"..... No real interferences on the horizon, but the volume will be hard to sustain when the undergrads return next week (Freshers' Week). I need to help getting newcomers connected (my daytime job).
Best wishes,
Roy ""
-- Moshe Goldfarb Collector of soaps from around the globe. Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Moshe Goldfarb wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:
> .
I think this more evidence for removing windummies from the workplace altogether.
Below are very sound business practices if to get rid of the WINDUMMY osen and replace it with free software. Original article by Rex Ballard.
" Here are some tactics I've been hearing about from different companies who are trying to prevent another "forced upgrade" to Vista at the cost of jobs, poor earnings reports, and loss of productivity.
Executive Management Approval Employees who want Vista or Office 2007 have to get approval from their supervisor, who has to get approval from his supervisor, and so on up the chain almost to the CEO or COO. If a lower level manager approves, and doesn't get prior approval from his management, a substantial charge is assessed to his budget, sufficient to clearly and negatively affect his bonuses. In effect, any Vista or Office 2007 he personally approves, comes out of his bonus.
The point is that most lower level workers are not willing to go through the hassles of writting a justification sufficient to merit the approval of a high level executive, and mid-level managers aren't going to eliminate their chances of promotion or bonuses by bucking upper management.
Self Funded Personal Platforms
The company will provide the PC and Windows 2000, XP, or Linux, but if the employee feels that he has to have Vista or Office 2007, they have to purchase it through the corporate procurement system, and the cost of the software will be deducted from their bunuses or raises.
Linux bonuses Company offers bonuses, or adds to annual bonuses based on the employee's ability to use Linux, with higher bonuses for Linux in Native mode, slightly less for Virtual Mode, because they have taken the time to self-train and take responsibility for their own desktop or laptop environment.
Annual surcharges. Rather than just giving every employee a copy of Windows and Office, the employees department gets charged for the licenses and support they are using. For example, a call to the help desk for XP issues would be over $300 per call. A support call for Linux might be as little as $30 per call. In addition, administrative fees and support fees for just having XP or Linux are similarly proportionally priced.
Full Time Reportinng Time spent dealing with Windows XP or Office issues, ranging from back- up and restore to reinstallation of software or Windows, has to be reported separately on a time sheet. If this time is from the 40 hour work week, it's treated similar to "sick time". If it's done in ADDITION to the standard 40 hour week, it is considered volunteer effort, but this gives companies a much better picture of how much time is spent dealing with Microsoft related issues, and makes a better case for switching to Linux.
Extra time spent installing and learning to use Linux ad Open Office are treated like training, since these are new skills that the company wants to encourage. Since this training time indicates a willingness to follow corporate guidelines, Therefore this is a positive when considering bonuses, raises, and promotions.
Client Provided software More consulting firms are now expecting the client to pay for special software. If the client is using Vista and/or Office 2007 and won't share documents in a legacy friendly way, the consultant has to purchase the software through corporate procurement, and expense it to the client along with travel and other expenses (at full corporate price). This is because too many clients have been "giving" pirated copies of Vista and Office 2007 to consultants, and the corporate licenses ONLY apply to permanent employees of the corporation. The consulting company is liable to Microsoft for the pirated licenses and could even face a $10,000 per copy fine for the copyright violation. In some countries, the penalties for stealing are quite severe, including the loss of body parts.
Automated License and software audits
Most corporations now have the ability to get a comprehensive list of who has what software, and many are on the lookout for pirated copies of Vista or Office 2007. If it's not on the inventory as a purchased license, then it's pirated. Many companies are also asking violators to come to the data center or customer support depot and have their laptops re-imaged. Some corporate desktops can automatically be re- imaged if pirated software is detected.
There are also some new viruses out that are causing full indexes of the entire file-system to be generated, and sending the index to some unknown location on a "trickle" basis. If your laptop is suddenly runnig very SLOWLY, this might be why.
Another virus is looking for file-sharing software such as bit- torrent, if it's found, the virus deletes all mp3 files. It only impacts Win2K, XP and Vista users.
