TechLoons Video-audio00001 or something like that....
flatfish+++
and are failing miserably, due mostly to the shit Linux software they
are attempting to use.
For some reason 13 year old kids seem able to easily video conference
using Windows 7 but 2 "giants" in the technical industry, one with a
PHD, can't seem to manage to get video and audio synced within a minute
or so.
Pathetic Linux software in action......
Anyway, getting down to the content, I must admit, I agree with just
about everything the loons say these this episode.
They make valid points about attacks on people's families, trying to
hush free speech and so forth.
Not cool IMHO.
I am on record defending Slimeowitz's right to free speech, along with
my own of course.
One interesting point the loons make is concerning TV show subscriptions
for things like football games.
In USA it's called "Pay Per View" or similar.
Evidently,according to the loons, companies are trying to limit the
number of people you can have watching an event you paid for!!!
Ludicrous IMHO.........
Gooober is off base with his Hairy Twatter (a friend of Roy's?) theory
of selling the other DVD that comes with the package he legally bought.
The licensing probably says something that includes the entire package
as a whole.
Whatever, not important.....
As for publicizing TechLoons by writing posts like this, you guys don't
get it.
You miss the boat....
My writing stuff about your failures isn't going to matter to the choir
you are preaching to. DaemonFC, Twatter, Oiahom, etc....
Your band of pied piper followers will be there for you.
However, the average person who may stumble on your "stuff" due to my
posting is going to laugh their ass off at you guys.
Seriously, they are.
I've played some of your stuff for friends and they ask if you guys are
broadcasting from a mental ward or something.
They laugh at you.
Still, I take each episode on it's own and in this one you guys did
good.
Music was EXCELLENT BTW but the engineering on the sessions, especially
the lady, was horrid.
String noise on the guitar mostly and poor FX on her voice.
She is GOOD, VERY GOOD BTW and the song is a catchy one full of hooks.
The ending bumper music sounds like a clone of Stevie Wonder mixed with
Maroon 5 Sunday Morning.
Good though....
Overall, much better than the Jono Bacon snoozer.......
So when are you going to put the flatfish on the show and watch your
ratings soar?
Hahahahhaha!
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Goblin
> The licensing probably says something that includes the entire package
> as a whole.
> Whatever, not important.....
Thats why I asked the question. There was nothing in the box set to say
I couldn't. Even the disk itself merely said "not for rental"
It was a fair question and even your "probably" response hasn't answered
it. - Its quite simple its either a yes or no. I don't know, thats why
I asked.
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Goblin
immediately. I don't think for one minute you would ever dare come on.
For you the offer is always there. Just say the word.
In the meantime, despite your "views" the Jono Bacon interview was well
received and it was a pleasure to have Jono on the show, its always
interesting to hear what he has to say.
flatfish+++
> On 05/07/2011 08:11 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> The licensing probably says something that includes the entire package
>> as a whole.
>> Whatever, not important.....
>
> Thats why I asked the question. There was nothing in the box set to say
> I couldn't. Even the disk itself merely said "not for rental"
>
> It was a fair question and even your "probably" response hasn't answered
> it. - Its quite simple its either a yes or no. I don't know, thats why
> I asked.
Fair enough, so what did you think of my review of your little
experiment?
I feel it was an honest assessment.
flatfish+++
I probably wouldn't. but I appreciate the offer....
I do.
> In the meantime, despite your "views" the Jono Bacon interview was well
> received and it was a pleasure to have Jono on the show, its always
> interesting to hear what he has to say.
I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
to him.
I don't get it?
Maybe I miss all this, I don't know, but it seems you hate him or more
accurately what he represents.
In short I'm confused?
> http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-43-%E2%80%93-040511-%E2%80%93-%E2%80%9Cat-home-with-jono-bacon-ubuntu-community-manager/
Link left....I give you credit for allowing the enemy on the show.
I'll say one thing that might surprise you, I thought you and Roy backed
your points, as twisted as some of them are, up better than Jono backed
his points up.
Honestly.
Goblin
> On Sat, 07 May 2011 09:28:27 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>
>> On 05/07/2011 08:11 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> The licensing probably says something that includes the entire package
>>> as a whole.
