[News] PJ: SCO Still Matters
Roy Schestowitz
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| [PJ: Linux-watch is saying that SCO "no longer matters" so they won't cover
| the story any more. It's "old news". For example, they covered the
| news about SCO filing a claim for spoliation back when it happened. But
| if you read that report, it's all SCO's claims. IBM doesn't respond with
| its side. So, now that IBM finally gets to answer the claim, suddenly
| it's not news worth covering? The media was all over SCO's phony bogo
| claims. Steven Vaughan Nichols was one of the few who actually went to
| the trouble of finding experts to provide opposing views and some
| balance, but now that IBM finally gets to speak, after years of silence,
| he doesn't feel it's worth covering on a site called Linux-watch? Hey,
| Steven, we're just getting started. This is the fun part, the part where
| SCO finally gets to reap what it sowed. And you may not have noticed,
| but we've just begun "SCO2, Deja Vu" with the Novell-Microsoft patent
| "agreement", which I consider an outgrowth of the SCO saga. Seriously,
| the media, in my view, has a responsibility to undo some of the damage
| that was done to IBM, to Novell, to AutoZone, to DaimlerChrysler, to
| Linus' good name, to mine, and to Linux. You were all there for the
| juicy accusations that did the damage. You have an obligation, both
| legal and moral, in my view, to chronicle the truth now coming out, so
| as to undo at least some of the damage that the media in general helped
| SCO to cause. I believe that is standard procedure in any case involving
| libel, to make sure the correction is also fairly reported. But thank
| you, Steven, for saying such nice things about Groklaw.]
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Context:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2065142,00.asp
SCO No Longer Matters
BearItAll
I agree with the writer, IBMs side needs to be aired too.
The public knowledge of what is going to happen will help all of us who are
against the stupidity of the patent laws.
When the SCO chairman is eventually reduced to selling matches on street
corners, perhaps he will earn a bit of beer money selling the true story to
the press, about MS's involvement.
Maybe could be entitled 'How MS persuaded 5'9" 200lbs SCO to commit suicide
by thumping a 6'10" 350lbs bouncer, now its the bouncers turn', it might
even make a nice film, though a very short one.
Rob Hughes
> Note from News Picks:
>
<snip>
Of course PJ thinks SCO still matters. Without SCO, PJ doesn't really matter
any more, so it behooves her to keep beating that drum as long as anyone
will march to it.
Personally, I haven't thought SCO mattered for some time. Certain
individuals within SCO matter. Such as D. McB., for he can answer the
allegations that SCO was put up to this attack by MS. This is something I
personally have grave doubts about, unlike the more paranoid conspiracy
minded *cough*pj*cough* among the linux community. Though it doesn't
surprise me a bit that MS would chime in with some circumspect financial
help after the fact.
Even Linus said as far back as 2003 that the suit didn't really matter.
Q: [Impact of the lawsuit?]
None, really. The people I work with couldn't care less.-- Linus Torvalds,
2003-03-10
or
As far as I can tell, SCO doesn't have any IP claims. Their lawsuit isn't
about IP claims; it's about some contract dispute with IBM. The only IP
issues they have brought up in a verifiable way has been the RCU [Read Copy
Update, a way to access data structures that may be changing on multiple
CPUs with less locking than normal] work that IBM did, and that SCO doesn't
have any IP rights to that I can see: the patents are all IBM, and the code
was written by (and thus copyrighted by) IBM too. Well, it was Sequent at
the time, but they're all IBM now.-- Linus Torvalds, 2003-06-23
So while the rest of the world went on implementing, some seem really stuck
on this SCO thing that only a few give any cycles to.
--
"This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is
not God who kills the children. Not Fate that butchers them or Destiny
that feeds them to dogs. It's us. Only us." - Rorschach, Watchmen
spi...@freenet.co.uk
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Note from News Picks:
>>
> <snip>
> Of course PJ thinks SCO still matters. Without SCO, PJ doesn't really matter
> any more, so it behooves her to keep beating that drum as long as anyone
> will march to it.
> Personally, I haven't thought SCO mattered for some time.
Awww come on, they've provided years of comic relief.
:)
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Mark Kent
Rob Hughes <r...@robhughes.com> espoused:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> Note from News Picks:
>>
><snip>
>
> Of course PJ thinks SCO still matters. Without SCO, PJ doesn't really matter
> any more, so it behooves her to keep beating that drum as long as anyone
> will march to it.
>
It would be great if the legal attacks of Microsoft were over, however,
they're not. The new one is with Novell/Suse, that's all, otherwise
it's much the same game-plan as last time. Different company, different
execs trousering cash, same plan.
--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
QOTD:
How can I miss you if you won't go away?
Rob Hughes
> Rob Hughes <r...@robhughes.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>>> Note from News Picks:
>>>
>> <snip>
>
>> Of course PJ thinks SCO still matters. Without SCO, PJ doesn't really
>> matter any more, so it behooves her to keep beating that drum as long as
>> anyone will march to it.
>
>> Personally, I haven't thought SCO mattered for some time.
>
> Awww come on, they've provided years of comic relief.
> :)
Matters and a source of comedy gold are two entirely different things ;)
Rob Hughes
> begin oe_protect.scr
> Rob Hughes <r...@robhughes.com> espoused:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> Note from News Picks:
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>> Of course PJ thinks SCO still matters. Without SCO, PJ doesn't really
>> matter any more, so it behooves her to keep beating that drum as long as
>> anyone will march to it.
>>
>
> It would be great if the legal attacks of Microsoft were over, however,
> they're not. The new one is with Novell/Suse, that's all, otherwise
> it's much the same game-plan as last time. Different company, different
> execs trousering cash, same plan.
>
But see, I don't buy into the whole paranoid "SCO was a put up job by MS"
thing. That they came along to help after the fact isn't surprising, since
SCO's and MS' goals were the same: kill linux, or at least add a linux tax.
But I do not believe the whole thing was MS' idea, or even that Darl was
bright enough to contact MS before starting that deal.