[Rival] Ubuntu: brought to you by Microsoft
Robin T Cox
apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
--
Facts are sacred ... but comment is free
Ben
> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>
...
Isn't that legally actionable?
Ezekiel
"Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
news:fDo3m.50895$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
It's amusing watching the Freetards cut off their nose in order to spite
their face.
First the freetards turn against Novell and Suse Linux. Now the freetards
are turning against Ubuntu - the distro which had the best chance of
actually getting some consumer desktop installs.
Every time a distro becomes viable for consumer desktops - the freetards
turn against it. Microsoft ought to be paying you guys for sabotaging
Linux.
Phil Da Lick!
What's the going rate? You dummies should know.
Ben
People are turning against Ubuntu's inclusion of Mono/C# in the default
install, and it's a valid concern for the future usability of the
distro. I also don't see what this thread has to do with the Ubuntu mono
debate. Grow up.
Phil Da Lick!
It has nothing at all to do with the ubuntu debate. If ubuntu gains
traction then good luck to them. Anyone who is concerned about patent
torpedoes can steer clear. The beauty of choice.
DFS
> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the,
> er, well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
Linking Linux to Microsoft is the only that shitware will succeed on the
desktop.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Robin T Cox wrote:
>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
>> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>
>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>
> Isn't that legally actionable?
It's funny as hell:
[-] Microsoft Operating System
Ubuntu 8.04
--
The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the
difference between lightning and the lightning bug.
-- Mark Twain
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Ezekiel wrote:
Zeke is getting as bad as DFS for insane anti-Linux anti-advocate ranting.
It's like he never read all of the posts here /praising/ Ubuntu 9.
--
She is not refined. She is not unrefined. She keeps a parrot.
-- Mark Twain
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Ben wrote:
>
>> People are turning against Ubuntu's inclusion of Mono/C# in the default
>> install, and it's a valid concern for the future usability of the
>> distro. I also don't see what this thread has to do with the Ubuntu mono
>> debate. Grow up.
>
> It has nothing at all to do with the ubuntu debate. If ubuntu gains
> traction then good luck to them. Anyone who is concerned about patent
> torpedoes can steer clear. The beauty of choice.
Canonical is backed by a very rich man. I'm sure their legal positioning is
somewhat different, not only from that of a Linux end-user, but from that of
a conventional business (e.g. Asus) trying to leverage desktop Linux.
Perhaps the Zekester considers Shuttleworth to be a "freetard"?
--
When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know who have gone
to a better world, I am moved to lead a different life.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"
Logan Rathbone
*plonk* ... I'm new to this newsgroup, and although I respect the
opinions of many of the other Linux-haters in here and even *agree* with
them sometimes, I have grepped you and you have contributed nothing,
*nothing* meaningful to the discussions since I subscribed.
Good luck to the others, I hope they can tolerate you better than I can.
ray
> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
I wouldn't fight it. It will probably sell better if it says MS.
ray
'shitware' has already succeeded to some extent on the desktop. It's
called 'vista'.
DFS
I feel your pain, Linux victim.
Andrew Halliwell
>
> "Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:fDo3m.50895$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
>> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>
>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>
> It's amusing watching the Freetards cut off their nose in order to spite
> their face.
>
> First the freetards turn against Novell and Suse Linux. Now the freetards
> are turning against Ubuntu - the distro which had the best chance of
> actually getting some consumer desktop installs.
Who's turning against ubuntu?
And if they are, what has it got to do with this thread?
In which everyone is pointing at dell and laughing at their fuckups and
wondering "should shuttleworth sue for defamation?"
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| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
| Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
| in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
| Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
Hans Lister
Not to mention Linspire and Xandros.
The freetards loathe those distributions.
It's funny watching them self destruct.
Hans Lister
No.
Religious zealot freetards are doing that.
Normal everyday people who are interested in trying Linux don't
give a hoot about religious causes.
You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot.
Hans Lister
How true.
