Re:Is Stupidity an Intrinsic WinTroll trait?
RonB
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RonB
You betcha'
RonB
> I Keep drinking that Kool Aid.
> I'm a Moron.
Peter Köhlmann
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:25:51 -0600, RonB wrote:
>
>> You betcha'.
>
> Can't answer the OP.
> It figures.
> Another Linux moron.
>
> It's a joy watching you losers scurry about like roaches when the light
> is turned on.
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High Plains Thumper
> The racist, liar and software thief Gary Stewart (flatfish)
> nymshifted:
>>
>>> You betcha'.
>>
>> Can't answer the OP.
>> It figures.
>> Another Linux moron.
>>
>> It's a joy watching you losers scurry about like roaches
>> when the light is turned on.
>
> Hi flatfish
You betcha'.
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(If all else fails, play dead)
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Phil Da Lick!
> Begging, inferior software and loony people who spend 24x7 posting garbage
> to forums like this one.
Loony people such as yourself, you mean?
William Poaster
Maybe he's referring to Glasser.
Mart van de Wege
<snip>
Hi flatfish!
Mart
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DFS
> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
> So what is wrong with that?
> Henry Ford wanted a Model T in every family.
> Chevy wants a Corvette in every house.
> Dodge a Challanger.
> etc.
>
> It's called drive, ambition, determination, vision, etc.
>
> Do you Linux retards think that this line of thinking isn't a part of
> every single corporation or country on earth?
>
> You are fools if you don't.
They're fools.
> Try walking into Proctor and Gamble looking for a job and telling
> them you love their competitors toilet bowl cleaner and that all
> toilet bowl cleaners should be allowed to exist on the market.
> You won't even get to first base.
I doubt Stallman or [H]ypocrite ever reached first base in their lives.
Maybe their sisters had some sympathy...
> The problem with Linux and Linux zealots is that it is easy for them
> to take a "let's share the knowledge" approach.
> Why?
> Because Linux is so utterly inferior and poor that they have nothing
> to lose.
And they have their Windows jobs and money to fall back on.
"Its ironic that Mr. Curtis, who has earned a combined salary of over a
million U.S. dollars from Microsoft, would now say that the rest of us
should work for free and give away our software. Open Source is an easy
philosophical shift for someone who has enough money now to retire."
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/a-microsoft-veteran-embraces-open-source/?apage=2#comments
Linosuck: "Thanks to Windows-related work we have plenty of money."
Kohlmann, HPT, Hyp Da Crite, Ballard, Gidget, JED, Hilliard, 7, chrisv, Dumb
Willie Poaster: Windows by day for work and earning, Linux by night for
playtime toy tinkering.
> That's what Linux is all about.
> Begging, inferior software and loony people who spend 24x7 posting
> garbage to forums like this one.
If it's such a "community" and open source is about contributing, why are
they always asking people to give them money?
> If Linux was really that good, it would have a decent market share.
> Free products generally break into the market if they are decent.
> Linux has not which says it all.
It's a well-kept secret, but the real Linux desktop market share is 12% to
13%.
And don't forget:
* "half of Europe dumped Windows"
* Linux "commands almost 100% of the desktop machines in China."
* "the entire German government, French government, most of Scandinavia,
/all/ of China, much of India..." switched to Linux
* Brazil switched to Linux
* Israel got rid of MS Office
* "Linux is expanding at the rate of 1 million+ desktops per week"
Phil Da Lick!
> Kohlmann, HPT, Hyp Da Crite, Ballard, Gidget, JED, Hilliard, 7, chrisv, Dumb
> Willie Poaster: Windows by day for work and earning, Linux by night for
> playtime toy tinkering.
Are you stupid, or just suffering from Rhonda-ism? I've told you bozos a
number of times my linux usage is work based.
DFS
Your business runs on Windows. Without Windows you would make $0.
Phil Da Lick!
Incorrect.
chrisv
>The racist, liar and software thief Gary Stewart (flatfish) nymshifted:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:25:51 -0600, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> You betcha'.
>>
>> Can't answer the OP.
>> It figures.
>> Another Linux moron.