Seems like a lot of corporate and hacker forces are starting to make Windows users really "suffer" for their addiction to Windows. And attempts to install Vista are pretty much the road to an "Intervention".
> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the > move to Linux?
> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
The article is an absolute gem!!!
- "As editor for LinuxInsider for more than a year now, I figured the time was right to start walking the walk with my personal machine."
Translation: He sounds like a typical COLA hypocrite. Advocate linux but run Windows.
- "Can I use iTunes? Nope, but there are a couple of apps -- such as Amarok and GTKPod -- that allow you to sync the device. You won't be able to use the iTunes store, but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you..."
Translation: "Those grapes are probably sour anyway."
- "How can I get my wireless networking card to work? My old Dell has a Broadcom B43 wireless chipset. That's a problem with Ubuntu... It took a small amount of poking around and searching Ubuntu's knowledge base to find out what I needed to do.
Still, that hasn't solved all of my wireless networking issues.... Problem is, the guy who asked the original question found his connection suddenly working for no good reason, so the advice doesn't carry through to the point where we discover what the actual problem is and how to fix it.
That's the way it is with open source -- tech support is the other users. So I'll be posting a new question in hopes of finding the answer. I'm just glad I can hardwire and get Internet access, or the problem would be a lot more severe.
Translation: After loads of research and configuration wireless still isn't working on his laptop.
- "Is there an automatic backup feature? Or an app available? Not really, but Ubuntu Forums has a pretty detailed set of instructions on how to accomplish a full backup through the command line."
Translation: Gotta love the old command line.
- "Is there a driver for my printer? Yeah, but that doesn't mean it works out of the box, like it would with Windows. I'm able to print documents, no problem. Photos, well, that's another story. Apparently I'm not the only person with the same issue. Sure, there's a workaround -- there always is -- but it means I've got to transfer the photo to an SD card, which I then put directly into the printer."
Translation: Linux supports lots of printers but only in their most basic mode. Nice "workaround" by the way - transfer the images to a SD card. Translation of this is that the linux printer drivers simply can't print an image.
- "...so making it work takes some tinkering. That's one of the charms of Linux: You can tinker with it and learn about it along the way,
Translation - "Tinkering - That's one of the charms of Linux." Others would call it high maintenance. While the editor of "Linux Insider" might think it's fun and charming to tinker all day with his OS other people simply want a tool to use. To most people this is about as charming as a refridgerator that you need to fix daily or that charming 1976 AMC Gremlin that you get to "tinker" with every time you want the car to start.
- "...but it's a time-consuming process that probably shouldn't be undertaken on a machine that you need to "just work" right away."
Translation: Keep a Windows box handy for when you have work to do.
> Hey maybe Roy Schestowitz can put in a good word for him?
> "..... No real interferences on the horizon, but the > volume will be hard to sustain when the undergrads return next week > (Freshers' Week). I need to help getting newcomers connected (my daytime > job).
> Best wishes,
> Roy ""
What kind of pathetic loser would admit in public that their "daytime job" is to fluff incoming freshman? Earth calling Roy.... this is *NOT* a job you fool. If this crap is a "daytime job" then something as sophisticated as a paper-route or a lemonade stand must fall into the category of "carreer."
>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the >> move to Linux?
>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
> The article is an absolute gem!!!
> - "As editor for LinuxInsider for more than a year now, I figured the time > was right to start walking the walk with my personal machine."
> Translation: He sounds like a typical COLA hypocrite. Advocate linux but run > Windows.
> - "Can I use iTunes? Nope, but there are a couple of apps -- such as Amarok > and GTKPod -- that allow you to sync the device. You won't be able to use > the iTunes store, but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you..."
> Translation: "Those grapes are probably sour anyway."
> - "How can I get my wireless networking card to work? My old Dell has a > Broadcom B43 wireless chipset. That's a problem with Ubuntu... It took a > small amount of poking around and searching Ubuntu's knowledge base to find > out what I needed to do.