I wonder how much Shuttleworth paid Dell to drop that Microsoft
line on the Ubuntu page so it would hit the search engines.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:07:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
"Shitware". LOL. Taking everything all together, Windows and Linux systems
are far more similar than they are different (though I believe Linux to have
a definite edge in quality factors such as responsiveness).
He's Deranged For Sure.
Does he eat lemons for breakfast? Jeez, what a sourpuss.
--
FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #19
A: To be or not to be.
Q: What is the square root of 4b^2?
William Poaster
of the trolls Chris Ahlstrom was heard to say:
"Zeke the BOZO" *really* doesn't get it, does he. It went *right* over
his head at 20,000+ feet!
--
"The philosophy behind Free, Open Source Software has parallels in several
cultures which practice *ethical* co-operation. Perhaps that's why it
threatens *unethical* business practices which feed on the unknowing."
-- Bassam A. Hassan -- CoFounder of the ILUG.
William Poaster
of the trolls Chris Ahlstrom was heard to say:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Ben belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Robin T Cox wrote:
>>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
>>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the,
>>> er, well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>>
>>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>>
>> Isn't that legally actionable?
>
> It's funny as hell:
>
> [-] Microsoft Operating System
> Ubuntu 8.04
YAYY! Someone else understood it! :-)
William Poaster
of the trolls Chris Ahlstrom was heard to say:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, ray belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:07:53 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Robin T Cox wrote:
>>>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little
>>>> netbook apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space,
>>>> and the, er, well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>>>
>>> Linking Linux to Microsoft is the only that shitware will succeed on
>>> the desktop.
>>
>> 'shitware' has already succeeded to some extent on the desktop. It's
>> called 'vista'.
>
> "Shitware". LOL. Taking everything all together, Windows and Linux
> systems are far more similar than they are different (though I believe
> Linux to have a definite edge in quality factors such as
> responsiveness).
>
> He's Deranged For Sure.
>
> Does he eat lemons for breakfast? Jeez, what a sourpuss.
Considering where DooFu$ talks from, maybe some told him there were
suppositories!
William Poaster
of the trolls Andrew Halliwell was heard to say:
Silence in the court!
Silence in the street!
One of the stupid wintrolls in COLA,
is just about to speak!
> Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
>> news:fDo3m.50895$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
>>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the,
>>> er, well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>>
>>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>>
>> It's amusing watching the Freetards cut off their nose in order to
>> spite their face.
>>
>> First the freetards turn against Novell and Suse Linux. Now the
>> freetards are turning against Ubuntu - the distro which had the best
>> chance of actually getting some consumer desktop installs.
And was replied to, thus:
> Who's turning against ubuntu?
> And if they are, what has it got to do with this thread? In which
> everyone is pointing at dell and laughing at their fuckups and wondering
> "should shuttleworth sue for defamation?"
I thought it was pretty obvious, but not to ol' "Two Beamer Zeke the
BOZO". Who had to have it pedantically explained to him, as one would a
kid.
ray
Well thanks, DooFuS, but I have no pain - and I get plenty of comic
relief at microsoft.public.widows.vista.general.
Don Zeigler
> Good luck to the others, I hope they can tolerate you better than I can.
Most of us plonked the silly son of a bitch a LONG time ago.
Logan Rathbone
Figures! XD
Don Zeigler
> You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot.
Do us a favor and shoot yourself in the head. No, wait, you have no vital
organs in there... n/m
High Plains Thumper
> DFS wrote:
>
>> Linking Linux to Microsoft is the only that shitware will
>> succeed on the desktop.
>
> *plonk* ... I'm new to this newsgroup, and although I respect
> the opinions of many of the other Linux-haters in here and
> even *agree* with them sometimes, I have grepped you and you
> have contributed nothing, *nothing* meaningful to the
> discussions since I subscribed.
>
> Good luck to the others, I hope they can tolerate you better
> than I can.