>>
>> It's a joy watching you losers scurry about like roaches when the light
>> is turned on.
>
>Hi flatfish
Wow, the flatshit troll has really worked itself into a froth.
Take a bow, Roy, Tony, and Ron, for such a good advocating!
JEDIDIAH
> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
> So what is wrong with that?
World Domination usually requires a lot of collateral damage.
If you're really serious about this then you are probably evil.
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DumbForSure, DFS, is a stupid troll. I don't use M$ Windows POS for
*anything*.
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DFS - comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004
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William Poaster
> You betcha'.
It is indeed, a requirement of being a wintroll.
Sinister Midget
Doofie is pretty slow on the uptick. He's slowing down even more as
time passes.
Yes, I *use* Windwoes at work. Have to.
Yes, I *maintain* Winders laptops at work. Almost 400 of them, in fact.
I don't use those though, I set them up for people who qualify as
"power users" (they can push icons around on the desktop, change the
screensaver, flip the colors around, etc) and "noobs" (they turn it on
and type, and they're scared to do much else unless being talked
through it). But I don't use the laptops except when trying to
experiment with why certain things aren't working right (for the
benefit of IT, for whom I've already had to find 2 fixes).
OK, so I touch Windross 8 hours a day (minus the parts where I do the
other 75% of my job, and minus the 5-10% I have linux going for my own
purposes), and I _use_ linux the remaining 16 (minus whatever other
things I do when not at work).
I'd say that sends a pretty clear message about the piss-poor "quality"
of WindUHs if I choose to use something else at the times I really have
a choice in the matter.
Perhaps DuFuS can find a child, say about 10, who can help him
understand advanced concepts like these.
--
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-- Frank Zappa
Hadron
> On 2009-01-14, Phil Da Lick! <phil_t...@spammerskissmyarse.hotmail.com> claimed:
>> DFS wrote:
>>> Kohlmann, HPT, Hyp Da Crite, Ballard, Gidget, JED, Hilliard, 7, chrisv, Dumb
>>> Willie Poaster: Windows by day for work and earning, Linux by night for
>>> playtime toy tinkering.
>>
>>
>> Are you stupid, or just suffering from Rhonda-ism? I've told you bozos a
>> number of times my linux usage is work based.
>
> Doofie is pretty slow on the uptick. He's slowing down even more as
> time passes.
>
> Yes, I *use* Windwoes at work. Have to.
>
> Yes, I *maintain* Winders laptops at work. Almost 400 of them, in
> fact.
How? According to you it takes the average user about 4 hours a day to
maintain their own!
Also, what's Winders? Are you that silly fool Chuck from the Ubuntu
group?
> I don't use those though, I set them up for people who qualify as
> "power users" (they can push icons around on the desktop, change the
> screensaver, flip the colors around, etc) and "noobs" (they turn it on
And do a job of work which earns enough to keep cellar dwellers like you
employed in your little "I run this place" fantasy land.
> and type, and they're scared to do much else unless being talked
> through it). But I don't use the laptops except when trying to
> experiment with why certain things aren't working right (for the
> benefit of IT, for whom I've already had to find 2 fixes).
Sure. Gidget to the rescue eh? Did you use "puppy"? LOL.
>
> OK, so I touch Windross 8 hours a day (minus the parts where I do the
> other 75% of my job, and minus the 5-10% I have linux going for my own
> purposes), and I _use_ linux the remaining 16 (minus whatever other
> things I do when not at work).
Too much information and I hope you wash your hands.
>
> I'd say that sends a pretty clear message about the piss-poor "quality"
> of WindUHs if I choose to use something else at the times I really have
> a choice in the matter.
No. It shows you to be unprofessional and in need for sacking.
>
> Perhaps DuFuS can find a child, say about 10, who can help him
> understand advanced concepts like these.
What in your post was "adcanced"? You waste the companies time playing
with your hobby. And Linux IS your hobby.
--
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improvements to Microsoft's operating system and office software. It
just works."
-- High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
Phil Da Lick!
> On 2009-01-14, John <squatter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
>> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
>> So what is wrong with that?
