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Chris Ahlstrom
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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 11:29 : \____
What a messy site. And this from the guy who compares participation
to Taoism and bashes all that it beneficial. What's the reference to Microsoft
about? Did he ever work for the convicted monopolist?
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Chris Ahlstrom
> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 11:29 : \____
>
>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
> What a messy site. And this from the guy who compares participation
> to Taoism and bashes all that it beneficial. What's the reference to Microsoft
> about? Did he ever work for the convicted monopolist?
Check out his Bio link.
--
"Remember Kruschev: he tried to do too many things too fast, and he was
removed in disgrace. If Gorbachev tries to destroy the system or make too
many fundamental changes to it, I believe the system will get rid of him.
I am not a political scientist, but I understand the system very well.
I believe he will have a "heart attack" or retire or be removed. He is
up against a brick wall. If you think they will change everything and
become a free, open society, forget it!"
-- Victor Belenko, MiG-25 fighter pilot who defected in 1976
"Defense Electronics", Vol 20, No. 6, pg. 110
cc
> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
Seems like a kook, but did make Time Magazine. He worked at Microsoft
(or at least FOR Microsoft), so... what does that mean exactly?
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1984685_1984745_1985490,00.html
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> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
"A partner architect for Microsoft's controller-free Kinect device for Xbox
360.", a TOP SELLING device.
Well, lookie, lookie, I guess he has achieved more than you frothing Linux
loons will *ever* achieve!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaron_Lanier
b.t.w. a very skilled musician too!, allthough I don't like the genre.
Gary Stewart
He is a very creative musician.
Not my style, but it's very, very well played.
Of course the do nothings in COLA have to criticize him.
Like you say, what have they done?
Other than make Linux look bad.
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7/14/2011 11:02:33 AM
Gary Stewart
Please visit our hall of Linux idiots.
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Watching Linux Fail:
http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
Come laugh at Linux "advocacy" with us!
http://www.youtube.com/social/blog/techrights-org
Linux's dismal desktop market share:
http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/12/the-top-20-strongholds-for-desktop-linux/
Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
"By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop
glory."
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html
Desktop Linux on Life Support:
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/is-linux-on-the-desktop-dead--961508
When I use the term Linux I am speaking of desktop Linux unless
otherwise stated.
Homer
> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
Surely that's an oxymoron. Or maybe just a moron.
He certainly ain't no Web developer, that's fer sure.
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> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
> Surely that's an oxymoron. Or maybe just a moron.
>
* finalist for the first Edge of Computation Award in 2005
* honorary doctorate from New Jersey Institute of Technology in 2006
* IEEE Virtual Reality Career Award in 2009.
* named one of TIME's 100 most influential people in 2010
And what do you have you to offer, [H]omer AKA [M]oron?
Homer
>
> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 11:29 : \____
>
>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
> What a messy site.
Check out the vast block of " " in the source! Hasn't he ever heard
of using paragraph margins?
I guess not.
> And this from the guy who compares participation to Taoism and bashes
> all that it beneficial.
Of course! He's a Microsoft "Partner Architect", after all.
What is it with Microsoft and sinister-sounding job titles/departments?
"Partner Architect", "Perception Management", "Hired Gun" (games dept.),
"Technology Evangelist", "Guerilla Marketer", ad nauseam.
What next? "Eugenics Technician" and "Bioweapons Researcher".
> What's the reference to Microsoft about? Did he ever work for the
> convicted monopolist?
[quote]
He was Scholar at Large for Microsoft from 2006 to 2009, and Partner
Architect at Microsoft Research from 2009 forward.
[/quote]
http://www.jaronlanier.com/general.html
So there you have it. He was "at Large" with Microsoft.
Yes, he really was.
But not at the time he wrote that page, which apparently was generated
by a WYSIWYG toy called "Mozilla/4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE}
(Macintosh; U; PPC) [Netscape]", which translates to a prehistoric
version of Netscape Composer running on an equally prehistoric Mac.
A spokesman for Microsoft today confirmed that Jaron Lanier is still at
large, and should be approached with caution ... and doughnuts.
JeffM
>>http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>>
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>[...]the guy who compares participation to Taoism
>and bashes all that it beneficial.