Your observations accurately reflect the COLA community
sentiment. DFS strongly supports Gary M. Stewart AKA flatfish,
Hans Lister, Moshe Goldfarb, Sandeep Kumar, Singer, Doctor Smith,
Ad Hominem (HPT's Coach), and a slew of other nationalities
including Dutch, nyms include nymthiefs of advocates. Flatfish's
agenda is totally anti-Linux. Best user summation is:
--
HPT
RonB
Yep. If you want real pain, hold a box of Vista to your head and pull
the trigger. It's like playing Russian Roulette with six bullets.
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
High Plains Thumper
> ray wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> I feel your pain, Linux victim.
>>
>> Well thanks, DooFuS, but I have no pain - and I get plenty
>> of comic relief at microsoft.public.widows.vista.general.
>
> Yep. If you want real pain, hold a box of Vista to your head
> and pull the trigger. It's like playing Russian Roulette with
> six bullets.
At least SuSE came with a thick reference manual, to absorb the
bullet. One would wake up feeling fully rested. Actually prior
to the Novell takeover, the manual was very useful, I needed no
other references.
--
HPT
Ben
>
> Perhaps the Zekester considers Shuttleworth to be a "freetard"?
>
I'm gonna *love* this answer...
Ben
It's hard, but you find it humorous after a while.
Ben
You're missing cheap comedy then.
Logan Rathbone
Well, I only plonked him for 30 days - maybe it will be funny again when
he becomes unblocked.
William Poaster
of the trolls High Plains Thumper was heard to say:
I still have one! SuSE Linux Professional 9.2 703 pages.
Ben
He's funny like a flick like "Lesbian vampire killers" is funny.
After half an hour you turn it off and say you'll watch the rest some
other time.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> ray wrote:
Or no bullets -- every shot a mis-fire.
--
You will pioneer the first Martian colony.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Don Zeigler wrote:
Sort of like Bobcat Goldthwait, but not funny, as exemplified by this
anecdote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat_Goldthwait
Robert Francis 'Bobcat' Goldthwait (born May 26, 1962) is an American
comedian, actor, screenwriter, and film and television director. He is
commonly known for his energetic, rabid stage personality, his dark,
acerbic humor, and his gruff but high-pitched voice.
. . .
On one of the final shows of The Arsenio Hall Show, Goldthwait, upset
that the show was coming to an end, stood on the couch of the set and
proceeded to spray-paint "Paramount Sucks" on the glass wall, knock over
some video equipment and throw the cushions of the couch into the
audience as they cheered.
The audience, of course, being the other arsehole trolls.
--
Patch griefs with proverbs.
-- William Shakespeare, "Much Ado About Nothing"
Ad Hominem (HPT's coach)
bericht news:V6ydnbw17L9ZhNPX...@brightview.co.uk...
> Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
>> news:fDo3m.50895$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
>>> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>>
>>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>>
>> their face.
>>
>> First the freetards turn against Novell and Suse Linux. Now the freetards
>> are turning against Ubuntu - the distro which had the best chance of
>> actually getting some consumer desktop installs.
>>
>> turn against it. Microsoft ought to be paying you guys for sabotaging
>> Linux.
>>
>>
>
> What's the going rate? You dummies should know.
Reverse trolls like you, 7, HPT, Dumkopf insist on getting Microsoft shares,
I bet!
William Poaster
of the trolls Ben was heard to say:
One of the DooFu$ clown's first posts:
If it weren't for Windows, you wouldn't be posting anything right now.
"DFS" Message-ID: <10dhshh...@corp.supernews.com>
--
This message was sent from a
computer which is guaranteed
100% free of the M$ Windoze virus.
-- 64bit GNU/Linux systems --
Ad Hominem (HPT's coach)
news:h2lf4d$7og$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Don Zeigler is a liar, he answers on almost every post of so called
"Wintrolls" with his garbage replies!, see below!
--
Tattoo Vampire AKA Don Zeigler, Windows user by day, Linux user, windows
basher by night!
"intelligent" quotes from Don Zeigler AKA Tattoo Vampire "advocating" Linux
in COLA :
[quote]
"Do us a favor and shoot yourself in the head. No, wait, you have no vital
organs in there... n/m"
"Lick the sweat off my balls after a 3-mile run, flatty."