>
> World Domination usually requires a lot of collateral damage.
>
> If you're really serious about this then you are probably evil.
>
> [deletia]
>
lol
Hadron
I know. He is funny. What on Earth trying to make your Company #1 in its
field has to do with Global Domination is anyones guess.
--
"Opening slide in movie: - Why Linux Sucks (4 Reasons) [no need to further explain, move along ....]"
-- High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
chrisv
>JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>> "John" wrote:
>>>
>>> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
>>> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
>>> So what is wrong with that?
>>
>> World Domination usually requires a lot of collateral damage.
>>
>> If you're really serious about this then you are probably evil.
>
> lol
Well, it's true. It's just a fact that monopolies are bad for the
consumer. It's just fact then even *trying* to obtain a monopoly
requires unethical, immoral behavior. It's just a fact that this kind
of behavior, and it's consequences, hurts people.
Phil Da Lick!
I know. I found the way he said it amusing, that's all, mainly the "if
you're really..." bit.
Rex Ballard
> Phil Da Lick! wrote:
> >JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> "John" wrote:
> >>> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
> >>> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
> >>> So what is wrong with that?
> >> World Domination usually requires a lot of collateral damage.
Bill Gates has also stated that his ultimate goal was world
domination.
> >> If you're really serious about this then you are probably evil.
Even if you are a benevolent dictator, you create the structure for
the abuse of power.
> > lol
They laughed at Hitler too, until his brownshirts stormed the assembly
and forced the legislators to vote him supreme dictator of Germany.
After that, there were plenty of really evil people riding his coat-
tails, ready willing and able to kill about 18 million people in death
camps, and several million more in World War II.
Had the U.S. not come to the aid of Britain, or had Hitler decided to
Invade Britain before invading the USSR, we might have seen the Nazis
reign of terror expand to the Western Hemisphere, including the United
States, with about 1/4 of the population joining the Nazis to keep the
remainder in subjugation- along with the deaths of perhaps another
20-30 million in the United States.
Notice that Bill Gates gave himself nearly 1 billion shares of stock -
250 million of which he has sold off. It effectively puts Gates and
Ballmer in supreme control of a commodity which is now a critical part
of the lives of nearly 4 billion people - including those who share
the 1.5 billion computers now available in the world.
IF Microsoft had the ability to access all e-mail, files stored on the
computer, or other critical information, and was able to identify what
would cause problems for a particular user, they could, for example:
- forward e-mails from a liberal senator to a right wing conservative
prosecutor, to have that senator ousted.
- forward files from a special prosecutor's PC to right wing press and
discredit a president, assuring transfer of power to the opposition
party.
- forward financial records to the IRS - to discredit opposition.
- disseminate information that would alter the outcome of elections
around the world.
Then, the winners would show their gratitude by:
Adopting a non-enforcment policy in judgements already rendered.
Initiating anti-trust actions against mergers that threatened the
power base.
Mandate further adoption of the pervasive technology.
Block the dissemination of competing technology.
But wait, Microsoft DOES have that ability.
Leaks of information on supposedly secure PC WERE disseminated.
The BUSH Administration did adopt non-enforcement of the Antitrust
Judgement.
The Bush Administration did initiate antitrust proceedings against a
number of Microsoft's competitors including Oracle, IBM, and Google.
> Well, it's true. It's just a fact that monopolies are bad for the
> consumer. It's just fact then even *trying* to obtain a monopoly
> requires unethical, immoral behavior. It's just a fact that this kind
> of behavior, and it's consequences, hurts people.
During the DOJ Antitrust hearing, numerous exhibits showing fraud,
extortion, blackmail, sabotage, and obstruction of justice were
submitted. Microsoft's Defense Witnesses, including Bill Gates
admitted under oath to criminal acts. The answers were evasive for
almost 4 hours, but eventually Gates admitted in court to those acts.
In the OHIO vs Microsoft case, additional exhibits showed that
Microsoft had not reduced their criminal acts, but had in fact
increased the number of these acts, had further engaged in illegal
acts, and had forced licensees to agree that criminal acts were
permitted on their computers.
