Already two-thirds of all organizations is not planning to upgrade to
Windows 7 EVER, and the rest is still undecided.
I'm pretty sure this number will increase to 95% once Windows 7 is
released, resulting in a MSFT stock crash. You have to ask yourself
what's in Windows 7 that would entice you to make the switch? The anser
is an unqualified: 'Nothing!' It's still as unsecure as all previous
Winddummy OS'es, it's even more bloated and extremely slow. In fact, it
would be fair to say that for all the releases of Windows and Office,
Microsoft technology has been at a standstill, consolidating at best.
Google OS will be a much better proposition, even though nobody knows
what it looks like.
Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
Corporations just can't afford 1) New computers, 2) Retooling home
brewed applications that won't work on Vista 7 as are, and 3) The IT
personnel necessary for the conversion.
> Google OS will be a much better proposition, even though nobody knows
> what it looks like.
I think Google Chrome OS will be cool, but I don't see any major shift
by corporations to Google's OS -- for reasons two and three (above). I
think everyone is pretty much going to stay with the status quo. Where
Chrome will make inroads is in netbooks and where Google docs are
already making inroads (small businesses and schools).
> Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
Well, yeah.
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"There's a story there...somewhere"
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Ik denk dat je kan doorgaan als een akelige vreselijke endeldarmtoerist.
Ik vind jou een opgeklopte oostaziatische bloempot.
Wat ben jij een patserige geflambeerde wafelijzer.
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Jij bent vast een verslaafde himalayaanse imitatie-carnavals-mussolini.
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Jij werkschuwe gediplomeerde schurftkut.
Ik denk dat je kan doorgaan als een vunzige door de wc gezakte bult.
Wat ben jij een uitgerekte orgy-feestjes bezoekende zeeteef.
Jij bent nu echt een mongoloide onevenwichtige portieksnol.
Straks vind ik je nog een slome gapende hondenzak.
Jij bent nu echt een orgy-feestjes bezoekende gehomofileerde zweetreet.
Yep....
Looks like he is now shilling himself again.
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/07/13/windows_7_scriptlogic_poll/
>
> Already two-thirds of all organizations is not planning to upgrade to
> Windows 7 EVER, and the rest is still undecided.
Uhh.. what? The article clearly says that 34% are planning to roll it out
by the end of 2010. How i that "undecided"?
What's more, XP licenses just aren't going to be available. If they buy
new computers, they will have to roll out Windows 7. Not like this is a
surprise to anyone, MS has been saying this for 2 years, so those that get
"surprised" will have only themselves to blame.
> I'm pretty sure this number will increase to 95% once Windows 7 is
> released, resulting in a MSFT stock crash.
You're pretty sure, huh. Tell you what, if that happens, I'll pay you
$100 dollars US if you will pay me $100 US if it doesn't happen.
Willing to put your money where your mouth is? I wouldn't, if I were you,
since you can't even seem to bother to read the article you're linking to.
> You have to ask yourself
> what's in Windows 7 that would entice you to make the switch?
No, you don't have to ask yourself that. You will, one day, upgrade your
computer. At that time, if you want Windows, you have only the choice of
Windows 7.
> Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
You hate everything.
> Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
>
You got anything else you want to bitch, whine and howl about?
Yeah, go ahead and express yourself. :-P
> > Already two-thirds of all organizations is not planning to upgrade to
> > Windows 7 EVER, and the rest is still undecided.
> > I'm pretty sure this number will increase to 95% once Windows 7 is
> > released, resulting in a MSFT stock crash.
Looks like Dell's already feeling the pain. They haven't been able to
offer the downgrade to XP Media, so now sales are really faltering
badly.
> > You have to ask yourself
> > what's in Windows 7 that would entice you to make the switch?
A hypervisor, similar to the one in Windows 2008 that lets you run
Linux and Windows concurrently using Xen and a "dual-boot"
configuration. Lets you boot one or both. If the system is sold with
both Windows 7 and SUSE Linux installed, running concurrently, with
Windows running in one of the Linux virtual desktops, that might do
it.
> > The anser is an unqualified: 'Nothing!'
> > It's still as unsecure as all previous Winddummy OS'es,
It's like when grandma insists on keeping the doggie door unlocked so
that fluffy can get in and out even in the wee hours of the morning.
Microsoft won't give up their "doggie door", which they use to monitor
piracy and end user configurations. It gives them $billions worth of
information, even if it costs end-users $trillions in damages.
> > it's even more bloated and extremely slow. In fact, it
> > would be fair to say that for all the releases of Windows and Office,
> > Microsoft technology has been at a standstill, consolidating at best.
No problem - by this time next year, the base Desktop or laptop will
be quad-core 2 Ghz CPUs with 1gb L2 cache, 8 Gb of RAM, and 32
Gigabyte drive cache to 500 Gb drives. That should be more than
enough to handle the extra demands of Windows 7, and Microsoft has to
use all that power, or else users might be able to run Linux
concurrently.
> Corporations just can't afford 1) New computers,
New computer hardware is just a fraction of the cost. There's the
cost of backing up every user's corporate and personal data, moving it
to the new machines, installing new applications on Windows 7, making
sure it all works correctly, and then replicating that for every
employee.
Normally, the CIO's job is to look for a case that shows increased
productivity. If the company has to cut 5%, 10%, or even 20% of the
staff to cover the cost of upgrading to Windows 7, will there be a
corresponding return on investment of 10%, 20%, or 40% over the first
year that will show up in the bottom line in the form of higher
productivity.