"And why do you even fucking care, you worthless turd?"
"That you're a fucking idiot who should have been aborted long before
birth?"
"Wow - you're a useless idiot. Que surprise!"
"And the asshole Wintrolls hijack yet another thread.Why don't all you
idiots just drop dead?"
"Too bad you're not. Filth like you deserves to drop dead."
"Go fuck yourself, twat."
"It's a tagline, you humorless scrotum."
"There are literally hundreds of them, you sniveling little wretch."
"And you keep right on reading and responding to us, you sad bastard."
"You made a public post in a public forum, so it's everyone's business.Now
fuck off and die."
"In regards to your smartass comment above, go fuck yourself, you snotnosed
twat."
"When's the last time you posted something that wasn't sniveling or whining?
You disgust me."
"Why does it worry you so much, you worthless meatsack?"
"BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You inbred, toothless slapnuts."
"How much does d00FuS pay you to lick his ass, Quack?"
"Leave it to Hadron and his fellow assholes to hijack another thread."
"DFS: Why such a queer?"
"Now crawl back to the Windoze newsgroups where you belong, fuckrod."
"How old are you? 12? You and your butt buddies can go screw yourselves."
"Please die soon. And do it slowly."
"Speaking of hotlines, d00Fus and Mushie have been trying to locate you.
They asked for someone to remind you that in tonight's Wintroll circle jerk,
you're the designated pivot man again."
"Too bad your mother didn't know of uses for a coathanger other than for
hanging up clothes."
"How's the Distro Approval Committee coming along, shitstain?"
"Speaking of fat heads, did d00FuS scream in pain when you finally managed
to free yours from his lower intestine?"
"Do you know what "Hadron is a fuckknob" means?"
"Please, Hadron, try not to be such a useless pimple on the buttocks of
COLA."
"Fuck you, coward. I've posted my real name and location to Usenet on
numerous occasions, and never attempted to hide my identity."
"No fuckup, asshole, I didn't even attempt to hide who it was from."
"You pitiful freak. Die, quickly."
"Get a job, dork."
"You're a lying piece of dung, Snit."
"Take your own advice, buttnugget."
"Answer MY question, Quirk: Why are you such a useless, whining, lying,
cowardly, pitiful excuse for a human being?"
"Why should I be jealous of a ponytailed hippie wannabe who runs a fake
business?"
"Hey, fuck you, asshole. For whatever reason, your URL was redirecting to
prescottcomputer.com, another computer guy in Prescott. Why the hell would I
say it was if it wasn't? Now stick your head back up Flatfish's rectum."
"Lick the sweat off my balls, Quack. I don't give a hoot about any study
that Snit posted and I'm entitled to my opinion. If you don't like my
opinion, then STFU and don't read my posts anymore, you sniveling, sneering,
uncouth, inept, bungling waste of human DNA."
"You and your butt buddies can go screw yourselves."
[/quote]
More to com, the list is endless!
Ad Hominem (HPT's coach)
news:h2lg5l$4r8$1...@news.albasani.net...
................ said High Plains Thumper AKA HPT AKA Rafael AKA George
Hostler AKA Wendy Toiletwater AKA Willy Wong AKA Wang Mycock AKA Anna Banger
AKA Susan McSquatter AKA "???" <�,�@h.com> AKA Doris Gets Her Oates AKA
zyklon_C and many, many, many others.
Hans Lister
Nope.
Shuttleworth made his money by hard work.
Something freetards know little about.
RonB
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:14:24 -0600, above the shrieking, whining & FUDding
> of the trolls High Plains Thumper was heard to say:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel your pain, Linux victim.
>>>> Well thanks, DooFuS, but I have no pain - and I get plenty of comic
>>>> relief at microsoft.public.widows.vista.general.
>>> Yep. If you want real pain, hold a box of Vista to your head and pull
>>> the trigger. It's like playing Russian Roulette with six bullets.
>> At least SuSE came with a thick reference manual, to absorb the bullet.
