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Peter Köhlmann  
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From: Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:54:25 +0100
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 11:54 am
Subject: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs
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From: 7 <web_has_em...@enemygadgets.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:40:27 +0000
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

Serves them right for being BSD Pirates ;)

 
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From: "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:48:06 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

Which is why the Linux/OSS "community" is busy releasing new distros every
day.

 
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From: Cork Soaker <Thunderb...@Intrepid.invalid>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:07:24 +0000
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

Which linux distro are you advocating here?

 
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 More options Nov 23 2008, 1:40 pm
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:40:10 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out
  this bit o' wisdom:

> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

   This issue did not occur on Windows XP.

   Installation of Service Pack 1 and/or security updates had no effect in
   regards to resolve the random crashes.

   To execute either the sample program or the route-add command, the user
   has to be member of the Network Configuration Operators group or the
   Administrators group.

   Since this buffer overflow overwrites kernel memory, it could be possible
   that members of the Network Configuration Operator group exploit this and
   take control over the operating system without any restriction.

Not much impact, though:

   Impact
   -----------------------------
   1. When adding a route entry to the IPv4 routing table using the method
      CreateIpForwardEntry2 and passing an illegal value greater than 32 [2]
      for the destination PrefixLength member in the DestinationPrefix
      structure contained in the MIB_IPFORWARD_ROW2 structure [3], kernel
      space memory is being corrupted resulting in random blue screen
      crashes. ...

In other words, a SNAFU <chuckle>.

This impact is worse, though:

   2. In addition we were able to reproduce this issue without the sample
   program, using the built in "route add" command. It seems the "route-add"
   uses the same method as our sample program, hence creates the same buffer
   overflow when calling it with an illegal value for the network mask. The
   syntax we used in the command line is as follows:

      route add 1.2.3.4/240 4.3.2.1

   This buffer overflow could be exploited to inject code, hence
   compromising client security.

Ay yi yi.

What does that command do on Linux?

   # route add 1.2.3.4/240 4.3.2.1
   route: netmask 0000ffff doesn't make sense with host route
   Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>]           List kernel routing tables
   . . .

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From: Tony Manco <trmanco-use...@sapo.pt>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:55:56 +0000
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

And what is the best part?

#########

===================================
Kernel vulnerability found in Vista
===================================

"A flaw in Vista's networking has been found that can crash the system,
*but no fix is expected until the next service pack*"

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10106173-83.html

#########

Haaa, wonderful...
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From: "Clogwog" <BWAHAHAH...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:30:45 +0100
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
"Tony Manco" <trmanco-use...@sapo.pt> schreef in bericht
news:ggcg0s$aab$1@news.motzarella.org...

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

>> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
>> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

> And what is the best part?

That it took 4 months to fix this!
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/30126
LMFAO @ you!

 
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From: Jerry McBride <jmcbr...@mail-on.us>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:24:05 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

How quaint... Thanks MicroSoft...

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 More options Nov 23 2008, 4:46 pm
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From: Tony Manco <trmanco-use...@sapo.pt>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:46:39 +0000
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Clogwog wrote:
> LMFAO @ you!

How about 7 years...

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/319133

"Also found and demonstrated by dildog at defcon 3 years ago. So don't
hold your breath waiting for that patch."

LMFAO @ you!
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From: Homer <use...@slated.org>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:48:40 +0000
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
Verily I say unto thee, that 7 spake thusly:

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

>> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here. After all,
>> who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

> Serves them right for being BSD Pirates ;)

Serves BSD developers right for using such a lax license.

OTOH it wasn't they who screwed up the Vole's fork. Perhaps Microsoft
would be better switching back to the current upstream version. In fact
they should probably do that with their whole networking stack, since
they clearly don't have the first clue about networking at all.

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From: Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:52:43 +0100
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Jerry McBride <jmcbr...@mail-on.us> writes:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

>> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
>> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

> How quaint... Thanks MicroSoft...

maybe you should switch to Linux? Just make sure your ssh keys are not
compromised ....

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212&from=rss

It was there for 2 years leaving "Debian server" totally open to anyone
you could be bothered to hack in if they had sshd running.

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From: Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:09:31 +0100
Local: Sun, Nov 23 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Oh, looky looky: Hadron Quark, the "true linux advocate", deflecting a real
bad windows bug by pointing to a debian bug *and* implying it is a "linux
bug". In the vain hope that somehow, magically, this windows bug might look
somewhat less bad

Pray tell, liar Hadron Quark, which *other* distros had this bug? Be
precise. While you're at it, explain why Debian, your "distro of choice"
(if one is dumb enough to believe your claims), had this bug and no other
distro had. Might it have to do with a really idiotic decision on the part
of the debian maintainers?

So, why exactly is this a "linux bug", "kernel hacker" Hadron Quark?
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From: 7 <web_has_em...@enemygadgets.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:19:33 +0000
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Black Dragon
wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:

> 7 wrote:

>> BSD Pirates ;)

> Idiot.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

You knowledge challenged idiot and fool!