>>> Whatever, not important.....
>>
>> Thats why I asked the question. There was nothing in the box set to say
>> I couldn't. Even the disk itself merely said "not for rental"
>>
>> It was a fair question and even your "probably" response hasn't answered
>> it. - Its quite simple its either a yes or no. I don't know, thats why
>> I asked.
>
> Fair enough, so what did you think of my review of your little
> experiment?
>
> I feel it was an honest assessment.
>
I will let peoples knowledge of you dictate the honesty of your "assessment"
Goblin
> I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
> You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
> to him.
> I don't get it?
>
I don't clobber Jono, infact quite the opposite, I believe the words Ive
used in the past (in respect of Jono) have been "charming", "nice
chap"...etc etc.
Please though link a quote where I say otherwise.
Goblin
And flatfish, I am not sure where you get this "enemy" business from
since I regularly deploy Ubuntu - I say so on the show, I say so on my
site and as I say before have described Jono as "charming", nice chap.
I'm not sure if you have just got confused or you are intentionally
trying to cause a rift between myself and Jono. He's a charming man and
I have alot of time for him.
To quote Arnold Rimmer....."He's a goodie"
flatfish+++
> On 05/07/2011 09:42 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
>> You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
>> to him.
>> I don't get it?
>>
>
> I don't clobber Jono, infact quite the opposite, I believe the words Ive
> used in the past (in respect of Jono) have been "charming", "nice
> chap"...etc etc.
>
> Please though link a quote where I say otherwise.
Maybe not you specifically, but probably.
The mangling of his name for one.
Pick an IRC on Roy's site.
You guys are always insulting him.
flatfish+++
Yes he seems to be a nice person.
Alright fair enough, but you can't deny Roy's site is full of Jono
disrespect.
Especially his irc.
> I'm not sure if you have just got confused or you are intentionally
> trying to cause a rift between myself and Jono. He's a charming man and
> I have alot of time for him.
Fair enough.
Based on that statement I retract my claim against you specifically, but
Roy's site is another can of worms.
Apply my original question to Roy's site.
What's the answer?
> To quote Arnold Rimmer....."He's a goodie"
Good for you!
You have at least one redeeming quality :)
IOW respect for an icon, hard worker, advocate for Linux in the field.
Goblin
> On Sat, 07 May 2011 11:24:20 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>
>> On 05/07/2011 09:42 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
>>> You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
>>> to him.
>>> I don't get it?
>>>
>>
>> I don't clobber Jono, infact quite the opposite, I believe the words Ive
>> used in the past (in respect of Jono) have been "charming", "nice
>> chap"...etc etc.
>>
>> Please though link a quote where I say otherwise.
>
> Maybe not you specifically, but probably.
> The mangling of his name for one.
> Pick an IRC on Roy's site.
> You guys are always insulting him.
>
>
>
No "us" guys are not.
I have not mangled his name and neither is there an "us"
Challenge me on my views and my words not on what you think other people
have said.
flatfish+++
> On 05/07/2011 06:49 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 May 2011 11:24:20 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/07/2011 09:42 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>> I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
>>>> You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
>>>> to him.
>>>> I don't get it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't clobber Jono, infact quite the opposite, I believe the words Ive
>>> used in the past (in respect of Jono) have been "charming", "nice
>>> chap"...etc etc.
>>>
>>> Please though link a quote where I say otherwise.
>>
>> Maybe not you specifically, but probably.
>> The mangling of his name for one.
>> Pick an IRC on Roy's site.
>> You guys are always insulting him.
>>
>>
>>
>
> No "us" guys are not.
>
> I have not mangled his name and neither is there an "us"
>
> Challenge me on my views and my words not on what you think other people
> have said.
I don't see you correcting the others when they do it.
You just play along which means you are just like the rest of the loons
over there.
Goblin
> On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:59:24 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>
>> On 05/07/2011 06:49 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 May 2011 11:24:20 +0100, Goblin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/07/2011 09:42 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>>>> I thought it was interesting but hypocritical in a way.
>>>>> You guys clobber him on the sites but yet invite him and were pleasent
>>>>> to him.