>> One would wake up feeling fully rested. Actually prior to the Novell
>> takeover, the manual was very useful, I needed no other references.
>
> I still have one! SuSE Linux Professional 9.2 703 pages.
I have version 8 box. From back in the days when you could go to Best
Buy and buy retail versions of Linux.
chrisv
> Logan Rathbone wrote:
>>
>> DumFSck wrote:
>>
>>> Linking Linux to Microsoft is the only that shitware will succeed on
>>> the desktop.
>>
>> *plonk* ... I'm new to this newsgroup, and although I respect the
>> opinions of many of the other Linux-haters in here and even *agree*
>> with them sometimes, I have grepped you and you have contributed
>> nothing, *nothing* meaningful to the discussions since I subscribed.
Good move. DumFSck is as worthless as they come.
>> Good luck to the others, I hope they can tolerate you better than I
>> can.
I plonked that vermin YEARS ago.
chrisv
news:EJqdnYO46v5j_9PX...@giganews.com...
<to the OP>
Ignore the forging nym-shifting troll who pretends to be chrisv!
I have never *PLONKED* anyone in COLA! and certainly not the good advocate
DFS!
chrisv
> "Ben" wrote:
>>
>> Don Zeigler wrote:
>>>
>>> Most of us plonked the silly son of a bitch a LONG time ago.
>>
>> You're missing cheap comedy then.
It figures that you actually enjoy and encourage worthless trolling shits
like DFS, "Ben". Who would have guessed?
> Well, I only plonked him for 30 days - maybe it will be funny again when
> he becomes unblocked.
It won't. It's the *same* nonsense, year in and year out - copy stuff
from help forums into the advocacy group, as "proof" that Linux isn't
perfect, that it's "slopware". Chide the advocates for being so
"foolish" as to believe that Linux is perfect, as if we think anything
of the kind.
RonB
Exactly. And don't forget to mention, that with this copying of help
messages -- most of which get solved -- there is the constant rant about
how "no one knows about or cares about Linux." Apparently no one except
for ranting trolls, who drool on about it 24/7.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:22:50 +0100, above the shrieking, whining & FUDding
> of the trolls Ben was heard to say:
>
>> Don Zeigler wrote:
>>> Logan Rathbone wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good luck to the others, I hope they can tolerate you better than I
>>>> can.
>>>
>>> Most of us plonked the silly son of a bitch a LONG time ago.
>>
>> You're missing cheap comedy then.
>
> One of the DooFu$ clown's first posts:
>
> If it weren't for Windows, you wouldn't be posting anything right now.
> "DFS" Message-ID: <10dhshh...@corp.supernews.com>
Yes, that is a real laffer, destined to be famous in COLA lore, unless
"waxing my Beamer" beats it.
--
Writing is easy; all you do is sit staring at the blank sheet of paper until
drops of blood form on your forehead.
-- Gene Fowler
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Logan Rathbone wrote:
I think Linux is perfect -- for me.
Let me put it this way. I spend far less time in frustrating waits for
Linux to respond, than for Windows (XP/2000/2003) to respond. Even though I
spend /far/ less time on Windows.
--
In the first place, God made idiots; this was for practice; then he made
school boards.
-- Mark Twain
Don Zeigler
> Don
You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P
RonB
> I think Linux is perfect -- for me.
>
> Let me put it this way. I spend far less time in frustrating waits for
> Linux to respond, than for Windows (XP/2000/2003) to respond. Even though I
> spend /far/ less time on Windows.
I set up a computer for a lady at church. She needed something for email
and writing and I had some Pentium IIIs lying around. I thought about
installing Linux, but she specifically wished for Word, as that's what
she was used to, at work.
The most frustrating thing for me -- since I hardly work with Windows
anymore -- was the wait between the time Windows *looks* like it's ready
to go, and the time where you can actually do something. I'm not sure if
Linux loads faster (I'm pretty sure it does, but not sure) -- but at the
very least, when Linux comes up to the Desktop, it is ready to use
IMMEDIATELY. Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the
drivers, etc., *before* showing the Desktop?