Microsoft now has the ability to disable ANY Vista based PC, and the
EULA permits them to do it, AND demand extortion payments.
The Vista EULA also permits them to access ANY information stored on
your PC and use it for ANY purpose.
People who buy the Vista PC and downgrade it to XP are still bound by
the Vista EULA.
Microsoft has added additional similar terms to support packs and
upgrades for prior versions of Windows.
End users, corporations, and OEMs have forfeited their ability to
choose alternatives because their infrastructure is not equipped to
support competitors' products such as Linux distributions.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
True. Without Windows, /all/ businesses would be making more money than
they do now ;->
"You mean to tell me you can download decent web-server and CRM software
*for* *free*?"
--
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Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> They laughed at Hitler too, until his brownshirts stormed the assembly
> and forced the legislators to vote him supreme dictator of Germany.
<the Mother of all Godwinizations snipped>
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RonB
> The racist, liar and software thief Gary Stewart (flatfish) nymshifted:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:25:51 -0600, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> You betcha'.
>>
>> Can't answer the OP.
>> It figures.
>> Another Linux moron.
>>
>> It's a joy watching you losers scurry about like roaches when the light
>> is turned on.
>
> Hi flatfish
And even the "moron of the year" can easily install many different Linux
distributions -- unlike the WinTrolls who simply are incapable of grasping
something so simple.
I guess the CD has to be preloaded into drive for them.
Oh, wait a minute, did someone turn the switch on for them?
Terry's Web Server
The six amigos are at it again. This NG is a joke. :-P
RonB
> The six amigos are at it again. This NG is a joke. :-P
Well, leave then. It's nice to have you around for a few laughs but
occassionally you want to get some serious work done.
Rex Ballard
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Rex Ballard belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > They laughed at Hitler too, until his brownshirts stormed the assembly
> > and forced the legislators to vote him supreme dictator of Germany.
> <the Mother of all Godwinizations snipped>
Let me just bottom line this.
Microsoft is used on about 1.5 billion PCs.
Those PCs store critical business and personal information about;
The owner
The owner's employer
The owner's friends
The owner's customers and/or clients.
The owner's vendors and suppliers
Bids and proposals for customers and clients and from vendors and
suppliers.
The owner's coworkers, subordinates, and superiors.
The owner's personal e-mails and web browsing history.
There ARE well-known "back doors" which Microsoft considers strategic
"features".
ANYONE who knows how to exploit these back doors can:
Read ANY file on the PC.
Create ANY file on the PC.
Delete ANY file on the PC.
Send any file via passive FTP, http, or e-mail
Download and install applications that appear to be legitimate.
Provide bid and proposal information to competitors.
Get the owner fired.
Get a subordinate fired.
Leak information to the press.
Generate bogus e-mail from the owner.
Leak or generate bogus information to government regulators.
Leak information to political opponents.
Leak information to political allies that will cause them to
withdraw support.
Manufacture incriminating information, install it on the owner's
PC, and leak it.
All without the owner's knowledge.
There are computer trespassing laws which make such activities
illegal, but tresspassed system has to notify would-be trespassers
that this activity is illegal. Most Unix, Linux, and Mainframe
systems give such notifications when confidential access is
requested. Windows PCs don't even have the capability to give such
notice.
Windows security is STILL a serious problem with Vista and apparently
Windows 7, and the "script kiddies" have an even easier time infecting
systems now that Office 2007 is using OpenXML documents containing
executable binaries.
Script kiddies have grown up, many are in their late 20s and early
30s, and have found ways to sell confidential information to the
highest bidder, without giving away how they got the information.
They have also learned how to target specific candidates, which makes
it much harder for anti-virus writers to detects and purge such
viruses. Instead of infecting ALL computers they encounter, which
puts them on virus radar, they look for particular criteria, such as
organizations (using URL suffix), user names and e-mail addresses, and
other key elements. If the virus doesn't see what it's looking for,
it purges itself, eliminating the trace, making it invisible to anti-
virus writers.