> Still, that hasn't solved all of my wireless networking issues.... Problem > is, the guy who asked the original question found his connection suddenly > working for no good reason, so the advice doesn't carry through to the point > where we discover what the actual problem is and how to fix it.
> That's the way it is with open source -- tech support is the other users. So > I'll be posting a new question in hopes of finding the answer. I'm just glad > I can hardwire and get Internet access, or the problem would be a lot more > severe.
> Translation: After loads of research and configuration wireless still isn't > working on his laptop.
> - "Is there an automatic backup feature? Or an app available? Not really, > but Ubuntu Forums has a pretty detailed set of instructions on how to > accomplish a full backup through the command line."
> Translation: Gotta love the old command line.
> - "Is there a driver for my printer? Yeah, but that doesn't mean it works > out of the box, like it would with Windows. I'm able to print documents, no > problem. Photos, well, that's another story. Apparently I'm not the only > person with the same issue. Sure, there's a workaround -- there always is -- > but it means I've got to transfer the photo to an SD card, which I then put > directly into the printer."
> Translation: Linux supports lots of printers but only in their most basic > mode. Nice "workaround" by the way - transfer the images to a SD card. > Translation of this is that the linux printer drivers simply can't print an > image.
> - "...so making it work takes some tinkering. That's one of the charms of > Linux: You can tinker with it and learn about it along the way,
> Translation - "Tinkering - That's one of the charms of Linux." Others would > call it high maintenance. While the editor of "Linux Insider" might think > it's fun and charming to tinker all day with his OS other people simply want > a tool to use. To most people this is about as charming as a refridgerator > that you need to fix daily or that charming 1976 AMC Gremlin that you get to > "tinker" with every time you want the car to start.
> - "...but it's a time-consuming process that probably shouldn't be > undertaken on a machine that you need to "just work" right away."
> Translation: Keep a Windows box handy for when you have work to do.
Yea! I had to read the article twice just to make sure i was reading what I thought i was reading.
This is a perfect example of the trials and tribulations not to mention the sacrafices that the average person has to succumb to in order to run Linux.
The kicker is that this guy is an editor of LinuxInsider !!
If he can't make this stuff work with the all the resources he has access to how does the average person even stand a chance?
>> "..... No real interferences on the horizon, but the >> volume will be hard to sustain when the undergrads return next week >> (Freshers' Week). I need to help getting newcomers connected (my daytime >> job).
>> Best wishes,
>> Roy ""
> What kind of pathetic loser would admit in public that their "daytime job" > is to fluff incoming freshman? Earth calling Roy.... this is *NOT* a job you > fool. If this crap is a "daytime job" then something as sophisticated as a > paper-route or a lemonade stand must fall into the category of "carreer."
Further proof, right from the boobs own mouth, that he, Roy Schestowitz is a complete fraud.
If reality were available as a soft drink, I would advise Roy Schestowitz to drink 10 million liters and then maybe, maybe, he might realize what is going on in the real world and how difficult it is going to be for him to fit in. Come to think of it I suppose he has already figured out the latter because he seems to have made the decision to become a life time student at University of Manchester GB.
I suppose he could always move up the ladder and become a team lead fresher fluffer.
-- Moshe Goldfarb Collector of soaps from around the globe. Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
On 2008-08-28, Moshe Goldfarb. <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> - "How can I get my wireless networking card to work? My old Dell has a >> Broadcom B43 wireless chipset. That's a problem with Ubuntu... It took a >> small amount of poking around and searching Ubuntu's knowledge base to find >> out what I needed to do.
>> Still, that hasn't solved all of my wireless networking issues.... Problem >> is, the guy who asked the original question found his connection suddenly >> working for no good reason, so the advice doesn't carry through to the point >> where we discover what the actual problem is and how to fix it.
>> That's the way it is with open source -- tech support is the other users. So >> I'll be posting a new question in hopes of finding the answer. I'm just glad >> I can hardwire and get Internet access, or the problem would be a lot more
My son's laptop has Broadcom B43. It works fine, at least with Gutsy. I will upgrade him to Hardy soon.