I'm very, very happy I don't use Windows anymore. My only frustration is
that I have to support others' Windows addiction.
Speaking of which -- my wife's computer is still dropping back to the
"hal" error about twice a week. I'm guessing it has something to do with
the Dell recovery partition, but not positive. You look it up on Google
and there's a whole software industry just for Windows registry repair.
chrisv
> <to the OP>
Ignore the forger.
Nigel Feltham
> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>
> --
> Facts are sacred ... but comment is free
I also notice that for both configuration sections (Ubuntu or XP) the site
shows the OS is included in the price yet if you specify identical hardware
(which means adding �40 to the linux machine to change hard drive to the
160gb unit fitted to the XP machine - all other specs are already
identical) then the XP machine still costs �10 more than the Ubuntu one.
I notice the customise section for the ubuntu machine has 'Move to XP
version' on the OS page yet the XP version lacks the 'Move to Ubuntu'
option - a little biased there. I also see Dell recommends Windows Vista
Home Premium on all the pages for these machines yet none of them are
available with it pre-installed, don't Dell really believe in what they
recommend to their customers then.
I also notice the Ubuntu machine has a choice of hard drive sizes - 8gb or
16gb solid state or either 120gb or 160gb SATA (pointless as both 120gb and
160gb add �40 to the price - as does 16gb solid state so who'd choose the
120gb option) yet the XP machine is only available with 160gb SATA, a sign
that DELL realises Windows is bloatware perhaps.
Quite why neither version are available with external optical drive is a bit
of a mystery - surely DELL are missing a bit of profit there - they also
give buyers of either machine an offer to buy extra software and it's all
Windows software supplied on either CD or DVD so unlikely to be of use to
the Ubuntu buyers and unusable on the XP machine too unless Dell
Pre-install it (without being sold a DVD drive buyers can't load the
install discs - not much good if it's your only PC) and curious to know how
they pre-install Windows Apps on the Ubuntu version.
Both versions also give buyers the option pay extra for PC online training -
however quite how useful Visto Home Premium Training is for buyers of
either machine is debatable.
Can't help wondering if anyone at DELL really understands what they're
selling - whichever netbook you choose you're offered extras to buy that
are totally useless to you.
William Poaster
of the trolls Don Zeigler was heard to say:
> Ad Hominem (HPT's coach) wrote:
>
>> Don
>
> You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P
But horribly! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!
Hans Lister
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> I think Linux is perfect -- for me.
>>
>> Let me put it this way. I spend far less time in frustrating waits for
>> Linux to respond, than for Windows (XP/2000/2003) to respond. Even though I
>> spend /far/ less time on Windows.
>
> I set up a computer for a lady at church. She needed something for email
> and writing and I had some Pentium IIIs lying around. I thought about
> installing Linux, but she specifically wished for Word, as that's what
> she was used to, at work.
That's a good use for Linux.
> The most frustrating thing for me -- since I hardly work with Windows
> anymore -- was the wait between the time Windows *looks* like it's ready
> to go, and the time where you can actually do something. I'm not sure if
> Linux loads faster (I'm pretty sure it does, but not sure) -- but at the
> very least, when Linux comes up to the Desktop, it is ready to use
> IMMEDIATELY. Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the
> drivers, etc., *before* showing the Desktop?
I don't have that problem at all.
Sounds like you are low on RAM.
Windows performs poorly in that case and will act very slow.
Going from 512mb to 1G makes a huge difference.
Sinister Midget III
> The most frustrating thing for me -- since I hardly work with Windows
> anymore -- was the wait between the time Windows *looks* like it's ready
> to go, and the time where you can actually do something. I'm not sure if
> Linux loads faster (I'm pretty sure it does, but not sure) -- but at the
> very least, when Linux comes up to the Desktop, it is ready to use
> IMMEDIATELY. Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the
> drivers, etc., *before* showing the Desktop?