In the past decade, we have seen repeated instances of confidential
information becoming publicly available, even though the information
was stored only on the computers of investigators who are not allowed
to disclose such information. They face a 10 year prison term for
disclosure of information related to active investigations.
Targets have included top leaders in the United States, England,
France, Germany, Japan, and South Korea. In particular, leaders who
attempted to prosecute or regulate Microsoft's monopoly activities.
Bill Gates has expanded his portfolio and lowered his "net worth
profile" by channeling funds through the Gates Foundation - avoiding
taxes, regulation, and publication of information related to
investments and holdings. Gates has always been effective at making
"high leverage" investments, and this includes buying good will and
political favors by supporting "charitable" causes such as fighting
AIDS in Africa, and immunizations for kids in 3rd world countries.
That gives him a lot of influence in not only those countries, but
among those in the "West" who support similar causes.
These could all be simple coincidences. Or they could be part of a
plan Bill Gates came up with in 1984 - described in some detail, and
appears to have implemented, with only Linux and OSS as opposition and
competition.
Those whom Gates has placed in power have revoked right to privacy.
Something as simple as purchasing an airline ticket gives the
governments of most countries the right to dig as deeply into your
personal life as they want. So that they can decide whether it's safe
to let you board the plane. Of course, if they see something they
don't like, they can stop anyone from getting on or off of the plane.
In 2004, they stopped Cat Stevens, Ted Kennedy, and several other
liberals from making major rallies in key states - by telling them
they couldn't get off the plane.
Leaks of Elliot Spitzer, John Edwards, and the Mayor of Detroit, and
the Governor of Illinois were orchestrated to influence not only
elections, but also to prevent Obama from naming potential enemies of
Microsoft to key positions such as Attorney General. Both Edwards and
Spitzer would have been great as Attorney General.
Ezekiel
"Rex Ballard" <rex.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:abb8e53b-8ef2-4cc7...@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 14, 11:05 am, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Phil Da Lick! wrote:
>> >JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> >> "John" wrote:
>
>> >>> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on
>> >>> every
>> >>> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
>> >>> So what is wrong with that?
>
>> >> World Domination usually requires a lot of collateral damage.
>
> Bill Gates has also stated that his ultimate goal was world
> domination.
>
>> >> If you're really serious about this then you are probably evil.
>
> Even if you are a benevolent dictator, you create the structure for
> the abuse of power.
>
>> > lol
>
> They laughed at Hitler too, until his brownshirts stormed the assembly
> and forced the legislators to vote him supreme dictator of Germany.
> After that, there were plenty of really evil people riding his coat-
> tails, ready willing and able to kill about 18 million people in death
> camps, and several million more in World War II.
Blah-blah-blah.... so now *you* are bringing Hitler into the conversation.
>
> The Vista EULA also permits them to access ANY information stored on
> your PC and use it for ANY purpose.
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
PROVE IT!!!!
Show *EXACTLY* where the Vista EULA says that MS can access "any information
stored on your PC and use it for ANY purpose."
Because unless you can prove this you are just another "advocate" LIAR.
DFS
<snip rampant paranoia>
One word Rex: Thorazine.
Ezekiel
"Rex Ballard" <rex.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:abb8e53b-8ef2-4cc7...@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Complete and utter nonsense.
I challenge you or any lying "advocate" to PROVE IT!!!!!!!
Phil Da Lick!
One more word DumbForSure: denial. Windows is full of holes whether you
admit it or not.
DFS
> PROVE IT!!!!
>
> Show *EXACTLY* where the Vista EULA says that MS can access "any
> information stored on your PC and use it for ANY purpose."
>
> Because unless you can prove this you are just another "advocate"
> LIAR.
A request for proof is like bug repellent to some of these lying cola
cockroaches. I've been asking Rex for proof of his blathering for several
years - hundreds of times - and he has NOT ONCE responded.
DFS
One site, HypDaCrite: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
Phil Da Lick!
That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion. We're
discussing windows. The assertion was: its full of holes. If you're
still in denial over that, talk to the owners of the 400million+ windows
machines out there that are totally owned.
