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Hadron

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10870361

"Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
Microsoft founder Bill Gates."

What an evil bastard.

I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
millions away.

It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
Creepy present this to the COLA minions.

Tattoo Vampire

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Hadron wrote:

> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>
> What an evil bastard.
>
> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
> millions away.
>
> It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
> Creepy present this to the COLA minions.

Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still engage in
questionable business practices.

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Hadron

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Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
>> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
>> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>
>> What an evil bastard.
>>
>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
>> millions away.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
>> Creepy present this to the COLA minions.
>
> Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still engage in
> questionable business practices.

I fully agree its possibly.

However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
etc.

Tattoo Vampire

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Hadron wrote:

> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
> is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
> not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
> etc.

I don't know about all that since I never read any of it. I will give Gates
credit for the charitable work he has done and the huge amount of money he
has given away to various causes.

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Hadron

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Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
>> is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
>> not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
>> etc.
>
> I don't know about all that since I never read any of it. I will give Gates
> credit for the charitable work he has done and the huge amount of money he
> has given away to various causes.

Hmm .. I feel like I am being trolled ... but just in case NOT ... good
to hear ...

Tattoo Vampire

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Hadron wrote:

> Hmm .. I feel like I am being trolled ... but just in case NOT ... good
> to hear ...

For once, no. ;-)

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TomB

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2010. 8. 4. 오후 7:28:2910. 8. 4.
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On 2010-08-04, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:

Why would he be trolling you? I too think that Bill Gates deserves
credit for his generous contributions to charity.

My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the he'd
burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I think the
prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the arse for all
the BSD code he stole, must have frightened the shit out of him.

Hence, Bill Gates turned to charity to regain the favour of his Maker
(who runs his business on Windows no doubt - each time it crashes
something bad happens on the planet - but has a Mac for his personal
computing needs.

(hell of course runs on GNU/Linux and *BSD - explaining the stable
stream of evilness in this world)

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2010. 8. 4. 오후 7:46:2410. 8. 4.
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TomB wrote:

> Why would he be trolling you?

Because I do it often? :-D
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Hadron

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TomB <tommy.b...@gmail.com> writes:

> On 2010-08-04, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>> Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> writes:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed
>>>> Gates is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I
>>>> kid you not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for
>>>> lung cancer etc etc.
>>>
>>> I don't know about all that since I never read any of it. I will
>>> give Gates credit for the charitable work he has done and the huge
>>> amount of money he has given away to various causes.
>>
>> Hmm .. I feel like I am being trolled ... but just in case NOT ...
>> good to hear ...
>
> Why would he be trolling you? I too think that Bill Gates deserves
> credit for his generous contributions to charity.


Sometimes I wonder just how many "advocate" posts you read.

DFS

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On 8/4/2010 7:28 PM, TomB wrote:

> My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the he'd
> burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I think the
> prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the arse for all
> the BSD code he stole,


Can you actually steal what's being given away?

whoops... silly me... of course you can... I forgot I'm in Linux bizarro
land, where brainlessness, hypocrisy and anti-MS hatred rule.

TomB

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2010. 8. 4. 오후 8:13:1510. 8. 4.
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On 2010-08-05, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:

> On 8/4/2010 7:28 PM, TomB wrote:
>
>> My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the
>> he'd burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I
>> think the prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the
>> arse for all the BSD code he stole,
>
>
> Can you actually steal what's being given away?

Everything is possible in Linux bizarro land, where brainlessness,


hypocrisy and anti-MS hatred rule.

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DFS

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Aye!


Chris Ahlstrom

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Tattoo Vampire posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
>> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
>> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>
>> What an evil bastard.
>>
>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
>> millions away.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
>> Creepy present this to the COLA minions.
>
> Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still engage in
> questionable business practices.

In fact, it is quite common for rich men with ill-gotten gains to

1. Donate money to cut their taxes;
2. Donate money to assuage their latent guilt over ill-gotten gains;
3. Donate money to improve their public image.

And "Hadron" thinks that the tax savings Gates gets is 1e02 / 1e06 or
1e-02 percent?

Side notes:

Our resident wackjob troll, "Hadron", crams at least 5 troll buzzwords
into a single sentence.

Who is this "Creepy", anyway? If I were to guess, I would peg "Hadron",
DFS, or that Nomen Nescio guy who posts my spouse's work information.

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2010. 8. 4. 오후 9:57:1810. 8. 4.
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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:

> Tattoo Vampire posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
>>> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
>>> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>>
>>> What an evil bastard.
>>>
>>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
>>> millions away.
>>>
>>> It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
>>> Creepy present this to the COLA minions.
>>
>> Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still engage in
>> questionable business practices.
>
> In fact, it is quite common for rich men with ill-gotten gains to

Yes we know ....

>
> 1. Donate money to cut their taxes;
> 2. Donate money to assuage their latent guilt over ill-gotten gains;
> 3. Donate money to improve their public image.

It's also common in COLA for bitter little twits to show off about how
much they earn from MS SW.

>
> And "Hadron" thinks that the tax savings Gates gets is 1e02 / 1e06 or
> 1e-02 percent?

No Hadron doesn't.

>
> Side notes:
>
> Our resident wackjob troll, "Hadron", crams at least 5 troll buzzwords
> into a single sentence.
>
> Who is this "Creepy", anyway? If I were to guess, I would peg "Hadron",
> DFS, or that Nomen Nescio guy who posts my spouse's work information.