>
By looking at him (a white guy with dreadlocks),
http://slowmuse.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/617px-jaron_lanier_1.jpg
you'd think he was a complete iconoclast.
He is, however, very much about the
outdated pay-for-ones-and-zeros closed-source binaries-only meme.
Roy Schestowitz
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____/ JeffM on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 19:11 : \____
The guy is an arrogant 'author' whose sadness about never
getting much fame led him to trolling everything which is free.
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Roy Schestowitz
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____/ Homer on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 17:59 : \____
Wow, that's something to write an article about. It helps explain
why he's had a road rage against FOSS and everything free for the past 5
or so years. It's like Andrew Orlowski with a book deal..
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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 13:10 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 11:29 : \____
>>
>>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>>
>> What a messy site. And this from the guy who compares participation
>> to Taoism and bashes all that it beneficial. What's the reference to
>> Microsoft about? Did he ever work for the convicted monopolist?
>
> Check out his Bio link.
Thanks!
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Snit
> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>>
>> ____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 11:29 : \____
>>
>>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>>
>> What a messy site.
>
> Check out the vast block of " " in the source! Hasn't he ever heard
> of using paragraph margins?
>
> I guess not.
Given how he has line breaks in his long sting of non-breaking spaces, it
makes even less sense... but then again, given that fact, your suggestion
does not make much sense either. :)
...
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____/ Homer on Thursday 14 Jul 2011 17:06 : \____
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>> http://www.jaronlanier.com/
>
> Surely that's an oxymoron. Or maybe just a moron.
> He certainly ain't no Web developer, that's fer sure.
He is certainly pwnt.
http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
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Chris Ahlstrom
> He is certainly pwnt.
> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
You'll want to make a correction. It wasn't I who wrote the "iconoclast"
quote, it was JeffM.
Your story is a little ridiculous, though, quoting silly japes from
COLA. I'd rather read relevant quotes from Jaron's writings.
Just my opinion.
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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Sunday 17 Jul 2011 13:08 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> He is certainly pwnt.
>> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
>
> You'll want to make a correction. It wasn't I who wrote the "iconoclast"
> quote, it was JeffM.
>
> Your story is a little ridiculous, though, quoting silly japes from
> COLA. I'd rather read relevant quotes from Jaron's writings.
>
> Just my opinion.
That has been done many times before. I'll correct the attribution.
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Big Steel
> Roy Schestowitz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> He is certainly pwnt.
>> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
>
> You'll want to make a correction. It wasn't I who wrote the "iconoclast"
> quote, it was JeffM.
>
> Your story is a little ridiculous, though, quoting silly japes from
> COLA. I'd rather read relevant quotes from Jaron's writings.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
Oh! Oh! Chris Ahlstrom aka Liarmutt <BITCH SLAPPED> his master. :)
Gary Stewart
In his usual half assed lame way.
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Homer
> He is certainly pwnt.
> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
TBH I'd never heard of him before, and his one and only claim to infamy
is a single book I've never read (and never will), much like that other
Microsoft booster, Keith Curtis. AFAIAC they're just toner-monkeys with
delusions of grandeur and Microsoft-indoctrinated libertarian politics.
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____/ Homer on Sunday 17 Jul 2011 18:35 : \____
> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>
>> He is certainly pwnt.
>> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
>
> TBH I'd never heard of him before, and his one and only claim to infamy
> is a single book I've never read (and never will), much like that other
> Microsoft booster, Keith Curtis. AFAIAC they're just toner-monkeys with
> delusions of grandeur and Microsoft-indoctrinated libertarian politics.
Keith Curtis is an angel compared to Jaron.
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Homer
> ____/ Homer on Sunday 17 Jul 2011 18:35 : \____
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>>
>>> He is certainly pwnt.
>>> http://techrights.org/2011/07/15/jaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft/
>>
>> TBH I'd never heard of him before, and his one and only claim to infamy
>> is a single book I've never read (and never will), much like that other
>> Microsoft booster, Keith Curtis. AFAIAC they're just toner-monkeys with
>> delusions of grandeur and Microsoft-indoctrinated libertarian politics.
>
> Keith Curtis is an angel compared to Jaron.