>>>>> I don't get it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't clobber Jono, infact quite the opposite, I believe the words Ive
>>>> used in the past (in respect of Jono) have been "charming", "nice
>>>> chap"...etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> Please though link a quote where I say otherwise.
>>>
>>> Maybe not you specifically, but probably.
>>> The mangling of his name for one.
>>> Pick an IRC on Roy's site.
>>> You guys are always insulting him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No "us" guys are not.
>>
>> I have not mangled his name and neither is there an "us"
>>
>> Challenge me on my views and my words not on what you think other people
>> have said.
>
> I don't see you correcting the others when they do it.
> You just play along which means you are just like the rest of the loons
> over there.
>
>
>
something that is incorrect about others, I will share my views, but I'm
not going to the take up the mantle of "COLA corrections champion" just
because you are now backing out of a claim you made against me.
Flatfish, as I say, I am more than happy to take opinions about my views
and my words, but its not reasonable to suggest that I should correct
everything of others on the net that needs correcting.
And again I am asking you to provide evidence...Where do I "play along"
with anything?
flatfish+++
> I'm sorry, but I tend to only correct when its aimed at me. If I notice
> something that is incorrect about others, I will share my views, but I'm
> not going to the take up the mantle of "COLA corrections champion" just
> because you are now backing out of a claim you made against me.
Actions speak louder than words.
> Flatfish, as I say, I am more than happy to take opinions about my views
> and my words, but its not reasonable to suggest that I should correct
> everything of others on the net that needs correcting.
It's reasonable to expect a person who supports another person, or that
person's philospy to defend them against the slander and crap that
others spew on that hate site.
But you don't do that because you take the high road and let the others
do the dirty work.
Next time Roy and the others start calling Jono names and make fun of
him why not explain to them, online, that you don't feel the same way
and that it's not professional to be acting like they do.
I can't believe he even came on the show to be honest.
> And again I am asking you to provide evidence...Where do I "play along"
> with anything?
See above.
BTW you seem to have some real problems with others having opinions
about you.
Tracking down someone who posted on your blog or something like that.
That's a little extreme don't you think?
Whether you like Jono, Ubuntu whatever is insignificant in the scheme of
things but my opinion of you is that you put on this sugary act and play
middle of the road but leave the dirty work, name calling and so forth
to the others.
Your silence about it, especially on sites that have your name
splattered all over them, confirms how you really feel.
Every comedy act needs a straight man.
Goblin
> But you don't do that because you take the high road and let the others
> do the dirty work.
>
> Next time Roy and the others start calling Jono names and make fun of
> him why not explain to them, online, that you don't feel the same way
> and that it's not professional to be acting like they do.
>
> I can't believe he even came on the show to be honest.
Firstly he came on the show because whatever it is you are implying is
in your head. Jono even interviewed Roy for the Linux Format magazine
and I am sure Jono (since he is present in the TechRights IRC channel)
is more than able to challenge any injustice he saw.
I do defend some allegations made against Roy, infact your short term
memory has failed you again because I was critisized here by some
Wintrolls for doing so. As I said then and I say now, IF I have
personal experience of the allegation and can correct it, then I will.
I WILL NOT defend every action EVERY Linux user makes, merely because
you like to group people under one banner. I do not agree with EVERY
action EVERY Linux user makes and that goes for any platform.
Just as I wouldnt expect you to defend/justify the actions of an MVP
wintroll who was caught with multiple nyms (and sebsequently publically
confessed), don't expect me to do the same.
I will mention to Jono your "concerns" next time we have him on the
show, maybe by hearing his views on the matter will silence your silliness.
Quote "BTW you seem to have some real problems with others having
opinions about you. Tracking down someone who posted on your blog or
something like that. That's a little extreme don't you think?"
No, I tracked someone down with a rather strange pro-MS view. It turns
out he was employed by Microsoft. If you are talking about the MVP (in
the above paragraph) then I didn't need too, one of his nyms was his
real name.
I don't have a problem with peoples opinion, I ask for evidence in
claims I disagree with. Good job too...when I did that with you in this
thread, you retracted your claim.
Quote "things but my opinion of you is that you put on this sugary act
and play middle of the road but leave the dirty work, name calling and
so forth to the others. "
Thats your opinion and we've seen plenty of that over the years. Your
reputation and contributions will dictate how many people take stock in
that. I am more than happy to leave it there and let others decide.