It's you. Creepy Chris. The resident suck up. As you are doing now.

You see you could have just said "fair play to the man". But no. In your
rush to suck up and appease the more lunatic fringe you couldnt do
that. No you have to paste weenie little whines about what businessmen
may or may not do.

The man is giving his money away. He was not a gangster you know. he
built the largest company in the world. He made the PC popular. He made a
system which generates YOUR income. Who are you? Who am I? Pretty much
nothing in comparison.

But all that is by the by : he has also convinced others to do the same
- ie give their fortunes (or 50% or so of it) AWAY to LESS FORTUNATE
people.

God forbid you would grow a back bone and actually say "fair play Bill":
You're probably too terrified Roy and Willy won't chuck you a doggy drop
any more.

Chris Ahlstrom

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Tattoo Vampire posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> Hadron wrote:


>
>> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
>> is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
>> not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
>> etc.
>
> I don't know about all that since I never read any of it. I will give Gates
> credit for the charitable work he has done and the huge amount of money he
> has given away to various causes.

For a long time, though, Gates was chastised in the media for the paucity of
his charity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

Philanthropy

Gates began to realize the expectations others had of him when public
opinion mounted that he could give more of his wealth to charity.

Then

Gates studied the work of Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller and in
1994 sold some of his Microsoft stock to create the William H. Gates
Foundation. In 2000, Gates and his wife combined three family foundations
into one to create the charitable Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which
is the largest transparently operated charitable foundation in the
world.[61] The foundation is set up to allow benefactors access to how
its money is being spent, unlike other major charitable organizations
such as the Wellcome Trust.[62][63] The generosity and extensive
philanthropy of David Rockefeller has been credited as a major influence.
Gates and his father have met with Rockefeller several times and have
modeled their giving in part on the Rockefeller family's philanthropic
focus, namely those global problems that are ignored by governments and
other organizations.[64] As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the
second most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28
billion to charity.[

Personally, I give Gates some credit for stripping a lot of income out
of people by selling software, then giving a lot of it back once he was
in a perfectly comfortable situation.

http://books.google.com/books?id=YCnZoTIVMXYC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=%22I+have+an+infinite+amount+of+money%22+%2Bgates&source=bl&ots=zne9nqeoZO&sig=7kEuzTAEw-vrxkyq5IHfLkTzbEQ&hl=en&ei=2RlaTLzYDIP-8AbY0omcCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22I%20have%20an%20infinite%20amount%20of%20money%22%20%2Bgates&f=false

"I have an infinite amount of money."

Yet, at the same time, Gates has shown a lack of concern about money and
about certain forms of ostenation.

In some ways, he is admirable. In other ways, a robber baron.

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Hadron

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2010. 8. 4. 오후 10:00:0810. 8. 4.
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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:

> Tattoo Vampire posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
>>> is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
>>> not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
>>> etc.
>>
>> I don't know about all that since I never read any of it. I will give Gates
>> credit for the charitable work he has done and the huge amount of money he
>> has given away to various causes.
>
> For a long time, though, Gates was chastised in the media for the paucity of
> his charity.

You mean when he was building his business and making plans etc.

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates
>
> Philanthropy
>
> Gates began to realize the expectations others had of him when public
> opinion mounted that he could give more of his wealth to charity.

Not all people are tuned into the outside world Liarmutt. You certainly
dont appear to be.

>
> Then
>
> Gates studied the work of Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller and in
> 1994 sold some of his Microsoft stock to create the William H. Gates
> Foundation. In 2000, Gates and his wife combined three family foundations
> into one to create the charitable Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which
> is the largest transparently operated charitable foundation in the
> world.[61] The foundation is set up to allow benefactors access to how
> its money is being spent, unlike other major charitable organizations
> such as the Wellcome Trust.[62][63] The generosity and extensive
> philanthropy of David Rockefeller has been credited as a major influence.
> Gates and his father have met with Rockefeller several times and have
> modeled their giving in part on the Rockefeller family's philanthropic
> focus, namely those global problems that are ignored by governments and
> other organizations.[64] As of 2007, Bill and Melinda Gates were the
> second most generous philanthropists in America, having given over $28
> billion to charity.[
>
> Personally, I give Gates some credit for stripping a lot of income out
> of people by selling software, then giving a lot of it back once he was
> in a perfectly comfortable situation.


My god, you're a total dick.

You couldn't be gracious and say "well done". Oh no. He is only giving
back money he "stripped" from people for selling people according to
you.

Tell me, when are YOU going to give the money back you "strip" from
people who BUY your SW?

We won't hold our breath ....

Chris Ahlstrom

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TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

DFS has it backwards (as usual). First Gates stole the money (violating
non-disclosure agreements, thieving patented material, wielding the
whip hand when he could, and other actions documented partially at
http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005010107100653
"Microsoft litigation"), *then*, after he was extremely well off ("I
have an infinite supply of money"), he gave away some portion of his
largesse.

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Homer

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[Subject corrected]

Verily I say unto thee, that Tattoo Vampire spake thusly:


> Hadron wrote:
>
>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their
>> wealth to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren
>> Buffett and Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>
>> What an evil bastard.

Yes, he is.

>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these
>> billions and millions away.

[quote]
From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more than $26
billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less than 8.3
percent of the contributions they made over that time.
[/quote]

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-foundation.aspx

Assuming "less than 8.3" means 8.25xxx, I'll be generous and round the
figure down to 8.2%.