William Poaster
DFS
> DFS wrote:
>> Phil Da Lick! wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>> Rex Ballard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip rampant paranoia>
>>>>
>>>> One word Rex: Thorazine.
>>>>
>>> One more word DumbForSure: denial. Windows is full of holes whether
>>> you admit it or not.
>>
>> One site, HypDaCrite:
>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
> That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion.
It's very interesting but you'll ignore it anyway and pretend only Windows
has security issues and vulnerabilities.
> We're discussing windows. The assertion was: its full of holes.
The assertion was Rex Ballard is schizoid and needs medical intervention
because he truly believes things like:
"Of course, if they [government leaders put in place by Microsoft] see
something they don't like, they can stop anyone from getting on or off of
the plane. In 2004, they stopped Cat Stevens, Ted Kennedy, and several
other liberals from making major rallies in key states - by telling them
they couldn't get off the plane."
> If you're
> still in denial over that, talk to the owners of the 400million+
> windows machines out there that are totally owned.
Prove it. You're just regurgitating 3rd-hand cola idiocy that can't be
supported in any way.
Phil Da Lick!
>>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
>> That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion.
>
> It's very interesting but you'll ignore it anyway and pretend only Windows
> has security issues and vulnerabilities.
Nobody pretended any such thing, however you dummies keep pretending
linux is as vulnerable as windows. It isn't and you know it.
chrisv
>We're
>discussing windows. The assertion was: its full of holes. If you're
>still in denial over that, talk to the owners of the 400million+ windows
>machines out there that are totally owned.
Not according to "Hadron" Quark...
--
"Windows works for them - and by screaming at them that it doesn't
until you're blue in the face wont change a thing." - "True Linux
advocate" Hadron Quark
Hadron
I don't think anyone has ever claimed that.
I would claim that if and when a reasonable proportion of home users use
Linux then the viruses will come. It is trivially simple to get users to
run scripts or install corrupted .deb packages.
e.g Release an nvidia-optimized.deb and news will be around the linux
community in no time. Loads of people will run/install it when they hear
the promise of 10x faster OGL and DirectX support. By the time the hoax
is discovered it will be too late. Users and roots the world over will
have /etc/rcS.d entries or silent little cron jobs or ls replacements
ticking away. Which is of course where Tripwire comes in despite Willy
and Peter not having a fucking clue as usual.
Having said that, my Debian system is rock solid, I know it inside out
(you have to to use Linux IMO) and it is much more secure than my XP
primarily because I feel more secure because I know how it works. Some
COLA dweebs will try and turn that into some sort of anti Linux tirade
no doubt but, well, screw them and their nonsense.
Phil Da Lick!
> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_t...@spammerskissmyarse.hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> DFS wrote:
>>>>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
>>>> That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion.
>>> It's very interesting but you'll ignore it anyway and pretend only
>>> Windows has security issues and vulnerabilities.
>> Nobody pretended any such thing, however you dummies keep pretending
>> linux is as vulnerable as windows. It isn't and you know it.
>
> I don't think anyone has ever claimed that.
Then by your admission linux is more secure than windows. Therefore the
statement "windows is full of holes" is a valid one.
Hadron
> Hadron wrote:
>> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_t...@spammerskissmyarse.hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
>>>>> That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion.
>>>> It's very interesting but you'll ignore it anyway and pretend only
>>>> Windows has security issues and vulnerabilities.
>>> Nobody pretended any such thing, however you dummies keep pretending
>>> linux is as vulnerable as windows. It isn't and you know it.
>>
>> I don't think anyone has ever claimed that.
>
> Then by your admission linux is more secure than windows. Therefore
> the statement "windows is full of holes" is a valid one.
I have always said Linux is more secure than Windows. But that does not
mean Linux is totally secure either. It isn't.
See if you disagree with anything below and try to keep it civil (on
both sides):
>
>>
>> I would claim that if and when a reasonable proportion of home users use
>> Linux then the viruses will come. It is trivially simple to get users to
>> run scripts or install corrupted .deb packages.
