is the most important part for a commercial company..." Linus Torvalds <http://www.tlug.jp/docs/linus.html>
Receiving a "you're one of my best employees" pat on the back from Telnet Terry is akin to a visit from Blind Pugh. You're now officially not long for the "advocacy" world ...
Telet Terrance does indeed think he's the boss of you guys. You do know that don#t you? The "trollfighter extraordinaire" that he thinks he is!
ROTFLM!
-- "Must be the heat. Causing sunstroke and mildly parboiling the brain. It always seems to be the hot countries/states that suffer from religious extremism, after all." -- Andrew Halliwell <spi...@ponder.sky.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
> Last time I checked we were still living in a free society. Using more > than one brand of gadget does not make one a hypocrite. Trying to make > something of this would however make one a zealoutous retard.
I use this protocol because I still have a lot of friends that use it... and you know, people make changes (friends,family) but it's not instant as I already said...
On the other hand, it is good for Pidgin... if I have a bug on this specific protocol, I'll just report a bug :) -- Linux - You must break it | Windows - It breaks itself
Phil Da Lick! wrote: >Last time I checked we were still living in a free society. Using more >than one brand of gadget does not make one a hypocrite.
Yep. The troll's lies are exactly the opposite of reality. A "zealot" would refuse to use an alternate tool, even if it was the optimal tool for an application.
____/ Tony Manco on Wednesday 14 January 2009 15:41 : \____
> Terry Porter wrote: >> John wrote:
>> < a load of wintrollfud nonsense>
>> Congrats Tony, proof your Linux advocacy posts are working.
> :)
> Meh, Don't even bother replying to a "ghost"
You should be worried if they hadn't bothered harassing. The effectiveness of your posts is proportional to level of abuse you get from the Microsoft Munchkins. Don't let them put you down; savour their misery. They don't belong in a Linux advocacy group.
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John wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:09:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>They don't belong >> in a Linux advocacy group.
> Neither do you, Roy Schestowitz. > Some real Linux advocates wish that you and your ilk would find another > hobby because you do far more to damage Linux and dissuade potential Linux > users than you help Linux.
Who for instance ?
I think you mean "Hadron Quack", "real Linux advocate"
GUFFAW
-- If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or less by definition, *promote* ignorance. Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
>> [quote] 1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
>> For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other >> operating systems.
>> That single sentence is the one and only charter of the >> newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is >> for the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to >> gather to discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux >> community and the promotion and development of Linux. It >> supports this as a place for those who would like to learn >> more about Linux to come to learn from those who know Linux. >> It does not call for it to be a place where the anti-Linux >> propagandists to gather in order to discredit Linux. >> [/quote]
>> This is something that Gary has continuously violated for >> nearly the past decade, if not more, resorting to ad hominem >> attacks against the Linux advocate posting community.
> Gary and Timmy -- two stalkers. Have they informed the police? > ;-)
It is the eve of Windows 7, we will see more astroturfing in all forums, pro articles from false linux advocates and ad nauseum. Largest propogated lie so far is that Ubuntu is bloated.
I have already seen one article that claims it will be an Apple OSX and Linux desktop killer, from a supposed Linux advocate.
Ubuntu runs fine on my Dell C600 laptop with 850 MHz Intel. It runs a tad quicker than Windows 2000 on it. Gnome user interface is straight forward, no hidden surprises, easy to use.
The greatest publicised deployments have been educational institutions, 52 million student users in Brazil, Macedonia, Indiana state schools, Russia, etc. Netbooks are selling and people are discovering that Linux is a perfectly acceptable alternative to Voleware. These users not only include those with meagre incomes, but include lawyers, bankers, corporate leaders, etc.
The truth will prevail, something that these trolls simply do not understand.
-- HPT Quando omni flunkus moritati (If all else fails, play dead) - "Red" Green
Terry Porter wrote: > John (Gary M. Stewart) wrote: >> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> They don't belong in a Linux advocacy group.
>> Neither do you, Roy Schestowitz. Some real Linux advocates >> wish that you and your ilk would find another hobby because >> you do far more to damage Linux and dissuade potential Linux >> users than you help Linux.
> Who for instance ? I think you mean "Hadron Quack", "real > Linux advocate" GUFFAW
Rather, I think both Gary and Hadron need to find a new hobby. It is readily apparent to all that observe the nonsense they both spout. Gary crossposted to rec.motorcycles, thinking to cause me harm. Hadron followed up in replies. It backfired on both of them.
-- HPT Quando omni flunkus moritati (If all else fails, play dead) - "Red" Green
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:00:59 +1100, Terry Porter wrote: > John wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:09:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>They don't belong >>> in a Linux advocacy group.
>> Neither do you, Roy Schestowitz. >> Some real Linux advocates wish that you and your ilk would find another >> hobby because you do far more to damage Linux and dissuade potential >> Linux users than you help Linux.
> Who for instance ?
> I think you mean "Hadron Quack", "real Linux advocate"
> GUFFAW
Ah, yes. There is nothing like a real Linux advocate, & the Hadron Quack troll is NOTHING like a real Linux advocate!! :-)
-- Linux as a desktop OS is pretty much doomed it would appear. Hadron <hadronqu...@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <fnd3jj$or8$2@registered.motzarella.org>
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:20:48 -0700, High Plains Thumper wrote: > Terry Porter wrote: >> John (Gary M. Stewart) wrote: >>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>> They don't belong in a Linux advocacy group.
>>> Neither do you, Roy Schestowitz. Some real Linux advocates wish that >>> you and your ilk would find another hobby because you do far more to >>> damage Linux and dissuade potential Linux users than you help Linux.
>> Who for instance ? I think you mean "Hadron Quack", "real Linux >> advocate" GUFFAW
> Rather, I think both Gary and Hadron need to find a new hobby. It is > readily apparent to all that observe the nonsense they both spout. Gary > crossposted to rec.motorcycles, thinking to cause me harm. Hadron > followed up in replies. It backfired on both of them.
Well Quack showed his "header reading" illiteracy again, so it was bound too.
-- Wintrolls are idiots & many have great difficulty realising that to walk, they need to put one foot in front of the other *repeatedly*, & that they don't necessarily need to use their knuckles at all.
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:09:05 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>They don't belong >>> in a Linux advocacy group.
>> Neither do you, Roy Schestowitz. >> Some real Linux advocates wish that you and your ilk would find another >> hobby because you do far more to damage Linux and dissuade potential >> Linux users than you help Linux.
> Who for instance ?
> I think you mean "Hadron Quack", "real Linux advocate"
> GUFFAW
Oh, "John" flatfish Gary Stewart is the only other existing "true linux advocate" besides Hadron Snot Quark They both have said so, and who are we to counter their claims? -- Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience...
High Plains Thumper wrote: >I think both Gary and Hadron need to find a new hobby. >It is readily apparent to all that observe the nonsense they both >spout. Gary crossposted to rec.motorcycles, thinking to cause me >harm. Hadron followed up in replies. It backfired on both of them.
That was funny. The rec.motorcycle guys immediately recognized Quack and flatshit for the trolling assholes that they are. Obviously it's not just "cola nuts" who are of that opinion.