> Micoshaft asstroturfing fraudster pounding the sock Moshe Goldfarb > wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft Department of Marketing:
>> .
> I think this more evidence for removing windummies from the workplace > altogether.
> Below are very sound business practices if to get rid of the WINDUMMY osen > and replace it with free software. > Original article by Rex Ballard.
> " > Here are some tactics I've been hearing about from different companies > who are trying to prevent another "forced upgrade" to Vista at the > cost of jobs, poor earnings reports, and loss of productivity.
> Executive Management Approval > Employees who want Vista or Office 2007 have to get approval from > their supervisor, who has to get approval from his supervisor, and so > on up the chain almost to the CEO or COO. If a lower level manager > approves, and doesn't get prior approval from his management, a > substantial charge is assessed to his budget, sufficient to clearly > and negatively affect his bonuses. In effect, any Vista or Office > 2007 he personally approves, comes out of his bonus.
> The point is that most lower level workers are not willing to go > through the hassles of writting a justification sufficient to merit > the approval of a high level executive, and mid-level managers aren't > going to eliminate their chances of promotion or bonuses by bucking > upper management.
> Self Funded Personal Platforms
> The company will provide the PC and Windows 2000, XP, or Linux, but if > the employee feels that he has to have Vista or Office 2007, they have > to purchase it through the corporate procurement system, and the cost > of the software will be deducted from their bunuses or raises.
> Linux bonuses > Company offers bonuses, or adds to annual bonuses based on the > employee's ability to use Linux, with higher bonuses for Linux in > Native mode, slightly less for Virtual Mode, because they have taken > the time to self-train and take responsibility for their own desktop > or laptop environment.
> Annual surcharges. > Rather than just giving every employee a copy of Windows and Office, > the employees department gets charged for the licenses and support > they are using. For example, a call to the help desk for XP issues > would be over $300 per call. A support call for Linux might be as > little as $30 per call. In addition, administrative fees and support > fees for just having XP or Linux are similarly proportionally priced.
> Full Time Reportinng > Time spent dealing with Windows XP or Office issues, ranging from back- > up and restore to reinstallation of software or Windows, has to be > reported separately on a time sheet. If this time is from the 40 hour > work week, it's treated similar to "sick time". If it's done in > ADDITION to the standard 40 hour week, it is considered volunteer > effort, but this gives companies a much better picture of how much > time is spent dealing with Microsoft related issues, and makes a > better case for switching to Linux.
> Extra time spent installing and learning to use Linux ad Open Office > are treated like training, since these are new skills that the company > wants to encourage. Since this training time indicates a willingness > to follow corporate guidelines, Therefore this is a positive when > considering bonuses, raises, and promotions.
> Client Provided software > More consulting firms are now expecting the client to pay for special > software. If the client is using Vista and/or Office 2007 and won't > share documents in a legacy friendly way, the consultant has to > purchase the software through corporate procurement, and expense it to > the client along with travel and other expenses (at full corporate > price). This is because too many clients have been "giving" pirated > copies of Vista and Office 2007 to consultants, and the corporate > licenses ONLY apply to permanent employees of the corporation. The > consulting company is liable to Microsoft for the pirated licenses and > could even face a $10,000 per copy fine for the copyright violation. > In some countries, the penalties for stealing are quite severe, > including the loss of body parts.
> Automated License and software audits
> Most corporations now have the ability to get a comprehensive list of > who has what software, and many are on the lookout for pirated copies > of Vista or Office 2007. If it's not on the inventory as a purchased > license, then it's pirated. Many companies are also asking violators > to come to the data center or customer support depot and have their > laptops re-imaged. Some corporate desktops can automatically be re- > imaged if pirated software is detected.
> There are also some new viruses out that are causing full indexes of > the entire file-system to be generated, and sending the index to some > unknown location on a "trickle" basis. If your laptop is suddenly > runnig very SLOWLY, this might be why.
> Another virus is looking for file-sharing software such as bit- > torrent, if it's found, the virus deletes all mp3 files. It only > impacts Win2K, XP and Vista users.
