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Message from discussion A prime example of why anonymous posting with no "outing" is a bad idea
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Stanton McCandlish  
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 More options Dec 14 1993, 7:39 am
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc, comp.org.eff.talk
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From: m...@eff.org (Stanton McCandlish)
Date: 13 Dec 1993 22:15:04 -0500
Local: Mon, Dec 13 1993 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: A prime example of why anonymous posting with no "outing" is a bad idea
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Why on earth was this being x-posted to news.admin.misc?  ANYWAY:

In article <1993Dec13.235803.1...@ns.network.com>,

Martin Schafer <scha...@raistlan.network.com> wrote:
>In article <2ebosd$...@Mercury.mcs.com> k...@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:

>>However, if that same student committed the act in China, and beamed the
>>speech out of the country to the US for broadcast to the world, and in the
>>process asked you to mask their face, then you would, in my opinion, be
>>ethically obligated to comply with a Chinese warrant for the identity of
>>the transmitter.

In a pig's eye.  I'd feel ethically obligated to tell them to go soak
their heads, but probably not in those exact words.  To respond to the
post at hand now:

>I think that you are putting an excessive value on a morallity of process
>here.

Not to be nitpicky, but it doesn't do to confuse ethics with morals, but
that's another flamewar entirely...  

>I believe that I am ethically obligated to not obey laws that I
>feel are unjust, and that I am ethically obligated to assist others (at
>least passively) when they are breaking unjust laws.  In this case I
>think justice lies with the student, and I would certainly not comply  
>with any warrant to reveal his identity.

You betcha.  It never ceases to amaze me how many people have been blinded
by propaganda to the extent that they think breaking something that's been
slapped with the label "law" is somehow an act of wrongdoing just because
some fat old rich guys [mostly; I know, I know, there are exceptions]
somewhere who call themselves "government" said it's wrong.

Glad to see you aren't one of these people.

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