>>
>> e.g Release an nvidia-optimized.deb and news will be around the linux
>> community in no time. Loads of people will run/install it when they hear
>> the promise of 10x faster OGL and DirectX support. By the time the hoax
>> is discovered it will be too late. Users and roots the world over will
>> have /etc/rcS.d entries or silent little cron jobs or ls replacements
>> ticking away. Which is of course where Tripwire comes in despite Willy
>> and Peter not having a fucking clue as usual.
>>
>> Having said that, my Debian system is rock solid, I know it inside out
>> (you have to to use Linux IMO) and it is much more secure than my XP
>> primarily because I feel more secure because I know how it works. Some
>> COLA dweebs will try and turn that into some sort of anti Linux tirade
>> no doubt but, well, screw them and their nonsense.
>>
--
"Nice to know I live in your head, bitch."
-- Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
Phil Da Lick!
> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_t...@spammerskissmyarse.hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> "Phil Da Lick!" <phil_t...@spammerskissmyarse.hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/147119/187/
>>>>>> That's very interesting but irrelevant to this discussion.
>>>>> It's very interesting but you'll ignore it anyway and pretend only
>>>>> Windows has security issues and vulnerabilities.
>>>> Nobody pretended any such thing, however you dummies keep pretending
>>>> linux is as vulnerable as windows. It isn't and you know it.
>>> I don't think anyone has ever claimed that.
>> Then by your admission linux is more secure than windows. Therefore
>> the statement "windows is full of holes" is a valid one.
>
> I have always said Linux is more secure than Windows. But that does not
> mean Linux is totally secure either. It isn't.
>
> See if you disagree with anything below and try to keep it civil (on
> both sides):
Not really, however the vast majority of malware is distributed via
email. On a linux system that simply would not happen to the same
degree. Unless the x bit was suddenly done away with and everyone
started doing general tasks as root. Remember the biggest whammy with
malware isn't the determined hack - its the ridiculously simple script
kiddy approach that is doing the most damage.
Sermo Malifer
> When Bill Gates makes a statement that he wants Windows to be on every
> diesktop, the Linux kooks go wild.
> So what is wrong with that?
Elimination of competition is bad.
> Henry Ford wanted a Model T in every family.
No, Henry Ford wanted to make a car that everybody could afford to buy.
People who could afford better than a Model T didn't buy them.
> Chevy wants a Corvette in every house.
They do? Can you quote anybody from Chevy who said that?
> Dodge a Challanger.
Whatever that means.
> etc.
>
> It's called drive, ambition, determination, vision, etc.
When the goal is to produce the best product you possibly can.
> Do you Linux retards think that this line of thinking isn't a part of every
> single corporation or country on earth?
No, every corporation doesn't have absolute control of the market as its
goal.
> You are fools if you don't.
No they're not, even if you mislabel them as "kooks."
> Try walking into Proctor and Gamble looking for a job and telling them you
> love their competitors toilet bowl cleaner and that all toilet bowl
> cleaners should be allowed to exist on the market.
> You won't even get to first base.
Your analogy might make some sense if Proctor & Gamble were actually out
to establish a monopoly over toilet bowl cleaners. As it stands they
know that others have a right to exist, they don't need to be told.
> The problem with Linux and Linux zealots is that it is easy for them to
> take a "let's share the knowledge" approach.
Why would that be a problem? How did you switch to this from a company
establishing a monopoly?
> Why?
> Because Linux is so utterly inferior and poor that they have nothing to
> lose.
If that were true nobody would be using Linux to began with, and you
wouldn't have anybody to troll.
> It's kind of like the car in 75th place at the Indy 500 offering up his
> driving strategy with the first place car and then complaining when the
> first place car doesn't want to play along.
Actually it's nothing like that at all.
> Why should he?
Who cares why? Your analogy is false.
> That's what Linux is all about.
No, Linux is all about giving you freedom and control over your own
computer systems.
> Begging, inferior software and loony people who spend 24x7 posting garbage
> to forums like this one.
If you think that's true, why are you here?
> If Linux was really that good, it would have a decent market share.
It does!
> Free products generally break into the market if they are decent.
That would explain the plethora of Linux based products!
> Linux has not which says it all.
Your statement says more about you than it does Linux!