Because doing that would make it obvious that Windross takes forever to
boot. The way it is now a lot of Windummies fall for the smoke and
mirrors version of events, believing it boots up in mere seconds.
Proof once more that you *can* fool some of the people all of the time.
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Hans Lister
> On 2009-07-03, RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> claimed:
>
>> The most frustrating thing for me -- since I hardly work with Windows
>> anymore -- was the wait between the time Windows *looks* like it's ready
>> to go, and the time where you can actually do something. I'm not sure if
>> Linux loads faster (I'm pretty sure it does, but not sure) -- but at the
>> very least, when Linux comes up to the Desktop, it is ready to use
>> IMMEDIATELY. Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the
>> drivers, etc., *before* showing the Desktop?
>
> Because doing that would make it obvious that Windross takes forever to
> boot. The way it is now a lot of Windummies fall for the smoke and
> mirrors version of events, believing it boots up in mere seconds.
>
> Proof once more that you *can* fool some of the people all of the time.
So how do you explain that it has fooled 90 percent of the
people and Linux, while free, still can't bust the 1 percent
desktop number?
RonB
> On 2009-07-03, RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> claimed:
>
>> The most frustrating thing for me -- since I hardly work with Windows
>> anymore -- was the wait between the time Windows *looks* like it's ready
>> to go, and the time where you can actually do something. I'm not sure if
>> Linux loads faster (I'm pretty sure it does, but not sure) -- but at the
>> very least, when Linux comes up to the Desktop, it is ready to use
>> IMMEDIATELY. Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the
>> drivers, etc., *before* showing the Desktop?
>
> Because doing that would make it obvious that Windross takes forever to
> boot. The way it is now a lot of Windummies fall for the smoke and
> mirrors version of events, believing it boots up in mere seconds.
>
> Proof once more that you *can* fool some of the people all of the time.
You're probably right. The more I have to fix Windows machines, the more
I like Linux.
Ben
> Logan Rathbone wrote:
>
>> "Ben" wrote:
>>> Don Zeigler wrote:
>>>> Most of us plonked the silly son of a bitch a LONG time ago.
>>> You're missing cheap comedy then.
>
> It figures that you actually enjoy and encourage worthless trolling shits
> like DFS, "Ben". Who would have guessed?
I did say "cheap comedy". Even DFS has his limits on bearability.
>
>> Well, I only plonked him for 30 days - maybe it will be funny again when
>> he becomes unblocked.
>
> It won't. It's the *same* nonsense, year in and year out - copy stuff
> from help forums into the advocacy group, as "proof" that Linux isn't
> perfect, that it's "slopware". Chide the advocates for being so
> "foolish" as to believe that Linux is perfect, as if we think anything
> of the kind.
I know. He needs to get a life and stop using the Ubuntu forums just to
find examples of why he thinks Linux is "slopware" and "crapware".
Then again, I'm replying to the person who plonked me for making a point
about how inane it is to wonder if Billy Mays used Linux.
Andrew Halliwell
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:15:22 -0400, above the shrieking, whining & FUDding
> of the trolls Don Zeigler was heard to say:
>
>> Ad Hominem (HPT's coach) wrote:
>>
>>> Don
>>
>> You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P
>
> But horribly! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!
>
I think slow and painful is more satisfying than quick and horrible...
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Andrew Halliwell
> One of the DooFu$ clown's first posts:
>
> If it weren't for Windows, you wouldn't be posting anything right now.
> "DFS" Message-ID: <10dhshh...@corp.supernews.com>
Naaaaaah, he'd been here a while before that gem plopped out of his arse.
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Ben
> William Poaster <w...@jaunty904-64bit.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:15:22 -0400, above the shrieking, whining & FUDding
>> of the trolls Don Zeigler was heard to say:
>>
>>> Ad Hominem (HPT's coach) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don
>>> You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P
>> But horribly! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!
>>
>
> I think slow and painful is more satisfying than quick and horrible...
Slow and painful death is waiting for Windows to load something, or
become responsive.