( 8.2 / 100 ) * 26,000,000,000 = 2,132,000,000 or ~2.1 Billion USD.

That was up to 2006.

Also note the wording carefully: "Those donations resulted in a tax
savings". IOW there's no explicit correlation between the true source of
these "donations" and the accounts benefiting from the tax break. "We
donated" can mean anything from "our private bank accounts" to "shell
accounts" or even "money laundered though business accounts". The Gates
Foundation is well known for it's unethical investments.

[quote]
Just How British Is BP?
By JOHN COLLINS RUDOLF

In a story in The Times on Sunday, our colleague Sheryl Gay Stolberg
wrote of growing displeasure in Britain over the use of the name
“British Petroleum” by top federal officials in the United States in
referring to the party responsible for the gulf spill. The company
officially changed its name to BP several years ago, and to some on the
other side of the pond, invoking the old name is a backhanded slap at
Britain and even a threat to the “special relationship” our two nations
share.

With tens of thousands of barrels of oil still gushing into the gulf
every day, quibbling over a name might seem petty. Nevertheless, it does
seem fair to note that BP is not exactly a foreign corporation running
roughshod over American soil. As Fraser Nelson, a columnist for The
Spectator, pointed out late last week, 39 percent of the company is
owned by American shareholders and six Americans – half the total – sit
on its board of directors.

...

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is another a major investor, with
nearly 43 million shares.
[/quote]

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/just-how-british-is-bp/

>> It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their
>> shill Creepy present this to the COLA minions.

I hope you're sufficiently "interested" now.

> Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still
> engage in questionable business practices.

Or even be a "humanitarian" *in order to* engage in questionable
business practices. Like this, for example:

[quote]
Ending Africa's Hunger? Gates Foundation & Monsanto

These are valuable efforts, but one might pause to ask why the need for
such philanthropic intervention arose in the first place. The faltering
quality of African agricultural research institutions, and the decline
in government spending on agriculture, is a result of the budget
austerity imposed by international financial institutions, such as the
World Bank, in the 1980s and '90s. As Filipino scholar-activist Walden
Bello has noted, Africa exported 1.3 million tons of food a year in the
1960s, but after being subject to international development loans and
free-market fundamentalism, today it imports nearly 25 percent of its
food. In a 2008 report, the Bank's internal evaluations group lambasted
the policies that led to this situation. What the Gates Foundation is
doing is using its private money to fund activities that once were in
the public domain and were, albeit imperfectly, under democratic control.

The preference for private sector contributions to agriculture shapes
the Gates Foundation's funding priorities. In a number of grants, for
instance, one corporation appears repeatedly--Monsanto. To some extent,
this simply reflects Monsanto's domination of industrial agricultural
research. There are, however, notable synergies between Gates and
Monsanto: both are corporate titans that have made millions through
technology, in particular through the aggressive defense of proprietary
intellectual property. Both organizations are suffused by a culture of
expertise, and there's some overlap between them. Robert Horsch, a
former senior vice president at Monsanto, is, for instance, now interim
director of Gates's agricultural development program and head of the
science and technology team. Travis English and Paige Miller,
researchers with the Seattle-based Community Alliance for Global
Justice, have uncovered some striking trends in Gates Foundation
funding. By following the money, English told us that "AGRA used funds
from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to write twenty-three grants
for projects in Kenya. Twelve of those recipients are involved in
research in genetically modified agriculture, development or advocacy.
About 79 percent of funding in Kenya involves biotech in one way or
another." And, English says, "so far, we have found over $100 million in
grants to organizations connected to Monsanto."

This isn't surprising in light of the fact that Monsanto and Gates both
embrace a model of agriculture that sees farmers suffering a deficit of
knowledge--in which seeds, like little tiny beads of software, can be
programmed to transmit that knowledge for commercial purposes. This
assumes that Green Revolution technologies--including those that
substitute for farmers' knowledge--are not only desirable but neutral.
Knowledge is never neutral, however: it inevitably carries and
influences relations of power.
[/quote]

http://current.com/news/91070994_ending-africas-hunger-gates-foundation-monsanto.htm

Here's a more detailed analysis:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

Bill Gates advocating eugenics (elitism through genocide):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064

AFAICT the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is nothing but a corporatist
front for Big Pharma, agri-patents, eugenics, and unethical businesses'
tax breaks and money laundering.

--
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Homer

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Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:

> "I have an infinite amount of money."
>
> Yet, at the same time, Gates has shown a lack of concern about money
> and about certain forms of ostenation.

I'm sure it's easy for him to not care about money when he has "an
infinite amount" of it.

> In some ways, he is admirable.

Sorry, but I don't see furthering the causes of agri-patents and
eugenics under the guise of philanthropy as admirable.

> In other ways, a robber baron.

In the way that he's alive and breathing, yes.

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High Plains Thumper

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2010. 8. 5. 오전 3:04:2910. 8. 5.
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Homer wrote:
> Tattoo Vampire spake thusly:
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their
>>> wealth to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren
>>> Buffett and Microsoft founder Bill Gates." What an evil bastard.
>
> Yes, he is.
>
>>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these
>>> billions and millions away.
>
> [quote] From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more
> than $26 billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less
> than 8.3 percent of the contributions they made over that time.
> [/quote]
>
> http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-foundation.aspx
>
> Assuming "less than 8.3" means 8.25xxx, I'll be generous and round
> the figure down to 8.2%.
>
> ( 8.2 / 100 ) * 26,000,000,000 = 2,132,000,000 or ~2.1 Billion USD.
>
> That was up to 2006.
>
> Also note the wording carefully: "Those donations resulted in a tax
> savings". IOW there's no explicit correlation between the true source
> of these "donations" and the accounts benefiting from the tax break.
> "We donated" can mean anything from "our private bank accounts" to
> "shell accounts" or even "money laundered though business accounts".
> The Gates Foundation is well known for it's unethical investments.