> Seems like a lot of corporate and hacker forces are starting to make > Windows users really "suffer" for their addiction to Windows. And > attempts to install Vista are pretty much the road to an > "Intervention".
On 2008-08-28, Ezekiel wrote: > - "Can I use iTunes? Nope, but there are a couple of apps -- such as Amarok > and GTKPod -- that allow you to sync the device. You won't be able to use > the iTunes store, but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you..."
> Translation: "Those grapes are probably sour anyway."
What's up with people's obsession with iTunes? It is by far the worst application I ever ran.
> - "Is there an automatic backup feature? Or an app available? Not really, > but Ubuntu Forums has a pretty detailed set of instructions on how to > accomplish a full backup through the command line."
Booted my PC about 1 hour and 15 minutes ago, and I didn't leave the command line yet. In the meantime however I managed to * read up on my emails * read up on the groups I follow * burn three data DVDs * did some reading on wikipedia * logging on to the MSN network
Yes, *all* from the command line.
For back-ups I had to do two hours of research, write a little script, put it in my crontab, and never look back. Updates? Oh, there are being taken care of. Daily.
> - "...so making it work takes some tinkering. That's one of the charms of > Linux: You can tinker with it and learn about it along the way,
> Translation - "Tinkering - That's one of the charms of Linux." Others would > call it high maintenance. While the editor of "Linux Insider" might think > it's fun and charming to tinker all day with his OS other people simply want > a tool to use. To most people this is about as charming as a refridgerator > that you need to fix daily or that charming 1976 AMC Gremlin that you get to > "tinker" with every time you want the car to start.
Ah well, while you are busy posting anti-Linux messages on usenet, I'm actually learning something about computing... To each his own, I guess.
-- Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts. ~ Frank Drebin
> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the > move to Linux?
> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
(Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
On 2008-08-28, TomB <tommy.bongae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-08-28, Ezekiel wrote:
>> - "Can I use iTunes? Nope, but there are a couple of apps -- such as Amarok >> and GTKPod -- that allow you to sync the device. You won't be able to use
You mean sync with an iPod in particular or other devices.
I have no problem keeping my Archos as up to date as I want to.
>> the iTunes store, but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you..."
>> Translation: "Those grapes are probably sour anyway."
> What's up with people's obsession with iTunes? It is by far the worst > application I ever ran.
When you're sitting in a sewer, rotten tomatoes smell like roses.
iTunes is impressive when you come from the mess that is on Windows where simple things like burning a CD require 3rd party applications.
>> - "Is there an automatic backup feature? Or an app available? Not really, >> but Ubuntu Forums has a pretty detailed set of instructions on how to >> accomplish a full backup through the command line."
There are plenty of Unix backup programs available of varying levels of cost and sophistication. Ultimately though it doesn't matter so much because a simple copy operation will do.
> Booted my PC about 1 hour and 15 minutes ago, and I didn't leave the > command line yet. In the meantime however I managed to > * read up on my emails > * read up on the groups I follow > * burn three data DVDs > * did some reading on wikipedia > * logging on to the MSN network
> Yes, *all* from the command line.
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That makes it easy to automate and simplify things.
Having a custom command that is the equivalent of "do this" for common tasks is really quite handy. I can even bind this to an icon if I want to.
Other people also have the option of babysitting a GUI if that's their thing.
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> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make > the move to Linux?
> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
> Maybe there is hope for Roy Schestowitz to find a real job after all.
> You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went > through getting Linux installed.
So I read thru the article. Seeming as you used the word 'nightmare', I expected to read about some totally horrible experience. It didn't read like that to me.
Some problems, but a 'nightmare' ?
I guess it's all relative......like how I laugh heartily when 2 inches of snow falls in North Carolina and anywhere it falls, the entire city/town/county/whatever closes down for an entire (work) week. I guess to them, that is a 'nightmare'. Up here, 2 feet of snow MAY close schools.....for one day, but everything else is business as usual. And the next day, school is back in session and everything is back to the norm.