Ironically adding Linux to a Windows XP desktop can make the case for
higher productivity. If you make XP the client, and use a virtualized
image, so that the entire employee's Windows "image" can be stored to
the corporate network or removable USB storage, then if the XP system
does get corrupted by a virus, only the virtual disk gets corrupted,
and that can be quickly recovered from the "corporate image" or from
the USB drive.
This is much less expensive than the "disposable computers" suggested
by several columnists and Microsoft Executives.
> 2) Retooling home
> brewed applications that won't work on Vista 7 as are, and
Home-brew, non-Microsoft applications, and Microsoft applications
written for earlier versions of Windows, such as Office 2000, Project
2000, or Visio 2000. Microsoft has been known to deliberately "break"
previous versions of software with new releases of the operating
system or service packs.
> 3) The IT personnel necessary for the conversion.
Retraining the current support staff on how to manage and support the
new products.
Training all the users.
Lost productivity due to underconfigured hardware, new user
interfaces, and slow response on the new systems.
> > Google OS will be a much better proposition,
> > even though nobody knows
> > what it looks like.
The Google OS has been out on DVDs, published by a Linux magazine for
about a month. It was very easy to take it for a test drive using the
Live-DVD image. Of course, one of the features is the prominant
location of the Chrome Browser, and the ability to run the Chrome
Office applications that are pulled from the net.
> I think Google Chrome OS will be cool,
> but I don't see any major shift
> by corporations to Google's OS
> -- for reasons two and three (above). I
> think everyone is pretty much going to
> stay with the status quo.
Probably not. Corporations know that they need to upgrade to
something soon, because Windows XP will be on extended support when
Windows 7 is released because it's two releases behind.
Hardware makers might not be able to provide drivers for XP for new
hardware.
The question is whether they will want to pay huge sums of money for
new hardware, bigger systems, and still end up with all sorts of
compatibility, or will they want smaller, more economical systems that
can do all the stuff they really need to do without breaking the bank,
and it could be initially deployed on the existing hardware and rolled
into new hardware in a nice smooth refresh cycle.
Using Linux as the primary operating system and purchasing the
hardware with OEM licensed hardware that can be downgraded to
virtualized XP means that the hardware can be enhanced with new
features like USB-3, MAN, 3G, and and Bluetooth drives and still have
the backward compatibility with XP.
> Where Chrome will make inroads is in
> netbooks and where Google docs are
> already making inroads (small businesses and schools).
Or any computers less than 2 gig, any computers computers with higher
resolution displays, any computers connected to corporate networks,
AND as an enhancement to newer computers that will need to be capable
of running BOTH Linux and Windows concurrently.
> > Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
Yes. Most people would rather have a Mac, and about 15% of the PC
buyers are willing to pay a premium price for them. Linux users would
be willing to pay Dell a higher price for machines that ran both Linux
and Windows concurrently, the same way Mac does.
What people need to understand is that most corporations are not defined
by their IT infrastructure. They need it to work, but they don't need it
to be anything special. They generally have systems that work reasonably
well, and that they *know* work reasonably well, because they've been
around for a while. They're going to be extremely hesitant to replace
those known-good (or at least "known-workable") systems with systems
that they aren't 100% certain will work.
The precise conservatism that will substantially delay Windows 7
upgrades is also going to make companies extremely unlikely to switch to
Windows alternatives.
> Windows 7: I HATE IT *ALREADY*!!!
--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/07/13/windows_7_scriptlogic_poll/
>
> Already two-thirds of all organizations is not planning to upgrade to
> Windows 7 EVER, and the rest is still undecided.
Yeah, we've heard that before:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-274553.html
Sixty-two percent of the CIOs said they won't buy Windows XP. Business
users indicated they would go to Windows 2000 instead. "Those doing the
upgrade felt the benefits were significant or would move as part of their
enterprise agreements with Microsoft," the survey said. "A greater number,
however, aren't going to XP because of a lack of a compelling value
proposition, fear of disruption or unwillingness to buy a first version."
So I wonder why Microsoft wasn't in deep shit in 2001?
Because they decided to delay it until Vista ME II and Vitsa 7 ME III.
They've already passed that first milestone. The second is just a few
more months on.
--
Don't read everything you believe.
Perhaps you'd care to speak english.
What you just said makes absolutely no sense. Could you be a little, just
a little, less childish? I know you hate flailing about trying to come up
with an excuse that makes sense, but give it a shot.
>>> So I wonder why Microsoft wasn't in deep shit in 2001?
>>
>> Because they decided to delay it until Vista ME II and Vitsa 7 ME III.
>> They've already passed that first milestone. The second is just a few
>> more months on.
>
> Perhaps you'd care to speak english.
>
> What you just said makes absolutely no sense. Could you be a little, just
> a little, less childish? I know you hate flailing about trying to come up
> with an excuse that makes sense, but give it a shot.
I'm sorry you can't read. Honest. I feel your pain.
--
I am Homer of Borg. Prepare to be assim... mmmm, donuts.
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> On 2009-07-17, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> claimed:
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:29:38 -0500, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-07-16, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> claimed:
>
>>>> So I wonder why Microsoft wasn't in deep shit in 2001?
>>>
>>> Because they decided to delay it until Vista ME II and Vitsa 7 ME III.
>>> They've already passed that first milestone. The second is just a few
>>> more months on.
>>
>> Perhaps you'd care to speak english.
>>
>> What you just said makes absolutely no sense. Could you be a little, just
>> a little, less childish? I know you hate flailing about trying to come up
>> with an excuse that makes sense, but give it a shot.
>
> I'm sorry you can't read. Honest. I feel your pain.
I didn't think you could.