For an organisation that supposes humanitarian reasons, it does seem odd
they would fund newspaper acquisitions:

[quote]
Bill Gates 'Charity' Foundation Finances Newspaper Purchases
Drudge Report | August 20, 2006

The BILL & MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION declares its noble mission is to
bring "innovations in health and learning to the global community."

But the world's largest philanthropic organization also is among the
organizations that collectively loaned nearly $400 million to MEDIANEWS
GROUP INC. -- for the acquisition of newspapers in California and Minnesota!
[/quote]

http://jonesreport.com/articles/200806_gates_foundation_newspapers.html

Cabal makes a profound statement in a video scene in the game Command
and Conquer - Tiberian Sun, "Control the media, control the mind."

It does seem odd that philanthropy would go towards the acquisition of
newspaper companies, and for what charitable purpose?

--
HPT

Phil Da Lick!

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On 05/08/2010 03:02, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-05, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/4/2010 7:28 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>
>>>> My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the
>>>> he'd burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I
>>>> think the prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the
>>>> arse for all the BSD code he stole,
>>>
>>> Can you actually steal what's being given away?
>>
>> Everything is possible in Linux bizarro land, where brainlessness,
>> hypocrisy and anti-MS hatred rule.
>
> DFS has it backwards (as usual). First Gates stole the money (violating
> non-disclosure agreements, thieving patented material, wielding the
> whip hand when he could, and other actions documented partially at
> http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2005010107100653

That's the unsavoury bit.


> "Microsoft litigation"), *then*, after he was extremely well off ("I
> have an infinite supply of money"), he gave away some portion of his
> largesse.

Well, I'm adopting a "wait and see" approach to this. Gates has already
pledged the vast majority of his wealth to charity on his demise. To me
it's all about how it's done. If the recipients of this largesse in the
third world have to "give something back" in return, ie favourable
trading terms/treaties with the US then it'll leave a sour taste. If
however there's no strings attached then good on them, all of them.

Hadron

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Homer <use...@slated.org> writes:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>
>> "I have an infinite amount of money."
>>
>> Yet, at the same time, Gates has shown a lack of concern about money
>> and about certain forms of ostenation.
>
> I'm sure it's easy for him to not care about money when he has "an
> infinite amount" of it.

LOL. Can you taste those sour grapes. Hey dickhead : yes, when you have
a lot of something you do tend not to worry about it so much. It's
called success.

>
>> In some ways, he is admirable.
>
> Sorry, but I don't see furthering the causes of agri-patents and
> eugenics under the guise of philanthropy as admirable.

Of course you dont. You're a moron.

>
>> In other ways, a robber baron.

Creepy Chris excels again in an orgy of sucking up and rubbing himself
up against the advocates backsides. Disgusting.

>
> In the way that he's alive and breathing, yes

More veiled threats of violence. Incredible.

Hadron

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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:

> TomB posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-05, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> On 8/4/2010 7:28 PM, TomB wrote:
>>>
>>>> My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the
>>>> he'd burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I
>>>> think the prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the
>>>> arse for all the BSD code he stole,
>>>
>>> Can you actually steal what's being given away?
>>
>> Everything is possible in Linux bizarro land, where brainlessness,
>> hypocrisy and anti-MS hatred rule.
>
> DFS has it backwards (as usual). First Gates stole the money

You really are a sad little man.

Hadron

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Homer <use...@slated.org> writes:


You're insane.

Chris Ahlstrom

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Homer posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> [Subject corrected]


>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their
>>> wealth to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren
>>> Buffett and Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>

>>> I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these
>>> billions and millions away.
>
> [quote]
> From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more than $26
> billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less than 8.3
> percent of the contributions they made over that time.
> [/quote]
>
> http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-foundation.aspx

Swatting the insane Quark troll with an aircraft carrier, I see.

--
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What's in your eye when you have a bee in your hand.

Hadron

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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:


Try reading the details you creepy little suck up.

chrisv

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TomB wrote:

>My theory is that an Angel came to Mr. Gates with the message the he'd
>burn in hell for eternity if he didn't better his ways. I think the
>prospect of the BSD Daemon eternally poking him in the arse for all
>the BSD code he stole, must have frightened the shit out of him.
>
>Hence, Bill Gates turned to charity to regain the favour of his Maker
>(who runs his business on Windows no doubt - each time it crashes
>something bad happens on the planet - but has a Mac for his personal
>computing needs.

I think "A Christmas Carol" could be nicely adapted to Billy G's life.

But seriously, I'm not impressed. What he's given impacts his
lifestyle not a whit. If he were to truly sacrifice to help other
people, I'd be impressed.

Hadron

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chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> writes:

LOL. Almost as bitter and pathetic as Homer.

You're not impressed eh? But your opinion is valued by noone. Meanwhile
the charitable institutions which benefit and the lives the money saves
will, I am sure, be impressed and grateful.

You're a nasty, bitter little turd.