> You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went > through getting Linux installed.
LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues. Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice - drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks, really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).
Just installed Xubuntu 8.04 today (desktop PC) - took about 1/2 hour, everything Worked Out Of the Box(tm). What joy(*)
(*) Except for this `sudo' crap... what's the problem with `su -' ffs???
LinuxInsider, whoever they are, goes along with the charade, which is a very big giveaway that while they may be insiders, they aren't likely *Linux* insiders.
. . .
"'Call me crazy,' adds Stowell, 'but I somehow think that Pamela Jones isn't just a paralegal with nothing better to do with her life than host a Web site called Groklaw that is dedicated to bashing SCO. I think there is a lot more to her background and intentions than she is willing to reveal publicly. I believe that Big Blue looms large behind Pamela Jones.'"
It is tempting to call him crazy, given the kind invitation, but I think he has no such excuse. And Linux"Insider"? This is yet another Linux"Insider" article giving Stowell a soapbox from which to attack the Linux community, and by the way, nobody at Linux"Insider" bothered to contact me to find out if what they were about to print was true or to give me an opportunity to respond.
-- I trust the first lion he meets will do his duty. -- J. P. Morgan on Teddy Roosevelt's safari
>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the >> move to Linux?
>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
> Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the > publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish > AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid > hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
Hint: Putting "Linux" in your corporate name doesn't mean you know jack about Linux.
Here, it is obvious! The editor himself practically admits he didn't know jack about it.
Hint: Putting "Insider" in your corporate name doesn't mean you really are an "insider".
In the meantime, Zeke and Moshe get to use it as FUD fodder.
Anyway, maybe LinuxInsider is more on-topic these days.
-- It has been said [by Anatole France], "it is not by amusing oneself that one learns," and, in reply: "it is *____ only* by amusing oneself that one can learn." -- Edward Kasner and James R. Newman
>>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to >>> make the move to Linux?
>>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
>> Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection >> between the publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps >> Apple--they publish AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that >> this was just a paid hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how >> it always happens.
>> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
> Hint: Putting "Linux" in your corporate name doesn't mean you know > jack about Linux.
>> You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went >> through getting Linux installed.
> LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a > Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues. > Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice > - drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please > reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks, > really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).
Only Two possibilities:
1. Illicit copy of XP. 2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.
>> LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a >> Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues. >> Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice >> - drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please >> reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks, >> really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).
> Only Two possibilities:
> 1. Illicit copy of XP. > 2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.
> Which?
Could be a bad disk, too.
Or an XP disk with a volume license.
-- "I figured there was this holocaust, right, and the only ones left alive were Donna Reed, Ozzie and Harriet, and the Cleavers." -- Wil Wheaton explains why everyone in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" is so nice
>>> You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went >>> through getting Linux installed.
>> LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a >> Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues. >> Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice - >> drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please >> reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks, >> really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).
> Only Two possibilities:
> 1. Illicit copy of XP.
Vendor's disk
> 2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.
Oh... right... you mean you don't just copy all the stuff off the CD to your hard drive thingy? Gosh, my bad.
Timmy wrote: > Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between > the publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they > publish AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a > paid hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
I might, if I could understand any of that drunken gibberish.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:22:20 -0700, Tim Smith wrote: > In article <1e44nmlyuiti9$.14wq5kto3th3q$....@40tude.net>, > "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the >> move to Linux?
>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
> Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the > publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish > AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid > hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
They are scrambling around in damage control mode already. Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his mother's basement.
-- Moshe Goldfarb Collector of soaps from around the globe. Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
>>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the >>> move to Linux?
>>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
>> Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the >> publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish >> AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid >> hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
>> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
> They are scrambling around in damage control mode already. > Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his > mother's basement.
The general "damage control" used in COLA is to lash out against those who know more than you (even if only in a limited area). That is one of the main reasons Peter Köhlman spews BS about my personal and professional life and lies about me forging PDFs - it is why Tattoo Vampire lies about me calling him and makes up stories about my family and calls me a "hippie" who should find a "real job" [another moron who says teachers do not have real jobs]. It is why *both* of them call people names and mock others.