Ben
> William Poaster <w...@jaunty904-64bit.org> wrote:
>> One of the DooFu$ clown's first posts:
>>
>> If it weren't for Windows, you wouldn't be posting anything right now.
>> "DFS" Message-ID: <10dhshh...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> Naaaaaah, he'd been here a while before that gem plopped out of his arse.
A gem, nevertheless.
Abeel van der Kloothuysen
news:1at3osqhm9tn4$.dlg@this.domain.or.that...
> Ad Hominem (Don Zeiglers and HPT's coach) wrote:
>
>> Don
>
> You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P
More proof that Don Zeigler never plonked anyone and sends garbage on
Usenet!
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basher by night!
"intelligent" quotes from Don Zeigler AKA Tattoo Vampire "advocating" Linux
in COLA :
[quote]
"You pitiful freak. Die, quickly. :-P "
"You pitiful freak. Die, quickly."
"Get a job, dork."
"You're a lying piece of dung, Snit."
"Take your own advice, buttnugget."
"Answer MY question, Quirk: Why are you such a useless, whining, lying,
cowardly, pitiful excuse for a human being?"
"Why should I be jealous of a ponytailed hippie wannabe who runs a fake
business?"
"Hey, fuck you, asshole. For whatever reason, your URL was redirecting to
prescottcomputer.com, another computer guy in Prescott. Why the hell would I
say it was if it wasn't? Now stick your head back up Flatfish's rectum."
"Lick the sweat off my balls, Quack. I don't give a hoot about any study
that Snit posted and I'm entitled to my opinion. If you don't like my
opinion, then STFU and don't read my posts anymore, you sniveling, sneering,
uncouth, inept, bungling waste of human DNA."
"You and your butt buddies can go screw yourselves."
[/quote]
More to com, the list is endless!
Someone should report this to his boss:
LeeAnn.Murra...@ERA.com
chrisv
news:Q_GdnQJiNotM5NPX...@giganews.com...
> some idiot forging chrisv wrote:
>
>> <to the OP>
>
> Ignore the forger.
>
*PLONK*
JEDIDIAH
> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:40:38 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "Robin T Cox" <nom...@nomail.net> wrote in message
>> news:fDo3m.50895$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> ...or at least so says Dell on their website. This neat little netbook
>>> apparently comes with a 1.6GHz Atom CPU, 8GB of disk space, and the, er,
>>> well-known Microsoft operating system Ubuntu 8.04.
>>>
>>> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-brought-you-microsoft
>>
>> their face.
>>
>> First the freetards turn against Novell and Suse Linux. Now the freetards
>> are turning against Ubuntu - the distro which had the best chance of
>> actually getting some consumer desktop installs.
>>
>> Every time a distro becomes viable for consumer desktops - the freetards
>> turn against it. Microsoft ought to be paying you guys for sabotaging
>> Linux.
>
> Not to mention Linspire and Xandros.
> The freetards loathe those distributions.
>
> It's funny watching them self destruct.
Pretty much EVERYONE has always been indifferent to Linspire and Xandros.
They just didn't capture anyone's imagination.
Unlike Lemmings and Cheerleaders, we actually want to know what the shiny
and new thing is going to do for us. We feel the same way about mono.
Really, beyond all of the patent red herring nonsense the real question is
"why bother?". Just what does it get anyone?
qt has something going for it.
opengl has something going for it.
even vfat has something going for it.
mono? So what...
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Homer
> Why can't Microsoft have the good sense to load the drivers, etc.,
> *before* showing the Desktop?
This is a deliberate design decision, introduced with Win98 IIRC, with
the specific goal of giving the false impression that Windows boots
faster than it really does.
GNU/Linux does it the other way round ... it loads all the services etc.
/before/ launching the desktop GUI. That's a more honest and useful
approach. Also the specific /order/ in which services are launched can
be controlled, unlike with Windows - where the net result is a mess of
applications and other services waiting for other services they depend
on, and often hanging or even crashing as a result.
I remember, for example, that it used to be a crapshoot which, if any,
taskbar applets would show up correctly each time I booted XP.
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