7

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Hadron wrote:

>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10870361


>
> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>

> What an evil bastard.
>

None of them have pledged any money towards Linux distros
and open source projects most of whom are charities.

There are countless education projects that seeks
to eliminate proprietary software with affordable open source.
None of those got funding either despite delivering
best education to those that can least afford it.

I wonder why we should allow rich bar stewards to hoard
their money above certain limits or to fake up their
charity.

Most asstroturfers are funded through charitable donations
in the most hideous exploitation of charitable status in the USA.
As a charity asstroturfers don't have to disclose their
income source so that they can asstroturf, take the money
and use it for commercial asstroturfing purposes.

Many of them end of buying up or setting up ISPs and then
use fraudulent accounts to send data through unregistered
IP addresses because as as ISP there is no one to
question or stop them from these kinds of criminal activities.

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7 <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10870361
>>
>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
>> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
>> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>
>> What an evil bastard.
>>
>
> None of them have pledged any money towards Linux distros
> and open source projects most of whom are charities.

Maybe not.

Their aim is to help the less fortunate. Not freetards living in their
Mom's basement......

DFS

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That he is.

He's too blinded by ignorance to realize the world runs to MS's door,
throwing money at them by the $billions.

7

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Hadron wrote:

Freetards are windummy pirates hiding in their basement because
they spent all their money on Goatse software and need
to pirate software to make up for what they haven't got.

Freetards are the laughing stock of the freedomtards.

Look - here it is - lots of freedom software:

http://www.distrowatch.com
http://www.livecdlist.com

For all that charitable work, the freedomtards deserve
a lot of charity money. None of which have been pledged by
any fake faced charity abusing private beelionairs you mention.

Homer

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Verily I say unto thee, that chrisv spake thusly:

> I think "A Christmas Carol" could be nicely adapted to Billy G's
> life.

Or Dante's Inferno.

> But seriously, I'm not impressed. What he's given impacts his
> lifestyle not a whit. If he were to truly sacrifice to help other
> people, I'd be impressed.

I'm far more impressed by poor man giving away his last penny, than a
rich many giving away a token amount of his riches.

But then, please don't confuse what Bill Gates does with philanthropy.
He has a well documented agenda, and it has far more to do with helping
corporations than people.

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Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:

> Swatting the insane Quark troll with an aircraft carrier, I see.

Subtlety is wasted on idiots like "Hadron".

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"7" <website_...@www.enemygadgets.com> schreef in bericht
news:ATC6o.56461$d34.3832@hurricane...

> Hadron wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10870361
>>
>> "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
>> to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
>> Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>>
>> What an evil bastard.
>>
>
> None

Bill Gates made sure that a $125,000,000,000,= (and rising) goes to the
poor, chapeau Bill!!
http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/2010/0804/Billionaires-pledge-125-billion-to-Bill-Gates-charity-drive

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On 8/5/2010 3:48 PM, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> Maybe we can get the freetards to contribute $38.00 to charity?
> A single dollar for each of the billionaires Gates has got onboard.
>
> I doubt it though.
> Freetards are cheap bastards.


No doubt about it whatsoever. It's proven over and over and over again
by looking at the donation lists on various open source projects.


DFS

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On 8/5/2010 12:16 AM, Homer wrote:

> AFAICT the Bill& Melinda Gates Foundation is nothing but a corporatist


> front for Big Pharma, agri-patents, eugenics, and unethical businesses'
> tax breaks and money laundering.

If the B&M Gates Foundation was aware of your squeaking and grunting,
and you were a person of repute (that will never happen of course), they
would shut your libel up pronto.

Just so I'm clear: you're a petty piece of shit and a smarmy hypocrite.

Clogwog

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"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> schreef in bericht
news:i3f521$d1a$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
Where does your DONATION to the GNU cult end up?
http://gng.z505.com/cult.htm

Chris Ahlstrom

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Homer posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:


>
>> Swatting the insane Quark troll with an aircraft carrier, I see.
>
> Subtlety is wasted on idiots like "Hadron".

So is a good sledgehammer. Not proof against that clod's
neutronium skull.

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-- Napoleon Solo, The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

chrisv

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Homer wrote:

> chrisv spake thusly:


>>
>> But seriously, I'm not impressed. What he's given impacts his
>> lifestyle not a whit. If he were to truly sacrifice to help other
>> people, I'd be impressed.
>
>I'm far more impressed by poor man giving away his last penny,

Even any "normal" person, who could easily use that donation to make
his or her own life better, instead of giving it away.

>than a rich many giving away a token amount of his riches.

Really, why should anyone be impressed? Gates sacrifices *nothing* by
giving-away some of his $billions. He could give-away all but, say,
$1 billion, and *still* be *fabulously* wealthy. A "paltry" $100
million would *still* ensure a life of luxury that most people cannot
imagine.

He's the *wealthiest guy on the planet* FFS. (And "well deserved",
too. After all, he brought us "Windows" and "Office")

I suppose there's trolling *assholes* ridiculing us right now, but,
you know, there's some pretty popular philosophical works (something
called "The Bible" comes to mind) that agree with us 100%. We are not
alone in our thinking.