They are insecure about themselves. They do not like themselves as they are and do not think they can become better. They mock people who acknowledge errors and look for any hole in someone armor where they think they can get a good "dig".
Steve Carroll of, mostly, CSMA was the same way... and he finally had - literally - a mental break down. I do not wish the same for Peter and Tattoo... I sincerely hope they find it in themselves to improve themselves.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:06 -0700, Snit wrote: > "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> stated in post > k1rsy0hec9gb.1jk56j4vh8ny7$....@40tude.net on 8/28/08 6:11 PM:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:22:20 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:
>>> In article <1e44nmlyuiti9$.14wq5kto3th3q$....@40tude.net>, >>> "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the >>>> move to Linux?
>>>> How on earth did this guy even get the job?
>>> Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the >>> publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish >>> AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid >>> hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.
>>> (Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)
>> They are scrambling around in damage control mode already. >> Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his >> mother's basement.
> The general "damage control" used in COLA is to lash out against those who > know more than you (even if only in a limited area). That is one of the > main reasons Peter Köhlman spews BS about my personal and professional life > and lies about me forging PDFs - it is why Tattoo Vampire lies about me > calling him and makes up stories about my family and calls me a "hippie" who > should find a "real job" [another moron who says teachers do not have real > jobs]. It is why *both* of them call people names and mock others.
> They are insecure about themselves. They do not like themselves as they are > and do not think they can become better. They mock people who acknowledge > errors and look for any hole in someone armor where they think they can get > a good "dig".
> Steve Carroll of, mostly, CSMA was the same way... and he finally had - > literally - a mental break down. I do not wish the same for Peter and > Tattoo... I sincerely hope they find it in themselves to improve themselves.
I haven't been following your battles however this is basically true. An example is the FAA thread. I happen to know a very well placed person, and have for many years and as a result I know a lot about how that operation works. And my information, within the limits of the systems I am familiar with via this connection, is right on the money.
This is compared to "press releases" and pure speculation on the part of the Linux loons in this group. I tell it like it is and I don't really give a hoot what the problem was other than to discuss it and possibly offer better solutions.
Another example is the "it works for me" aka CUPS thread where I point out that the Linux loons were squawking about this long before Eric Raymond wrote that scathing article.
They have done it for years and it's simply a lie which came out later when normal people tried doing these various tasks and failed.
Kohlmann of course chimes in with his proof mantra. I offered proof. But then he starts up his little game about the proof not being good enough. Sorry, I don't get sucked into his vortex anymore.
Then of course Linonut has to point out that I posted the same thread link twice as if this means anything. It's proof and there is plenty more.
Google is FULL of Linux nuts claiming the fonts in Linux for example or printers just *work* for them and this is way back years ago and in some cases before they even had antialiasing on fonts and they truly looked jagged and horrible.
For them to lie and try and discredit me with their usual "proof" crap is ludicrous because Linonut and Kohlmann were here when all that stuff was going on and they know full well what was said.
Several of these people here obviously have some kind of mental problem when it comes to being honest about Linux. I fail to understand this but I suspect it arises from being insecure, being locked into jobs where they are using Windows 10 hours a day to earn their living and it having some kind of effect on their psyche.
Look at Schestowitz for example. Is his behavior even remotely normal for a college age young adult who should be building his life?
The list goes on an on.
You can bet your sweet bippy that if it had been the editor of Microsoft World that used Linux they would be squealing with delight. In fact they squeal over the fact that Microsoft has a Linux lab or that Microsoft's 3rd party caching servers run Linux.
In short the majority of comp.os.linux.advocacy's *advocates* are not advocates at all. They are doing far more harm to Linux than they are helping the cause.
Someone on digg put it nicely:
"Roy Schestowitz is to Linux what Pat Robertson is to religion. He scares away more people than he converts".
This is true of many of the COLA Linux loons.
-- Moshe Goldfarb Collector of soaps from around the globe. Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