Best of British.
Goblin.
flatfish+++
> On 05/08/2011 04:43 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> But you don't do that because you take the high road and let the others
>> do the dirty work.
>>
>> Next time Roy and the others start calling Jono names and make fun of
>> him why not explain to them, online, that you don't feel the same way
>> and that it's not professional to be acting like they do.
>>
>> I can't believe he even came on the show to be honest.
>
> Firstly he came on the show because whatever it is you are implying is
> in your head. Jono even interviewed Roy for the Linux Format magazine
> and I am sure Jono (since he is present in the TechRights IRC channel)
> is more than able to challenge any injustice he saw.
Of course he is more than able to make up his own mind.
My opinion is he is making the wrong decision by associating himself
with loons like you and Roy.
The 5/6 irc for example is full of "monobacon", jonobono" and so forth
name calling.
And not a word other than the occasional "I like Jono" is uttered
against childish crap like that.
Jono even appears at one point, which is baffling to me.
He loses credibility with the legitimate Linux user because TR is
considered a joke amongst a good portion of those people.
TR is NOT GrokLaw and never will be. Don't kid yourselves.
> I do defend some allegations made against Roy, infact your short term
> memory has failed you again because I was critisized here by some
> Wintrolls for doing so. As I said then and I say now, IF I have
> personal experience of the allegation and can correct it, then I will.
I didn't say anything about defending allegations against Roy.
Of course you do.
You two are like 2 nuts in a Planter's can.
I'm talking about Jono, not Roy.
> I WILL NOT defend every action EVERY Linux user makes, merely because
> you like to group people under one banner.
I'm not talking about EVERY Linux user.
I wouldn't consider Jono Bacon a typical Linux user.
> I do not agree with EVERY
> action EVERY Linux user makes and that goes for any platform.
See above.
> Just as I wouldnt expect you to defend/justify the actions of an MVP
> wintroll who was caught with multiple nyms (and sebsequently publically
> confessed), don't expect me to do the same.
Was that Roy posting as techguy?
Or perhaps one of Twitter's many Slashdot accounts.....
To his credit, Roy has mentioned to Twitter publically that nymshifting
is not a good idea.
I guess Roy learned his lesson.
> I will mention to Jono your "concerns" next time we have him on the
> show, maybe by hearing his views on the matter will silence your silliness.
Yea I'm sure you'll have a nice discussion prior to the start of the
show.
Ask him this "why does a legitimate Linux/FOSS person of importance and
respect in the community associate himself with a hate site like
techrights that does very little to edify Linux but in fact harms
Linux".
I'm curious.
> Quote "BTW you seem to have some real problems with others having
> opinions about you. Tracking down someone who posted on your blog or
> something like that. That's a little extreme don't you think?"
>
> No, I tracked someone down with a rather strange pro-MS view. It turns
> out he was employed by Microsoft. If you are talking about the MVP (in
> the above paragraph) then I didn't need too, one of his nyms was his
> real name.
Sounds obsessive.
But that's your personality, it comes out plain and clear in your posts
and webcasts, so it's no surprise.
IOW you don't like to be wrong.
> I don't have a problem with peoples opinion, I ask for evidence in
> claims I disagree with. Good job too...when I did that with you in this
> thread, you retracted your claim.
Nobody is perfect.
Especially you.
But you go way over the top.
Like the time you admitted to speaking with a lawyer to see what could
be done about attacks you were getting.
You sound a bit high strung to me.
Goblin
> Ask him this "why does a legitimate Linux/FOSS person of importance and
> respect in the community associate himself with a hate site like
> techrights that does very little to edify Linux but in fact harms
> Linux".
Why not be an adult and ask him yourself?
Of course if you are frightened and havent done it by the time I next
speak with him, then of course I will ask him for you.
Quote "Like the time you admitted to speaking with a lawyer to see what
could be done about attacks you were getting."
Complete rubbish. I don't need to and never said that. Please by all
means quote where I did. But spend my money needlessly on a lawyer
would not be required. That is pure fantasy of yours yet again flatfish.