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"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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chrisv is a stupid piece of shit. chrisv is a liar.


nessuno

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On Aug 4, 3:37 pm, Tattoo Vampire <sitt...@this.computer> wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
> > "Thirty-eight US billionaires have pledged at least 50% of their wealth
> > to charity through a campaign started by investor Warren Buffett and
> > Microsoft founder Bill Gates."
>
> > What an evil bastard.
>
> > I bet Gates saved, ooo, hundreds of dollars by giving these billions and
> > millions away.
>
> > It'll be interesting to see how nutcases like Roy, Homo and their shill
> > Creepy present this to the COLA minions.
>
> Hadron, it's possible for someone to be a humanitarian but still engage in
> questionable business practices.
>
> --
> Regards,
> [tv]
> Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
>
> ...Peter Steele and Armand, vampire -- separated at birth?

nessuno

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Homer

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Verily I say unto thee, that chrisv spake thusly:
> there's some pretty popular philosophical works (something called
> "The Bible" comes to mind) that agree with us 100%.

You don't need the Bible for that.
Simple common decency is enough.

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Homer wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>
>> Swatting the insane Quark troll with an aircraft carrier, I see.
>
> Subtlety is wasted on idiots like "Hadron".

He should just kill file the twit and be done with it.

--
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Tim Smith

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In article <i3cq7h$tfr$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Hadron<hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, you seem to have been away when Roy and Homer etc claimed Gates
> is only doing this philanthropy in order to "save taxes". I kid you
> not. Roy has also claimed that Gates is responsible for lung cancer etc
> etc.

Roy also claims Window caused the BP oil spill.

And don't forget the whole thing connecting Gates with Planned
Parenthood, a eugenics program to eliminate brown people, and the plan
for the west to recolonize Africa. Those are all things Roy has claimed
Gates is funding.

--
--Tim Smith

Tim Smith

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In article <DfidnVSn6KjNHMfR...@brightview.co.uk>,
"Phil Da Lick!" <phil_t...@SPAMMERSKISSMYARSE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I'm adopting a "wait and see" approach to this. Gates has already
> pledged the vast majority of his wealth to charity on his demise. To me
> it's all about how it's done. If the recipients of this largesse in the
> third world have to "give something back" in return, ie favourable
> trading terms/treaties with the US then it'll leave a sour taste. If
> however there's no strings attached then good on them, all of them.

A huge amount has already been given away, with few strings. Yes, there
have been some strings--for example money given away to develop
draught-resistant seeds for use in Africa came with the strings that if
the developers of the seeds patented them, they had to make the patents
royalty free for Africans.

--
--Tim Smith

Tim Smith

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In article <i3e4cd$l9b$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> > [quote]
> > From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more than $26
> > billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less than 8.3
> > percent of the contributions they made over that time.
> > [/quote]
> >
> > http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-founda
> > tion.aspx

>
> Swatting the insane Quark troll with an aircraft carrier, I see.

Giving $26 billion to charity, net result:

-26.0 billion given away
+2.2 billion saved on taxes
----------------------------------
-23.8 billion

Are you really making a big deal of that fact that this $26 billion
donation really only cost Bill and Melinda $23.8 billion???

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Ezekiel

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"Tim Smith" <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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I doubt they can ever understand this. Those two are so blinded by hatred
that they are incapable of rational thought. Here's [H]omer showing off his
mastery of the financial world. This is completely laughable... there's no
other way to describe how stupid this is and the really, really scary thing
is that he actually thinks he's right.


<quote from homer>
Well anyway, it works for Google (you know, that company whose share price
is double that of Apple's, and 20 times more than Microsoft's).

Share price is a measure of market confidence based on current performance.
The market is apparently twice as confident of Google as it is of Apple, and
20 times more confident than it is of Microsoft.
</quote>

The scary thing is that these people are too stupid to even know that they
are stupid. Or as they say - "Ignorance is bliss."


Hadron

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Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> writes:

Ahlstrom has become a total idiot recently. It's astonishing how he
continues to humiliate himself with such ridiculous sucking up.

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In article <i3ma5u$4vc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

"Ezekiel" <M...@Not-there.com> wrote:
> <quote from homer>
> Well anyway, it works for Google (you know, that company whose share price
> is double that of Apple's, and 20 times more than Microsoft's).
>
> Share price is a measure of market confidence based on current performance.
> The market is apparently twice as confident of Google as it is of Apple, and
> 20 times more confident than it is of Microsoft.
> </quote>
>
> The scary thing is that these people are too stupid to even know that they
> are stupid. Or as they say - "Ignorance is bliss."

Did Homer really say anything that stupid?

He's completely ignoring the fact that Apple's stock has undergone three
2:1 splits, whereas Google has not split?

Question for Homer:

Andrew buys a pizza from Ace Pizza. One slice of Andrew's
pizza has an area of 19 square inches.

George buys a pizza from Giovanni Pizza. One slice of George's
pizza has an area of 38 square inches.

Question: Which pie was bigger? The one from Giovanni or the
one from Ace.

If you've quoted Homer accurately, he thinks he can answer this question!

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In article <fsit56l8gn062o773...@4ax.com>,
Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_g...@hooya.com> wrote:
>
> His chat group has dwindeld to the point where it's just the same five
> sad sacks swapping paranoid theories 24x7.
>
> Personally, I think he has gone off the rails.
> He's obviously an intelligent person, but something has gone amok in
> the part of the brain that is used for cognitive reasoning.
>
> Hey, maybe 7 can turn one of his nano bots loose on Roy and figure out
> what's wrong!

What's interesting is that Roy's now getting a lot of his "news" from
the chat group. In particular, he's been quoting DaemonFC a lot. About
half of a typical IRC log is taken up with DaemonFCs random ranting
about all kinds of things. He's interesting because he doesn't mind
talking about the various things he's done that most people would
consider to be unethical.