 
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From: Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:31:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
In article <49298ac1$0$31333$9b4e6...@newsspool4.arcor-online.net>,
 Peter Kohlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de> wrote:

> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/498471

> Well, they obviuously have rewritten their stack here.
> After all, who wants old bugs? *New* bugs are what the world needs

You know better than this, Peter.  By COLA standards, this doesn't count
as a serious bug, since it appears to only allow a local, privileged,
user to either DoS himself, or escalate privileges.

At least, that's the story when such bugs are found in Linux (which
happens several times a year for the kernel, and several times a month
if you include libraries and applications).

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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:15:25 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 24 2008 2:15 am
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

It does not matter if it is local or remote.
What *does* matter though that those incompetent monkeys at MS failed to do
even so much as a cursery check on values.
How much more of such time-bombs did they hide in their shiny all new Vista?
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:16:40 -0800
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
In article <492a548d$0$31342$9b4e6...@newsspool4.arcor-online.net>,
 Peter Kohlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de> wrote:

> It does not matter if it is local or remote.
> What *does* matter though that those incompetent monkeys at MS failed to do
> even so much as a cursery check on values.
> How much more of such time-bombs did they hide in their shiny all new Vista?

How is this different from when Linux kernel coders fail to check
values?  E.g.,

   <http://secunia.com/advisories/31509/>

which was a failure to sanitize user-supplied values before using them
as sizes for memory allocation.

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From: "Clogwog" <BWAHAHAH...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:45:42 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 24 2008 4:45 am
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow
"Tony Manco" <trmanco-use...@sapo.pt> schreef in bericht
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> Clogwog wrote:
>> LMFAO @ you!

> How about 7 years...

> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/319133

> "Also found and demonstrated by dildog at defcon 3 years ago. So don't
> hold your breath waiting for that patch."

Ha, ha! What about all those undiscovered exploits in Linux? Linux is
crashing constantly, take a look at DFS's posts.
http://ecos.sourceware.org/docs-latest/ref/devs-eth-synth-ecosynth.html
"Also, as with any suid root programs there may be as yet undiscovered
exploits"
You COLA liars always tell us that Linux is more secure than Windows, so
please explain why Linux & Windows have the same EAL 4+ rating?
http://www.integrityglobalsecurity.com/pages/learnCommon.html

LMFAO @ you!


 
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From: Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:42:58 +0100
Local: Mon, Nov 24 2008 6:42 am
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> writes:
> In article <492a548d$0$31342$9b4e6...@newsspool4.arcor-online.net>,
>  Peter Kohlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de> wrote:
>> It does not matter if it is local or remote.
>> What *does* matter though that those incompetent monkeys at MS failed to do
>> even so much as a cursery check on values.
>> How much more of such time-bombs did they hide in their shiny all new Vista?

> How is this different from when Linux kernel coders fail to check
> values?  E.g.,

>    <http://secunia.com/advisories/31509/>

> which was a failure to sanitize user-supplied values before using them
> as sizes for memory allocation.

No. no. Linux is not spelt "W-I-N-D-O-W-S" so that doesn't count.

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From: chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:53:36 -0600
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>Hadron quacked:

>> maybe you should switch to Linux? Just make sure your ssh keys are not
>> compromised ....

>Oh, looky looky: Hadron Quark, the "true linux advocate", deflecting a real
>bad windows bug by pointing to a debian bug *and* implying it is a "linux
>bug". In the vain hope that somehow, magically, this windows bug might look
>somewhat less bad

What an *asshole*, Quack is.  

 
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From: Tony Manco <trmanco-use...@sapo.pt>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:06:24 +0000
Local: Mon, Nov 24 2008 10:06 am
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Clogwog wrote:
> Linux is crashing constantly, take a look at DFS's posts.

Oh really, if "Linux" is crashing constantly why is Google still online?

> http://ecos.sourceware.org/docs-latest/ref/devs-eth-synth-ecosynth.html
> "Also, as with any suid root programs there may be as yet undiscovered
> exploits"

How about in Windows, do you know how many undiscovered exploits there are?
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:55:28 -0600
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Tony Manco wrote:
>> Linux is crashing constantly, take a look at DFS's posts.

>Oh really, if "Linux" is crashing constantly why is Google still online?

FFS is that really worth responding-to?  "look at DFS's posts"?
Sheesh.

 
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:10:52 +0000
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

chrisv wrote:
> FFS is that really worth responding-to?  "look at DFS's posts"?
> Sheesh.

ok I'll stop...
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:59:18 -0800
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

Wasn't that the whole foundation of the SCO suit? :)

 
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From: Cork Soaker <Thunderb...@Intrepid.invalid>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:37:54 +0000
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Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

chrisv wrote:
> Tony Manco wrote:

>>> Linux is crashing constantly, take a look at DFS's posts.
>> Oh really, if "Linux" is crashing constantly why is Google still online?

> FFS is that really worth responding-to?  "look at DFS's posts"?
> Sheesh.

Hahaha.  That's what I thought.

Results 1 - 10 of about 355,000 for windows crashing constantly
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=windows+crashing+constantly&ie=utf-8...


 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Cork Soaker <Thunderb...@Intrepid.invalid>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:39:27 +0000
Local: Mon, Nov 24 2008 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: VISTA TCP/IP stack buffer overflow

You think that two years is longer than seven years and counting?

Hardon, you mucky fucking liar!


 
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