No, I'd say they're both complete non-entities.
[quote]
These are the sort of words you'd expect from a Luddite, not from the
man who pioneered the development of virtual reality and continues to
work at the bleeding edge of technology. But then Lanier is an oxymoron
personified. He is a hippy, but he agrees with Rupert Murdoch that
content should be paid for. He is one of the world's leading
intellectuals – according to Prospect magazine's Top 100 Public
Intellectuals Poll – yet he never managed to complete a university
degree. He bashes big software firms, yet he provides consultancy
services to them.
[/quote]
IOW he's your typical overrated, hypocritical, cold-blooded, big-headed,
Silicon Valley idiot.
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>
>> Keith Curtis is an angel compared to Jaron.
>
> No, I'd say they're both complete non-entities.
>
> [quote]
> These are the sort of words you'd expect from a Luddite, not from the
> man who pioneered the development of virtual reality and continues to
> work at the bleeding edge of technology. But then Lanier is an oxymoron
> personified. He is a hippy, but he agrees with Rupert Murdoch that
> content should be paid for. He is one of the world's leading
> intellectuals ??? according to Prospect magazine's Top 100 Public
> Intellectuals Poll ??? yet he never managed to complete a university
> degree. He bashes big software firms, yet he provides consultancy
> services to them.
> [/quote]
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/jaron-lanier-web-20-is-utterly-pathetic-1894257.html
>
> IOW he's your typical overrated, hypocritical, cold-blooded, big-headed,
> Silicon Valley idiot.
Lanier writes: "Let's suppose that back in the 1980s I had said, 'In a
quarter century, when the digital revolution has made great progress and
computer chips are millions of times faster than they are now, humanity
will finally win the prize of being able to write a new encyclopaedia and
a new version of UNIX!' It would have sounded utterly pathetic."
<chuckle?>
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____/ Homer on Tuesday 19 Jul 2011 10:21 : \____
My friend from south America has helped broaden the reach of the warning.
http://techrights.org/2011/07/17/es-jaron-lanier-es-un-troll-de-microsoft-y-fuente-de-fud-contra-todo-lo-libre-libertad-softwarejaron-lanier-paid-by-microsoft_es/
To me, finding this out about Lanier was a major thing because all these years
I didn't understand why he was attacking Freedom. Now I know.
____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Tuesday 19 Jul 2011 11:01 : \____
> Lanier writes: "Let's suppose that back in the 1980s I had said, 'In a
> quarter century, when the digital revolution has made great progress and
> computer chips are millions of times faster than they are now, humanity
> will finally win the prize of being able to write a new encyclopaedia and
> a new version of UNIX!' It would have sounded utterly pathetic."
>
> <chuckle?>
He is "not a gadget". He is a tool.
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Homer
> Homer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>> IOW he's your typical overrated, hypocritical, cold-blooded,
>> big-headed, Silicon Valley idiot.
>
> Lanier writes: "Let's suppose that back in the 1980s I had said,
> 'In a quarter century, when the digital revolution has made great
> progress and computer chips are millions of times faster than they
> are now, humanity will finally win the prize of being able to write
> a new encyclopaedia and a new version of UNIX!' It would have
> sounded utterly pathetic."
>
><chuckle?>
Points for subtle use of a question mark. :)
Frankly I think President 7 is more interesting than that idiot.
Hail!
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____/ Homer on Tuesday 19 Jul 2011 15:23 : \____
> Verily I say unto thee, that Chris Ahlstrom spake thusly:
>> Homer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/jaron-lanier-web-20-is-utterly-pathetic-1894257.html
>>>
>>> IOW he's your typical overrated, hypocritical, cold-blooded,
>>> big-headed, Silicon Valley idiot.
>>
>> Lanier writes: "Let's suppose that back in the 1980s I had said,
>> 'In a quarter century, when the digital revolution has made great
>> progress and computer chips are millions of times faster than they
>> are now, humanity will finally win the prize of being able to write
>> a new encyclopaedia and a new version of UNIX!' It would have
>> sounded utterly pathetic."
>>
>><chuckle?>
>
> Points for subtle use of a question mark. :)
>
> Frankly I think President 7 is more interesting than that idiot.
And less harmful, too.
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