For instance, there was one night when he was bragging about how he'd
used medical services at a hospital and then refused to pay the bill,
and hid his assets so that even if they sued they wouldn't be able to
find anything.

And here's how he used to get his internet access:

MinceR, I figured out how to get free internet before there were
free ISPs though

I figured out how to keep the Juno email software to not hang up

and hijack the HTML renderer in their email client to browse with

of course I had to use IE

but oh well

it was free

Later, he found a way to get free AOL:

before that I used a credit card number generator to get free AOL
accounts

because they didn't try to verify it until 30 days later

He claims to have once worked as a manager at Walmart, and that's why he
knows details of Microsoft/Walmart arrangements involving things like
XBox and Zune (details that would only be known to people high up in the
company, not store managers...), and when he makes some claim in that
area, Roy laps it up. Is it possible Roy doesn't realize that Walmart is
a giant chain, with around 3700 stores and 2.1 million employees? Could
he think it is just one big store so the store manager is a top
executive?

--
--Tim Smith

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Hadron

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Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> writes:

> In article <fsit56l8gn062o773...@4ax.com>,
> Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_g...@hooya.com> wrote:
>>
>> His chat group has dwindeld to the point where it's just the same five
>> sad sacks swapping paranoid theories 24x7.
>>
>> Personally, I think he has gone off the rails.
>> He's obviously an intelligent person, but something has gone amok in
>> the part of the brain that is used for cognitive reasoning.
>>
>> Hey, maybe 7 can turn one of his nano bots loose on Roy and figure out
>> what's wrong!
>
> What's interesting is that Roy's now getting a lot of his "news" from
> the chat group. In particular, he's been quoting DaemonFC a lot. About
> half of a typical IRC log is taken up with DaemonFCs random ranting
> about all kinds of things. He's interesting because he doesn't mind
> talking about the various things he's done that most people would
> consider to be unethical.
>
> For instance, there was one night when he was bragging about how he'd
> used medical services at a hospital and then refused to pay the bill,
> and hid his assets so that even if they sued they wouldn't be able to
> find anything.
>
> And here's how he used to get his internet access:
>
> MinceR, I figured out how to get free internet before there were
> free ISPs though

MinceR?????????????? Is that Marti?

Gregory Shearman

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On 2010-08-09, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> Andrew buys a pizza from Ace Pizza. One slice of Andrew's
> pizza has an area of 19 square inches.
>
> George buys a pizza from Giovanni Pizza. One slice of George's
> pizza has an area of 38 square inches.

I don't buy pizza, I make my own... It's easy and non-greasy... you just
need a warm place for your dough to prove...

I measure them using *real* measurements.. not the obselete "inches".

> Question: Which pie was bigger? The one from Giovanni or the
> one from Ace.

A pizza is *not* a pie... it's a bread with a topping. How the fuck
could it every be a *pie*???

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Gregory.
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Hadron

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Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> writes:

Once more an obnoxious "advocate" waffles on about something he knows
nothing about.

Try listening to "Amore" for a start Greg Bighead.

http://www.weddingvendors.com/music/lyrics/d/dean-martin/thats-amore/

,----
| When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie
| That's amore
`----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza

,----
| The term pizza pie is dialectal, and pie is used for simplicity in some
| contexts, such as among pizzeria staff.
`----

So not only is Greg wrong AGAIN, he's spectacularly wrong.

Par for the course of a COLA "advocate" of course.

Chris Ahlstrom

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Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:

Heh.

Popping back up the thread, all I notice is that Tim choose to
troll me for my retort to "Hadron", rather than to take "Hadron"
to task for his silly statement about Gate's saving "hundreds" with his
deductions for charity.

Another memory refresh for why I call Tim "Hadron Junior".

--
Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good,
you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
-- Howard Aiken

Gregory Shearman

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On 2010-08-09, Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> wrote:
> Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-09, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew buys a pizza from Ace Pizza. One slice of Andrew's
>>> pizza has an area of 19 square inches.
>>>
>>> George buys a pizza from Giovanni Pizza. One slice of George's
>>> pizza has an area of 38 square inches.
>>
>> I don't buy pizza, I make my own... It's easy and non-greasy... you just
>> need a warm place for your dough to prove...
>>
>> I measure them using *real* measurements.. not the obselete "inches".
>>
>>> Question: Which pie was bigger? The one from Giovanni or the
>>> one from Ace.
>>
>> A pizza is *not* a pie... it's a bread with a topping. How the fuck
>> could it every be a *pie*???
>
> Heh.
>
> Popping back up the thread, all I notice is that Tim choose to
> troll me for my retort to "Hadron", rather than to take "Hadron"
> to task for his silly statement about Gate's saving "hundreds" with his
> deductions for charity.
>
> Another memory refresh for why I call Tim "Hadron Junior".

Sorry, couldn't resist the troll. The thread is lame.

Hadron

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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@launchmodem.com> writes:

> Gregory Shearman posted this message in ROT13 encoding:
>
>> On 2010-08-09, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew buys a pizza from Ace Pizza. One slice of Andrew's
>>> pizza has an area of 19 square inches.
>>>
>>> George buys a pizza from Giovanni Pizza. One slice of George's
>>> pizza has an area of 38 square inches.
>>
>> I don't buy pizza, I make my own... It's easy and non-greasy... you just
>> need a warm place for your dough to prove...
>>
>> I measure them using *real* measurements.. not the obselete "inches".
>>
>>> Question: Which pie was bigger? The one from Giovanni or the
>>> one from Ace.
>>
>> A pizza is *not* a pie... it's a bread with a topping. How the fuck
>> could it every be a *pie*???
>
> Heh.
>
> Popping back up the thread, all I notice is that Tim choose to
> troll me for my retort to "Hadron", rather than to take "Hadron"
> to task for his silly statement about Gate's saving "hundreds" with his
> deductions for charity.

What the hell are you talking about? I was pointing out that the "tax
savings" that morons like you harp on about are miniscule compared to
whats being given. I mean,seriously, could you be more of a clueless
idiot? Just because your Master Roy says something you DONT have to
compound your already ridiculous personality by agreeing with him.

> Another memory refresh for why I call Tim "Hadron Junior".

You really have ZERO idea how ridiculous you sound do you?

Shearman was WRONG about the pie reference. And in you come laughing
with him making yourself look yet more ridiculous. Can you really be so
lacking in self esteem that you need to do this?

My god you're a Creepy suck up.

Hadron

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Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> writes:

Tim was not trolling. You were not trolling. You were wrong. Tim was
right.

It really is as simple as that.

As usual.

Ezekiel

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"Tim Smith" <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:reply_in_group-606...@news.supernews.com...

> In article <i3ma5u$4vc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Ezekiel" <M...@Not-there.com> wrote:
>> <quote from homer>
>> Well anyway, it works for Google (you know, that company whose share
>> price
>> is double that of Apple's, and 20 times more than Microsoft's).
>>
>> Share price is a measure of market confidence based on current
>> performance.
>> The market is apparently twice as confident of Google as it is of Apple,
>> and
>> 20 times more confident than it is of Microsoft.
>> </quote>
>>
>> The scary thing is that these people are too stupid to even know that
>> they
>> are stupid. Or as they say - "Ignorance is bliss."
>
> Did Homer really say anything that stupid?

It's not the first time and he's not the only advocate to confuse per-share
stock price with the value of a company.

> He's completely ignoring the fact that Apple's stock has undergone three
> 2:1 splits, whereas Google has not split?

Using his financial analysis each time the stock split the "market
confidence" in Apple fell by 50% because of the stock price.


> Question for Homer:
>
> Andrew buys a pizza from Ace Pizza. One slice of Andrew's
> pizza has an area of 19 square inches.
>
> George buys a pizza from Giovanni Pizza. One slice of George's
> pizza has an area of 38 square inches.
>
> Question: Which pie was bigger? The one from Giovanni or the
> one from Ace.
>
> If you've quoted Homer accurately, he thinks he can answer this question!

The pizza pie example works but the example I usually use is - "One widget
is costs ten (10) $5 bills and the other widget costs one(1) $20 bill. Which
is more expensive."


Hadron

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"Ezekiel" <not-...@the-zeke.com> writes:


You may or may not be aware that Creepy Chris is now shilling Homer and
Gregory Shearman and "laughing" at "Hadron Junior" as he calls Tim. The
mind boggles.

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Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_g...@hooya.com> writes:

> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 09:10:07 -0400, "Ezekiel" <not-...@the-zeke.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The pizza pie example works but the example I usually use is - "One widget
>>is costs ten (10) $5 bills and the other widget costs one(1) $20 bill. Which
>>is more expensive."
>

> You've just totally confused Liarmutt.

He's too dense to be confused. He's probably still gambolling around
Shearman's leg trying to sniff his arse and agree with everything he
says.

chrisv

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Timmy wrote:

>What's interesting is that Roy's

What's interesting is your obsession with Roy, Timmy.

You'd probably sniff his dirty underwear, if you had the chance.

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"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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chrisv is a piece of shit. chrisv is a fscking liar.


Hadron

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Moshe Goldfarb <moshe_g...@hooya.com> writes:

> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:24:44 -0500, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Timmy wrote:
>>
>>>What's interesting is that Roy's
>>
>>What's interesting is your obsession with Roy, Timmy.
>

> What's your obsession with everyone?


>
>>You'd probably sniff his dirty underwear, if you had the chance.
>

> I thought Roy wore diapers?

I suspect if he tried to sniff Roy's undies he'd get bitten by Liarmutt.

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[snips]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:16:01 +0100, Phil Da Lick! wrote:

> Well, I'm adopting a "wait and see" approach to this. Gates has already
> pledged the vast majority of his wealth to charity on his demise. To me
> it's all about how it's done. If the recipients of this largesse in the
> third world have to "give something back" in return, ie favourable
> trading terms/treaties with the US then it'll leave a sour taste. If
> however there's no strings attached then good on them, all of them.


"Item number three; assorted assets totalling some $15 billion. The will
specifies we are to convert them all to gift certificates for Microsoft
products and distribute those to schools and underprivileged areas."

Phil Da Lick!

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As always, the detail's in the small print :)

DFS

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This came from K Bjarnason, a known wackjob. Not sure if you're
serious, but you can assume he made it up.

Ezekiel

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"DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote in message
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Since his made up bogus quote doesn't appear anywhere on that page and he
never provided a link to it - it's safe to conclude that they lying nutjob
made it up. Once again - why let those pesky little "facts" get in the way
of a good advocacy rant.

Hadron

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"Ezekiel" <not-...@the-zeke.com> writes:


In fairness I think it was clearly a joke on Kelsey's part.

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